If there is an actually an exchange I'll run down the busiest street in scotland naked.



He cant even reply to an email, how does he expect to run a multi-million dollar business that he made out coinpal would be.

He said he got blood clots in his legs from from sitting at his desk working so hard cause he'd fall asleep in his chair and he'd been working so hard for a month.  


Well I've been working off 3-4 hours sleep on average a night for a year and I'm fine. I will screenshot our emails and you can read the stories. It is typical ranting behaviour styled craziness.




@AmericanBit - Do you really think his father will want his sons name to be related to a fairly large scam? Perfect timing with gox too, 'Another evil computer scammer'. I don't want his fathers money, I want my money back off of Ryan.


It's not hard to prove he ran it, registered it and the scammed (although thats speculation until the 18th) and he works for his father doing the business promotion and what not. Who wants to use a company that has known scammers on board, it indirectly effects Franks business and it would be in his best interest to make his son pay back what he stole.


He wouldn't fight it, GoDaddy will give everything up in a second. Then there's the proof. the emails to me. One of my lawyers is for crypto stuff so he is already aware of many of the laws. It's principle, now. One news paper story about the biggest plumbing/renovation owners sons pulling off a 'evil internet money scam' is very bad for your businesses credibility.

Not at all, he works for his father. I have a few state side based attorneys due to large marketing projects. Ryan wont reply to me.

I'll speak to his father like he's a little kid or something if he's going to act like that.


I've had to go through it before for less, and I lost $4000 from $17'000 in fees and such and then a little in conversions. but its better than nothing. So probably $5000 of the 17000 I was owed I lost. Getting $12000 of money your owed is better than losing 17'000? Yes?

Ignore my PM from yesterday, after Ryan seen what I had done, the tactic I was using he went in a hissy fit and made up another ridiculous story and threatened to take my shares off me and leave me with nothing. Looks like he's trying to do that to us all anyway.


Yes, you realise what he did now dont you? Either took the money to buy the gear to make money for himself. Made fake demo showings, made aliases (chris) and then use the mining gear to pay until he milked it and then take off.

As soon as his name was discovered he went to Godaddy and demanded privacy mode on the account.


I'm not suing his father, I'm sure he's an honest man. I couldnt care less. I want to tell him what his sons done and that I'll take legal action if he (Ryan) doesnt pay me back.

Who's saying anything about getting lawyers involved? Frank Gay plumbing is a big company down here and I'm sure someone in the media wouldn't mind reporting on this story. I'm also sure that Frank Gay plumbing will not like the bad publicity stemming from the actions of the own son and business director.

If Ryan Gay doesn't want the media to hear about this, then he better deliver or refund everyone's money. Simple as that.

Ryan put the photos up, not me. (Ryan Gay)


Have you not been following along that I was hacked by someone and they kept changing my passwords. So I had to open new accounts until I figured a way to lock them out of my email/hostgator.


Ryan-Coinpal - was me but is now compromised/password changed and I asked for it to be deleted.

RyanMilligan - was me but I forget to put the password down and it was a random generated one.

Coinpal, was Ryan Gay. Except the couple of posts I made introducing myself.


The account I am on now is the one I'll stick too. I don't know mate. Thats stressing me out as much as you. I offered him an unreal deal (a month of free marketing and he could have all my shares) so I have no say in the company. I was going to pay marketing from my own pocket and then at the end of the month be reimbursed, but he still wont reply. Not had an email from him all day.


EDIT: I am making Coinpal (Ryan Gay) buy the shares back off me at market rate and then I am having NOTHING to do with Coinpal. He is doing suspicious things, like hiding his name on GoDaddy as soon as we start getting a bit weary.

I was given a number to call his father, badpeanut is going to call first to make sure it is legit before I go spending like $250 on a phone call from the UK. I will do my best to try and get everyone who wants their money back, out. There was never a chris, I spent today analyzing the writing styles. Coinpal had 1 owner/partner - Ryan Tyson Gay.

Thank god I never signed any legal documents. I will hopefully get through to the father on the phone and will tell him simply, you have a huge amount of angry investors who want their money back from your son. I suggest you make him pay  or legal action will be taken or even worse as I'm sure some of you investors are angry and live nearby.

This is my personal twitter account if you want to find me: @RyanMilligan2

I am not Ryan Gay, I've never met him. It's clear to me he started with good intentions, but he simply couldn't run Coinpal the way it needed to be ran and so went AWOL/Scamming.

Here is his linkedin profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryantysongay

The Ryan Tyson Gray of Orlando, FL?

I'll do it in the morning with a passport, it's 3.00am here. I will be up by 7.00am and should have it done by 11.30am.

Milligan, I know it's hard being in your position, but you have to understand that people are skeptical and frustrated for a reason. If you are legit, than thanks for being in communication. If not, we have the address of the "devs" if we need to take legal action against them. If some posters are being overly harsh (AmericanBit), just don't listen to them, but again, we're just as frustrated as you.

We all either want our money back or an exchange that works. What we do not want is to lose on our investment, in which case we will go after them. So we'll find out on the 18th.

Okay gentleman, I am a dick I am aware of that. I'm angry that people think I'm a scammer. As for marketing do you have a portfolio that shows you on average get your clients a 214% profit increase in 3 month periods? I do, I'm proud of it.  I'm the majority shareholder, just like any of you invested you want your money protected, yes? Well, I'm doing my fucking best here to keep you all updated with what is happening with your money and i'm being abused for it. If it's a disaster when it launches, fine. I'll just dump all my shares and it'll crash and that'll give you something else to cry about.

If you want a real exchange that is not what you do thats where you attract people just looking to join a twitter group and pump and dump. We want to launch a knowledge centre, along with newbie courses and actually teach people how to trade, how to analyse, have expert traders give out tips. This is what the 30BTC goes to, incentives to get the big players and not the people playing with pennies. Traders are happy where they are now, how do we get them to us? Incentives.

Put offers down that seem endlessly easy for them to produce referrals and the largest profits and then we let the features and the sites development as a whole keep them there trading. You don't hit up all the forums, great place to start and had I been part of the team from the beginning, it wouldn't of went this way, it's down to that stupid logo that's up now. If they hadn't put that up, they wouldn't have fucked everyones trust day one. I can guarantee that.


I know 20k isn't a lot of money. That's why I invested it, because there is a 50/50 chance that it's genuine and if it is then that 20k is pennies to what it can produce. If it's a failure, 20k was worth the risk for me. I'll try get the money back, we know who the owner is, his address is online. It's not particularly difficult to find someone who isn't trying to hide. Like I have said a million times, we will know on Wednesday. If I don't get what I asked for us all i.e team member identification, a working demo and the money so I can start getting the offers out to people to join and win the incentives. If you are a trader with a 500 people following everyday, and you see an offer for 5 BTC for the most referrals and each trader you introduce must trade 0.5btc within the time limit. You are going to pick a coin looking profitable, tell your following about it and tell them a 0.5 minimum, then when you say jump they'll say how high. Easy money. Now we could have 10 big traders doing that easily daily for 2 weeks, now all these people use our bots and enjoy the site. Free upgrades in memberships for those deposited and traded certain amounts. Or who win mini competitions.

That's now a bunch of customers for good.


Newbies, well I don't need to explain that. Courses and walkthroughs. Make them money and they will stay.


Down and out news sites? No thanks. You hit up the big ones, you hit them with things they can't say no too. I already have 3 lined up which will probably get us about 5000 sign ups by day 3, from that an easy 1000 will stick around with a good 300 pumping decent volumes in day in and out. Total cost is 12BTC + I have to do some free marketing for them.

Flogged marketing advice? Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I am a dick, I maybe should be more professional but why? I'm human, I'm a marketer. I'm here to put an idea on the table for you that dont want to say no to and I'm good at it. Thats why you probably deal with people who only answer 'yes, sir' - 'no, sir' who the fuck wants that?   I want to speak to a real person who isn't worried about what you have to say about THEM because I am not a exchange. I'm here to get you on it and using it.


Say what you want, but it's pure speculation until April 18th. Before that actually. I will know early hours of Thursday morning.

If they don't provide, I'll ask for my money back. If I don't get it, I will tell you all. I am here to make money and raise crypto awareness, not scam anyone. The potential in this is way more than any scam can make. Even if it was a scam and they/he ran with our cash - he'd be an idiot. He's put the idea out their and I'd probably go ahead and pay to have a site developed myself.

Obviously not under the same name, Coinpal was stupid to use from the start. There used to be that paypal to btc site under the .com version. However, the ideas out and if he threw that idea away for a little change then at least I can say the 20k I paid was for the idea, as I have seen enough to know exactly how this works as a whole. If FinCen grant the right for us to trade $, which they may as the meeting went well, then the profits that the scam would have made could be weekly profits easily for us.


If/When I get replies, I will get you updates. I will let you know everything I know as soon as I know.

He doesn't seem to understand what I am saying... I say one thing, he disagrees. I say another, he finds another disagreement that contradicts his last. it's boring me now.


Badpeanut - how many shares do you own? I'll make you an offer for them if you will stop posting in this thread. I say I think Coinpal are scamming, you call me a hacker. I say they hacked me, now I am a scammer. I say legitimately in my opinion Coinpal are legit, as in your money is not being stolen but I have a theory which the person who started coinpal needs more time - which is fine in my eyes, they should just be honest about it if they do instead of telling me stories which I can clearly find many flaws in strangely enough - you claim we are now a group of scammers.

Nothing will be good enough for you. PM me if you want, we will have a moderator escrow the deal.

What a car crash of a thread, if I were behind CoinPal I'd want this somewhat aggressive and naive RyanMilligan character as far away from it as possible, keeps referring to himself and CoinPal as "we" yet in the other thread stated he hasn't signed any documentation to be an official partner.

So you're basically a mouthpiece (who flogs recycled marketing advice I notice) who shoots his mouth off at the first sign of trouble -- which incidentally was probably your own fault, with you hinting it was malware to blame -- and you expect to be sent 30 BTC to advertise with just like that? I wouldn't trust you with 0.3 BTC from what I've just read.

Couldn't make it up, nice job.

One day Karma strikes back...


Did anybody sent a mail to Cryptostocks? I mean they´re selling  shares as though nothing had happened.

Ok, that might be plausible, but if that were the case, where is the real Ryan Gay??  Why is he not in here defending his good name!?  Why the silence?  Other than information from 'Ryan-CoinPal', we have heard nothing from the actual owners / developers of the site since March 25, despite the fact that the 'CoinPal' account was logged into today.  Sure, maybe the 'CoinPal' account was hacked, but if that were me I'd either try to reclaim my account via the site's admins, or start a new account and at least try to clear things up!  I certainly wouldn't be sitting on my hands mere days before the launch of my new 'Exchange Extraordinaire' that I had 5 months of my life invested into!!

The logic just doesn't add up.  Silence = guilt IMO!

70 BTC



From coinpal team



I'm joking. Sorry for your loss but it was pretty obvious that these people were scammers. Their idea was great, maybe you could consider building this into a legitimate service. A lot of people have lost money to this scam...

Cannabit... what limits the size of the gardens? Today i saw a grower in colorado? who targets to be the first billionaire in the US from growing. He had a really large tent with probably thousands of plants.

Since the work most probably isnt linear growing with bigger tents... why can he have such big tents and cannabit cant?

By the way... they claimed that his weed is taken from his hands fast. So it doesnt look like the market is saturated soon.

As long as you are not bashing and staying positive feel free to share your thoughts. Constructive criticism is always welcomed. Cannabit has invested into several operators/growers for the gardens. Cannabit itself is not directly cultivating our own crop but we are working with the growers who is doing the cultivating and maintaining their gardens. Each garden can legally have up to 45 plants. We currently have 4 fully operational gardens. The current plant count is at the moment is 141 plants combined that are flowering/vegging. This is not including some new seed we planted and clones that have been cut from our mother plant.

If you don't mind sharing the details of your project and how you plan on making it happen i would like to hear about it. Reply back to the PM i shot you yesterday.

There is no need to come on here bashing us bringing negativity to the thread. We had a setback as mentioned due to the mold issue we had. The ari circulation was poor and the problem has been fixed. You are telling me that the grow equipment we have is worth 8K at most? Just the LED lighting alone was worth close to double of what you are claiming our setup costs. Aside from the LED lighting, i have listed the HPS hoods, lights and ballast just to give you an idea of the setup we have. If you add in the cost of the climate controllers, tents, fans, nutrients, etc... there is way more than $8k of flower power that has been invested into this project. If you do some research on the equipment listed for anyone that is interested we have spent a good amount of funds on equipment. Let's try to keep this post positive. I understand there are professionals out there who have many more years and experience under their belt. I assure you that what we have going on is not a scam and dividends will be paid out as soon as we can consistently generate income for our shareholders. We've had a little set back but everything looks good looking forward.

8  X  California Lightworks SolarStorm 880
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24  X  Hydrofarm Raptor 8" Hood Reflectors
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24  X  Hortilux HPS 1000w Grow Bulbs
http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/High-Pressure-Sodium#shps

24  X  Lumatek Air-cooled Digital Ballast
http://www.lumatekballast.com/products/ballasts/#prod-188

Really a shame to see yet another crypto::stocks asset seemingly biting the proverbial dust!  I had high hopes that this project wasn't a scam...those hopes are rapidly evaporating at this point.

Is this thread dead?

Im not sure what to think of a competitor posting in a competitors thread its own advertising and claiming "i can do everything better".

Normally i would have thought that these tents include technique to overview humidity, temperature and other factors so you get informed of bad conditions instantly. Im not sure if the airflow can be measured correctly somehow.

What do you mean with 100USD were needed to safe the whole crop?

Anyway... its a bit strange that you admit errors can happen but blame others when it happens then. Im not in the business so i cant tell what could have been though.

Thank you for your comment. This is for real and with any investment it is a gamble. But with any investment there are risks involved. As long as we don't experience anything out of the ordinary that is out of our control i would say this is not high risk. Competition moving in fast though as it looks like there is more supply coming in than the demand available which results in price drops for volume purchases.