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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 7970 will only mine at 550khash at stock clocks - Lower when OC'ed - HELP on: April 11, 2013, 02:27:20 AM
On any 7970 1035/1500 is achievable and at exactly those clocks I have 4 different models, 12 cards total doing 720khs.

Try 24000 conc, gputhread 1 intensity 18 (more if it can take it)
Or 12000 conc, 2 GPU thread, intensity 13
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [TRC|PPC|FRC] vPool.us - 1% fee, PPLNS - scam alert- on: April 11, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
vpoolserver,

Just a few notes - I think most of your bugs are coming from mmcFE. Connecting to your servers with miners works, but it sucks for us in the USA because of latency and we lag out - that's not something  that can be helped though, and it appears you have ppcoind and pushpool set up correctly.

mmcFE took me a few days of playing around with to get it right and I am still not very happy with it. The biggest bug I dealt with (which you may want to check) is how you are computing difficulty. When you use the getdifficulty api with  ppcoind, it does not differentiate between stake block difficulty, and proof of work difficulty. So, difficulty can be 300,000 from proof of work, then drop down to 9,000 for a few proof of stake blocks, then back up to 300,000. When you use getdifficulty API, you get an array instead of a double (like you would with other coins) - this array contains both the latest proof-of-work and proof-of-stake values from what I remember. You have to explicitely call the proof-of-stake element from the getdifficulty array.

Anyway we will probably both run into future bugs because mmcFE was not built for ppcoin, and ppcoin has many different things than BTC. After working on this myself, I understand that your mining pool was probably misconfigured\had bugs rather than you were trying to explicitely scam people. Let me know if you want to work on ironing bugs out together, we have essentially the same code now. Also, I switched my domain from vPool.me to VuxilsPool.com, so we can avoid confusion on that part.

Best,
Vuxil
I've pretty much said from the start its probably bugs, but the way he disregarded and treated those claims, scam alert doesn't seem in appropriate to me.
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC on MTGOX on: April 10, 2013, 05:44:03 PM
Sure, mtgox will support LTC and NMC, add a few thousand users, and what will happen to the server? They can barely support BTC without being down or lagging severely.
Why does everyone assume that is an non fixable and permanent issue? Those issue happened a few times, all after very very sharp increase of bitcoin activity.

Let's FUD big time about shit that's easy to fix and of pretty low relevance (since they always get fixed)

Tell that to the 18 minute trade lag on mtgox as of right now.
My statement still stands as its exactly what I'm saying. A problem now does not warrant a problem later and is currently being fixed.

Ok, so you think mtgox will add on a whole sets of other problem by introducing LTC, while the current problem is still festering?
I have never said anything about LTC being added before lag issues are resolved. My only stand on LTC is that the CEO has said too much confirming the support to not support it. I have never dipped my foot saying when.

But put words in my mouth all you want, its easy for me to dismiss what I didn't say.
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC on MTGOX on: April 10, 2013, 04:09:29 PM
Sure, mtgox will support LTC and NMC, add a few thousand users, and what will happen to the server? They can barely support BTC without being down or lagging severely.
Why does everyone assume that is an non fixable and permanent issue? Those issue happened a few times, all after very very sharp increase of bitcoin activity.

Let's FUD big time about shit that's easy to fix and of pretty low relevance (since they always get fixed)

Tell that to the 18 minute trade lag on mtgox as of right now.
My statement still stands as its exactly what I'm saying. A problem now does not warrant a problem later and is currently being fixed.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BTC at $220, altcoins crashing. Where are your AltGods now? on: April 10, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
@human: Which alternative cryptocurrency provides a solution to any of the concerns you've stated? I'm not against an alternative to Bitcoin, but an alternative needs to be a different technology to increase the stability and resilience of the ecosystem. Multiple Bitcoin's don't provide any benefit. If you want to increase maximum possible transaction count, you can increase the block size. It's not like any of the alternative coins allow a more compact form of transaction.

remember: the amount of bitcoins is limited to 21.000.000. the amount of cryptocurrencies is unlimited and this is a good thing.

Why?

I guess the best analogy to that question is the EURO. Having 1 currency ties everything together and creates much instability, and fear because of the weak ties. Sure you can come with arguments of why comparing fiat to crypto, but that is not the point, the point is diversity makes your fate your own, not everyone else.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'll give a terracoin for any miner hopping on TRC network for next two blocks on: April 10, 2013, 03:55:39 PM
I hopped on coinotron with my 404Mh/s, and will add 700Mh/s to the network later today.

btw coinotron is giving me trouble, any suggestion for a TRC pool?
coinotron is fine, just had to re-login to see my account page.

my address is:
1KZ7rUz5VL3q8uZTWzK1hYAboWZbkTdvJ9


holy Molly, flash back to 98.
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 10, 2013, 03:41:24 PM
If you guys have so much shit to say about a company that honestly didn't really do anything wrong

Didn't really do anything wrong? How about profiting off Bitcoin while throwing one of it's core values down the toilet? They want your name, address, phone number, a recent bill, and a stool sample or they'll lock your funds up tight with no recourse.
That's is AML verification which is required by law...........

If it was, BTC-E would be forced to do it too. Yet they don't.
Its not because someone doesn't comply to law that the law doesn't exist.

They have 2 options. Comply in the coming months (regulation was released the 18th of march 2013 by fincen). Or deny service to US citizens.

"If selling drugs was illegal, no one would be selling them"

But hey, think whatever you want.

I figured they would have to ALREADY deny service to US citizens. Oh, well, yet another reason to expatriate.
When a new regulation is released, you have a grand father father grace period. They are not gonna pursue legal avenues if a business doesn't comply the next day. I do not know if btc-e plans to comply or not, but it certainly does not mean it is legal.

Also that grace period is usually very objective and can be limited to "within a reasonable amount of time" unless it explicitly states "must comply by xxxx"
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC on MTGOX on: April 10, 2013, 03:37:35 PM
Sure, mtgox will support LTC and NMC, add a few thousand users, and what will happen to the server? They can barely support BTC without being down or lagging severely.
Why does everyone assume that is an non fixable and permanent issue? Those issue happened a few times, all after very very sharp increase of bitcoin activity.

Let's FUD big time about shit that's easy to fix and of pretty low relevance (since they always get fixed)
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC on MTGOX on: April 10, 2013, 02:45:26 PM
That isn't the official announcement. But soon is indeed further confirmation. And I said before, when they support is irrelevant, its IF they do. And right now, no reason to believe they won't.
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 10, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
If you guys have so much shit to say about a company that honestly didn't really do anything wrong

Didn't really do anything wrong? How about profiting off Bitcoin while throwing one of it's core values down the toilet? They want your name, address, phone number, a recent bill, and a stool sample or they'll lock your funds up tight with no recourse.
That's is AML verification which is required by law...........

If it was, BTC-E would be forced to do it too. Yet they don't.
Its not because someone doesn't comply to law that the law doesn't exist.

They have 2 options. Comply in the coming months (regulation was released the 18th of march 2013 by fincen). Or deny service to US citizens.

"If selling drugs was illegal, no one would be selling them"

But hey, think whatever you want.
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [TRC|PPC|FRC] vPool.us - 1% fee, PPLNS - scam alert- on: April 10, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
Official statement.
You are can to think our pools scam. We will not claim otherwise. And also discuss about other fake vpool. Pools will work all paid time. It is more than two months. We recognize that there is little time taking the test PPC pool before going into production. Minor bugs found in the code and corrected now. We do not know the main error. We hope to hear answer the developer or other competent persons. Why we have a nonlinear block confirmation.
Our plans. Information about estimated  payout, we plan to remove. This is misleading. Perhaps instead we make the page with pool's payout, if they wish our miners.
On the block will be automatically paid 41.851. Now all the issues of payment with your justification to submit by email. We will consider on an individual basis.
if through all those accusations you were aware of bugs and stayed silent, that's what confirmed those accusations. You could have avoided scammer status by talking.

Still a scam to me for that reason.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 10, 2013, 02:10:10 AM
I will take bets that MtGox will NOT be trading LTC in the next two weeks.

I got 20 LTC to back up my bet. Who wants to take it?
When they add it is pretty irrelevant. Its if they add it or not.

Its not the day it will hit mtgox that the big spike will occur, but the day its on their news feed.
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 10, 2013, 01:49:05 AM
Those "meaningless" tweet you are talking about would be enough to put them under trouble for market manipulation. Regulated or not, that is not an avenue that seems likely.

Cryptocurrencies aren't regulated. There aren't any laws forbidding market manipulation in non-regulated instruments.
Beside, announcing support for a commodity / instrument is hardly market manipulation.
Did you read, or just write?

No its not regulated. But as the leader, they gain a lot of trust and protect themselves, and consequently you by following common regulations even if they don't apply (yet).

And announcing wouldn't be manipulation. Leading to believe and then retracting would be.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 10, 2013, 01:46:13 AM
If you guys have so much shit to say about a company that honestly didn't really do anything wrong

Didn't really do anything wrong? How about profiting off Bitcoin while throwing one of it's core values down the toilet? They want your name, address, phone number, a recent bill, and a stool sample or they'll lock your funds up tight with no recourse.
That's is AML verification which is required by law...........
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 09, 2013, 11:59:24 PM
It's also going to expose MtGox to even *more* DDoS. Because, you know, why go after LTC pools when you can stick it to the man.

That's a risk that I'm sure the folks at MtGox have taken into consideration, and apparently they've deemed the juice worthy of the squeeze.

I can only imagine how many people will end up in the hospital due to massive hand to face trauma when that happens...
When they say things like "we are going to reinforce DDOS and working closely with one of the best DDOS protection company".... Well its probably not only PR. At one point, when the protection is big enough, it profoundly discourages even attempts...

If you guys have so much shit to say about a company that honestly didn't really do anything wrong and has been adjusting to its environment pretty well and also held itself accountable the one time it got hacked. I'm not a fanboi, I don't even have an account there. I just hear people bitch bitch and bitch for not many reasons honestly.

Uhhh, Coinotron says it has protection too...but that doesn't stop attackers. Gox has been down plenty enough too, so whatever claims of protection are probably not working/going to work. Especially once all the DDoSers see that they can earn more attacking MtGox for LTC than the LTC Pools.
DDOS protection is quantitative, not yes/no. You can adapt to it, and also can have a dynamic package once you are a that big client. I am quite positive this was a peak and adjustments aren't hard to make. I just see it getting better, not worse.

But hey, you aren't the first pessimist in this world.

Skepticism is quite healthy, especially in this market.
I agree better safe than sorry, but in what were talking about right now, I don't necessarily the benefit...
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Importance of GPU RAM for Litecoin Mining on: April 09, 2013, 11:57:50 PM
RAM isnt used to full capacity on 7xxx models. What is important however is bus speed. Which is the reason (most likely) why the Tahiti LE doesn't compete with Tahiti shader for shader.
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 09, 2013, 11:55:52 PM
It's also going to expose MtGox to even *more* DDoS. Because, you know, why go after LTC pools when you can stick it to the man.

That's a risk that I'm sure the folks at MtGox have taken into consideration, and apparently they've deemed the juice worthy of the squeeze.

I can only imagine how many people will end up in the hospital due to massive hand to face trauma when that happens...
When they say things like "we are going to reinforce DDOS and working closely with one of the best DDOS protection company".... Well its probably not only PR. At one point, when the protection is big enough, it profoundly discourages even attempts...

If you guys have so much shit to say about a company that honestly didn't really do anything wrong and has been adjusting to its environment pretty well and also held itself accountable the one time it got hacked. I'm not a fanboi, I don't even have an account there. I just hear people bitch bitch and bitch for not many reasons honestly.

Uhhh, Coinotron says it has protection too...but that doesn't stop attackers. Gox has been down plenty enough too, so whatever claims of protection are probably not working/going to work. Especially once all the DDoSers see that they can earn more attacking MtGox for LTC than the LTC Pools.
DDOS protection is quantitative, not yes/no. You can adapt to it, and also can have a dynamic package once you are a that big client. I am quite positive this was a peak and adjustments aren't hard to make. I just see it getting better, not worse.

But hey, you aren't the first pessimist in this world.
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 09, 2013, 11:45:51 PM
It's also going to expose MtGox to even *more* DDoS. Because, you know, why go after LTC pools when you can stick it to the man.

That's a risk that I'm sure the folks at MtGox have taken into consideration, and apparently they've deemed the juice worthy of the squeeze.

I can only imagine how many people will end up in the hospital due to massive hand to face trauma when that happens...
When they say things like "we are going to reinforce DDOS and working closely with one of the best DDOS protection company".... Well its probably not only PR. At one point, when the protection is big enough, it profoundly discourages even attempts...

If you guys have so much shit to say about a company that honestly didn't really do anything wrong and has been adjusting to its environment pretty well and also held itself accountable the one time it got hacked. I'm not a fanboi, I don't even have an account there. I just hear people bitch bitch and bitch for not many reasons honestly.
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 09, 2013, 11:31:02 PM
Im sorry but if you think a twit is official you are wrong. Also can I ask whether anyone in their right mind would want to trade something on a site that lags like hell. When ever a buy up happens theres lag, but not on a sell off. Its the gox guys manipulating the markets and most people cant see that. Its stupid. If anyone wanted to buy ltc they would move their btc from gox to btce... so ergo having gox accept it wont make the biggest of differences.

An official statement would be on their site. Not on a twitter or IRC feed. Those are not the channels of the users, more where they can gain a bit of publicity

I disagree. Litecoin is really only utilized by a small segment of nerds among a slightly less small segment of nerds, though the latter is briskly growing to include average investors as articles about Bitcoin begin to saturate mainstream media. Most everybody who knows anything about Bitcoin, even the casual reader of mainstream publications, is aware of MtGox. BTC-E on the other hand -- what's that? When MtGox makes an official announcement of Litecoin and Namecoin support, it's going to open up the floodgates and expose a whole new segment of people to the chains and, in theory anyway, bring in a TON of new money. People are going to want to diversify their eCurrency holdings beyond just Bitcoin and MtGox is going to enable them to do that by offering viable alternatives.
+1 to that, that has been my exact argument word for word for this common comment. And it makes a lot more sense than the comments that prequels this answer.
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MtGox & Litecoin - Its all a rumor gone out of control on: April 09, 2013, 11:20:01 PM
Im sorry but if you think a twit is official you are wrong. Also can I ask whether anyone in their right mind would want to trade something on a site that lags like hell. When ever a buy up happens theres lag, but not on a sell off. Its the gox guys manipulating the markets and most people cant see that. Its stupid. If anyone wanted to buy ltc they would move their btc from gox to btce... so ergo having gox accept it wont make the biggest of differences.

An official statement would be on their site. Not on a twitter or IRC feed. Those are not the channels of the users, more where they can gain a bit of publicity
Its not official, no. But a confirmation that an official announcement is coming this week by the CEO is good enough for me. You can close your eyes to that if you want. But it makes the word "rumor" weight a lot less.

And why does everything have to be a conspiracy theory? If I'd have to pull a number out of my ass, I'd say about 5% of the time someone calls something a conspiracy that it is true.

But then, I know a lot of people have their tin foil hat handy.
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