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guys, you dont get the point. if we dont trust the op, we are free to do so. if you trust the op and throw your money at him, you are free to do so.
if op is running around screaming: "REMOVE MY NEG OR I WONT PAY PEOPLE" it translates to "thank you for givin me a nice exit strategy to run away with people money" he would have scamed sooner or later anyways. if the amount he is running away is small, good thing.
anyways most ponzi operators have -ve and they dont care.
And thats the thing i was talking about! The exit strategy! You gave him this opportunity to hold hostage our money and OF COURSE he or anybody else, will use this. I dont make calculations about the amount but i hope that is small... Anyways, like my "buddy" said in his previous post, case is closed. EDIT : I am sure that nobody trust an OP of a ponzi or a doubler or a trippler...
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For start, look the throughout conversation here. Then, if you understand what happend, put a post with your opinion. I have deal with it a long time ago and not now. I didnt blame anyone for my choises and you should do the same. I didnt ask from anybody to help me. Its that clear enough for you...buddy?
Then why are you pressurizing mexxer-2 to remove negative trust? He will not remove it ever because this is an obvious ponzi. Case closed. Game over. And stop whining already. I am pressurizing Mexxer? And who are you, his daddy? Yes, i agree. Case is closed but game is not over! And i am not whining. Not yet, not ever. Now go and play some dice...
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You forgot some other ways also... 1. Talking. 2. Share experiences. 3. Advice.
Its not the money that i lost, is the way i lost them.
But you guys (i am not mean you personally) dont want to "teach" us fools as Mexxer said. Ok, its fine by me. I learn now!
Hey let me tell you my story. I was also into a fool's errand and I invested $20 (now it is $33) in one of the ponzi scams. I was overjoyed at first thinking about their unbelievable profits like 7000% profit in 100 days. Yes I was such a noob at that time. And my journey on Bitcointalk started with a scam accusation which I know will never ever get solved. That was my sour experience ever. You must learn to deal with it. It is your fault to invest in such a volatile asset. Why will someone help you for your fault? Get away with it buddy. For start, look the throughout conversation here. Then, if you understand what happend, put a post with your opinion. I have deal with it a long time ago and not now. I didnt blame anyone for my choises and you should do the same. I didnt ask from anybody to help me. Its that clear enough for you...buddy?
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There are 3 ways of learning:
Learning by reading. Learning by pain. Learning by paying.
You might have lost some money now, it will help you wont loose more money in the future.
Would you guys send me the money you have sent to op because i promise you something??
You forgot some other ways also... 1. Talking. 2. Share experiences. 3. Advice. Its not the money that i lost, is the way i lost them. But you guys (i am not mean you personally) dont want to "teach" us fools as Mexxer said. Ok, its fine by me. I learn now!
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Dont repeat the whole conversation...
You make your point Lutpin...
You, Mexxer etc are the Smartones, we are the fools...
Bravo, thanks for helping us out with this.
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LOL , that guy is amazing , what a dush bag Man, this guy its something MORE than amazing!!!
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Really? So where are your voice and opinion to all the other scams here? Where is your voice when DualBitcoin gets our money and STILL "advertice" that he is "paying"? You came here to support Mexxer, not me. Not the "fool", not the "blind", not the "ignorant". Just your buddy.
You expect someone to spend their time educating you fools? Anyway, keep acting as if nothing happened, my neg's not going to be removed and thats the end of the story. Blame me, curse me, thats all you can do. I have sent PM to ask them to remove this negative but you guys refuse
then sent to the PM moderator for him to do something
You are double-crossing fool, thats all you are: Wait for 15 days for me to reconsider the negative, if you do not repeat the act in that period I'll change it to neutral
I hate scammer as you, but do everything as you see fit Sorry "Master of the Smartones"...
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Strength and integrety with my money?
No, with our opinion and voice. As for the problem with OP holding your money: Dont get blinded by OP, its the decision of smit1237 alone to withhold your coins.
Really? So where are your voice and opinion to all the other scams here? Where is your voice when DualBitcoin gets our money and STILL "advertice" that he is "paying"? You came here to support Mexxer, not me. Not the "fool", not the "blind", not the "ignorant". Just your buddy.
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-snip- Of course i can see it! But to remove a neg and left any OP without excuses its better.
No its not better to back down because of pressure. Actually, at that point, if we allow someone to get through with it, others will also try. It's about showing strengh and integrety. If somebody wants to give a warning, all he have to do is getting to the topic and wright his opinion about it. With the red, you give the excuse to any OP to held the money.
A post disappears, a rating from DT does not. OP does not need an excuse and you know it, they can just go whenever they think its no longer worth it. If its sooner, great because less people are scammed. Do you just complain because you still have funds with OP? Even more in a self-moderated topic. Strength and integrety with my money?
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-snip- Of course i can see it! But to remove a neg and left any OP without excuses its better.
No its not better to back down because of pressure. If somebody wants to give a warning, all he have to do is getting to the topic and wright his opinion about it. With the red, you give the excuse to any OP to held the money.
A post disappears, a rating from DT does not. OP does not need an excuse and you know it, they can just go whenever they think its no longer worth it. If its sooner, great because less people are scammed. Do you just complain because you still have funds with OP? I dont understand your question... I put my money in his "program", yes. I complain because he use as an excuse the red from Mexxer and its easy for him to remove it.
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-snip- I understand your position, but has a warning it at the top of the topic and I think that is enough
Maybe you understand, but you seem unable to tolerate it. I dont think the warning for the section is enough. if you guys are giving negative to all who create sites ponzi then you are God?
No, its funny though that this is a common "accusation". Its actually a pain in the arse to argue with people that dont want to understand you for the sake of the few that read along. I believe that responsibility to give negative or positive it is only those who invested
You have not understood the trust system here. Anyone can leave any rating they like, unless they spam someones trust page. In case of spam an admin might get involed. -snip- You dont understand nothing! I am not blind or fool or any insulting words you say about me. I dont support anyone, i dont trust any OP and for sure i dont distract! Its my thing to put my money where ever i want. MY THING! Mexxer give him an excuse, thank you for your help...
You should be allowed to invest in any shady programm you may (you are) the OP should be allowed to promote their shady programm here (they are), but mexxer-2 should not allow issue a warning if they see something they consider shady. Do you not see the hypocrisy? Of course i can see it! But to remove a neg and left any OP without excuses its better. If somebody wants to give a warning, all he have to do is getting to the topic and wright his opinion about it. With the red, you give the excuse to any OP to held the money.
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5 bucks says condoras is an alt of bitenlarge (or smit whatever).
This was the gambling section right?
Be serious man...
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-snip- Instead of blaming those that try to prevent others from falling for the scam, blame yourself for participating in it. What do you think where your payment would have come from? From those that would have gotten scammed in your stead.
And your gambling earnings came from where? From the OP of the casino??? Whats your point here? I already understood that you blindly trusted OP without any reason to and call it gambling. There is a big difference if I can actually verify every roll. Can you verify each of the "investments" here? Can you attest that OP did not invest without risk while you all took it? Dont try to distract by trying to discredit provably fair, it only makes you look silly. You dont understand nothing! I am not blind or fool or any insulting words you say about me. I dont support anyone, i dont trust any OP and for sure i dont distract! Its my thing to put my money where ever i want. MY THING! Mexxer give him an excuse, thank you for your help...
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Its so easy to remove the neg vote and to see all of us the "scam" but you dont!
It's so easy for OP to continue his ponzi even with neg trust, but he doesn't. Instead of that, you are "joking" with the PM's that we are sending to you (thanks for that, you are a true hero!!!) and continuing to give him the excuse to let all of us unpaid.
Those are no excuses, that's just someone trying to blame a 3rd party for their scam. And yes, i will blame you!
I've left negative trust to OP also, will you blame me aswell? I repeat: I agree with all of you about OP. Its a ponzi, a scam, whatever. Its easy to remove the red and see all of us the scam. You dont. Why? Because...i dont know!!! Instead of that, you give him the excuse to held our money (and not yours!) and argue about this scammer between us. Thank you guys! Instead of blaming those that try to prevent others from falling for the scam, blame yourself for participating in it. What do you think where your payment would have come from? From those that would have gotten scammed in your stead. And your gambling earnings came from where? From the OP of the casino???
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1.So, in your "sign campaign" you see the dice rolling...
It's called provably fair, you should look it up some time. 2. If you want to warn members, just make a post or start a topic. Now you give the excuse for any scammer to do the same.
So you admit OP is a scammer?! 1. I know what is provably fair" and its NOT a casino... 2. OF COURSE is a scammer!!! But why you give him the excuse? This is i dont get
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Its so easy to remove the neg vote and to see all of us the "scam" but you dont!
It's so easy for OP to continue his ponzi even with neg trust, but he doesn't. Instead of that, you are "joking" with the PM's that we are sending to you (thanks for that, you are a true hero!!!) and continuing to give him the excuse to let all of us unpaid.
Those are no excuses, that's just someone trying to blame a 3rd party for their scam. And yes, i will blame you!
I've left negative trust to OP also, will you blame me aswell? I repeat: I agree with all of you about OP. Its a ponzi, a scam, whatever. Its easy to remove the red and see all of us the scam. You dont. Why? Because...i dont know!!! Instead of that, you give him the excuse to held our money (and not yours!) and argue about this scammer between us. Thank you guys!
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[ color=red][ size=14pt] what part is that?[/size][/color] [ color=green] I invest in this site![/color] before people get discussed those with a level of confidence negative or positive must see that there are people who have invested, if the site has problems that returns all btc all that investedInstead of being negative for giving everyone who creates a ponzi site because so created should invest and not receive may by this negative[ color=red][ size=16pt] This section of gambling and everyone is aware of it. if someone is stolen money it's his fault[/size][/color] [ color=green][ size=14pt] Be always giving negative level of confidence when even invested guess wrong[/size][/color] [ color=blue][ size=18pt] That remove the negative and that this admin in pay because I do not have anything to do with your fight child...[/size][/color] I dont know how you can call it gambling if you cant see the dice thrown, but just get told the result. I dont care if you are stupid enough to just accept that as gamble while your "luck" sole depends on OPs arbitrary decisions. I have discussed long with ponzi "gamblers" to understand that their game can never be fair in a way that the player can know it. Its just faith in an anonymous figure. It is mexxer-2s right to issue a warning for those that are not aware. Its the same freedom OP has by having a thread here and the same freedom that allows you to "gamble" your coins. Dont get blinded by OP, its the decision of smit1237 alone to withhold your coins. We just issue the warnings in the hope that at least a few think twice even though hope was lost for this section the day it was created. 1.So, in your "sign campaign" you see the dice rolling... 2. If you want to warn members, just make a post or start a topic. Now you give the excuse for any scammer to do the same.
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