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541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your rate in betting base on odds alone? on: June 30, 2023, 11:24:49 PM
I'm hoping to make more BTC so the more bets from now on the more chances of winning. I think that's what I'm going to do now before the bull run takes full speed.
But this will not be easy, right. Because the odds may be changing during the live. The chance of winning in betting is sometimes cewek or fifty fifty. i personally also want to make more NTV from gambling, but honestly and actually this is not easy.

this will always be risky and whatever the decision is, gambling on Certain odds, or other sports bets will always be at risk, so yes, only against camping in things that we really understand
Odds, changing or not, will not determine the winner of the game. It is jist a 'pulse' from the gamblers such that majority thinks that the team with lower odds will win the game. Although it happens often, it would be wrong to fully rely on it such as betting all out. Anything could happen not only in the match but also with gambling. Therefore, risk management should always be consider than to be dependent with different factors such as odds.  Indeed there's a reason to why the odds is low or why do majority of bettors believe that a particular team would win; could be previous matches and stats. It is just that super teams in any field came across losses.
542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: June 29, 2023, 11:25:51 PM
Cheating in gambling will only harm themselves instead of expecting a big reward from one or two successful cheats.
Abusing casinos for personal gain is strictly prohibited and every casino has warned against it in their ToS. OK you probably won't get caught and banned on the first try but when they start suspecting you then you might pay the price.

In the end it all comes down to the individual because some gamblers also seem to be quite capable of taking advantage of their chances of getting good results even if they abuse the casino. Whoever did it should be capable enough to take responsibility because there are always consequences for what we do.
Most addicted gamblers don't care about the system or the consequences; they make critical judgments that may have bad effects in the future; it's none of their business. Gambling is for everyone and not for everyone; it all depends on the degree of games we record; we are not prepared to lose any more money in gambling. Looking at everything related to gambling, I'm ready to cheat in gambling because recounting the huge losses I've documented hurts and I'm currently struggling with funds.

Maybe for now they don't care about the system since they are looking only at the present activities and they care only on how they can make their game long and win consecutively.

Gambling for me is not for everyone since it need patience and discipline and I can't afford to cheat because I don't want to participate on any of it because for sure next to that is banning of our account on casino and to bad for us if they include to take our funds then there's no other way to get that back from them because we have been busted cheating on their casino.
Banning of account won't be a problem if it will just be the consequence of cheating. It won't also be enough to stop players on such activity jist because of it. Cheating is a choice and people have their own reason to do so. What's obvious is that cheating won't always work in this industry 'coz if it does, many gamblers should be rich by now. Also, there'll be many gambling sites to close by this time. I think if there would be a way to cheat, for a single time, to each and every gambler, I think majority will embrace the opportunity. One reason is that  it is hard to win in gambling so it won't be shocking to know that many players would be eager to experience it, in any way possible. I would be guilty as well for such thing.
543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bet on live game or while game hasn't started yet? on: June 29, 2023, 10:46:32 PM


Found myself losing when the money line changes from 1.75 to 4.35 as the game began. But sometimes when I also wait for the game to start, it changes to worse such from 1.75 to 1.10
Never heard of this instance before. If you would bet from pre-game, the odds that you bet would be fixed and won't change afterwards. On visuals yes it would change especially if you would refresh the gambling site but if you would check your betting history, odds should not change the moment you put your bet into a particular odd. If it does, then there's something wrong with the website. Changing of odds more often is something which is present with live betting given that there are many gambler who does it. In every bet, there would be a change with the odds and as the game goes on. If gap on scores is big, then expect for a lower odds and lower returns. But if scores are xlose to one another then odds would still be big. Losing on the other hand is not because of odds. Betting with higher odds won't guarantee winning and would mean higher risk as well.
544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: June 27, 2023, 11:52:39 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..


Perfect answer to be told by those guys claiming that they have good strategy that could help anyone to win on their bets. Since if there's really a perfect one for them for sure they will not share it and also they became greedy to bet more then make their selves more richer. This is so obvious thoughts to think about since its so shady why they want to invite more people.

Their main intention is to scam a large number of people so for other thinking to seek for sporst tipster group they should avoid this idea because there's no perfect group that can give them a 90%-100% winning rate.
Well for some people like myself we had to learn this the hard way and since then I have always skeptical about any so called group for sure odds because I don't believe any person can provide such services looking at how gambling is very tricky and the major factor involve which is luck and no one can predict if he or she is going to be lucky.
In sportsbetting, there's this thing called fixed matches. But it is exclusive to a group of people ofcourse, more likely "big" individuals or orgaanizations. It also depends on the size and popularity of the league; bigger leagues means rich individuals would only be able to access such informations for fixed matches. But with normal betting groups  basically they are just having an agreed analysis of the possible outcome. If you, as an individual gambler,thinks that their position or bet is making more sense than your speculation, then betting in line to their position, would be better. But indeed, it won't guarantee victory. It is either you would all win, or you would all lose vs. You win they lose or they won, you lost.
545  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you dare to pawn your bitcoin? on: June 27, 2023, 11:31:16 PM
If the rules on pawning bitcoin and other digital assets have been clearly established, why not? As DaveF pointed, this is no different than getting a loan and using your bitcoin as collateral. If the value of your bitcoin at the time of the loan is locked to what it is for the duration of the loan period, I think that's a good deal. If it's not, and the terms are favored towards the lender, I wouldn't do it and just get a regular loan instead.
Indeed, question is whether the price would remain the same in the first place and interest would be the only sort of increase to be paid by the one who pawned it 'coz if not and the price of Bitcoin would be also considered, then it is where problem may arise. Lucky if it happen that Bitcoin's price suddenly fall therefore you'd be able to pay less but if it would increase in a sudden then you'd be in huge debt just to get it back and not to mention the interest into it, if you will choose to wait for its price to fall. It is better to use other collaterals I guess than to use something having a very volatile market price.

Also if it is pawning, I would prefer taking a loan to an amount I can afford to payback in a short period of time. Atleast in such way, I won't be minding no other additional payment other than the interest itself.
546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Important Points to Learn from Your Worst Sports Betting Losses! on: June 26, 2023, 11:53:31 PM
  • Have alternate plans to execute, so that loss can be minimised while the match is in progress.

This one is also dangerous IMO. By trying to chase and cover your 'unrealized' losses, you are already setting yourself for more losses. What if your live bet to compensate with your possible loss also turned out to be a failure? Sometimes letting these losses occur is much better than trying to get something off of the event and salvage a few dollars. It's not worth the time and effort IMO, and it's better to start researching for the next event rather than sulking in your defeat or trying to win back something off of the lost bet.
Indeed, it would more likely be some sort of 'pushing your luck' scheme. During continued bet losses, I'd prefer taking a pause and having some rest. Once you are affected by your emotions such as frustration, then things won't do you any good. Let it slide for now. The drive to make up with your losses will just more likely give you a tendency to lose even more. Even if you have a large pocket to gamble, you'd be tilted aftereards. This is gambling and we won't always win the game no matter how good of a player you are. Let us simply accept the fact that there are "red days".

Analysis will just help a player to make a guess with basis and not guess alone. It would indeed lessen the risk of losing but will never guarantee winning. Ups and downs are part of our gambling routine and rather than focusing to learn in order to come up with a win, I think it would be better to be preventive, or to simply make adjustments and limitations to how much can you afford losing.
547  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Top Five Reasons Sports Bettors Are Attracted to eSports on: June 26, 2023, 11:28:16 PM
One main reason I guess is familiarity. Sportsbettors are still a normal being who are playing games in particular with esports  as they grow up. Esports is an interest to many youngsters out there to both male and female individuals. Graphics, contents and variation is attractive no doubt. Also, it is as profitable as with sportsbetting. As entertaining as well, especially if it fits your interest. There's no direct correlation between sportsbettor and esports bettor but it just happened that most of us have experienced playing some of the games in our computer and phones which are now being developed to be more competitive.
548  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who Buys Bitcoin When The Price is 100k$? on: June 26, 2023, 10:58:42 PM
If its market price is still increasing, then that would be fine. Also, it just sounds expensive 'coz it is 1 bitcoin as a unit, but fact is, you can buy a portion of it. Given that its market value depends on demand and there's limited supply of it, then it is okay to believe that skies the limit for its market value as long as demand is increasing as well. People would buy no matter what price there is as long as it moves. Volatility is the biggest risk for assets of the likes but it is also the biggest advantage over other type of investments. And as a currency, what's more likely to happen if people would be buying Bitcoin at $100k, is for investment purposes and not for payment means.
It will be hard to know. A lot of people, even the rich ones, stopped buying bitcoin when it peaked @ $68k. Everyone only thought of selling at that point, and the order books then are filled with fat sell orders looking to get out of the market right even before the crash occurs. Unless people see that the market is really pushing and not another fakeout, someone will buy at that price - especially the greedy ones looking to get more. Until that happened, asking this question is pointless as all things point to buying at that price being illogical since there aren't that many people willing to buy at that point.
A crash happened last ATH but if we would base on graphs, in particular with annual Bitcoin price movement, such thing is possible. Cycle is  price goes up, be corrected then go up again. Even I, before, never believed its price could be as huge as its ATH, but what happens simply proves how huge the potential is, for this industry.
549  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Having no money to invest in Bitcoin is even better on: June 23, 2023, 03:19:52 PM
Somehow right but not all the time. Fiest of all, even if you have the knowledge but lacks the capability to invest, you won't be able to test or even apply that knowledge, right? As per those who have money, indeed they would be only after with profit but still they have the capability to try and test, and learn eventually. Both has ups and downs, it just depends on the individual to how will he/she be able to make use of the circumstances. Perhaps there's a huge dump with the market price, initially, you would have idea of buying right? Then how would you be able to do that? You know what to do but you cannot act in accordance with your plan. I'd say people with money has the advantage still, even if dumps occur, they can afford holding for a long time until the market recovers.
550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between futures trading and gambling on: June 23, 2023, 02:37:27 PM
The only thing which binds gambling into futures trading, is risk of losing money. But the truth is, trading would only be a gamble if you won't have any trading plan. Indeed anakyses won't guarantee a winning trade but atleast it would allow you to lessen the risk of losing and at the same time would help you manage the amoubt you would be engaging. Gambling is indeed somewhat alike but the distinct characteristic I guess is that in trading, there are more people who win in comparison with people who win in gambling.
Luck versus Knowledge. It's like you want us to compare the two. And we all know the answer to that.


Best representation.
But unlike with gambling, there's a period wherein most of the people in trading industry are winning;bullrun. And such feature does not exist in gambling. However I won't blame those who still thinks that these two are the same. There are even different ways to earn in this industry, in the first place.
551  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New to Bitcoin on: June 22, 2023, 11:08:14 PM
hi guys im 64 years old and i want to learn how to use bitcoin email me at stevenjohnstone@mail.com with any tips or whatever i need to learn so i can make money these days
Well, things won't be fed with spoon, unfortunately. People would ask for an exchange to do so unless you are one of their relatives or they are just concerned to you. Many people are asking with the same question and query but you'd most of the time get the same answer; learn it through reading and creating your own research. Also, it won't be profit to come first but risk of losing money. The market price is volatile in nature which should be enough to be worry of the outcomes and to not be blinded by potential alone, of this industry.
I'm curious as to why the OP consistently requests users to email them in every post. It's not encouraged to share personal email addresses on the forum, and private discussions about Bitcoin aren't necessarily required. If you have a genuine desire to learn, there are numerous online sources available where you can acquire knowledge. Sending emails is unlikely to be effective, as individuals may not have the time to respond individually. It's better to actively engage on the forum, where everyone can assist you in learning what you need.
There's an intention ofcourse. Whether he's aware or not, of the tendency of being fooled by other people because of the chance that there will be individuals taking his innocence for granted, he might have his own intentions as well. 'coz obviously, he could have dropped all of his wuestions in this topic but he still chose to have a talk privately. For the new ones out there, if you guys could make effort asking, atleast apply it as well on gaining atleast initial knowledge on what you are trying to engage yourself with.
552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HODL or not? BTC investors need to rethink their strategy as on: June 22, 2023, 02:31:37 PM
Either it go up or down. Now make a choice whether to invest right now, having beliefs that the market value would continue increasing, or to wait for things to fall in order to invest more. Eitherway would give you a chance to make profit fron investing into this industry. However you have options to diversify your funds to different tokens in this industry. Investing into one bucket, as we all know, won't be advisable. There are other options to choose from given tgat all tokens has its own potential. Problem is picking the right alternative.
When FUD hit the market, most long-term investors started taking coins off exchanges to support self-custody.
We saw this happened during coinbase and binance SEC drama. People are withdrawing their funds from Binance but we already knew a ploy on the SEC case. Now that instituions lining up for bitcoin etf, who knows how btc will react but this is bullish news for everyone. Though we need to always be careful on the act since this market is so volatile.
Would be hard to determine especially as early as it is in the present. Rejection in $31k may still take place but it also has the tendency to breakthrough especially if buyers would support such market price movement. On my end, I'd choose waiting 'til the ideal market value on my end  shows. There's no need to rush in the first place, so better wait for trend to be more obvious.
553  Economy / Gambling / Re: Top 50 gambling Instagram & TikTok accounts on: June 22, 2023, 01:55:43 PM
     -   Maybe not all of those influencers' followers follow them on the gambling advertisements they promote on the social media platform. Because we know that most of their followers only support them with the content they make on any social media platform like Instagram or Twitter.

And if anyone follows them, these followers are also gamblers for sure. But in fairness to these influencers, the number of their followers is actually staggering.
Or maybe these influencer followers just want to know how to get people to join to earn commissions. There are many reasons for these influencer followers to follow them on their social media and it's true, not all of them are gambling because maybe they want to make friends and support each other in creating content. And the number of their followers can indeed be very large and this is what we have to find out how they can have that many followers. Maybe if we can have it, we can spread something useful to them.

Those influencer can earn thru views and also they can earn on referrals so don't get surprise for those influencer to be more eager to make their community big because this is how they earn. I also forgot that they can earn by donations so expect that they always share good things and avoid posting negatives since it can ruin their career or maybe their other recruits will doubt on them because they became suspicious on their intentions.
I guess that's the influencer's dilemma. If you want to earn, you need to grow your community and also propose good products that make sense. If you start promoting crap, people unfollow. I think that is precisely what people are looking for, someone who has an stake on actually being right in their appraisals.

Well what can you expect to them? They are just trying to earn money so expect that if we see them always pointing out a one casino to play and always show good results with them. Then we already know that they are not there to help there community but rather they exist to entertain and trying to accumulate more sponsors or donators in their streams. But still if we just don't look up with the hype we can still learn from them and that is one we should look after with multiple influencers we possibly watch.
Not all streamers or promoters are gamblers anyway therefore, it shouldn't be surprising to know that many of them are just after the money, as their reason to do so.But eitherway, it is not always on a bad side. They are still a help to some gamblers who are building interest with a particular gambling site. These streamers would give them initial thought whether to continue their engagement or to look for other options. There's no rule in the first place that streamers should be players of the thing they are promoting. It is just that such feature of them could help them to be more knowledgeable of the things they are trying to offer to their audiences.
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556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Casinos Go Bankrupt Because of Player Wins? on: June 21, 2023, 03:54:57 PM
Is it possible for a casino to go bankrupt because a player gets a very big win?

I think maybe that's hard to happen if we look at casinos that are already big and well known. But suppose there is a new casino, and there are some players who are very good at playing, so they can win continuously, can the casino go bankrupt? or do they already have an algorithm or a way so players can't keep winning?

Most of the games of the casino has a max win limit. This helps them to control the win of players to avoid bankruptcy. Only casino that has a small bankroll or no set max win limit are prone on being bankrupt with one huge jackpot win by players.

Most of the established casino has max win limit so if the discussion is for big established casino then the answer is no. Having that kind of huge jackpot is very rare for a casino to experience a multiple hit like that that will destroy their bankroll.
Problem is not all gambling sites are having good systems to have such feauture, unfortunately. I'd also say this is possible with both small and big platforms as long as their system is not monitored to avoid such problems. Indeed jackpots are a bit of a percentage, most of the time, of the total platform's fund and this is already one way to avoid bankruptcy. No gambling site in their right mind, would put all of their funds in a single winning. This instance just sounds impossible because it rarely happens, but not because of that, casinos would be too comfortable. We are in online platform and glitches maay happen in a sudden.
Casinos don't need an algorithm when the house edge is there for them to do the work.
Algorithm, I think, still matters. If there's no such thing their edge would be overpowered by continuous winnings of the players, especially if it won't be a single gambler who'd be in such place. Edge of a casino works with the majority's transactions and losses, but if the other way around, that is pere problem would more likely arise as in line with the topic.
557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: June 21, 2023, 03:27:27 PM
The betting agent should be blamed, he should know how gambling is and how addicts can borrow money to gamble or use the money they supposed to use for something else to gamble. I see the betting agent as an inexperienced person and he should learn from his mistake. The person he borrowed money too is not a rich person, and the betting agent will know that. Then why borrow him money? I can borrow someone money if what he wants to use the money for is not risky, unlike gambling that I know can take more from addicts. I will also blame the gambler because he is not disciplined but borrowing money to gamble, that is foolishness that can lead gambling addicts to dept. So I will blame them both. I blame the gambler for not discipline himself and I will blame the betting agent for not knowing that he should not borrow any gambler money.
They're not completely to blame for the problem; we can't blame the gambler and ignore the betting agent; they're both to blame for the horrible quarrel on the ground. Simplifying the circumstance is simple: give the gambler a calculated specific period of time to pay the debts owed, while the betting agent should remain calm and wait for the estimated plan time given to the gambler. I understand that this could end up in a salary reduction, but he needs to adapt to the situation, which is exactly what the betting agent faces these days.
Well, yes, the best thing to do first is to understand each sides on every situation. They should both first be aware that they had mistakes, regardless of who was more wrong, in order to come up with a solution. Setting a date for the gambler to be able to pay the agent would be a good idea but what if the player has no plans of paying it because he wanted to still blame the agent? If there are no waiver involved in this transactions, I guess the agent will be left with no other choice but to accept the circumstances and learn from it.

We do not all think the same way. Some people will be staying on their stand, in every argument. Going to the roots of the problem would help, indeed, but it won't easily work most of the times especially if other party is not cooperating.
558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions? on: June 20, 2023, 11:45:04 PM
Once you're addicted into something, you'd be aware of things such as its consequences but that is different from knowing the downsides. You'll just be too hooked  up with a speficic behavior or habit as part of an impulse to do it on a daily basis.
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.
Aware is different from knowing, for those people who are confused. As I've mentioned, knowing is having idea about a particular thing but with deeper understanding.  In the case of addiction, not only in gambling, they know what they are doing but they cannot explain why do they do it too often. They know the consequences but they cannot help it 'coz of the 'satisfaction' they get from doing a repetitive behavior. This is why professional help should be always advised if you know someone who is having addiction 'coz they won't have the initiative to do so, most of the time.
Indeed two different things. But to add, there are different kinds of addiction wherein some people are addicted to the behavior and not the reward from doing so. And I think it is obvious that in gambling, addiction is created by the slight tendency of winning big time in an instant and not really to the behavior or the actual gambling or playing experience. I've mentioned this 'coz we are talking aboyt consequences. Playing too much won't be that bad in the first place and its worse problem is to not be able to function with proper on a daily basis especially if you're a student or an employee. On the other hand, playing because of high hopes of winning would more likely leave you broke or sell your properties if incase frustration would take place as its consequence, and this is where worse case scenarios, as a consequence, is not being percieved by some 'heavy' gamblers.
559  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Teaching Bitcoin is not do or die on: June 20, 2023, 11:22:12 PM
Is it worth teaching this technology? Yes, for sure it would be good for this industry to spread its popularity but for individuals who are not really interested? I'm not sire. It is like exposing them to risk. Maybe it does depend on who would you be sharing the concept of Bitcoin with. Most of non-crypto investors think that this industry is either an easy way to be rich or a total fraud. Sharing its profitability depends on who you be shared it to. If the individual won't put any effort because of such impression, then that will just be a waste of time and the possible outcome is blaming you if incase anything bad would happen.
In my perspective, having proof that you're earning with Bitcoin is more successful when telling people what Bitcoin is and how it works. Most people nowadays require evidence and proof because they are fearful of being scammed. Nowadays, there is a lot of scamming going on, and we should be aware of it. When we teach kids about Bitcoin, we should include the risks and pitfalls as well as the perks and advantages. In other words, give them all of the knowledge gradually so that they truly comprehend your teachings because some people are slow. These will assist them in making an informed decision based on the knowledge they have learnt.
Showing proofs will indeed help you persuade or convince them to engage towards this industry but the fact that profit won't come in an instant and in a consistent manner should also be considered to avoid overlooking the potential of this industry.
560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? on: June 18, 2023, 11:54:45 PM
No, since I don't gamble with my pocket money, and it has nothing to do with gambling in the end. Regardless of how confident you are or how you feel before you begin playing. The result will always be the same. The only thing I regret is not being able to force myself to withdraw and instead keep going.

There is always next time. If you gamble and is on the winning streak, you can always decide to take the winning.  Just don't be greedy and think that there will be next time to enjoy the game.  For the moment let yourself take the drive seat and do things that you wanted to do such as withdrawing your winnings in gambling.  It must be you to be followed and not your desire to continuously gamble until your fund is depleted.
Easy to say but when you are already on such condition then it would really be that hard for you to stop mid-way on which this is where most people do really fail on doing so.This is why gambling industry becomes big

because people's or gamblers behavior would really be continuing on what they are doing. There's no time about regret and hesitance on the time that you do have still money on your pocket but on the time that there's

none then this is where it starts for you to have those regrets or feeling sorry on what you have done. This is why on the time that you do gamble then you should prepare yourself
about facing up some losses and this is why you should really be that prepared and getting used to it when it comes to losses. This is why its important that you should
really be accepting about your fate that in the end of the day you would be losing those betting capital that you've been using.
Once you get the idea that you just grabbed the opportunity or chance to win, you'd be away from regrets simply because if the outcome is good, you'd probably be celebrating at the end of the day. You won't lose of you did not bite the chance. You won't win if you did not try. Either you lose or win, you've made up your decision to gamble therefore there should not be any regret. To feel sad of the bad outcome is just fine but remorse is another thing. If you ever be feeling such thing after betting, then you should stop it already; gambling isn't for you. There'll be always a tendency to lose so would you be okay feeling remorse everytime? That would be too tiring on my end.
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