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521  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 29, 2013, 03:31:51 PM
Funny, was just going to post this and see you (Phoenix1) curious - just a coincidence if you believe in them.

I'm not going to play any bounces right yet. I'm going to see if any rally takes us through the 100 day EMA. We just crossed (under 10 day EMA) for the first time in a looooong time.
The 20 day or so EMA hasn't crossed and to be honest I have just played around with the 10 and 100 day - don't know that it is an accepted method.
The 10 day SMA has crossed under the 10 day EMA (slightly bearish) and that is accepted so I will still wait and look for strong confirmation of a reversal.

Regarding the hourly candles - well, the 4 and 1 hour are not doing anything and even the 15 min charts look the same. $100 is a key psychological barrier. And even if we break it, do we stay
above it for long? Next few days will be interesting and I'm curious is our WE dumper (and perhaps rescuer) re-appears.





I have analyzed by this method again in 2011:

I do not predict trend in 2013 according to 2011 bubbles.

But, who in 2011 according to this method sold and bought spared large losses (sold for 10 to 12, bought for 2-4, it is more than 250%).

Also in 2011 but the price of most collapsed after breaking Support on about $ 12 and the uptrend started to price first breached the "red line".

On the other hand, in 2011 was vastly different accumulation and distribution.

I still expect that if he falls below $ 92 a declining trend even faster this year. If we break up triangle, uptrend begins.

I believe that will see up to 10 days the end of the triangle.

522  Economy / Speculation / Re: Duble Digit Belieber's Club: on: June 28, 2013, 11:33:27 PM
im single digits fan Smiley
You are an internet troll.
Grin
523  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 10:13:22 PM
We will see $100 again before we see $89 on MtGox

it looks like we could bounce (at least temporarily)

I won't chance it. Watching the tape, the sells are just too big relative to the buys. It seems like we have regular guys buying and some really heavy sellers selling. I won't risk that. Yes, technically, I say bounce, but watching the tape, they are not hiding the sell sizes very well. It seems almost orchestrated.

I'll let the market calm down a bit before re-entering...

However, I myself still do very well.

I just watched it last fall after a couple of hours (about 7) before we returned over 100

Today (so far) looks even weaker with demand.


I'm really still learning to go with what I "feel" deeply and what the chart is sort of telling me. I'm not ready to jump in. I totally believe you though. It is a skill or art to know this (short term vs long trading and such). Way back when (internet bubble) I could look at a candlestick chart and just interpret sooo much from it. BTC doesn't speak to me like that. I don't trust what I'm seeing in just the chart alone. The market data adds a layer (and yet it is manipulated often) that we/I use.

Again, watch the sizes of the sells. I'm sure they will adjust them to hide them better but right now and for the last few weeks, the sell sizes have been noticeably bigger than the buys. I get the feeling like someone is playing us. So, no matter what the chart looks like, I don't trust it - go deeper. (BTW - If anyone knows of some way to monitor the size of sells relative to buys, I'm all ears.) The timestamp is key here also. (e.g. - You can see one seller put out a sale via a program and try to break it down, but it is all the same to the second, quite obvious. Nothing before or after it, stands out.)

Something a great great friend and teacher taught me:
Everything is data. Don't try to interpret the data. Just observe the data. No matter what you are talking about. So, with BTC, look at the charts, look at the posts, look at the USD, economy, banking, even esoteric things, etc. It is all data - don't judge it. Don't manipulate or organize the data. Just observe it. (Watching the matrix may help  Wink )That is hard as we are conditioned unconsciously to see things a certain way. Anyway, as I said before, if you can separate some of the more emotional parts (they are data - not wrong or right - you have to find out how true), from the mind, intuition, etc and develop an overall picture... Well, that is pretty powerful. But if you really get there, I don't think you (I), would be here. eheheh But you can sort of taste it as it comes your way. Grasshopper goes...

You are right that we should follow the trend without emotion.
But it is hard, not because they invest but since we want to invest in Bitcoin, because we trust him.

But business should be without emotion, definitely.
524  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
Back to current price, I missed the last bounce. I had my highest bid at $91ish, didn't got filled, so I pulled it to try to play the future bounce at $88ish. Dangerous games, but you gotta have fun Wink

by the way 91-93 will not be sorry too.
I wrote that is that we can bounce. But it is above 100 "infinitely" Asks (mainly on the Bitstamp) is always between 93-97 (MtGox) little space "to play".
525  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: June 28, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
Well, not looking as bad as before, but clearly everyone is following Gox:

Definitely I Agree.

Seems that the last minimum ($ 93 on a $ 88 MtGox) finally increased demand could be be temporary "double bottom".

But for a few hours may be different.

Notice that Bitstamp doesn't want to go below $90 ish. Sort of interesting seeing the spread go from $10 one minute to $4 the next, depending on the price.

I am not chancing this market to make a profit. The size of the sells just doesn't sit right with me. People are unloading and regular guys like us don't see it.
Well, I think I see it  Grin, so won't enter yet. This is not a stock, currency, etc. We have a beast one must be careful with. Below a certain volatility you can
trade it, but above that, just better to get out of the way...

Yes no one wants to sell below 90 and we have demand for cheaper coins. (today and last 30 days)
But decides to demand in the coming days and hours.
Without demand that would turn those boring days without volume before the fall.






526  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 09:39:03 PM
We will see $100 again before we see $89 on MtGox

it looks like we could bounce (at least temporarily)

I won't chance it. Watching the tape, the sells are just too big relative to the buys. It seems like we have regular guys buying and some really heavy sellers selling. I won't risk that. Yes, technically, I say bounce, but watching the tape, they are not hiding the sell sizes very well. It seems almost orchestrated.

I'll let the market calm down a bit before re-entering...

However, I myself still do very well.

I just watched it last fall after a couple of hours (about 7) before we returned over 100

Today (so far) looks even weaker with demand.




527  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
We will see $100 again before we see $89 on MtGox

it looks like we could bounce (at least temporarily)

But it looks very weak..

I just wanted to edit my last post.

As is well seen that after 93 95-96, but it's not enough to 98-100 so far

528  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 09:12:35 PM
We will see $100 again before we see $89 on MtGox

it looks like we could bounce (at least temporarily)
529  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITSTAMP eXchange wall Observer. second biggest and best exchange on: June 28, 2013, 08:59:40 PM
Well, not looking as bad as before, but clearly everyone is following Gox:

Definitely I Agree.

Seems that the last minimum ($ 93 on a $ 88 MtGox) finally increased demand could be be temporary "double bottom".

But for a few hours may be different.
530  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where we are. on: June 28, 2013, 08:29:07 PM
is obv sloping up or down now?

The indicator I am watching is sloping down slightly, but it is darn near flat. By no means indicates that the price decline is sustainable.



yes, have you seen this? cheapest coins are getting more and more expensive as time goes on. Full on isometric triangle as far as I can tell
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245385.msg2601338#msg2601338

yes, but last low was $ 93 (June), now we 93 $ (92.25).

This trend is breaking just now  Sad

 
531  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where we break the downward trend and rebound from the current bottom? on: June 28, 2013, 08:05:15 PM
We're exactly at the junction last lows (support line from May 3) on MtGox.

2 monthly triangle is complete.




532  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: June 28, 2013, 01:08:57 PM

I would be all over some $-20 bitcoins
for you i can resize the scale even to -280USD
+1 effort to keep special ppl happy

Very Ultra bearish  Smiley
533  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: June 28, 2013, 12:51:10 PM

hmm it looks almost like ...



 Angry
I drew that one at around April 20th and its still under development. Sorry, no notebook around my hand, so no pics, but this one is correct. We go down slowly and hardy. No changes in my predictions since Apr 20th, so I am silent.

I remember that you drew it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.1760  Wink
534  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: June 28, 2013, 10:08:48 AM

Yes but after about 93 $ (90 to Bitstamp) just surrender to the earlier lows.
Now it'is the last chance to double bottom ..
535  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
Did you guys realized that there are only $511k in Bitstamp's order book?

When the exodus of coins from MtGox started after the Dwolla situation, many in here said that fiat was following too, but that it would have taken time as it slower to move. Well, absolute maximum fiat on Bitstamp after Dwolla was $1.1m, and now is less than half of it. Fiat is really leaving Bitcoin for good, as expected.

To give a little bit of context, the ratio between fiat on Bitstamp and Gox has consistently been 1:20. When we had $1M on Bitstamp, we had aprox. $20M on Gox. Now we have $511k on Bitstamp and $11M on Gox.

Gox is still the leading exchange for a reason. Expect a bear in which you will see much less "Bitcoin is a ponzi" talk compared to 2011, but a lot more "OMG the government thugs are coming after us, seizing all our money and eventually locking us up in Guantanamo".

Anyhow, the negative sentiment needs to be MUCH stronger in order to reach the real bottom, which I still hope it will be $50ish. I won't be surprised by $30-$50, I will be puzzled if we go below $30, and quite disappointed if we go below $20.

Anyhow, fasten your seat belts - its going to be a bumpy ride (gif expected, come on guys!)


Asks / bids on Bitstamp is really pessimistic...

Bitstamp last low from June 9 = 90.00, Bitstamp low now = 90.07  Angry
536  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: June 28, 2013, 09:04:27 AM
As for daily, my issue with that is that we don't have it entering the triangle initially from the top and bouncing off the bottom.  Instead it bounces low outside the bounds, then enters the triangle and bounces off the top.  This gives the triangle a slightly more bullish character than the one I posted.  

So you expect at the end of the triangle first break up and then fall down?  Wink

I'm honestly about 60/40 bearish on the daily at this point.  It would take some intense short term buying pressure to base a rally from here.

But that's assuming a breakout....  We could very well move sideways for a while.

similarly, I'd like to see break, but I do not say "that's in front of us:, because we want it.

Our wishes does not change the market.
537  Economy / Speculation / Re: Slowing in the rate of decline on: June 28, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
I'm afraid I've lost my faith in Bitcoin. Somebody save me..

thats because you are reading the high price which is always volatile.. check out the monthly low price.. you will see there is a constant rise. the low price is more of the indicator of true value and growth indicators.. the high price is just pure speculation and should be ignored for long term investors


yes, if not break 88 (or 93 from June in July), yet still true that "the cheapest coins are every month more and more expensive" ...

This trend is breaking just now   Sad
538  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 08:50:58 AM
Did you guys realized that there are only $511k in Bitstamp's order book?

When the exodus of coins from MtGox started after the Dwolla situation, many in here said that fiat was following too, but that it would have taken time as it slower to move. Well, absolute maximum fiat on Bitstamp after Dwolla was $1.1m, and now is less than half of it. Fiat is really leaving Bitcoin for good, as expected.

To give a little bit of context, the ratio between fiat on Bitstamp and Gox has consistently been 1:20. When we had $1M on Bitstamp, we had aprox. $20M on Gox. Now we have $511k on Bitstamp and $11M on Gox.

Gox is still the leading exchange for a reason. Expect a bear in which you will see much less "Bitcoin is a ponzi" talk compared to 2011, but a lot more "OMG the government thugs are coming after us, seizing all our money and eventually locking us up in Guantanamo".

Anyhow, the negative sentiment needs to be MUCH stronger in order to reach the real bottom, which I still hope it will be $50ish. I won't be surprised by $30-$50, I will be puzzled if we go below $30, and quite disappointed if we go below $20.

Anyhow, fasten your seat belts - its going to be a bumpy ride (gif expected, come on guys!)


Asks / bids on Bitstamp is really pessimistic...
539  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: June 28, 2013, 08:46:30 AM
As for daily, my issue with that is that we don't have it entering the triangle initially from the top and bouncing off the bottom.  Instead it bounces low outside the bounds, then enters the triangle and bounces off the top.  This gives the triangle a slightly more bullish character than the one I posted.  

So you expect at the end of the triangle first break up and then fall down?  Wink
540  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 28, 2013, 08:39:56 AM
Are we meeting some price resistance? What does candlestick charts says? is they are going to have some see saw swing? is price going to taper off ? now is $97.4009

However, someone sells but someone is trying to catch (so far) the cheapest coins of today.

Only the next days (maybe hours) show further development.
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