I didn't read most of what you wrote. ^^^^ You get a chance yet? -snip-
This thread is the "Beware of TwitchySeal" thread and I'm trying to keep my response to Xiao from getting buried. Who know's, maybe he will respond? I've responded to your JasonOrt jackpot posts hereRegarding me being Cryptosmoker and replying to my own posts/Abusing my rep you haven't responded. I've denied your accusation. Please revise your factual assertions about me or explain why they should be considered factual.
I'm still failing to understand how you could think I am abusing my rep. I will continue to address each and every accusation you make against me. I am the #1 suspect for ddos attacks that don't have any effect on the site because ajunftd posted skype logs with someone impersonating me in this thread: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowMany regular players did not buy this guys story immediately. Check out the comments and see for yourself. The OP is the same guy who started this thread a couple weeks ago: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowThere was no space where there should have been in the images and a "y" missing from my name in the text transcript. betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-offered-me-money-instagram-lie-about-betcoin He later admitted in chat that betcoin paid him BTC2 (2,000 chips) to make the post (which was copy/pasted by andrew)  Xiao, will you have a reasonable conversation about this? Where you address my responses as I have addressed your points? I never mentioned this user Aftund nor do I hold what he says with validity as he's shown a lot of inconsistencies. My point is that YOU are unreasonable and irrational with the way you attack, bother, annoy, and troll. Furthermore you attack people for having connections to your enemy. You use guerrilla warfare tactics in the forums, which makes you extremely confrontational and disrespectful to those that shouldn't be your enemy.
I understand you don't approve of how I handle what I consider "serious issues" with Betcoin. However, most or all of what you've accused my with in this thread I am 100% innocent of. Furthermore, Betcoin has gone out of their way to fabricate the evidence you are using to attack me with.
I have not fabricated anything. I have been honest.
Ask me anything reasonable, I will answer it directly.
I understand you don't like when I respond to your threads, but as long as you keep spamming promos and praise for Betcoin (and don't lock the thread), I'm going to keep responding to make sure the new sign ups you're targeting or anyone else is informed.
I've already responded to you in my altcoin thread that you spammed. What I posted just shows you're a prime suspect based on the chat room. I've already talked to Betcoin about Ajundftd. They had no involvement in his accusations or the pics he's posted. He has tendencies to make rogue claims based on what I've seen. Irregardless, just because you're not the culprit of the recent DDOS doesn't mean you're not disrespectful or inconsistent with your "scam alerts". You hold vendetta's and use guerrilla tactics by attacking everyone related to your enemy. Thank you for responding. So, you don't think I am the ddos attacker, right? Just to be clear. I'd also like to point out a couple things from your chat.  1) blingbling911 knows it was not me. I assume he was asking because he doesn't think most people really I am the ddos attacker either. 2) I know who ThatsMean is on here, and I assume you do also. The guy hates me and goes off on anyone who speaks ill of betcoin. Xiao can confirm this quote is from ThatsMean which should put things in perspective: Also dooglus pulled one of the biggest scams in btc history with the justdice fiasco. So LOL at being a "top trusted member" 3) Michigan1 is a well known scammer who get paid off by betcoin regularly despite his constant scamming of other players and betcoin. He's been caught cheating and and not banned. One time he even lied to support about missing 1400 chips he won in jackpot and created a scam accusation thread on btctalk with a screen shot in play money mode. Betcoin decided to pay him 500 chips to delete his post on this forum anywayIt's obvious to anyone that ajund is simply trying to get as much as he can out of Betcoin and has no problem lying about them or anyone. I don't know for sure if they explicitly told him what to say about me. But somehow he got it in his head that trashing me would make them happy. This is the second post he's made about me with 100% fabricated chat logs that had absolutely nothing to do with: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowAfter he posted the thread, Betcoin went back and edited his post to embed the images of the fake chat log. In the comments, you can see other players pointing out that it must be fake because: A)On my real skype account (i no longer use skype) there is a space between Twitchy and Seal, but not in the screenshot. B)Typo  Betcoin was aware of all the information above and not only did they leave the forum up and paste quotes of it in chat (which you used as a reference) They also accused me of being the ddos attacker on this forum quoting the fake logs! From their sig campaign thread: (now locked so unable to quote directly) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15743071#msg15743071In response to a number of you who have asked about negative trust and still being a member of the Betcoin campaign, we have clearly learned that trust ratings are completely irrelevant here and you will not be removed from being a member of the Betcoin. To that end we will be opening this campaign up to members that have received negative trust for dubious reasons ie: negative trust given by untrustworthy members of the community. Also, for those of you that actually think TwitchySeal is trustworthy or noble enjoy the following article: Highlights stated by TwitchySeal: When talking about Betcoin "you might have to mix lies with the truth" in order to discredit Betcoin TwitchySeal: Let’s try to spam the player chat from our different accounts today TwitchySeal: Just tell players it’s a scam. Try to get 1 on 1 contact and bring them into individual chats on Skype. We’ll tell them about SWCPoker (We don't believe SWC is involved) Twitchyseal intentionally DDoSes Betcoin: TwitchySeal: Savage what’s the update on RouterSlap? (DDoS service) Savage Coin 6: It's working but we're gonna need a new alternative soon TwitchySeal: Okay make sure you pay the RouterSlap people Fortunately most of you are so much smarter than this which has enable us to continue to grow and provide a great service. Stage 9 coming soon! https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowConsdering all of the above, do you think it's possible they asked ajundftd to create the thread? This is one of many examples of why whenever I see someone promote Betcoin as a great site because they offer WPN tourneys or fast withdraws, I feel obligated to try and make sure anyone who reads it is informed of their history and reputation. I've already explained where my anger and frustration came from. I didn't read most of what you wrote. However there is another thing that I'm sure you may be aware of, which is that a manager has stated that part of the DDOS attack came from a close associate of yours. If that is true, than I'm sure you should know about it. If it's not true than please ignore. Also I'm not dumb enough or morally corrupt to spread lies about someone. BTW- ajundftd does go rogue when it comes to photo shopping. He's done it towards other users and Betcoin as well based on what I've seen.
Not cool how you keep locking this thread and acting like there are no issues.
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I didn't read most of what you wrote. ^^^^ You get a chance yet? -snip-
This thread is the "Beware of TwitchySeal" thread and I'm trying to keep my response to Xiao from getting buried. Who know's, maybe he will respond? I've responded to your JasonOrt jackpot posts hereRegarding me being Cryptosmoker and replying to my own posts/Abusing my rep you haven't responded. I've denied your accusation. Please revise your factual assertions about me or explain why they should be considered factual.
I'm still failing to understand how you could think I am abusing my rep. I will continue to address each and every accusation you make against me. I am the #1 suspect for ddos attacks that don't have any effect on the site because ajunftd posted skype logs with someone impersonating me in this thread: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowMany regular players did not buy this guys story immediately. Check out the comments and see for yourself. The OP is the same guy who started this thread a couple weeks ago: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowThere was no space where there should have been in the images and a "y" missing from my name in the text transcript. betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-offered-me-money-instagram-lie-about-betcoin He later admitted in chat that betcoin paid him BTC2 (2,000 chips) to make the post (which was copy/pasted by andrew) Xiao, will you have a reasonable conversation about this? Where you address my responses as I have addressed your points? I never mentioned this user Aftund nor do I hold what he says with validity as he's shown a lot of inconsistencies. My point is that YOU are unreasonable and irrational with the way you attack, bother, annoy, and troll. Furthermore you attack people for having connections to your enemy. You use guerrilla warfare tactics in the forums, which makes you extremely confrontational and disrespectful to those that shouldn't be your enemy.
I understand you don't approve of how I handle what I consider "serious issues" with Betcoin. However, most or all of what you've accused my with in this thread I am 100% innocent of. Furthermore, Betcoin has gone out of their way to fabricate the evidence you are using to attack me with.
I have not fabricated anything. I have been honest.
Ask me anything reasonable, I will answer it directly.
I understand you don't like when I respond to your threads, but as long as you keep spamming promos and praise for Betcoin (and don't lock the thread), I'm going to keep responding to make sure the new sign ups you're targeting or anyone else is informed.
I've already responded to you in my altcoin thread that you spammed. What I posted just shows you're a prime suspect based on the chat room. I've already talked to Betcoin about Ajundftd. They had no involvement in his accusations or the pics he's posted. He has tendencies to make rogue claims based on what I've seen. Irregardless, just because you're not the culprit of the recent DDOS doesn't mean you're not disrespectful or inconsistent with your "scam alerts". You hold vendetta's and use guerrilla tactics by attacking everyone related to your enemy. Thank you for responding. So, you don't think I am the ddos attacker, right? Just to be clear. I'd also like to point out a couple things from your chat. 1) blingbling911 knows it was not me. I assume he was asking because he doesn't think most people really I am the ddos attacker either. 2) I know who ThatsMean is on here, and I assume you do also. The guy hates me and goes off on anyone who speaks ill of betcoin. Xiao can confirm this quote is from ThatsMean which should put things in perspective: Also dooglus pulled one of the biggest scams in btc history with the justdice fiasco. So LOL at being a "top trusted member" 3) Michigan1 is a well known scammer who get paid off by betcoin regularly despite his constant scamming of other players and betcoin. He's been caught cheating and and not banned. One time he even lied to support about missing 1400 chips he won in jackpot and created a scam accusation thread on btctalk with a screen shot in play money mode. Betcoin decided to pay him 500 chips to delete his post on this forum anywayIt's obvious to anyone that ajund is simply trying to get as much as he can out of Betcoin and has no problem lying about them or anyone. I don't know for sure if they explicitly told him what to say about me. But somehow he got it in his head that trashing me would make them happy. This is the second post he's made about me with 100% fabricated chat logs that had absolutely nothing to do with: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowAfter he posted the thread, Betcoin went back and edited his post to embed the images of the fake chat log. In the comments, you can see other players pointing out that it must be fake because: A)On my real skype account (i no longer use skype) there is a space between Twitchy and Seal, but not in the screenshot. B)Typo Betcoin was aware of all the information above and not only did they leave the forum up and paste quotes of it in chat (which you used as a reference) They also accused me of being the ddos attacker on this forum quoting the fake logs! From their sig campaign thread: (now locked so unable to quote directly) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15743071#msg15743071In response to a number of you who have asked about negative trust and still being a member of the Betcoin campaign, we have clearly learned that trust ratings are completely irrelevant here and you will not be removed from being a member of the Betcoin. To that end we will be opening this campaign up to members that have received negative trust for dubious reasons ie: negative trust given by untrustworthy members of the community. Also, for those of you that actually think TwitchySeal is trustworthy or noble enjoy the following article: Highlights stated by TwitchySeal: When talking about Betcoin "you might have to mix lies with the truth" in order to discredit Betcoin TwitchySeal: Let’s try to spam the player chat from our different accounts today TwitchySeal: Just tell players it’s a scam. Try to get 1 on 1 contact and bring them into individual chats on Skype. We’ll tell them about SWCPoker (We don't believe SWC is involved) Twitchyseal intentionally DDoSes Betcoin: TwitchySeal: Savage what’s the update on RouterSlap? (DDoS service) Savage Coin 6: It's working but we're gonna need a new alternative soon TwitchySeal: Okay make sure you pay the RouterSlap people Fortunately most of you are so much smarter than this which has enable us to continue to grow and provide a great service. Stage 9 coming soon! https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowConsdering all of the above, do you think it's possible they asked ajundftd to create the thread? This is one of many examples of why whenever I see someone promote Betcoin as a great site because they offer WPN tourneys or fast withdraws, I feel obligated to try and make sure anyone who reads it is informed of their history and reputation. I've already explained where my anger and frustration came from. I didn't read most of what you wrote. However there is another thing that I'm sure you may be aware of, which is that a manager has stated that part of the DDOS attack came from a close associate of yours. If that is true, than I'm sure you should know about it. If it's not true than please ignore. Also I'm not dumb enough or morally corrupt to spread lies about someone. BTW- ajundftd does go rogue when it comes to photo shopping. He's done it towards other users and Betcoin as well based on what I've seen.
Not cool how you keep locking this thread and acting like there are no issues.
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I didn't read most of what you wrote. ^^^^ You get a chance yet? -snip-
This thread is the "Beware of TwitchySeal" thread and I'm trying to keep my response to Xiao from getting buried. Who know's, maybe he will respond? I've responded to your JasonOrt jackpot posts hereRegarding me being Cryptosmoker and replying to my own posts/Abusing my rep you haven't responded. I've denied your accusation. Please revise your factual assertions about me or explain why they should be considered factual.
I'm still failing to understand how you could think I am abusing my rep. I will continue to address each and every accusation you make against me. I am the #1 suspect for ddos attacks that don't have any effect on the site because ajunftd posted skype logs with someone impersonating me in this thread: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowMany regular players did not buy this guys story immediately. Check out the comments and see for yourself. The OP is the same guy who started this thread a couple weeks ago: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowThere was no space where there should have been in the images and a "y" missing from my name in the text transcript. betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-offered-me-money-instagram-lie-about-betcoin He later admitted in chat that betcoin paid him BTC2 (2,000 chips) to make the post (which was copy/pasted by andrew) Xiao, will you have a reasonable conversation about this? Where you address my responses as I have addressed your points? I never mentioned this user Aftund nor do I hold what he says with validity as he's shown a lot of inconsistencies. My point is that YOU are unreasonable and irrational with the way you attack, bother, annoy, and troll. Furthermore you attack people for having connections to your enemy. You use guerrilla warfare tactics in the forums, which makes you extremely confrontational and disrespectful to those that shouldn't be your enemy.
I understand you don't approve of how I handle what I consider "serious issues" with Betcoin. However, most or all of what you've accused my with in this thread I am 100% innocent of. Furthermore, Betcoin has gone out of their way to fabricate the evidence you are using to attack me with.
I have not fabricated anything. I have been honest.
Ask me anything reasonable, I will answer it directly.
I understand you don't like when I respond to your threads, but as long as you keep spamming promos and praise for Betcoin (and don't lock the thread), I'm going to keep responding to make sure the new sign ups you're targeting or anyone else is informed.
I've already responded to you in my altcoin thread that you spammed. What I posted just shows you're a prime suspect based on the chat room. I've already talked to Betcoin about Ajundftd. They had no involvement in his accusations or the pics he's posted. He has tendencies to make rogue claims based on what I've seen. Irregardless, just because you're not the culprit of the recent DDOS doesn't mean you're not disrespectful or inconsistent with your "scam alerts". You hold vendetta's and use guerrilla tactics by attacking everyone related to your enemy. Thank you for responding. So, you don't think I am the ddos attacker, right? Just to be clear. I'd also like to point out a couple things from your chat. 1) blingbling911 knows it was not me. I assume he was asking because he doesn't think most people really I am the ddos attacker either. 2) I know who ThatsMean is on here, and I assume you do also. The guy hates me and goes off on anyone who speaks ill of betcoin. Xiao can confirm this quote is from ThatsMean which should put things in perspective: Also dooglus pulled one of the biggest scams in btc history with the justdice fiasco. So LOL at being a "top trusted member" 3) Michigan1 is a well known scammer who get paid off by betcoin regularly despite his constant scamming of other players and betcoin. He's been caught cheating and and not banned. One time he even lied to support about missing 1400 chips he won in jackpot and created a scam accusation thread on btctalk with a screen shot in play money mode. Betcoin decided to pay him 500 chips to delete his post on this forum anywayIt's obvious to anyone that ajund is simply trying to get as much as he can out of Betcoin and has no problem lying about them or anyone. I don't know for sure if they explicitly told him what to say about me. But somehow he got it in his head that trashing me would make them happy. This is the second post he's made about me with 100% fabricated chat logs that had absolutely nothing to do with: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowAfter he posted the thread, Betcoin went back and edited his post to embed the images of the fake chat log. In the comments, you can see other players pointing out that it must be fake because: A)On my real skype account (i no longer use skype) there is a space between Twitchy and Seal, but not in the screenshot. B)Typo Betcoin was aware of all the information above and not only did they leave the forum up and paste quotes of it in chat (which you used as a reference) They also accused me of being the ddos attacker on this forum quoting the fake logs! From their sig campaign thread: (now locked so unable to quote directly) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15743071#msg15743071In response to a number of you who have asked about negative trust and still being a member of the Betcoin campaign, we have clearly learned that trust ratings are completely irrelevant here and you will not be removed from being a member of the Betcoin. To that end we will be opening this campaign up to members that have received negative trust for dubious reasons ie: negative trust given by untrustworthy members of the community. Also, for those of you that actually think TwitchySeal is trustworthy or noble enjoy the following article: Highlights stated by TwitchySeal: When talking about Betcoin "you might have to mix lies with the truth" in order to discredit Betcoin TwitchySeal: Let’s try to spam the player chat from our different accounts today TwitchySeal: Just tell players it’s a scam. Try to get 1 on 1 contact and bring them into individual chats on Skype. We’ll tell them about SWCPoker (We don't believe SWC is involved) Twitchyseal intentionally DDoSes Betcoin: TwitchySeal: Savage what’s the update on RouterSlap? (DDoS service) Savage Coin 6: It's working but we're gonna need a new alternative soon TwitchySeal: Okay make sure you pay the RouterSlap people Fortunately most of you are so much smarter than this which has enable us to continue to grow and provide a great service. Stage 9 coming soon! https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-belowConsdering all of the above, do you think it's possible they asked ajundftd to create the thread? This is one of many examples of why whenever I see someone promote Betcoin as a great site because they offer WPN tourneys or fast withdraws, I feel obligated to try and make sure anyone who reads it is informed of their history and reputation. I've already explained where my anger and frustration came from. I didn't read most of what you wrote. However there is another thing that I'm sure you may be aware of, which is that a manager has stated that part of the DDOS attack came from a close associate of yours. If that is true, than I'm sure you should know about it. If it's not true than please ignore. Also I'm not dumb enough or morally corrupt to spread lies about someone. BTW- ajundftd does go rogue when it comes to photo shopping. He's done it towards other users and Betcoin as well based on what I've seen. |
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From when you placed the bets to bet cancellation, how much time went by?
Is this ajundftd?
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We can get back to my other questions later. Hi Twitchy,
If the Progressive Jackpot is won in Bitcoin, it resets in Bitcoin in all casinos.
Are you sure about that? Because the jackpots aren't linked. They're all different sizes and funded by their own individual players. Take Greedy Goblins for instance. You offer 5 denominations with the biggest .20 mBtc Other sites offer 6 denoms all the way up to 1 mBtc None of the jackpots are the same size. So can you please explain when each of the 5 Betchain Greedy Goblins hits, which jackpots would be affected? (Obviously there are tons of sites out there, do you have a list?)  |
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Wrong cjmoles. BetcoinPoker.com has two types of tournaments: 1. Betcoin only tournaments which are in mbtc <---I was OHYEAH in these tournaments2. Shared tournaments with the WPN which are in USD <---I was twitchyseal in these tournaments.This is no secret that my screen name was OHYEAH and also twitchyseal. Here's an example of another player with one user name for Betcoin only tournaments/cash games and a completely different one for WPN tournaments: Watch Betcoin Poker's isnortbooze Win 8.1 BTC in the 25 BTC GTD in his Betcoin Gear!Betcoin Poker's isnortbooze / smssm (WPN table name) continues his impressive in the money finishes winning 8.1 BTC in the 25 BTC GTD and has provided the full stream of the final table!
This players Betcoin user name is "isnortbooze" When he plays Betcoin only tournaments or betcoin only cash games (like the daily coin or 1m BTC/2m BTC NLHE) he appears as "isnortbooze" However, when he plays WPN tournaments on Betcoin, his appears as "smssm" (that's why they call is his "WPN table name") His betcoin username is isnortbooze His WPN table name is smssm My Betcoin Username is OHYEAH My WPN table name is twitchyseal Why doesn't anybody else have that option? Why do I have the same table name in both sets of tournaments? You can see in the screenshots of our games that I am cjmToo in both venues while you have a different name in each tournament. The option to choose isn't even available in my client....I sign in under my user name cjmoles and my table name, cjmToo, applies itself to both sets of tournaments automatically....there is no option to choose between them. How do you do it? I don't know why your account is set up the way it is, but I do know I'm not the only one with separate Betcoin and WPN table names. Why don't you open a ticket? https://www.betcoin.ag/why-do-i-have-two-different-screen-namesscreenshot of player with seperate Betcoin Only and WPN TableNames http://www.betcoin.ag/files/betcoin/images/Untitled_0.jpg |
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You're right, there were threats. I just meant the subject isn't a threat and, in my opinion not even that big of a deal compared to blatant lies. OgNasty bitched and moaned?  (Guess i missed that part) ? Or are you saying that because you have a grudge against him ? It's hard not to have a grudge against someone who goes out of their way to treat you like shit and spread lies as if they were confirmed facts - and then simply ignore all attempts to defend myself. Even with grudge and all...pretty sure he's bitching and moaning here though. (and also completely wrong) <Slck><ognasty> I'm tired of the harassment.
<Slck><ognasty> Every day a new alt... I'm done with it.
<Slck><ognasty> All because he's mad I'm getting paid for my signature...
<Slck><ognasty> No amount of harassment will change it, yet he won't stop.
<Slck><ognasty> I'm not going to put up with another two weeks of this.
<Anduck>shutdown the computer = no more harassing
<Slck><ognasty> Shutting down the computer doesn't stop them from making threads and leaving BS trust posts.
<Anduck>WoT is there for a reason
<Slck><ognasty> WoT is useless...
<Anduck>so your WoT/account is worth more than lutpin life?
<Anduck>good to know
<Slck><ognasty> Same bullshit alt games there too.... Mircea Popescu has like 25 different WoT alts.... lol
<Anduck>name them
<Slck><ognasty> No, I think people who harass others should kill themselves.
<Slck><ognasty> Lutpin is being a piece of shit for some reason...
<Slck><ognasty> If someone was harassing you repeatedly, I wouldn't stick up for them...
<Slck><miffman> Og, you can obviously say whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. Do keep in mind that this is a public forum though. Anything that gets said here is pretty much here forever.
<Slck><ognasty> Dude is out of line. You can try and blame the victim all you want. I'm not going to silence myself merely because other people hide their comments behind alt accounts.
<Slck><ognasty> This is me saying I don't need an alt account to voice my opinion, and these people like Lutpin who anonymously attack people to try and get their way are the scum of the internet.
<Slck><ognasty> Not to mention they have no balls.
<Anduck>or maybe you're currently harassing lutpin publicly while some anonymous, as you said, is harassing you
<Slck><ognasty> or maybe I actually know what I'm talking about...
<hybridsole>guys, this isn't #bitcointalk-drama
<Slck><ognasty> I know it's always easier to assume people are stupid, but that is not the case here...
<hybridsole>please take your signature campaign stuff out of here
<Anduck>still you claim this anonymous = lutpin. are you sure of this Og?
<Anduck>*sure*
<Slck><ognasty> This is about me being harassed by a member of this chat. Has nothing to do with my signature. My signature is my own business.
<Slck><ognasty> I thought this was a community of intelligent individuals who wouldn't stand for this type of behavior, but obviously I was wrong.
<hybridsole>OGnasty, while that may be the case, I don't see anyone being harassed except for Lutpin right now. And don't confuse that with me having a dog in this fight, I don't
<Slck><ognasty> Encourage extortion and stick up for people who harass others. I'm sure that will lead to a better online community.
<Anduck>ognasty: what i've seen here is a death will against a community member here, and this community member is not you
<hybridsole>But telling someone to kill themselves isn't going to win you any sympathy points with me.
<Slck><ognasty> That's because while I'm being harassed privately, I'm responding publicy, because I do not need to hide.
<Anduck>there's simply no evidence of that lutpin is harrassing you, or is there?
<Slck><ognasty> Yes.
<Anduck>this is not about our intelligence or anything like that.
<Slck><ognasty> I have proof.
<Anduck>ok, prove it then?
<Anduck>why didn't you prove it earlier!
<Anduck>no need for guessing games when you can simply prove it.
<Slck><ognasty> I don't need to prove it to you. I need to prove it to those wielding a ban hammer. They're looking into my submission.
<Anduck>i am wielding a ban hammer here!
<Slck><minifrij> Anduck has control of this channel IIRC, he can ban people here
<Anduck>but, as you said Ognasty you don't need to prove me anything.
<Slck><ognasty> Indeed.
<Slck><ognasty> My reputation speaks for itself. Lutpin's of him.
<hybridsole>proof or not, it's off-topic here. Maybe if someone scammed you for a Casascius coin, you can drag it out here. But the fact that the person you are beefing with is in this channel doesn't make it "on topic"
<Slck><ognasty> I'm voicing that I'm being harassed. If you all want to look the other way, that is fine.
<Anduck>it's just a bit weird you ask for our help to remove Lutpin and simultaneously refuse to help with this
<Slck><ognasty> You're right. His reputation is worthless and banning him from here or btctalk won't stop the harassment, as he's using TOR.
<Slck><ognasty> Best case scenario he's out a few satoshi's for a new account and has to wait before joining a new signature campaign.
<Anduck>but, why don't you want everyone to "know the truth"?
<Slck><ognasty> I guess I just expected that after 5 years of doing nothing but going out of my way to help nearly every active trader on bitcointalk, people can blame me as I'm being harassed repeatedly.
<Anduck>look, i'd be happy to help but so far you've refused all my attempts.
<Slck><ognasty> The truth is I'm being harassed as a result of Lutpin's displeasure at my signature advertiser. You can believe, or not. It makes no difference to me other than having to defend myself to you also.
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You didn't even read the thread, did you ? -snip-
More or less accurate. This thread is just plain dumb, can't believe some people even consider the "threat" real. didn't even read the thread, did you? There was no "threat". The thread was started because of OgNasty's temper tantrum. First he chose to advertise for Betcoin.ag in exchange for "several hundred dollars" worth of BTCShortly after, both Lutpin and I sent him pms trying to pursuade him to change his mind. I haven't read Lutpins, but I was pretty damn diplomaticNot long after, GamesProtect left OgNasty negative feedback. At the time, this was the only negative feedback anywhere on OgNastys profile. OgNasty contacted GamesProtect and did everything he could to get the loan negative feedback removed (without removing his signature)
The following are pms FROM: OgNasty TO: GamesProtect Source: this postI'm going to paint your other account red with negative feedback if you don't remove this. Thought I'd give you the chance to do the right thing first.
Here's the negative feedback I'll be returning to you tomorrow if you do not remove the unwarranted negative feedback immediately. I will be more harsh to alt accounts I discover linked to this account, as well as alerting the scam patrol and moderator staff to do the same. Please do the right thing and save us both the time and negative energy. Leaving negative feedback because of who purchased my advertising? Clearly this unstable individual and his service should be avoided. I'm not going to dignify you with any further discussion. Tomorrow I will leave you negative feedback if you do not do the right thing. If you send me any other message besides apologize for leaving me negative trust because I fulfilled the promise of my signature auction then I will set your account to ignore. I'm not going to play games with you.. Good luck. Seek help for your gambling addiction. Nobody is to blame for your current situation but yourself.
You do realize that is the forum's policy, right?
If you were to remove your negative trust, I can put in a policy that companies with negative trust can no longer bid on my signature advertising slot. This would mean I would no longer be advertising for betcoin.ag (or similar untrusted organizations) at the end of this month.
That is the best I can do without breaking the contract I have in place, and is a final attempt at compromise to end this feud with you.
After OgNasty realized his threats didn't work on GamesProtect, he decided to flip a shit on Lutpin and Myself. He bitched and moaned and spread lies in attempt to make himself out to be the victim. Like a spoiled 12 year old. One of the things he said, mid-tantrum, was "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself." Since then, he's apologized for saying "@Lutpin: Really should kill himself." and stopped advertising for the scummy website. Unfortunately he is too stubborn to admit any other wrong doing, and continues to spread lies about myself, Lutpin and GamesProtect. |
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What is your relationship to btc-casino.io?
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Wrong cjmoles. BetcoinPoker.com has two types of tournaments: 1. Betcoin only tournaments which are in mbtc <---I was OHYEAH in these tournaments2. Shared tournaments with the WPN which are in USD <---I was twitchyseal in these tournaments.This is no secret that my screen name was OHYEAH and also twitchyseal. Here's an example of another player with one user name for Betcoin only tournaments/cash games and a completely different one for WPN tournaments: Watch Betcoin Poker's isnortbooze Win 8.1 BTC in the 25 BTC GTD in his Betcoin Gear!Betcoin Poker's isnortbooze / smssm (WPN table name) continues his impressive in the money finishes winning 8.1 BTC in the 25 BTC GTD and has provided the full stream of the final table!
This players Betcoin user name is "isnortbooze" When he plays Betcoin only tournaments or betcoin only cash games (like the daily coin or 1m BTC/2m BTC NLHE) he appears as "isnortbooze" However, when he plays WPN tournaments on Betcoin, his appears as "smssm" (that's why they call is his "WPN table name") His betcoin username is isnortbooze His WPN table name is smssm My Betcoin Username is OHYEAH My WPN table name is twitchyseal |
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That article is referring to login name and table name....you login into your account with your login name and you play at the tables with your player name....there is no option available to play under a different name in different tournaments Oh Really? BetcoinPoker.com has two types of tournaments:
1. Betcoin only tournaments which are in mbtc
2. Shared tournaments with the WPN which are in USD
When you create an account on BetcoinPoker.com, it is a unique account in the BetcoinPoker.com database, however when you play shared tourneys you will need to create another username - https://www.betcoin.ag/support/why-do-i-have-two-different-usernames(for the record, I'm fully aware of what cjmoles is doing here) |
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2) Now it goes from, "I opened multiple accounts to spam chat" (paraphrased) to "okay, maybe I did play under a couple different accounts" (paraphrased). But, you admittedly had "tons of accounts," so when does it end? You were banned for opening multiple accounts to spam chat and now you're butthurt and want to point out every truncation discrepancy, semantic variation, and chat dialogue behavior as possible to prove that Betcoin.ag did you wrong. And, yes, maybe you were treated disdainfully, but part of that is your own fault. The point is that Betcoin.ag is very generous and they're not trying to steal people's money; they give a lot....Maybe they do treat trolls badly, but they don't have time to deal with them because they have a very demanding business to maintain.
cjmoles cut the bullshit. I am not a cheater, I have only ever played on Betcoin under one account. Account login and WPN sn = Twitchyseal Betcoin chat/forum/Betcoin only poker games =OHYEAH Every betcoin only tournament or cash game I have ever played in my life has been under OHYEAH Every WPN tournament I've played on Betcoins skin has been under twitchyseal (and it;s been almost a year since my last tracked WPN mtt on betcoin) Both OHYEAH and twitchyseal are under THE SAME BETCOIN ACCOUNT Similarly, Both cjmtoo and cjmoles are under THE SAME BETCOIN ACCOUNT  Keep making shit up and I'll keep proving you wrong. |
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Even though words have many meanings, the antonym of "maximum" is not "free"
When I posted in the forums or played any "Betcoin only" tournaments my name was OHYEAH.
For all WPN tournaments, my name was twitchyseal.
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Jasonort didn't win the jackpot....jasonort's claim was that he should have won the jackpot because it wasn't clarified anywhere that "freespin" wasn't equivalent to "maxbet spin" on a bonus round. If the jackpot was won, it would have dropped....it didn't because "freespin" does not equal "max bet" in the coding. Claiming that he did win it is a misrepresentation of the facts because the argument was that he should have won it because it wasn't explained that "freespins" didn't qualify as a "max bet." Try to think about this objectively: what if there was a similar instance in one of the games at moneypot where a player claimed he should have won the jackpot because the rules were ambiguous....should the investors pay the player anyway based on the player's subjective interpretation, even though the event wasn't coded into the software? If the terms were ambiguous enough to create conflict, should the moneypot investors request the terms be clarified to avoid similar conflicts in the future? Either way one slices it...."free" and "maximum" are antonyms and not synonyms....so the interpretation was more of a reach than not.
I disagree with most of the things you wrote there. I could go through and reply line by line but I've seen others attempt to do that and it doesn't work out well. I'll dip my toe in the water with your most obvious incorrect statement: > "free" and "maximum" are antonyms The antonym of "maximum" is "minimum". You really cannot believe that those two words are antonyms. Can you? Twitchy misrepresented the facts by mixing terms associated with other games (Greedy Goblins) into the argument with the game in question (The Glam Life)....that's deception. He also photo-shops images....that's also deception....he consistently trolls and manipulates the facts to meet his agenda. Are we trying to be truthful and objective here or are we bandwagoning to suit our interests?
I don't think Twitchy ever claimed that the rules for one game were the rules for another game. If he did, perhaps you could quote the post where he did so. Making all these accusations with nothing to back them up adds nothing to the argument. You say he multi-accounts, he says "only to chat and post", you let the thread drop, but go back to accusing him of multi-accounting. It's the same with each of your accusations. You accuse, he defends, you ignore his defense and go back to step 1. Try harder. I've had good experiences with betcoin. I'm something like 10 BTC up there and didn't have any trouble withdrawing my winnings. I've also had bad experiences with betcoin. Their customer support is among the worst I have ever experienced. Tickets go ignored for months at a time. |
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All one has to do is read this thread to see the truth.
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Oh. You should really read this thread where they discuss the details of how they figured out the Betsoft Jackpots are rigged. Yes please do. If you do you'll see I was initially skeptical. In fact reading it back now to my eternal shame I sounded a bit like cjmoles at the time. How embarrassing!   |
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Pehaps you should ask Ed to explain it to you...again.
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Oh. You should really read this thread where they discuss the details of how they figured out the Betsoft Jackpots are rigged. Thats where the data is posted. You are lying....I read that and it does not demonstrate that over 100 jackpots were won while nobody was playing. You are lying again. I am not lying. I haven't claimed it demonstrated that. Again, I am not lying. No? Cj, How do you explain the smaller jackpot (the one nobody is choosing) getting hit over 100 times while not a single person wins the big jackpot that everyone picks? That is very strange, indeed, if nobody picks it, yet it is won over 100 times! It doesn't seem like it it should be won at all if it wasn't played....Something's obviously wrong with that data too.
Do you think there's any possibility that these two graphs are accurate or no?   ^^^^^^^ Couldn't delete this one? The graph does not demonstrate that over 100 jackpots were won while nobody was playing - and I didn't claim it did. |
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Oh. You should really read this thread where they discuss the details of how they figured out the Betsoft Jackpots are rigged. Thats where the data is posted. You are lying....I read that and it does not demonstrate that over 100 jackpots were won while nobody was playing. You are lying again. I am not lying. I haven't claimed it demonstrated that. Again, I am not lying. |
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