Account farming. Allowed?

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 14, 2016, 06:32:02 PM

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Sept 16, 2015
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555318 jak3 (434) sep 16, oct 2, 23x4, nov 23 dec 14 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555321 jak4 (14) sep 16, oct 2, 23, nov 23 dec 18 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555326 data1 (68) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 18 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555330 raj1 (34) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555332 krishna1 (431) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 14 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555335 boby-1 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 15 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555336 boby-2 (9) sep oct 2, 24x2 nov 23 dec 15 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555346 boby-3 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24x2 nov 23 dec 15 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555348 rik1 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24x2 nov 23 dec 16 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555351 rik2 (12) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23 dec 16 jan 10,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555353 rik3 (63) sep 16, oct 2, 24, nov 23,

Seems the farmer does use the same names, just changing 1,2,3!

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 14, 2016, 07:43:31 PM

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on September 02, 2016, 01:55:50 PM

I decided to remove all users with 9 posts or less or with most recent activity May 30, 2016 or earlier.
In other words, I'm only going to be looking at Users with 10+ posts who have logged on at least once since June.
That leaves us with 356 of the original 23,932 users responsible for 53,358 of the total 65,278 posts.

Total accounts created by date:

Ok, now we can look back at this chart from Twitchyseal, comparing it to my listed farmed accounts.

11/8 i have listed 22 farmed accounts
11/9 i have listed 13 farmed accounts
11/10 i have listed 11 farmed accounts
11/11 i have listed 0 farmed accounts
11/12 i have listed 6 farmed accounts
11/13 i have listed 7 farmed accounts
11/14 i have listed 4 farmed accounts
11/15 i have listed 0 farmed accounts
11/16 i have listed 6 farmed accounts
11/17 i have listed 8 farmed accounts
11/18 i have listed 0 farmed accounts
11/19 i have listed 8 farmed accounts
11/20 i have listed 4 farmed accounts
11/21 i have listed 0 farmed accounts
11/22 i have listed 16 farmed accounts
11/23 i have listed 37 farmed accounts
total......................142 farmed accounts

Twitchyseal's chart shows 350 accounts registered and still active in the last 3 months
I have shown 142 of those to be farmed.
So, 40% of those accounts are farmed.

bear in mind - I have not found all famed accounts.
On 4 days i did not find any farmed accounts. The chart shows 5, 3, 21 and 12 registered on those days.
The farmer clearly did not work on the first two 0 days, probably i have not found him yet from the third 0 day, Could be either way on forth 0 day

How clear is this, the farmer takes 2 days off, only 8 real people joined bct and are, or were still active here in the last 3 months

It gets worse i think.
In the next 8 days after this chart, 11/24/2015 - 12/1/2015, i have listed exactly another 142 farmed accounts.
That is a period of half the time of this graph of 16 days!

I do not have the total still active number from this period, but if it is the same daily average of real members, then farmed accounts make up 60% of new active users.

Us few real accounts are outnumbered. It is not something that can be ignored.
Theymos and his crew do nothing though.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 14, 2016, 08:09:52 PM

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Quote from: AGD on October 13, 2016, 07:52:46 AM

These ignore lists include most accounts with a paid signature (and also maybe some false positives, sorry guys)

Unfortunately much more than half of the list are false positives, so you can't really use it. It's like ignoring a great quantity of random users.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 14, 2016, 11:56:36 PM

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Quote from: rizzlarolla on October 14, 2016, 05:12:16 PM

Latest summary of listed farmed account profiles. Updated Oct 14. (some time periods/spam counts are now outdated/yet to be edited)
378 farmed accounts.

Nov 8. 11.50am
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639442 zend7 (479)

I thought BitcoinSupremo was just saying they'd bought zend7, however, it may really have been bought (doesn't change the fact it's now their Alt Roll Eyes

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Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on September 07, 2016, 07:43:15 PM

Why not be honest, I have the accounts smho_16, zend7 and Cereberus. Yes I bought them to enter in signature campaigns as I am not spamming in anyway in those signatures but posting only constructive posts in all of them.

I believe in honesty and buying of accounts is allowed to enter signatures. If I lose the accounts that's no problem as I already got more than what I paid for from all the signatures. Nevertheless I offer them a wonderful promotion and I hope to be part of them now that I didn't invent a like like I sold the wallet.

I could have denied again and bought other accounts and will not have done again the same mistake to put addresses from the same wallets but would have used multibit classic as it shows as single wallet.

I want to clear though that I am in no way connected to any scammer and morocco.man and 10to1270 are in no way my accounts, didn't scam anyone here and don't plan to.

I hope the managers of the campaigns will understand. I can fully understand if they want to kick me just for having an alt account enrolled in their signatures.

I think owning accounts is not a crime, so that is my explanation to that transaction id.

I want now to thank Timelord67 for his effort of uncovering the buying of accounts which I repeat is not a crime but I also thank him as now I know not to use one single wallet like electrum for all of my transactions.

You can add my alt accounts in the hall of fame of this thread.

Negatives are not welcome as I didn't scam or spam the forum. My posts are lets say constructive to 70-80% of the time.

But accusing me of being morocco.man or 10to1270 which I don't even know who they are this is totally unacceptable.

I hope honestly would be appreciated although at a very late and crucial point.

Perhaps if we could work out where BitcoinSupremo bought it from, that might give us a who is doing all of this.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 15, 2016, 10:01:50 AM
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*edit* post moved to the Spambots thread - will remove this post in a few days time.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 15, 2016, 10:04:43 AM

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This account is online right now:

But his last post was on: May 31, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 15, 2016, 07:48:10 PM

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Just trying to catch up ,

Apr 13, 2015.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505529 Greenenergy (242) may 11, 26, jun 4, 17, jul 4, 21, aug 18,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505530 Windpower (461) may 12, 26, jun 4, jul 4, 21, aug 18,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505533 Maskedman (133) may 13, 26, jun 4x2 jul 5, 21, aug 18,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=505534 Honestman (13) may 13, 26, jun 5x2 jul 21, aug 18,

Nov 3, 2015.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630500 Sandroxa (555) nov 3, 13x5, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630501 DuckKeeper (572) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630509 BombayChicken (265) nov 3, 12x5, 30, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630510 ElpadroBitcoin (471) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x5, 18, 23, jan 7, 20,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630521 JeanMcCoy (364) nov 3, 12x7, dec 4x4, 18, 23, jan 7, 20,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630528 JohnyWalkerUK (77) nov 3, 12x5, 30, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630531 Chrismeister (425) nov 3, 12x4, dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=630534 DavidoAlto (379) nov 3, 12x4, 30 dec 11, 23, jan 8, 21,

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 16, 2016, 09:11:11 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2016, 09:58:53 PM by rizzlarolla

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Some new accounts here,

Apr 28, 2016.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833636 hope4ever (19) jun 6,20    jul 4 aug 2,16,16,30    sep 27,    oct 10, today x 10
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833637 classic bit (19)    jun 6,20    jul 4,19 aug 2,16, 30 sep 27,    oct 10, today x 10
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=833642 bit future (8 ) jun 6,20    jul 19 aug 2,16, 30 sep 27,    oct 10, ..waiting...

I am just waiting for 10 posts to be made on "bit future" account. I'm guessing next 24 hours. Hope he doesn't see this first!

It was this post by hope4ever that drew my attention,

Quote from: hope4ever on October 16, 2016, 08:34:48 PM

signature campaign is really a good way of making bitcoin but it depend on the policy of the signature campaign and your rank that how much can you receive for your posting, if your rank is high the you will really get a good amount of bitcoin from signature campaign.

Completely off topic irrelevant, pointless, barely legible drivel - like all posts from all three of these farmed accounts!
Even if mods are not targeting multi accounts directly, i would like to know how this is not zero quality spam.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 16, 2016, 11:23:00 PM

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When I used to cheat in online games using multiple accounts, I used Multi-fox, and lots of VPNs. It's pretty easy nowadays to be running multiple sessions of different accounts in different tabs, this can be good/bad (Good for online game cheating, bad because it can be used to spam)

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 17, 2016, 11:41:27 AM
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Quote from: rizzlarolla on September 26, 2016, 07:56:44 PM

Nov 2 2015. 4.00pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628711 LarryHocks (517) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, 24 x 2, dec 14x 4, 21 x 11, 23
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628722 Lokfar (536) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 4 x 4, 14x 3, 23
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628725 NewInCryptoCurrency (281) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 4, 14x 4, 23
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628729 Icathia (423) nov 2, 10 x 7, 18 x 5, dec 1 x 3, 18, 23
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628731 RobinHoodster (428) nov 2, 10 x 3, 18 x 5, dec 4 x 4, 18, 23
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628735 Altcoinmoney (283) nov 2, 10 x 3, 19 x 6 dec 4 x 4, 14 x 4, 23

(e.g, 10 x 7 = 7 posts on 10th day of listed month)

They have a shed-load of other obvious similarities in their posts, writing style and date of changes in writing style. (dec 14 here)

6 farmed accounts, all in sig campaign, so merrily spamming away for bitcoin, untroubled by mods or admin, 2400 spam posts.

Here are another 6 accounts created 3 hours earlier the same day, by the same farmer. 6 accounts created and first posted in 15 minutes.

Nov 2 2015, 12.50pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628348 bitcoinhopper (576) nov 2, 7x15, 19 dec 1x4, 2x9, 14x4, 23
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628359 Altcoinsupporter (596) nov 2, 9x7, 16x5, dec 1x3, 14x4, 23
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628362 FabioDelcatto (486) nov 2, 9x7, 16x5, dec 7x2, 14x4, 23,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628366 BitsandBites (675) nov 2, 9x7, 17x5, 24x6, dec 14x4, 21x6, 23,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628367 GermanFoobla (528) nov 2, 8x26, 19, 24x2, dec 14x4, 23,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628372 NordicRanger (390) nov 2, 9x7, 20, dec 1x4, 14x4, 23,

All 6 accounts went on to post next on jan 7, and on jan 20. (except GermanFoobla missed jan 7, only posted jan 20)
All 6 accounts listed in my quote went on to post next jan 7 and jan 20 as their next 2 posts. (except Altcoinmoney missed jan 7, posted jan 15, 20)
Same general change in writing style as mentioned in quote.

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Sept 27 2015 4.15pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605296 Ulloa (593) ........dec 23, jan 7, 20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605302 Skaven (228) ........dec 23, jan 15, 20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605307 Piltover (682) ........dec 23, jan 7, 20

I've left out the first few posts, but as you can see they also post dec 23, going on to post next jan 7 and 20. (except Skaven, jan 15 and 20, just like Altcoinmoney above)

In amongst this list of 3 (between Skaven and Piltover) Cuidler registered - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605305
He wears a sig but is not farmed. Different posting dates, decent quality post.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 17, 2016, 03:14:34 PM
Last edit: October 17, 2016, 06:34:25 PM by rizzlarolla

#192

Ok, a new alphabet list. Accounts created Jan 10 2016.
(leading from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20333.340 )

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721299 Enternity (21) jan 10, 16, 29, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31, apr
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721369 Facinat (20) jan 10, 17, 30, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721379 Gataway (20) jan 18, 31, feb 10, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721390 Hamliss (20) jan 10, 16, 29, feb 11, 23, mar 6, 31 apr 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721405 Iranus (22) jan 10, 17, 30, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31, apr 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721427 Jasmint (20) jan 10, 18, 31, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721443 Kenid (47) jan 10, 16, 29, feb 10, 23, mar 31, apr 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721458 Lintel (21) jan 10, 17, 30, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721487 Mastker (23) jan 10, 18, 31, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31, apr 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721522 Natweast (20) jan 10, 16, 30, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721555 Oilacris (132) jan 10, 17, 31, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31 apr 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721581 Pasnik (20) jan 10, 29, feb 11, 24, mar 8, apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721605 Qinetik (20) jan 10, 17, 31, feb 11, 24, mar 7, apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=721609 Reatim (20) jan 10, 29, feb 10, 23, mar 6, 31 apr 21,

The farmer spent 5 and half hours creating these, but they stick out like a sore thumb.

In that 5 and half hour,
310 accounts were created in total.
14 are active farmed accounts, (above)
9 are active real accounts, (active within 3 months)
14 are inactive real accounts (not posted in 3 months)
273 are zero post dormant accounts.

The 9 active real accounts post counts are 3, 9, 21, 1, 1, 3, 106, 2, 2. As you can see, they don't post much.
The 14 real but inactive post counts 1, 12, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 24, 3, 18, 30, 2, 1, 1. They didn't last long.

Probably driven away by the farmed account spammers drivel.
As we can see, 14 farmed accounts verses 9 real (just about) active accounts.

The farmer never quits. All these accounts are ranked up ready to start serious sig spamming, as Oilacris account has.

Added first post history's, they will link in with my next post.
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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 18, 2016, 10:22:15 PM

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Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen

He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts.

Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account?

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October 18, 2016, 10:43:08 PM

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Quote from: cpfreeplz on October 18, 2016, 10:22:15 PM

There's seven pages of posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=299272;sa=showPosts how do you figure they were deleted?

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 18, 2016, 10:45:57 PM

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 18, 2016, 10:43:08 PM

Quote from: cpfreeplz on October 18, 2016, 10:22:15 PM

There's seven pages of posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=299272;sa=showPosts how do you figure they were deleted?

Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then? Huh

Am I missing something here?

Can you post a screenshot? This is bizarre. I only see the one post. Checked on statistics too and it shows the 1 post but gives the old statistics of when the previous posts were from.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 19, 2016, 12:44:43 AM

#196

Quote from: cpfreeplz on October 18, 2016, 10:45:57 PM

Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then? Huh

The archive works (shows the actual amount of posts). Try refreshing a few times or switching browsers, as I've had glitches where I clicked on a thread/view users posts and no posts or only the first (top) post shows. Weird glitch.

taking a break - expect delayed responses

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 19, 2016, 01:01:45 AM

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on October 19, 2016, 12:44:43 AM

Quote from: cpfreeplz on October 18, 2016, 10:45:57 PM

Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then? Huh

I still only see the one post! Idk.

Ohhhh, the rest are in chinese! Maybe I have the board that they post on blocked so I can't see their posts? Does that happen?? That would make sense I guess.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 19, 2016, 01:03:09 AM

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Quote from: cpfreeplz on October 18, 2016, 10:22:15 PM

There have been users selling multiple forum accounts openly, when it was more profitable.
I didn't see the admins taking action against them then and I don't see that happening now.
Only if one of those accounts were spamming would action be taken upon them.

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 20, 2016, 05:55:03 PM
Last edit: October 20, 2016, 08:25:48 PM by Milkduds

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I came across a few curious accounts that follow the same formula of copy&pasting a story with a link but never coming back to the thread they started or getting involved in a discussion. Have started to make a habit of checking post history of lower accounts and now I have come across 3 in the last 24 hours that do this.
Now would this be considering farming?
One of these accounts started out posting but it was obvious they had very poor English and reverted to this formula after not even 5 posts.

Examples:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=906856
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202096
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=883987

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Re: Account farming. Allowed?

October 20, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
Last edit: October 20, 2016, 11:58:28 PM by rizzlarolla

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Quote from: Milkduds on October 20, 2016, 05:55:03 PM

I think a farmed account must be shown to belong to a group of accounts with 1 owner, as I have shown with my "alphabet" lists, and my "repeat" lists. (many of my lists also connect together showing 1 farmer openly owning and shitposting 100's of accounts)
Multiple accounts created for spamming, scamming or selling.

So, although your listed accounts maybe "farming" their own accounts, until they are connected to many others, they are not "farmed accounts", imo.
As you say, these accounts post pure copy paste with link, no discussion/viewpoint, never return to thread. Spamming the discussion forum.
At least they should post in press, that is all they post, a press snippet. Shit-posting for sure.

I think it is a moderation issue. However, with all the hundreds of farmed accounts, I don't think mods can see the wood for the trees.

Added - I called Posternut out in July here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570223.msg15762562#msg15762562

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