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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: October 02, 2017, 01:20:59 PM
Hackers Exploiting Microsoft Servers to Mine Monero - Makes $63,000 In 3 Months

Mining cryptocurrencies can be a costly investment as it takes a monstrous amount of computing power, and thus hackers have started using malware that steals computing resources of computers it hijacks to make lots of dollars in digital currency.
Security researchers at security firm ESET have spotted one such malware that infected hundreds of Windows web servers with a malicious cryptocurrency miner and helps cybercriminals made more than $63,000 worth of Monero (XMR) in just three months.
According to a report published by ESET today, cybercriminals only made modifications to legitimate open source Monero mining software and exploited a known vulnerability in Microsoft IIS 6.0 to secretly install the miner on unpatched Windows servers.

Source : https://thehackernews.com/2017/09/windows-monero-miners.html?m=1

I wonder why web admins use Linux servers 90% of the time.

I still wonder why general consumers use Windows 90% of the time, despite the wannacry stuff and other fiascos.
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: EtherDelta - Decentralized Token Exchange on: October 02, 2017, 01:17:46 PM
eth network is bloated as hell these days, to top the fact that etherdelta lacks basic trading facilities. hope a real exchange on the eth blockchain will launch soon

The word "bloated" is so misused here ,in fact people misuse it always.

The correct term would be overloaded.

Bloated refers to the code, sort of meaning innefficiency, which ETH is actually. It is badly coded so it's slower compared to other concepts like EOS. But the block size is problematic too.

There was a statistic showing that ED transactions are actually filling up the ETH blocks with an about 50% ratio. That is impressive, ED requires a lot of volume then.
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: EtherDelta - Decentralized Token Exchange on: September 28, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
I made a mistake of sending suretly token to my etherdelta account, can I ever recover the token?
doesnt it show up in your account balance?
no suretly on etherdelta exchange but can be seen through etherscan. Not on my balance

Log into your balance on ED and select that token from that dropdown list.

It has to be there.
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: September 28, 2017, 12:39:31 PM
VERI is a "mature" token in that it's been out a while (relative to ongoing flurry of ICOs) and thus its price should be fairly stable. The price should reflect overall market movements and investor sentiment mostly; however, due to fairly low volume it's going to be susceptible to large holders rebalancing their portfolios.

Investor sentiment could be the cause here... and maybe not so much a loss in confidence in VERI but maybe VERI has lost its shine in the shadow of the recent and upcoming shiny ICOs. VERI holders may be attracted to some shiny new products. Reggie's updates have been nice but there hasn't been a lot of "concrete" news releases. I also think that the purpose and utility of VERI is still fuzzy to some people, and that they are waiting for a concrete or real-life use case to be presented. Telling people that a VERI token gives someone "access" to the "VERI platform" is hard to conceptualize in real terms. I think the world is waiting for the JSE project to go live so people can get a firmer understanding of exactly how it all works and more importantly, how the VERI token is used.

Token holders/investors seem to be a fickle bunch. Everyone wants those 20x gains but they don't seem to have the patience to wait for them. Most don't seem to realize that in many of these ICOs you are buying into a the early stages of a project and these projects take time to develop. That's why the tokens are so cheap now. They will not be when VERI starts to mature. I think I told this story before on here but I bought Chipotle stock right after its IPO many years ago. I held it for 6 months and after the stock price failed to move I sold it. Big mistake. I know VERI (and PPT) will be the same way, but I'm not selling this time.


All the NEW ICO's are scams and hype.

Stick with what you can trust. In VERI and PPT we have a very professional team with a very promising idea and the skills required to actually fulfill it.

Most tokens, especially the new ones are outright scams that literally use identity theft to copy paste some random guy's photo into their "About Us" page. Bogus scam websites with anonymous owners.

The ICO market has really devolved into a den of thieves. So you got to trust the projects that actually have legitimate reputable people behind it. They are getting buried under the scams, but once the scams go away, they will float to the surface and they will be the ones that will survive.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: EtherDelta - Decentralized Token Exchange on: September 28, 2017, 12:34:43 PM
I made a mistake of sending suretly token to my etherdelta account, can I ever recover the token?
doesnt it show up in your account balance?
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: September 28, 2017, 12:28:31 PM

Since you put lots of time to understand Monero i hope that you know that  classical mantra that " They already had their system cracked a couple of years ago, with all previous transactions exposed," never happened.


Let me try to get this straight, he's trusting dash's masternodes to keep his anonymity, but doesn't trust monero because there might be some magic key that renders monero anonymity useless, without any hints or even far fetched theories that such key even exists? Great foundation for a religion, all glory to the monero magic key!

I know they are bullshitting us in the Dash thread. The bigger the vulnerability the bigger is their trolling efforts to cover it up.

When I first went there, havent posted there before, they immediately started calling me a troll for just asking simple questions.

Now what community does that, unless they have something big to hide?

Without scams like dash this scene would have moved forward so much faster, it like M$ fucking over the OS industry and look where we are now.

I can understand your frustration, I also don't like dishonest, but perhaps they have their own utility without it.

I mean DASH cant be worse than Bitcoin and it scales better. The only thing that I dont like is that they advertise themselves as anonymous which they aren't, and that is dishonest advertising which will cause a lot of harm to naive people.
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: September 26, 2017, 10:35:07 AM

Update: We are making great progress towards the Populous beta. Don't forget that November is our beta launch date.

November is after thirty-five or more days hopefully this date PPT Beta will be launched.

Things are heating up aren't they, it looks like the trading volume has consolidated.

I really expect a 7-8$ price by the end of November.

Yeah it's all behind the scenes.  Quiet on the PPT front.  We are criminally underpriced.  I'd love for one of my other holdings to pop just so I can pour more into PPT. So many good projects out there that there's a little bit too much of what have you done for me lately and babies getting thrown out with the bath water.

It's probably because of the recent ED fiasco. A lot of volume has dried up, or moved to HitBTC, so not essentially we have 2 illiquid order books compared to 1 semi-liquid.

People have to regain confidence in the exchanges, then we will see more trading activity and better pricing.
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: September 26, 2017, 10:30:39 AM
Can somebody explain to me if what this guy claims is true or not, or how exactly does Monero work:


Did you even READ what Toknormal said?  There is no "Hopium" as you can SEE everything done on the blockchain, you simply can't TRACE it.  The Inputs and outputs are clear, Dash mixes by creating exactly the same denominations and entering them in the block chain at the same time, input = output and thus with one round, an output has 3 possible inputs.  Do this once, you have the same amount of "mixing" as Monero has.  But there is a possibility that the Masternode, who only gets chosen 1:4500 times, is spying, so we allow for as many rounds of mixing as you care to do.  After 8 rounds of mixing, even if someone can spy with 80% of the masternodes, the likelihood of seeing where funds are is minuscule.  And that's basically for the paranoid, because Masternodes are well distributed and all over the world.

In Monero, you can not see the blockchain.  Inputs and outputs are obfuscated in a mess.  Which by the way, how do you know there is no key to unravel?  Dash does this with logic, not mathematical trickery.  Who can know if there is a key to unravel a "one way encryption"?  This part I may be ignorant on, but as I can't understand it, I don't trust it.  They already had their system cracked a couple of years ago, with all previous transactions exposed, how do we know that won't happen again?  Dash uses pure logic and statistics.  With that, you can keep a transparent blockchain that can be audited to make sure it is functioning properly, that no extra coins were somehow inserted that weren't part of the rewards produced, etc...  It also allows for functions where a transparent blockchain is desirable, such as charities that want to show how their funds are spent, or the Core team, who do not mix their funds, and clearly show how they are spending funds so we can see if they are trustworthy or not. 

And without the transparent blockchain, without this system of Masternodes, without the budget system, there could be no Evolution.  Evolution will be a completely decentralized yet easy to use system, like logging into your bank account, moving funds to different "accounts" and making payments as easily as Paypal.  ALL DECENTRALIZED!!!  No "3rd party service" which is what web wallets are, BTW, so know your funds are as at risk there as they are in an exchange.

Anyway, I hope this helps, if you still don't see the value, please stop shilling Monero here, you won't get anywhere with it with this audience.


Specifically interested about the part where he claims that an additional "master key" can be inserted into the protocol as a backdoor to reveal all public keys with it.

It seems like a lot of people are confusing Monero with Zcash's closed trusted setup.

Please explain.
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: EtherDelta - Decentralized Token Exchange on: September 26, 2017, 12:18:24 AM
Updated the first post with more relevant info, and added a more recent screenshot. It looks like the GUI got improved since the latest one, good job!
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash| First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: September 25, 2017, 11:04:26 PM

Ignore the guy. He is a full retard. He and Icebreaker are only able to speak shit and crap because they lick each others asshole every day. It is funny how people that have a coin that allowed to create coins out of nothing dare to talk about humiliation LOL. Real humiliation belongs to their mothers for having suffered 9 months to deliver such 2 pieces of shit.

You are such a lousy troll Diego. You have been trolling all over the place (from AMP to DASH), shamelessly.

I can't believe people still take you seriously.
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: September 25, 2017, 11:01:29 PM

Update: We are making great progress towards the Populous beta. Don't forget that November is our beta launch date.

November is after thirty-five or more days hopefully this date PPT Beta will be launched.

Things are heating up aren't they, it looks like the trading volume has consolidated.

I really expect a 7-8$ price by the end of November.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: September 24, 2017, 10:47:55 PM


The Monero blockchain can NOT be verified with a pubkey.  A Monero Transaction Can be verified,  That is a BIG difference. 
Yes thanks for correction.

Why would you want to verify other's transactions? That is the entire point, that you shouldn't.

If the protocol and the encoding procedure is bug-free, then it's just as valid transaction even if it's masked. And we know the whole point of hash functions and public key cryptography is that you cant recreate the same data from different source, collision protection.

If that mechanism is sound, then who cares what the transaction is, nobody can steal your money and nobody even knows who and how much money they have. Only those that you do business with will.

That is the whole point. You don't need a public ledge, a rich list, and such. It's very privacy invasive.

It’s all based on trust: trust in the “hopium” than that the client you happen to be using actually faithfully implements the protocol; trust in the ‘experts’ that the chain is ok when either some rogue group says it isn’t or when your own client software says it isn’t; trust in developers that the code isn’t doing some mad corrupt leakage out to an address that nobody can see or audit; trust in a centralised encryption algorithm that it won't be sprung open with a can opener a few years down the line to reveal every transaction in history. (A 'viewkey' doesn't in the least change this fact by the way. All a viewkey is is a private key with read-only privilages, it isn't a substitute for a fully transparent chain).


Just as with Dash's hopium that the Masternode system won't be broken or abused in some way.
...etc...

Did you even READ what Toknormal said?  There is no "Hopium" as you can SEE everything done on the blockchain, you simply can't TRACE it.  The Inputs and outputs are clear, Dash mixes by creating exactly the same denominations and entering them in the block chain at the same time, input = output and thus with one round, an output has 3 possible inputs.  Do this once, you have the same amount of "mixing" as Monero has.  But there is a possibility that the Masternode, who only gets chosen 1:4500 times, is spying, so we allow for as many rounds of mixing as you care to do.  After 8 rounds of mixing, even if someone can spy with 80% of the masternodes, the likelihood of seeing where funds are is minuscule.  And that's basically for the paranoid, because Masternodes are well distributed and all over the world.

In Monero, you can not see the blockchain.  Inputs and outputs are obfuscated in a mess.  Which by the way, how do you know there is no key to unravel?  Dash does this with logic, not mathematical trickery.  Who can know if there is a key to unravel a "one way encryption"?  This part I may be ignorant on, but as I can't understand it, I don't trust it.  They already had their system cracked a couple of years ago, with all previous transactions exposed, how do we know that won't happen again?  Dash uses pure logic and statistics.  With that, you can keep a transparent blockchain that can be audited to make sure it is functioning properly, that no extra coins were somehow inserted that weren't part of the rewards produced, etc...  It also allows for functions where a transparent blockchain is desirable, such as charities that want to show how their funds are spent, or the Core team, who do not mix their funds, and clearly show how they are spending funds so we can see if they are trustworthy or not. 

And without the transparent blockchain, without this system of Masternodes, without the budget system, there could be no Evolution.  Evolution will be a completely decentralized yet easy to use system, like logging into your bank account, moving funds to different "accounts" and making payments as easily as Paypal.  ALL DECENTRALIZED!!!  No "3rd party service" which is what web wallets are, BTW, so know your funds are as at risk there as they are in an exchange.

Anyway, I hope this helps, if you still don't see the value, please stop shilling Monero here, you won't get anywhere with it with this audience.



I have to investigate this, I'll come back to your post.
533  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2017, 10:46:29 PM

A few days ago, lots of the twitter peeps that I follow were encouraging people to go on over to BitMEX and short the crap out of BTC. Many people ended up getting rekt with dead cat bounces. Good luck to you. I hope that your "system" is a real harpoon whale killer. Grin Needless to say, many of those same twitter peeps now have the wind knocked out of their sails.  Reminds me of Moby Dick. The whale wins in the end.Grin

I'm not shorting via a CFD position on an exchange, via margin trading.

I am doing a manual short using SBD to keep my purchasing power while BTC/USD potentially goes down. It's less risky that way (and no counterparty risk either):

https://steemit.com/money/@profitgenerator/profit-from-crypto-crash
534  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2017, 07:03:06 AM

I could go on, but the real point is that you seem to be accusing us of saying "it's different this time" when actually we are saying exactly the opposite

So what are you implying that the USD will go into hyperinflation overnight?

That is silly to assume, it has plenty of backing, one of it is a huge military political influence. If the USD were to fall really the world would go with it basically.

So no the USD will not go into hyperinflation certainly not in the next 20-30 years.
535  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2017, 06:30:43 AM

But I don't even care if you believe in me or not. I have put out my opinions, everyone does what he wants with them. I don't care if you lose or win money at this point. I know I will make money if the market goes down.

You really think that you can outmaneuver DCG and other whales? Grin I certainly hope that you don't plan on margin shorting this shit. Rest assured, the whales will quietly close their shorts before you and then squeeze you out of your short to buy their expensive coins at the top of the next sucker's rally. Good luck trying to figure out this volatile and illiquid market, that can be manipulated at the whim of whales. These "whales" don't even need to have a billion USD in fiat/BTC. A few 10s of millions of USD worth should do the trick, if that.  Cheesy

It would be easy.


thing is, we have been hearing this EXACT same shit since the $32 "bubble"

shit, I sold 100 BTC at, wait for it, $13 each, to "lock in" profits

let's just say I am unlikely to listen to that kind of advise again

Not from me. I have been bullish on BTC until 2017. Now I think the bullish trend is about to end.



Don't be ridiculous.  No one is saying that the market is going go up forever, even though we are currently in an upwards trajectory and currently in a bull market.  Still way too fucking early to be saying that the bull market has come to an end, even though it could come to an end at any time...



They do. People are fantasizing here, on the /bitcoin subreddit and even in news publications about 1,000,000$ /BTC prices.

How is that not a silly exageration?


There is such a thing as cut and paste, and there is also such a thing as explanation..  Apparently you are too good to attempt either one.


I really hate to explain myself multiple times, and I really dont care what you believe. I have made my case, now we wait and see what happens.

536  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2017, 01:19:36 AM

Have you ever thought about metacalfe's law?  If you are trying to equate bitcoin with other currencies then you are going to be off base because bitcoin is way fucking early to be pigeon-holed like that.. and to act like  it is same ole same ole.

Yeah and no market goes up forever. What goes up comes down. Being in this permabull/shill mentality is very wrong. It the same as those foolish  traders before the 2008 crisis.



Why don't just communicate with the rest of us like you are a normal person rather than attempting imbue status upon yourself and to patronize the rest of us.


I have already explained it, I wrote a few posts about it in my blog. I don't think this thread is the best place to explain it in detail.



But I don't even care if you believe in me or not. I have put out my opinions, everyone does what he wants with them. I don't care if you lose or win money at this point. I know I will make money if the market goes down.
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: September 24, 2017, 01:10:26 AM
I just found about this:

https://basicattentiontoken.org/bat-mercury-pre-launch-technical-update/

Now you can see how bad Synereo has progressed in the past 4 years. BAT will already launch a working product on october 6. A fully working product, not a chrome extension. These are the hard facts. If Synereo doesn't gear up, they will lose the social media battle in crypto space.

Brave is just another Chromium-based browser. It allows you to use the BAT token and blocks adds automatically. It's good and fast but not that much different from Chrome. To use BAT to tip content creators, you have to use Brave.

Mostly everyone uses Chrome so they don't have to switch browsers in order to use Wildspark. You can't earn from tipping content creators with the BAT token like you can with AMP.

In my opinion, BAT's tipping platform won't gain traction unless the team made a Chrome extension and gave users some sort of incentive as well. Your thoughts?

Well said, plus I believe there was some hassle with Brave that some newspapers were not happy with the adblocking/adswitching stuff that Brave was trying to implement:
http://www.businessinsider.com/newspaper-publishers-send-cease-and-desist-to-brave-browser-2016-4
https://www.quora.com/Will-the-threatened-lawsuit-against-Brave-the-browser-manage-to-shut-it-down

Kind of the same as Ablock was sued recently:
https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-plus-sued-by-german-marketing-companies

It seems like blocking & tinkering ads for commercial reasons can be a basis for lawsuit. But only for commercial reasons, it seems like adblockers like Ublock and things like that that operate noncomercially are fine. This is because Adblock got greedy and they started charging money for whitelisting ads, which is pretty shameful, so maybe those companies felt ripped off that is why they did that.

So it looks like it's not wise to mess up the ad system for profit.



Wildspark is not in danger here in my opinion. Their platform just totally ignores the ad system, whatever those websites would use, so even if you block ads (or if you are a content creator and your audience blocks ads) you can still make money via the Wildspark platform. It has nothing to do with ads basically.

It's a very genius design in my opinion.

Synereo is obviously better than BAT.
538  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2017, 12:58:02 AM
Look kid, I have 10+ years of tradin experience, made good money over the years.
I know the market, and this is going down.
By the way it already went down and it will probably continue to go down despite your irrational exuberance, and the countless shills on this thread trying to talk it up. It doesn't work.

Cool story, bro.

Bitcorn doesn't give a shit about your 10+ years of tradin' experience.

Neither it does about yours, especially if your analysis is just drawing a few lines on the chart.


I can always tell which way those with "a lot of trading experience" believe the price of bitcoin will go.

They have all of that experience, they are so great with the market that they failed to see the potential value of Bitcoin and how it would jump to thousands of dollars each.

Even now they don't get it and all of their "experience" still tells them it is worthless, so obviously the price will go to zero. So they can get back to their stocks and bonds.

I didn;t know about Bitcoin in 2009, but I would guarantee you that I would have invested minimum 2500 EUR into BTC if I had known about it. I was always amazed by internet stuff, seeing Youtube, Google and FB grow suggested to me that any cryptocurrency would immediately have huge value.

So I have pretty good insights compared to other "experienced" traders.

Besides I wasn't in stocks or bonds, I was in real estate and agro land.

539  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 24, 2017, 12:53:37 AM

I second that. BitCoin isn't like 'other' markets.

I can tell you from my experience ...

And I can tell you from experience that whatever you think you know about some canonical market is absolutely inapplicable here.

That is nonsense , of course each market is different, but the principle of mean reversion always applies, especially to currencies.

It's a random walk with some biases that persist which can be used to predict the x+1 datapoint if you were a HFT trader, or even go into the orderbook and play with the tick data. There are plenty of quant tools available to play with that.

In my opinion the bull market is over. And it makes sense fundamentally too. This Chinese ban thing is getting hot and it will have big ramifications in the near future.


You are wrong. Quote this for future reference; bitcoin at a price of $3600 is a good buy.

Sure do that. It's fun to argue with sheeps who go with the flock but money is not made that way.

540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: iDice ICO [ANN] - World's First Mobile Blockchain Dice 🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: September 23, 2017, 04:25:10 AM
Still no information from the dev. I think project is running to a scam project. No info no dividends nothing goin on

Isn't the dividend system automatic? What is the point of the smart contract if not?

I don't really understand what the heck is going on.
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