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1081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 25, 2023, 05:48:38 PM
There is shocking news for me, where PSG received an offer of £ 259m for its superstar, Mbappe. we know, until now Mbappe is still not willing to sign his contract extension. As if they were afraid that the megastar would not provide fresh funds for the club, it was rumored that PSG would release Mbappe to Al-Hilal.
1082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 25, 2023, 04:00:08 PM
For any championship club there going to be new problems every other season. The only way that the club is going to be one of the best is by fixing those problems.


Of course, Napoli must prepare well for this season, however, being a defending champions, this will become a burden for players who have just joined. Coaches must be able to increase the confidence of new players so they can play well as a team. BTW, Napoli had a friendly match against SPAL with a final score of 1 - 1, maybe this cannot reflect Napoli's strength this season, but this match should be enough to serve as a "warning" for Spalleti. The real challenge will come!
1083  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 25, 2023, 03:23:21 PM
Santuy mas jangan terlalu terbebani, biasanya ada pengikut2 tertentu yang memantengin harga lalu dicompare dengan saran masulum, kayak dejavu gitu, kadang cocok dan kadang juga bertentangan.
Siap mas, cuma belum terbiasa aja kalau sampai ada yang ngikutin dan pas analisa salah, saya yang disalahin  Grin


Akhirnya harga Bitcoin bisa menyentuh di area $28,800 yang merupakan harga terendah dalam 24 jam terakhir, ini posisi yang sedikit menyulitkan bagi kita sebagai investor baik di Bitcoin atau altcoin.
mungkin ini bisa menjadi support koreksi untuk melanjutkan tren ke 30K lagi, untuk konfirmasi breakout kayanya ada di 30.600, jika ini valid mungkin bisa ke 32K lagi. tapi melihat posisi harga saat ini seperti masih sideway di range 29-29.3K, agak riskan melanjutkan penurunan.
1084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: July 25, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
If you think of it, buying free spins is just like making higher bets. Once I won $200 with a $0.20 regular spin on a slot, and if I was betting with $20 at that moment, my profit would be $20k, right? Now, if I'd buy a bonus round for $20 back then and won $20k I would be confident that only buying free spins can provide you with such a win. This is what happens with some gamblers, and they spread the word and other people repeat after them.

I'm a bit confused by your point. Buying a buy bonus does not increase the bet, it only speeds up entering bonus mode, but must pay 100x the base bet. So, we pay that $20 is actually same as $0.2 per spin with 100 spins (without any win). so the matter of winning doesn't change, if from base bet $0.2 the rules if we get maxwin is $200, by buying bonus mode it will still be $200 not change to $20K.

Am I misunderstood what you mean?
1085  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: July 24, 2023, 05:36:32 PM
Dan nyatanya benar bitcoin terjun kembali dari level $29.8 -$29.9 yang lebih rendah malam ini ke level harga $29k, dan kita benar-benar di uji apakah level harga $29k akan di bobol kembali, dan bitcoin melakukan konsolidasi di level harga $28k.
Kita menyaksikan dengan betul bahwa sebelumnya bitcoin kesulutian untuk menembus level harga $32k, dan kemarin bitcoin menguji support harga di 29.8k berkali-kali dan akhirnya bobol juga.
candle hari ini masih belum closed untuk yang mengikuti waktu zona US, kalau dari indikator MACD kayanya sih ada potensi BTC ke area 28.5K, semoga saja dari posisi ini BTC bisa reversal. Mungkin jika rapat yang mas sebutkan ini menambah keyakinan terhadap BTC, mungkin bisa menghijau. Namun, sepertinya masih ada keraguan terhadap kripto terkait Binance yang kabarnya memecat 1.000 karyawan. Karena pada saat berita ini diluncurkan BTC juga gagal re-test, mungkin market masih wait & see dengan kondisi pasar saat ini yang masih minim good news.
1086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 24, 2023, 05:20:13 PM
If Napoli is actually interested in defending the title successfully, they should actually think about bringing in players who will make the team strong. Defenders are obviously going to be very important for the team. Losing a really good player, like Min Jae Kim is obviously going to be big for a club that is defending the title.

There is no club that does not want to defend the championship title obtained last season. but, each team has different problems each season. Napoli, who have to change coaches and the arrival of new players, will make this season even more difficult to defend the title. Adapting this new strategy is sometimes more difficult for players to implement, this must be solved by the coach from the beginning.
1087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 24, 2023, 02:39:11 PM
Your experience is kinda similar to mine. I already shared mine, and it's exactly the same. LOL. Probably I should not be surprised because I want to believe that most gamblers started with free money or faucets. There were not many websites that offered faucets and games at the same time. Freebitco.in was one of the popular websites that offered free faucets and games simultaneously. This was my first gambling casino, I guess.

I remember I was looking for the faucet to gather some satoshi and withdraw them to the faucet hub back then. I guess I had a faucet website too, but I didn't know how to attract users. I had a PTC website, but all of them were for fun purposes.
I think a lot of user decided to playing dice from the faucet on Freebitco.in, and not just us, LOL.

Faucethub is also where I collect satoshi and doge. What I regret is, I used to make a website for a doge faucet, and there is still a balance of around 1000 doge, I haven't withdrawn and it turns out that faucethub has closed. On faucethub, I also often gamble faucet I get.
1088  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: July 24, 2023, 02:15:46 PM
Semoga saat upgrade MATIC ke POL ini sudah selesai bisa ada surprise dan market action positif yg lebih menarik lagi Cheesy
Kalau misalkan ini mendapatkan respon positif, artinya ada kemungkinan Matic bisa dikatakan under value untuk saat ini, karena adanya tambahan L2 harusnya kinerja jaringan matic bisa semakin membaik untuk mendukung skalabilitas dAPPs dan mungkin DeFi di jaringan Matic. CIIW

Entah akan ada airdrop beneran atau cuma trik teasing user biar pada pakai Polygon zkEVM aja Cheesy Anyway kalau ada ETH nganggur mungkin bisa coba-coba bridge dan pakai beberapa dApps di Polygon zkEVM.
Sayang sekali ga ada ETH nganggur buat nyobain, Andai itu ada di testnet mungkin bisa nih buat ikutan.  Cheesy



Ini juga lagi hangat keknya, Venom, proyek asal dubai yang mendapatkan dana USD1 Milyar dari Venom Ventures Fund

ekosistemnya: https://twitter.com/VenomNews_/status/1680882386584891393


1089  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Saya ingin tahu cara trading harian di altcoin supaya terus mendapatkan untung on: July 24, 2023, 12:42:34 PM
Kemarin-kemarin pernah dengar tentang perdagangan metode arbitrum tapi belum mempelajarinya lebih lanjut apakah memang bagus atau tidaknya. Mungkin ada yang pernah?

Maaf mas, bukan Arbitrum (Arbitrum=layer 2 Ethereum), mungkin yang mas maksud Arbitrase. Arbitrase ini adalah metode trading untuk mendapatkan keuntungan dari perbedaan harga antar exchange. Cuma, ini tidak akan efektif jika pada kripto yang membutuhkan konfirmasi lebih dari 2 menit dan ongkos WD yang mahal.

Saya pernah melakukannya, tapi dari AMM ke CEX, karena spreadnya cukup lumayan, dengan 1x trading saya bisa profit $5 bersih, itu bisa saya lakukan sebanyak 5x, sampai perbedaannya tidak lagi menguntungkan untuk diteruskan. Jadi saya beli di AMM yang saat itu dump, sedangkan di CEX justru pump  Cheesy
1090  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Syok] Ternyata Gambar Candlestick bisa dipesan!? on: July 24, 2023, 12:34:07 PM
Oh bukan gan, candle terbentuk via aktivitas trading, candlenya ya sesuai transaksi yang terjadi, namun yang jadi masalah adalah transaksinya fiktif.
Pemesanan gambar candlestick yang di video itu ya via wash trading bandar/broker.

Nah, kalau misalkan transaksi fiktif ini sering saya temukan mas, tapi fiktifnya ini beda, ini saya temukan di BitMart dan Probit, jadi ceritanya posisi last buy & sell misalnya
SELL: 3
BUY: 3
Karena saya ingin koin saya cepat laku, jadi saya pasang sell 2.9 agar ada bisa segera keangkut. Ternyata, ada transaksi sell yang keangkut di harga 2.8, padahal tidak ada sell order baru selain punya saya di 2.9 itu.

Jika yang mas maksudkan wash trading ini dari orang/kelompok yang memiliki uang banyak untuk meningkatkan volume jual & beli, ini menurut saya istilahnya bukan lagi ngegambar candle, tapi menurut saya itu sama dengan manipulasi harga & volume. seperti yang saya singgung sebelumnya, karena candle tercipta pasca terjadi transaksi. Ya mungkin sudut pandang saya selama ini terlalu sempit, jadi seperti menolak ungkapan neggambar candle.

Terkait grafik yang tercipta, pada aktivitas seperti ini, memang sulit untuk dilihat validitasnya, bahkan BTC pun juga bisa tidak sesuai. karena pada TA itu sifatnya prediktif.
1091  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Syok] Ternyata Gambar Candlestick bisa dipesan!? on: July 22, 2023, 12:38:34 PM
Inject gimana gan? Kan tinggal self-trading pakai beberapa akun aja udah bisa nggambar candle, kalo di kripto sebutan populernya wash trading, dan dilakukan si market sendiri. Ane kira di IDX bukan marketnya pelakunya tapi "bandar."

maksud saya, inject disini adalah membuat program yang mengubah candle baik nambahin value yang digambarkan. Nah kalau misalkan itu dilakukan oleh pemilik exchange, tentu itu bisa masuk akal, karena mereka bisa mengubah programnya. Sedangkan untuk sekarang kita semua menggunakan chart tradingview, dengan karakter candle semua pair dengan perbedaan tidak banyak, jika ada perbedaan candle pada 1 exchange tertentu misal antara BTC/USD di Binance & Okex misalnya, kalau itu banyak mungkin salah satu melakukan manipulasi. Mengingat ada perbedaan harga yang mencolok. Self-trading yang mas sebutkan atau ada bandar ini mungkin broker, itu artinya memang manipulasi harga. karena saya pikir untuk candle, ini akan digambar sesuai trade yang terjadi, kalaupun itu dari hasil trading maka walaupun itu hasil manipulasi (pump terorganisir), itu bukan hasil ngerubah candle tapi ngerubah aktivitas trading.

Tapi asumsi di penerawangan candlestick itu harga market adalah harga yang real, alias harga merefleksikan nilai sesungguhnya si aset, nah kalau ini terjadi manipulasi harga maka asumsi tersebut tidak terpenuhi lalu gugurlah metode penerawangan candlestick, bukan begitu?!

Lalu berbicara tren, kalau trennya ternyata dibuat-buat maka ga valid?!
Contoh paling sering terjadi pada kasus pump, gitu kan ya. tetap saja itu adalah tergambar dari nilai aset secara real sih karena terjadi aktivitas trading dulu, baru candle terbentuk. Akan beda kalau tidak ada aktivitas trading candle terbentuk tiba-tiba tinggi ijo gitu. Valid atau tidak, itu seperti semu mas, dalam melihat candle basicnya adalah prediksi, jika tren itu tidak valid, sama halnya dengan analisa yang juga tidak ada yang valid. Karena memang yang menentukan adalah aktivitas market baik itu real dari trader maupun manipulasi aktivitas jual/beli dari whale broker yang memiliki kekuatan untuk memanipulasi harga, namun tetap harga sekarang adalah harga real.

Jadi, dalam hal ini menurut saya bukan manipulasi candle, tapi manipulasi harga itu sendiri, karena candle terbentuk setelah harga. Pandangan saya begitu sih selama ini mas, silakan dikoreksi kalau salah  Wink
1092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How can I understand meme coin good or bad position? on: July 21, 2023, 02:56:58 PM
OP, there really is no proven way to know the right meme coins to buy. MEXC, CoinTiger, and some other exchanges are always used to pumping most of those meme coins and other Altcoins with fake trading volume. Sometimes, if you buy those Altcoins there, it might just turn your money into nothing before the next day. For me, I think that buying those meme coins is strictly based on luck; perhaps if you buy like six of them, you might get lucky with one or two.

buying memes that are already listed on CEX, mostly after a pump. So when there is a pump on CEX, this becomes fake volume or is controlled by whales on the exchange. When I actively buy meme tokens, I avoid tokens that are already listed on cex, because I'm waiting for correction  moment,when it come, I will start accumulating. not much $1-10. For meme tokens that don't have any live service, I'll cut when it's minus 30%. for purchases, in case it was less than $3 I let whether it will be a jackpot or dead.
1093  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: July 21, 2023, 01:32:15 PM
Matic ada kabar kalau mereka akan melakukan perubahan ticker dari Matic ke $POL, mirip cocosbcx yang ganti ke combo (koreksi jika saya salah), sepertinya mereka ingin melakukan re-branding untuk menguatkan posisi Polygon. sebagai salah satu jaringan yang menjadi tempat stable, NFT market, gaming saya rasa dengan harga di bawah $1 rasanya masih ada tempat untuk Polygon untuk menembus lebih dari $2. Tapi ini hanya asumsi saja, alasannya karena penggunaan matic di berbagai proyek akan menguatkan ekosistem mereka. ini hanya asumsi pribadi bukan kepastian. NFA/DYOR/DWYOR
1094  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Perhatikan Ini Sebelum Invest Di Meme Token on: July 21, 2023, 01:18:30 PM
Meme token di jaringan ETH mulai kembali meningkat, dalam 2 minggu terakhir saya lihat cukup banyak token Meme yang menjadi hot pair. Jika masih ada yang hunting meme, mungkin bisa memantau AMM di ETH, karena sejauh ini hanya di ETH yang aktif. BSC sudah sangat turun hype meme, bahkan yang muncul tidak mengalami kenaikan signifikan seperti yang ada pada jaringan ETH. Tapi, ingat ini adalah metode trading untuk short-terms, karena risiko lossnya jauh lebih besar. Apalagi fee untuk sekali trade di ETH juga cukup mahal, belum tax (jika ada), jadi harus cermat untuk entry.

Misalnya ini, ini sudah sebulan usianya, dan baru pump 2.000% hari ini


https://etherscan.io/token/0x4cd206fc669671b403e8894d5452221998a413a3
Kalau dari holders sih masih sedikit, tapi di social media tidak begitu ramai, takutnya ini pump dilakukan whale saja, selain itu tidak seperti pump pada PEPE & SHIBA yang mengalami kenaikan holders dengan cepat saat terjadi pump
1095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 21, 2023, 10:46:48 AM
Cruises will be replacing bitmex which is not extending its contract with acmilan. The money raised from a partnership with cruises was not so big but that's really helpful for the club in adding more funds.


This sponsorship deal is estimated to be worth 5 million euros per year (plusmin), it can't help much to buy new players though  Cheesy, but this is still become positive, because despite losing BitMex, Milan got a replacement. If I'm not mistaken, the sponsorship with Emirates & Puma is also almost over. Hopefully they can reach a renewal with higher sponsorship value.
1096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: July 21, 2023, 10:37:22 AM
But if your account is clean, the casino will process your withdrawal quickly. But the casino's request to do KYC must be fulfilled first, especially if you win a large amount.

that's right, it seems that for wins under $10K gambler will not be asked to do KYC as long as the account used is not indicated to be committing any kind of fraud. I once withdrew $2K from a gambling website, no need for KYC for any identification, except email and cellphone number. of course $2K is small in other countries, but in Indonesia it is a lot of money. Even the sites accessible from Indonesia, they are not asking any KYC for that.
1097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 21, 2023, 09:41:42 AM
Of course it will be interesting, but it will not be as prestigious as the Europa League. ideally, the Saudi professional league will be higher than the leagues in Asia with the new arrivals of top European players. the point is, what is Saudi doing in the framework of investment projects and the privatization of sports clubs. from a football point of view, the kingdom wants to promote the development of football in the country. and from the PIF, the point is that the four clubs' acquisitions will open up various commercial opportunities, including investments, partnerships and sponsorships in various sports. to achieve what they planned in the project, they are aware that this project will take time.

but at least, the Saudi Pro League is now known to the world. although not yet on par with the European leagues. IMO, I think what they're doing is just the beginning. maybe, they will do something bigger than that. So, in any case the Saudi League will not be as attractive as the European leagues. in the next 5-10 seasons, this League will further develop. or,..the project they planned failed. to be honest, we don't know for sure. however, it is clear that Saudi trends are currently in full swing.

If for development of football that is currently being carried out by bringing in star players with reasons for investment, I agree with you. Because from the side of the government they provides support to increase tourism to their country to see star players playing there and tours/traveller. I think this support main goal is for the non-sport sector.

I know this does have an impact on Arab football because it is known worldwide, but with a high transfer fee, even though they have a lot of money, I'm afraid it will be a boomerang for the club in the future. Chelsea, being an example when their owners left, they are in serious financial problem at the moment, after having bought a lot of expensive players in the Abramovich era.
1098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is the upcoming LTC halving a market mirage? on: July 20, 2023, 04:32:06 PM
Well, that LTC is not bitcoin, even though LTC will be halving in the near future, but this hype event will not be like what happened to BTC. However, for a trader, maybe they will take advantage of this moment to be used as a fundamental, because there will definitely be an assumption that the LTC halving will affect prices in markets like BTC. I doubt about that will happens.
1099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 20, 2023, 03:40:39 PM
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will it be a guarantee that the Saudi league will be as interesting as the European ones?
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No its not, Arab League will not be the same as the leagues in Europe, even the Asian champions league will not be like the European champions league. I think the Arab League will only be like MLS which is known also buying players from the European leagues. However, MLS still can't seem special even got several star players.
1100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 20, 2023, 03:24:56 PM
The first time I gambled was playing dice when I was looking for faucets (2016), I never gambled before, but when I got faucets, I collected them and I played dices, I still remember, when I got faucets around 0.000004**/claim, there was no big win from the dices I did, my faucets always ran out. LOL. But I realized, it's just for fun, because I'm too lazy to collect the faucet till meet minimum requirements to be drawn into the exchange. the real fun at the time.
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