Edit: didn't see dooglus' post, gonna read it later. I can't wrap my head around this idea that equity in a vacume (not influenced by human traits like time or emotion) can be influenced by variance. If I give you 1 BTC and tell you that you have to wager 10 BTC at a 10% house edge, the EV of that bonus is exactly 0, as you calculate above.
To say more than that we will need to know the terms of the bonus.
For example, with some bonuses I am allowed to "cancel" it at any time. But does cancelling a bonus remove the full 1 BTC from my balance, or just the amount I didn't already lose of the bonus?
Ok, let's say we're playing on a dice site with a 1% house edge. We have a bonus balance of 1,000 with the following terms. We must choose one of three bets to make for an amount between 1 and 1,000 After the first bet - we can not change it. We have to make that same bet over and over and over. Options A) 1.01x B) 2x C) 750x (all with 1% HE as seen on just-dice and ignoring any potentially exploitable rounding issues) There are only two possible outcomes : A) meet the wagering requirement and cash out balance or B) go broke Let's say in one scenario there was a 10x playthrough, and another with 100x. |
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Friends chilashin just sent himself BTC.086 lol *I deplored the acts which you are. And about 3 users in recent days might envy or selfish is the reason
You want spoil the topic in any way possible
* Acts was very bad (insults. Cursing. Racism. Envy. Selfishness),
*but what I did was all out to success. chelashin received the money after a long struggle here with the Site
Bad acts which you are. You bear the responsibility in your own conscience
hi friends chelashin i will send you some btc after In recognition of your efforts Money is not a problem for me in life I support the righteous men anywhere . I love ethicsI . love the righteous people i will send you between 86 mbtc ( 50 dollar)This time Maybe it's a small amount I'll send you again another gift In the coming days for me. chelashin is not good men chelashin will lose everything Sorry for the presence of such people your btc adress: 1Hs7hv9qcs9kYh1SoytpjifpTHhMyU81M blockchain id : cff21ea5fb902c3ac745796ced731f92611aa66a4c6471979dba2eca95dd7fe9 so chelashin promised to give friends chelashin a gift and He did not do . Although he won a lot !!!!!
This is unfortunate . To see men helped him until the end. And then he turns his back after receiving money
Sorry to see this topic sad endings
It is very sad.
And does not lead to good
We hope chelashin send him this gift
Humpertle Anxiety and anger Maybe the money will be sent to friends chelashin soon  hi chelachin or kurdistan
this is bad bad bad .
We are afraid your friend touch you with evil or Things bad
Do not be fooled by money. Or some of the bad guys do not want good for any one
I advise you to send what you promised your friend. At least send him a half
And otherwise will befall you hated or evil will not be enough you configure 1000 btc
chelachin Send to your friends what you promised him .
skimp 5 btc lose everything (((((((( Health or something else)))))))
Maybe your friend desperately needs money
Perhaps it is the patient
Your friend will catch you with evil ((((((((((Or dissatisfaction about you))))))))
To avoid bad things might curses or diseases
Treason is not good
Curse . very dangerous
What is that
I am player of pocketdice.io
One of them copy the URL in the chat
And that was my opinion.
I'm a newbie or not
This is not important
I defend the good and just
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^ Disregard my answer. I believe the question is not solvable with the information you gave. My logic was based upon someone betting with 50-50 odds of winning (e.g. 0.8x multiplier) and always betting MIN(playerBalance, amountRequiredToHitWageringReq), however now that I dig deeper it appears that the EV changes depending how the player bets. (Or that is wrong, which would also make my original answer wrong). So either way, I was wrong  It's very counter-intuitive, but I believe the riskier bets you take, the higher your EV will actually be. For instance, imagine you have to wager 100 BTC @ 10% house edge. The normal expected value of doing that is -10 BTC, and the less-risky bets you make, the closer your actual result will be to the expected value. But in this case, we only have 1 BTC to wager with, so the less risky bets we do, the closer we are to certain doom (busting our 1 BTC). e.g. If we attempting to hitting the wagering requirement by doing a million tiny bets, the variance would be so small that we would always bust, and we would have 0 EV. But if we make some extremely risky bets, our variance is huge. And the benefit in this case, is our worst result is making 0 money. e.g. our EV is actually the SUM(MAX(0, result[i]) * probability[i]) so its our goal to increase the variance. Disclaimer: it's late, wait for someone like blockage or dooglus to answer this, as they're a lot more competent than me. High variance betting (both via bet size and game selection) is pretty clearly the optimal strategy for clearing high playthrough bonuses (and also lossback promotions), but I thought it was mostly due to our value of time and the fact that walking away with 1% of the bonus is the same to most as walking away with 0 and going bust on the first bet 999 times for ever one time we 900x our money is preferable. I don't see how increasing our variance should change out EV in a vacuum, but if it does - when does it start? Whether we lay 1:10, flip a coin or take a 100:1 shot, A $100 bonus with 1x playthrough always = $100 - House Edge For what it's worth I get:
1x roll over: 0.90 BTC
10x roll over: 0.563 BTC
100x roll over: 0.315 BTC
1000x roll over: 0.196 BTC How did you get this? I think 1000x seems way high, but still curious. Btw, I'm sure I was wrong, but i put my formula into excel and it came out to 97x before our original $100 was worth less than 1 penny. Theoretically even with infinite playthrough, our value would be >0. 1 $100.00 $10.00 $90.00
2 $90.00 $9.00 $81.00
3 $81.00 $8.10 $72.90
4 $72.90 $7.29 $65.61
5 $65.61 $6.56 $59.05
6 $59.05 $5.90 $53.14
7 $53.14 $5.31 $47.83
8 $47.83 $4.78 $43.05
9 $43.05 $4.30 $38.74
10 $38.74 $3.87 $34.87
11 $34.87 $3.49 $31.38
12 $31.38 $3.14 $28.24
13 $28.24 $2.82 $25.42
14 $25.42 $2.54 $22.88
15 $22.88 $2.29 $20.59
16 $20.59 $2.06 $18.53
17 $18.53 $1.85 $16.68
18 $16.68 $1.67 $15.01
19 $15.01 $1.50 $13.51
20 $13.51 $1.35 $12.16
21 $12.16 $1.22 $10.94
22 $10.94 $1.09 $9.85
23 $9.85 $0.98 $8.86
24 $8.86 $0.89 $7.98
25 $7.98 $0.80 $7.18
26 $7.18 $0.72 $6.46
27 $6.46 $0.65 $5.81
28 $5.81 $0.58 $5.23
29 $5.23 $0.52 $4.71
30 $4.71 $0.47 $4.24
31 $4.24 $0.42 $3.82
32 $3.82 $0.38 $3.43
33 $3.43 $0.34 $3.09
34 $3.09 $0.31 $2.78
35 $2.78 $0.28 $2.50
36 $2.50 $0.25 $2.25
37 $2.25 $0.23 $2.03
38 $2.03 $0.20 $1.82
39 $1.82 $0.18 $1.64
40 $1.64 $0.16 $1.48
41 $1.48 $0.15 $1.33
42 $1.33 $0.13 $1.20
43 $1.20 $0.12 $1.08
44 $1.08 $0.11 $0.97
45 $0.97 $0.10 $0.87
46 $0.87 $0.09 $0.79
47 $0.79 $0.08 $0.71
48 $0.71 $0.07 $0.64
49 $0.64 $0.06 $0.57
50 $0.57 $0.06 $0.52
51 $0.52 $0.05 $0.46
52 $0.46 $0.05 $0.42
53 $0.42 $0.04 $0.38
54 $0.38 $0.04 $0.34
55 $0.34 $0.03 $0.30
56 $0.30 $0.03 $0.27
57 $0.27 $0.03 $0.25
58 $0.25 $0.02 $0.22
59 $0.22 $0.02 $0.20
60 $0.20 $0.02 $0.18
61 $0.18 $0.02 $0.16
62 $0.16 $0.02 $0.15
63 $0.15 $0.01 $0.13
64 $0.13 $0.01 $0.12
65 $0.12 $0.01 $0.11
66 $0.11 $0.01 $0.10
67 $0.10 $0.01 $0.09
68 $0.09 $0.01 $0.08
69 $0.08 $0.01 $0.07
70 $0.07 $0.01 $0.06
71 $0.06 $0.01 $0.06
72 $0.06 $0.01 $0.05
73 $0.05 $0.01 $0.05
74 $0.05 $0.00 $0.04
75 $0.04 $0.00 $0.04
76 $0.04 $0.00 $0.03
77 $0.03 $0.00 $0.03
78 $0.03 $0.00 $0.03
79 $0.03 $0.00 $0.02
80 $0.02 $0.00 $0.02
81 $0.02 $0.00 $0.02
82 $0.02 $0.00 $0.02
83 $0.02 $0.00 $0.02
84 $0.02 $0.00 $0.01
85 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
86 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
87 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
88 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
89 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
90 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
91 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
92 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
93 $0.01 $0.00 $0.01
94 $0.01 $0.00 $0.00
95 $0.00 $0.00 $0.00
It depends on variance, not just house edge. So you would need to know the total number, chances of and payouts of each event. It's very counter-intuitive, but I believe the riskier bets you take, the higher your EV will actually be.
Exactly. It can even get positive. How do you calculate this? |
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It really would be a big help if you gave us all the details. You obv want to help and are not spamming things up. Edit: It's pretty clear you bought the account on August 17th Old Account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=872917Who did you buy it from, can you give me transaction id? |
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I don't follow why WPN would need any escrow of funds.
Because unlike any other tournament of SNG, the rake isn't immediate, it's long-term. The sites only 'win' on one multiplier (the smallest one), on all others the sites lose. While it's likely that the sites will "win" every day, it's not definite, especially if one skin is very low volume. Asking for the skins to escrow is WPN's way of protecting itself so that it's not on the hook for a 50k payment. I have to disagree with you for two reasons. - The only thing establishing a spin n go escrow would do is reduce variance for WPN - this would only be an issue if they were in serious financial trouble. Also, the more spin n gos that are played the lower their overall variance is - so not allowing a site would actually do the opposite of the whole reason escrow is needed (weird to think about). - Betcoin players make up well under 1% of the WPN/WTN player pool and if I had to guess, I would say the ave Betcoin player bankroll is much smaller than the ave of the entire network. The top spin n go reward $150k (usually only 100k, but 150k during $60 jackpot plo promo). So even a reasonable escrow request wouldn't be that much if they did it based on player share. I think it would make much more sense to just pay Betcoin a fee based on a cut of the House Edge (I think 5 or 6%). I also think those $60 plo jackpot sngs have got to be the easiest way to launder $500-$1k a day colluding without being detected, which is why I don't think we'll be seeing them on Betcoin ever. |
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Does anyone know of an easy was to calculate the true EV of a bonus considering the house edge and playthrough requirement?
For example, lets say we receive a BTC1 bonus to play a game with a 10% HE and 10x playthrough.
We can expect to lose BTC1 for every BTC10 wagered at this game, BTC10 is the amount we have to wager, but that doesn't make the EV of our bonus = 0
I think the calculation for the Value of the bonus looks something like this:
Starting BR = BTC1
BTC1 x .1 = .1
BTC1 - .1 =BTC0.9
Bonus Value with 1x Required = BTC.9
BTC0.9 x .1 = .09
BTC0.9 - .09 = BTC0.81
Bonus Value with 2x Required = BTC0.81
BTC0.81 x .1 = .081
BTC0.81 - 0.81 = BTC0.729
Bonus Value with 3x Required = BTC0.729
Etc.
Am I doing it wrong?
If I'm doing it right, it there an easy way to calculate Bonus Value with 100x or more?
(Variance and deposit/no deposit are not relevant.)
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Because you can't give a few word answer even tho it would be appropriate to do so. Should everyone Write a three page essay just for one topic reply, get ya heads out of your asses. I see spammers all the time and I don't care, I just don't pay that much attention to them, deal with it...
OOps you just burned your account. Go pay back your loans scumbag. Name: Tyrantt Posts: 832 Activity: 294 Position: Sr. Member Date Registered: December 14, 2015, 02:02:18 AM Last Active: Today at 06:33:29 PM Email: hidden Website: Current Status: Offline Offline Bitcoin address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdXIs this campaighn still available? I've filled out the form a few moments ago.
post count:233
btc address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840124.msg12730279#msg12730279Id like to enroll
Posts: 17
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btc address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX Signed up as Tyrantt, btc address 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX  Also, forum really seems nice, I think I might even hang out there. I'd like to join.
Ill post here too:
starting post: 353
btc address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX
I am currently holding his account as collateral. This is tx:https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/dbf878723436d3da6fba61ab43b8fe3429694551f16118086cf3884f29e4dcdb Btc amount: 0.09btc
address: 1HdK3k1LWG429jADbu9GXTszWmGGz9uVdX
interest: 40% (I can send you weekly, so that 8$ for 4-5 weeks) that would be 28$ for a total repay
Thank you very much.
Please repay to for each installment: 1xWop24MSPuYeWZ53Fo6YzJsHvMjr4EYM They will be scheduled at next 4 weeks: 9 June, 16 June, 23 June, 30 June. At fifth week, if you pay full amount of each installment ( 8$ equivalent of Bitcoin amount) at previous four weeks, I will return the account to you! Thanks! |
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3223303 is the (somewhat incorrect) number of games in total. Only roughly one in a thousand games are Nyan games, though. im not sure what nyan games means regards. -Katerniko1 regards. -Twitchyseal |
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Do check the first posts since it has listed the possible alts found.Although the thread is not updated,you might be wasting time on something which has already posted before.
I've learned this lesson about 83 times. Spend time gathering a bunch of info, and then the next search result is a post in this thread explaining everything I just found and then some. |
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I'm guessing most of these cases of tons of accounts were created by spam bots for SEO reasons. Then they got hacked and sold.
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2. A player in the past week has been stiffed of a million coin progressive jackpot win at a bitcoin site called Betcoin.ag (worth about $340,000 at the moment). He hit 5 yachts in a line on The Glam Life slot and although the excuse has changed a few times, they are now saying that the win doesn't count because he hit it during a free spins round (triggered in game, not a bonus). This is not documented in the game or its paytable anywhere and neither the casino or Betsoft has shown proof to support this claim.
This is just outright theft imo, I've found an article about this and it goes further than this. They've offered him a settlement to keep his mouth shut about the whole thing, dunno if that's accurate. https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/07/betcoin-ag-betsoft-force-shafted-jackpot-winner-into-agreementIt's very accurate. |
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2. A player in the past week has been stiffed of a million coin progressive jackpot win at a bitcoin site called Betcoin.ag (worth about $340,000 at the moment). He hit 5 yachts in a line on The Glam Life slot and although the excuse has changed a few times, they are now saying that the win doesn't count because he hit it during a free spins round (triggered in game, not a bonus). This is not documented in the game or its paytable anywhere and neither the casino or Betsoft has shown proof to support this claim.
This is just outright theft imo, I've found an article about this and it goes further than this. They've offered him a settlement to keep his mouth shut about the whole thing, dunno if that's accurate. https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/07/betcoin-ag-betsoft-force-shafted-jackpot-winner-into-agreementBetsoft turns rogue now, I won't bet any slots there, slot is a silly game makes us broke soon. It was actually worth over $600k USD |
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In my opinion if they will think about shutting down their website, they will not pay 102 Bitcoins to chelashin..
I think that for someone who provide couple of gambling services from years, collect Bitcoins just to show you that they have them (even if they don't have them) will be no problem. So i'm not sure if it is proof of their instability.. it shows that they have not insufficient time to answer here on Bitcointalk.
Players always have a choice. Every day at the market shows up more and more games.
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and for the negative feedback for pocketdice i think it should be edited +/- removed
Yes, it is! Let see if all "red trust" comments, from DT members, have been given because they have seen this topic ( i hope they watch our conversation and will remove tags). Or someone inform all of them about delays.. I think that someone want to make bad advertisement for Pocketdice.io and inform DT members about delays.. They tag "red trust", but no one care to inform them about that problem is solved long time ago.. For me it is manipulation, but anyway it is interesting situation.. It took them over a month to come up with 102 btc. They told several lies during that month. The fact that they finally paid the player does not make everything ok. They are available on the forums when there are no issues but suspiciously quiet now... Players should know that. Nobody want to hide any information. Not even one post was deleted. Issue have been solved, scam accusation should be closed. Where is problem? Because someone is quiet? As very long time i think that you do very good job, this last argument make very big shadow for that opinion.. only in my eyes of course. I will be always supporting alerting users, but in this situation, you probably are overreacting a bit, buddy.. It took them over a month to come up with 102 btc. They told several lies during that month. The fact that they finally paid the player does not make everything ok. |
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In my opinion if they will think about shutting down their website, they will not pay 102 Bitcoins to chelashin..
I think that for someone who provide couple of gambling services from years, collect Bitcoins just to show you that they have them (even if they don't have them) will be no problem. So i'm not sure if it is proof of their instability.. it shows that they have not insufficient time to answer here on Bitcointalk.
Players always have a choice. Every day at the market shows up more and more games.
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and for the negative feedback for pocketdice i think it should be edited +/- removed
Yes, it is! Let see if all "red trust" comments, from DT members, have been given because they have seen this topic ( i hope they watch our conversation and will remove tags). Or someone inform all of them about delays.. I think that someone want to make bad advertisement for Pocketdice.io and inform DT members about delays.. They tag "red trust", but no one care to inform them about that problem is solved long time ago.. For me it is manipulation, but anyway it is interesting situation.. It took them over a month to come up with 102 btc. They told several lies during that month. The fact that they finally paid the player does not make everything ok. They are available on the forums when there are no issues but suspiciously quiet now... Players should know that. |
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zzaza The name of the thread is ( Re: Account farming. Allowed? ) after all...  Given Danny's posts you are quoting from are in sequence, did you use https://www.random.org/lists/ to mix them up a bit? If you had a signature, I would have asked you "what's the point of your list?" I don't believe your post is on topic. Randomising the list of 2,721 UID's used 84,351 bits of randomness - well below their free daily usage of 1,000,000 bits of randomness. Your IP address: 123.456.789.012
Current allowance: 915,649 bits
Buy once-off top-up worth: 0 bits for
(approx. €0)
Next free top-up: 84,351 bits
Time till next free top-up: 00:38:14 Oh - and in answer to your post, is not on Danny Hamilton's list, not even in the "I have removed these users from the list" list. I'm lost. What's happening here? |
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users connected: s1ng, BAGOBO, and lili song. proof: address 1g1pHij1viyJVEnExwoiiNAGDYY5QWnXj was used here, here, and here. Edit: s1ng has this address on their profile: 1Mbo7t7cB45qprrD6yYUktNpiiFWGmSs9T, which is used here@Timelord: Yea I'm on a portable device. has the address 1EYzkw5ZzTmigPY764njrL6bwG9boTUdZx as used here and here. Part two Edit 2: michietn94 is connectd to these guys: address 1Ns78F3XbkVinj1MYFkbKmrSw3g7nXMgtC was used here and here(not sure what was the point of that address but oh well). Misc: s1ng cheated a twitter campaign once. 1EYzkw5ZzTmigPY764njrL6bwG9boTUdZx: btc-facebookBAGOBO
1Ns78F3XbkVinj1MYFkbKmrSw3g7nXMgtC: BAGOBOmichietn941EYzkw5ZzTmigPY764njrL6bwG9boTUdZx is part of wallet [364aea2884] Wallet [364aea2884] has 5 other addresses in it. I only checked the first, I'm sure the rest are all alts though. 1CUiSECJL152 seXbUgzrZci896iW89mPVy <---Legendary User izanagi narukami 334527 1Mbo7t7cB45qprrD6yYUktNpiiFWGmSs9T 14zJT6hmC8tZfRuGL8g24i5bdC1SDEVSAL 1Mf5SS1dcMuo5PVErpGNVN6HxBc2cLtL9S 1ADkVLYudLxpSLgfm7oFETKyyE3C9f4Gsv (gotta run) |
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Hello. Sorry for the silence. We are working on speed and also fixing some issues about transactions. We will be back asap.
And also want to add a comment about Chelashin's case. The player got his money and also his next withdrawals. And current situation is not connected with him.
Its good that you paid that player and all his withdraws however judging by what is happened lately with this site. Many are worried that you guys might be in debt and they are concerned about their Bitcoins. It is not that Pocket Dice is one of 2 dice sites in the whole world or something. People have a choice here. Staying and playing on Pocket Dice despite it is publicly known that site has problems is people's choice and in case something will go horrible wrong I feel players are in no position to complain. If nobody complains then how would it become publicly known? Why it have to be publicly known? From what i read and check this case, user get his winnings and there is no more complains about that.. am i right? (Or i miss something?) Why you are trying to drill this case so much? Maybe this user (cheleshin) don't want show his address..? It seems like they don't have enough money to run their site. If that's the case, then it's a ponzi scheme. If it's not, they can easily prove that they aren't. |
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