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1201  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: June 23, 2023, 11:15:35 AM
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 Koin mapan saja bisa hilang dari peredaran, terlebih lagi ini hanya koin micin. BTW, mereka yang cuman ikut-ikutan, pada umumnya minim pengetahuan mengenai crypto. Mau risetpun mereka tidak tau mau mulai dari mana dan apa saja yang perlu diriset. Mereka yakin join proyeknya karena mereka lihat banyak orang-orang yang ikutan.
itulah yang menjadi hal yang harus diantisipasi oleh semua trader. Banyak koin yang saat ini eksis, komunitas rendah dan tidak ada perkembangan berarti, ini kemungkinan akan menjadi koin yang terbengkalai seperti yang mas ungkapkan. Koin-koin yang sedang dalam kondisi seperti saja masih berpotensi mati, apalagi meme yang kebanyakan scam  Cheesy

Saya ingat saat pepe pumping ada yang mengatakan "jika kamu invest 1juta pada (lupa bulannya), sekarang uang Anda Rp100jt", melihat komentar dari post tersebut saya tertawa, karena ada yang bilang "Kalau memang mudah mendapatkan uang sebanyak itu, kenapa baru sekarang", ada lagi "kalau mudah begitu, tidak ada yang bangkrut di kripto".  Grin
Saya pikir mereka mungkin adalah korban beli pucuk atau memang yang percaya kalau kripto hanya bikin rugi  Cheesy
1202  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: crypto long term dijamin sukses on: June 23, 2023, 11:08:26 AM
Doge coin memiliki komunitas yang cukup besar dan hampir dapat dikatakan mereka adalah raja coin meme untuk saat ini. Tidak ada yang dapat mematahkan tren mereka apalagi hype besar mereka selalu ada ketika elon musk meng tweet tentang doge di twitter nya. Saya pikir elon musk memiliki banyak coin doge yang membuatnya selalu memberikan kejutan untuk para holder doge lewat tweetnya di twitter. Tapi saya sendiri relatif tidak pernah menahan lama coin doge dalam wallet saya karena takut harganya turun ke dasar karena supply yang cukup besar. Untuk trading jangka pendek kayaknya sih cukup bagus coin doge karena harganya sudah turun cukup signifikan dari harga tertingginya .
Doge akan tetap dikenang sebagai inisiator meme dalam dunia kripto, jadi saya rasa doge akan tetap menjadi raja meme, walaupun nanti dari segi volume dikalahkan oleh meme lainnya, untuk sebagian orang akan tetap menganggap doge sebagai empunya. Mengenai kehadiran elon yang memberi dukungan terhadap doge, saya yakin pada saatnya nanti akan ada efek bosan dengan cuitan elon, sebelum ini terjadi memang seharusnya menjadikannya sebagai kesempatan untuk mencari profit. Harga Rp900an saat ini sudah cukup bagus, tapi saya ingatkan kembali untuk tidak terlalu menggebu dengan pump harga doge seperti periode sebelumnya. Jika doge bisa kembali ke Rp5000 pun itu sudah sangat bagus walaupun masih belum melewati ATH.

IMO/DYOR/DWYOR
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 23, 2023, 10:16:34 AM
Its seems right after Silvio Berlusconi era, AC Milan faced with financial crisis depend on recruitment with many players with free agent, unbelievable with AC Milan decision selling Sandro Tonali to Newcastle United indeed that player got more than four salary bigger than AC Milan. Not enough with primavera players promotion to main squad because most of them less experienced and Milan has to play not only in domestic league but also should focus in Champion League.

I don't sure with AC Milan keep compete for Scudetto tittle next season because selling Sandro Tonali is not good ideas, they need looking who can replace on midfielder position as well as like Tonali.

as far as I can remember, the last time AC Milan had stable finances was when AC Milan won the UCL title (2007), after that the sale of Kaka and Shevcenko was the reason for AC Milan to make their finances healthy, since this era, AC Milan is more often bought old players, loan transfer and looked for players with free transfer status. Milan had a plan to bring Tevez at that time also failed because of financial problems. Until Berlusconi sold AC Milan when he was unable to pay Milan debts. Next season, AC Milan may need to maintain their position by closing in the UCL zone, that is the best position i think. As we know, several players are leaving, this will make Pioli have to work hard in creating a strategy for next season.
1204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Next bull market comes in June on: June 22, 2023, 02:40:33 PM
Bull market resumes on 2025 that's why people who bought during this time will have a big profit when bull market is back, it's from 2 years from now but always expect a small rally from the market as well. Despite the SEC fud doings, market is still recovering and now we are back up at 30k$ from the dip last week. We will have better traction and will continue to have a good market sentiments towards this year of course!

Most analysts say that bullish is predicted to occur in 2025, the most likely ATH for that year is in the range of $ 80K - $ 100K. If the price increases 80% from the previous ATH, then it is likely that the BTC price will be at $ 120K. If BTC breaks $100K, of course those holding meme tokens in CEX I think they will get good profits in the altseason period, of course its not guarantee, DYOR/DWYOR.
1205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tron could be next doge or ada? on: June 22, 2023, 10:47:16 AM
Tron has shown some notable achievements, such as its active development, a growing number of decentralized applications (DApps) built on its platform, and partnerships with companies in the entertainment industry. It has also gained attention for its acquisition of BitTorrent, a popular peer-to-peer file-sharing protocol.

But, I'm worried about the decision made by Tron, we'll see what happened to the BTT and SUN coins, both of which have been redone, so they have more supply and lower prices. This is not the right move for Tron as the owner of the token token. Because the public is already dealing with SUN and BTT according to the initial supply and price, but they are experiencing redeployment. Although holders get coins according to the amount they hold, the large supply may be disappointing. What if later in the third phase it is Tron that undergoes redenomination?
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 22, 2023, 10:36:30 AM
AC Milan is like many Italian clubs in the last few years. They don't have too much money like clubs from Premier League or La Liga. They have to look at free players to convince those players participate in their clubs. Inter Milan, AC Milan, Roma, Juventus focus on this approach and they got some success. They aim at young players, not old players if they have to spend money for transfers. Because they want to build a squad that can play in a next 5 years or longer with those players.


That's right, few season before Berlusconi era ended, AC Milan has experienced financial problem already, several transfers of ownership have not been able to help improve AC Milan's finances to date. The failure to sell important players in the last few seasons has increasingly made AC Milan have minimal income from player sales. Currently, Milan may only be able to buy players at low prices, or try to bring in players on loan. Milan need to sell players the club doesn't really need. The best solutions for know is to start leveraging talent from the Primavera. This is an important time to improve AC Milan's finances again.
1207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: June 22, 2023, 10:29:12 AM
depends on the game, there are some strategy games like poker
one can also use strategy for bankroll management and emotional awareness when gambling
but you're right, sometimes it's better to simply chill and enjoy it.

For non-slot games, we can set a strategy to play. However, playing slots with varied jackpots and luck which has a bigger impact than non-slot games makes gamblers not have any strategy. Regardless of the strategy, because winning is determined by the symbols that appear on the reels, it will be difficult to carry out the strategy. What can be done is limited to refraining from gambling continuously. this is the one an only strategy when we are playing any slots games. No matter its a real slots gambling or mobile-app based game (hidden gamble in the game).
1208  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: June 22, 2023, 10:19:35 AM
Kalo sekarang memecoin cuman jadi skema pump dump. apalagi memcoin dengan berbagai macam konsep, dengan berbagai macam nama dan bahkan di semua jaringan punya memetoken baru. scammer memanfaatkan hype ini buat menjebak investor baru yang berharap bisa kaya dari memecoin tapi pada akhirnya kehilangan uangnya.

Ini memang sudah sering terjadi mas, hampir semua meme token akan dibuat skema demikian, mulai pertami saya kenal meme token pada masa, Safemoon, PIGtoken, Catge, Catecoin semua ini memang terjadi pump and dump. Mau bagaimana pun, kita akan selalu melihat hal yang sama pada meme-meme token lainnya yang akan datang nantinya. Meme memang dijadikan ajang keberuntung bagi trader kecil, namun bagi para whale mereke memanfaatkan untuk meningkatkan profitnya. Ya kita tahu untuk saat ini hype meme token sudah memudar, tetapi proyek baru akan selalu muncul. Saya rasa ini tidak akan bisa dibendung, karena potensi profit yang dicari oleh semua orang akan menjadikan meme sebagai alternatif.
1209  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Disaat Crypto Bersemi Kembali, Apa yang kalian lakukan? on: June 22, 2023, 03:24:17 AM
Itu sebenarnya juga uang digin gan, uang hasil bounty tempoe doeloe. Cuma karena jumlah yang buat trade menurut ane besar jadi ya panik gan, sekali merah langsung turunnya jutaan.. Nah kalo pake uang kecil, yang ada serakah, udah naik lumayan tapi karena merasa untungnya belum banyak jadi ga dijual-jual sampe merah lagi dan ya lagi lagi dijual saat market merah Grin . Mungkin emang ga bakat ane gan
Bukan tidak bakat mas, tapi persepsi kita yang kadang berlebihan ketika turun dan terjebak FOMO. Sedangkan ketika kita memegang token ga jelas, maka potensi profit yang didapat memang harus segera di amankan, karena model investasi di meme ataupun proyek baru memiliki risiko yang jauh lebih tinggi, jadi akan lebih mudah membuat holder bingung dalam mengambil keputusan. Jadi, memang perlu memainkan strategi hit & run kalau di token ga jelas.
1210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How quick do altcoins pump in bull run? on: June 21, 2023, 02:55:52 PM
Of the several bullish times in the past, bitcoin bullish times will be followed by bullish altcoins. Then, if bitcoin reaches a new ATH, the alt season will start in a few weeks from 1 - 3 months, depending on market conditions as well. However, during the bullish process before ATH, we will see how altcoins start to show pumping. if this pattern repeats, then we will see an alternating market, after BTC corrections in that period, altcoin will start to rise.
1211  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: June 21, 2023, 12:43:38 PM
Selama rilis shiba di binance sebenarnya kalau lihat chart pada periode rilis pertama kalau tidak salah mencapai 0,00004 USDT kemudia turun dia sekitar 0.000005 USDT. Kemudian mereka mencapai ATH dekitar 0,000088 USDT pada tahap ini saya melihat ada korelasi dengan harga BTC.  Saat itu kalau tidak salah harga BTC juga ada di posisi ATH kemudian berangsur menurun sampai saat ini. Memang korelasi ini tidak terbukti kebenarnnya karena memang shiba rilis dalam periode belum lama. Mungkin jika BTC besok naik melebihi ATH dan Shiba dapat kembali melebih ATH, mungkin korelasi itu menguat. Walau memang setiap BTC mengalami Bullrun pasti diikuti oleh Altcoin lain. IMO. CMIIW
Umumnya sih untuk token meme akan berkorelasi dengan harga induknya sih mas, misal ada di jaringan ETH, mereka akan ikut naik berdasarkan harga ETH, cuma pada kasus pumping tentu ini sudah diluar korelasi lagi. Untuk token yang mengikuti kenaikan BTC, biasanya yang memiliki pair BTC di CEX, dan itu beriringan tidak berjalan sendiri-sendiri. Kalau misalkan terjadi kenaikan pada koin tetentu sudah pasti itu bukan korelasi lagi, tapi pump. cmiiw
1212  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Getting Some Merit really boosted my motivation on: June 21, 2023, 10:27:34 AM
Even on high ranks we still get a joyful feeling when we received merits. It does means that we are beinf helpful or someone must have like the response or topic that being shared. Receiving merits are one of the best feeling when you are here in forum and I understand what you means since you have a goal to rank by means of merits. It will eventually come anyway, just be motivated always and do your best to contribute in this forum.


That's right, even though I'm at the top rank, I'm still happy when I get more merit. Maybe the feel will be differents with members who are trying to reach the rank of Junior member to Legendary. However, when there is additional merit i get from the posts I made, i'm still happy with that. So, basically, for some member, merit is more than just to rank up. But to show to other member who they are. Well, the character will be different for those who have merit, the most important thing is that we can continue to learn to contribute, that is the main goal in this forum.
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions? on: June 21, 2023, 10:15:58 AM
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

Well this is a must. but, apart from support from family and proffesional, he must aggree with a fact that he must be able to getting out from this addiction. I know a person here, he got support from all of his family to stop gambling, even paying off his debts because he promised to stop gambling, in fact, he still repeats the same thing, he gambles without thinking about the people who have supported him before, and owes back with more than amount before. What does that mean, even support from family and professionals will fail if there is no action to out from his addiction.
1214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: June 21, 2023, 10:04:19 AM
Today after reading your post I tried to play Big Bass Splash by Pragmatic again, and my aim was getting 3 scatters and see what it gives me. I did hit 3 scatters pretty soon, after like 5-6 spins, but in the end I was a bit disappointed by the results. I won $2.40 with my 10 free spins, and although it wasn't that bad, considering that the base bet was just $0.20, I must say I was expecting something better. (Unfortunately images from imgur aren't showing on bitcointalk and talkimg can’t be reached right now, so although I did make screenshots, I can't show them).

Yes, that's the most annoying side when getting free spins. many of us had high expectations when we managed to get free spins, unfortunately when it come, we only got not connected symbols. Even if 1 or 2 is connected, unfortunately only pays back less than $10 in total for a base bet under $0.5. to bet more, maybe you can get more than $10, but to reach freespins, you can spend more than 100x spins. However, this is part of the game, I have even earned $ 0 from free spins not from bonus buys.   Tongue
1215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 21, 2023, 09:55:00 AM
Milan is not very financially sound. They have limitations. They cannot buy players at high prices. This is why this team has not been able to fight for the Serie A title for a long time. Every season they aim to perform somewhat consistently and qualify for the Champions League. They do not have the strong squad and ability to win the title.

Samuel Chukwueze may be interested in joining the Milan team. But he is not a regular scorer. Samuel Chukwueze scored 6 goals in 37 matches last season. If Milan could add an experienced scorer to the squad, their attack would be stronger. However, adding a young player like Samuel Chukwueze to the team would be a good decision for Milan. Maybe Samuel Chukwueze can score a lot of goals if he adapts to Milan's tactics.

It is true that AC Milan is not a team that has a lot of money, therefore, Milan will find it difficult to bring in players at high prices. I think even to bring in players at a price of 50 million euros, Milan needs to get it from player sales. Regarding rumor about Samuel Chukwueze, if it is true that AC Milan has succeeded in signing him, then Milan must be able to sell several players first. There are several names that could be options, such as Saelemaekers, Origi or even Messias.
1216  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning]: New Mystic Stealer targets 40 web browsers and crypto wallets on: June 20, 2023, 04:19:46 PM
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I basically do download apps from google store but these days, no one can tell the original from the fake anymore as the duplicates are almost similar with no difference. Downloading apps and browser extension these days are not safe anymore if not from a recommended source.
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Downloading applications, email links, sms or chatting is easy to spread the virus. However, sometimes someone accidentally clicks on an ad on a website, which in fact takes us to a dangerous website and contains a malware. Generally this happens for those who don't feel the need to use antivirus and adsblockers. For those who are hunting for airdrops, faucets, this often appears as a dangerous website from these advertisements, this can also trigger a virus.
1217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 20, 2023, 04:09:51 PM
Ac milan has not yet bought even a single player from another club. This club is passive now. I don't even know whether the financial condition from the club is preventing the club to buy the new player or not but if acmilan wil not be able to compete with another club in upcoming season with the same squad as previous seasons.

I think for now AC Milan is still in the process of restructuring after the sacking of Paolo Maldini who was deemed to have failed to generate income for the club. As we know, AC Milan failed to get money from Donnaruma and Calhanoglu who moved for free. Currently Maldini's position is temporarily replaced by Geoffrey Moncada, maybe Milan still needs a few days to make a decision regarding transfers this summer. I can't even think about Milan's potential next season, maybe finishing in 5th place is a good position, because several AC Milan players have returned to their home team from loans and so far they are not giving any good news about transfer.
1218  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Menghindari Kesalahan Ketika Mengikuti Hype Yang Sedang Terjadi on: June 20, 2023, 04:02:27 PM
Kalau untuk coin meme, sepertinya tidak semua, malah banyak coin yang baru-baru langsung bikin gebrakan harga menjulang tinggi. Aku dulu juga kaget, beberapa waktu lalu coin meme kayak Doge membentuk ATH baru hampir 9000 rupiah, padahal itu coin tidak ada roadmap sama sekali, beberapa developernya malah tidak upgrade wallet beberapa tahun, terkesan ditinggalkan begitu saja. Tapi ya memang, gambling cukup layak disematkan pada coin jenis ini, namun perlu pula diperhatikan kalau sebuah hype dan tren akan mengubah pandangan itu semua, dan malah menghasilkan profit 2x lipat lebih besar dibanding bermain di coin yang ber-prospek.

Poin terakhir yang mas sebutkan adalah fakta yang tidak dapat dibantah. Mengapa hype meme token mampu mencapai binance, itu semua karena mudahnya melipatgandakan modal ketika masuk pada token dan waktu yang tepat. Maka dari itu, hingga saat ini pun meme token dengan berbagai konsep terus muncul. Meskipun hype metaverse mulai runtuh, meme token ini pun masih menjadi pilihan banyak orang karena ingin bertaruh pada keberuntungan mendapatkan meme token yang bisa seperti PEPE, SHIB dan sebagainya yang mampu menembus CEX besar selain binance. Karena saat itu terjadi, sangat besar kemungkinannya bagi early buyer akan profit besar.
1219  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: June 20, 2023, 12:18:02 PM
@chikito kalau untuk reli ke $30K, sepertinya akan terjawab setelah menembus area $27.500-$28.000 karena pada posisi ini ada kemungkinan BTC mengalami koreksi, jika pada posisi ini terjadi break-up yang valid maka memang besar kemungkinannya untuk reli ke $30K, posisi ini akan menjadi fase dimana BTC mengalami gagal break-up beberapa kali, termasuk yang terakhir pada April lalu. Jadi, misalkan terkonfirmasi di atas $30K nanti, mungkin reli ke $35K akan terjadi. Kalau dari sudut analisa saya, posisi BTC akan bergantung pada level berikut
- $27.500
- $30.000
- $32.000
jika ini sudah bisa dilewati dengan baik, maka kita akan melihat BTC lebih aman, mungkin koreksi sebelum perjalanan ke ATH tidak sampai di bawah $29.000an. karena saya pikir masih ada potensi BTC untuk koreksi ke $29.000an jika berhasil break dari $32K.

NFA/DYOR/DWYOR
1220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Big is the online gambling industry today? on: June 20, 2023, 11:59:48 AM
It's our responsibility to check whether a casino is to be trusted or not. It's good to ask people for their opinions and suggestions, but nothing beats finding the needed information by yourself. Researching is very much needed if you don't want to be fooled by paid advertisements and shilling. You have to find the right casino for you based on your collective experience, research, and from the advices people who have experienced certain situations, mostly unfavorable ones, so that you won't also stumble upon the same misfortune of not knowing better.

I personally doesn't believe any of advertisement, shilling or site review. I will playing based organic review from forum. This will be more trusted than other. As we know, forum member have different experience while gambling, this is why it will be more organic review and trusted. Meanwhile, advertisement, shilling and site review can be paid, so they will ask the provider to give good reviews even they are trying to scam people. We can find online gambling easily now, if we want to know how good they are, we can try to find a forum and it will be the right place to know their quality. imo
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