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541  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-12 Could Amazons New Currency... on: February 13, 2013, 03:13:32 AM
How awesome will bitcoin look when this new coin fails for all the reason bitcoin suceeds!

There is no reason why this currency should fail, as it makes total sense for a company to emit its own currency.

In fact, when one believes in monetary freedom, private currencies like this are something one should expect and look forward to.  By any means, I think it's good that big companies such as Apple, Microsoft, Coca-Cola, Amazon and so on emit their own currency with their signatures.

This with a free and efficient market exchange between all these currencies would depict the perfect picture of a libertarian notion of money.
542  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia's yearly donation campaign; Time to accept Bitcoins? on: February 13, 2013, 02:52:48 AM
Come on guys.  It's not so hard to understand.

If you propose to donate money but only in a currency they feel skeptical about (for whatever reason), it's easy for them to think it looks like a nigerian scam or a foot-in-the-door technique.

They've known about bitcoin for quite some time now.  We've tried many times to convince them.  So unless you have new arguments, let it go.

Were they inclined to accept bitcoin, they would have done so long ago.
543  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia's yearly donation campaign; Time to accept Bitcoins? on: February 13, 2013, 12:56:37 AM

This is silly.  Stop harassing them guys.  I'm pretty sure it's counter-productive.
544  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-12-02 Two Hackers Build A Way To Pay For Your Pizza With Bitcoins on: February 13, 2013, 12:06:38 AM
http://techcrunch.com/2013/02/12/two-hackers-build-a-way-to-pay-for-your-pizza-with-bitcoins

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While the question remains whether or not you should be eating Domino’s pizza at all, a clever service now allows you to pay for your pie with Bitcoins. The service is far from an official Domino’s app and is instead a gateway or broker between the world of pizza and the world of popular virtual currencies.

The site, PizzaForCoins, asks for your address and then brings up pizza places near you. You place your order and send over your coins – the exchange rate is “APPROXIMATELY $0.50 Cents less then the current Mt.Gox Rate,” their emphasis – and wait for your pizza. Then you eat it.

I've been waiting for this stuff for quite some time.  I'm happy someone finally had the means and will to do it.

Hopefully they won't just do pizza.  There is a whole market for online shopping for plenty of stuff, including groceries.  All this could be paid with bitcoins thanks to such a broker service.
545  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-12 BBC News - Bitcoin virtual currency can now be used to pay for pizza on: February 12, 2013, 07:32:59 PM
and they didn't even mention bitcointalk.org

This forum is not even on the first page of google results for "bitcoin"

Well, it's kind of a good thing, isn't it?    I mean, bitcoin is a tool.  Here we talk about it.  Elsewhere, people use it.
546  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-12 BBC News - Bitcoin virtual currency can now be used to pay for pizza on: February 12, 2013, 04:09:45 PM
Journalist: Hey Boss, remember that internet money I told you about, that one that could completely change our monetary system? That one you didn't want to make an artikle about?
Boss: Barely.
Journalist. You now can buy Pizza with it.
Boss: Well, if that isn't front page material.

*Example slightly exaggerated

Interesting example, though it is probably indeed exaggerated.


I guess journalists don't care much about concepts.  They want results, facts.

547  Local / Mining et Hardware / Re: monter une pool 100% francaise on: February 12, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
La liste des pays "francophone"

Good luck with that.

Code:
Algérie, Bénin, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroun, Cap-Vert, Comores, Côte d'Ivoire, Djibouti, 
Égypte, Gabon, Guinée équatoriale, Guinée-Bissau, Madagascar, Mali, Maroc, Maurice, Mauritanie,
Niger, République centrafricaine, République démocratique du Congo, République du Congo, Rwanda,
Sénégal, Seychelles, Tchad, Togo, TunisieCanada, HaïtiCambodge, Laos, Liban, Viêt NamAlbanie,
 Andorre, Arménie, Belgique, Bulgarie, France, Grèce, Hongrie, Lituanie, Luxembourg, Macédoine,
Moldavie, Monaco, Pologne, République tchèque, Roumanie, Slovaquie, Slovénie, SuisseVanuatu


La moitié le sont historiquement et ont 2% (ou 5 ou 10) de réel francophone.
L'autre moitié vit avec 2$ par jour et a vraisemblablement d'autre préoccupations (survivre, manger,etc)

« Bulgarie, .. , Pologne, République tchèque, Roumanie, Slovaquie, Slovénie, » ??

Je veux bien croire qu'ils ont 2% de francophones, mais de là à les lister dans les pays francophones, c'est un peu tiré par les cheveux, quand même.
548  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-11 Does Anyone Bitcoin? on: February 12, 2013, 12:55:38 PM
This is a survival board. These guys are going to be extremely uncomfortable with the idea that Bitcoin is not tangible.
Nonsense, if they really are survivals, they should be very happy once they discover the concept of brainwallet! It isn't exactly useful to have gold if it get stolen  Smiley

Survivalists gather lots of stuff, store them in a nuclear shelter, and protect it all with heavy weapons.

So I don't worry too much about their gold.
549  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-11 Does Anyone Bitcoin? on: February 12, 2013, 03:23:35 AM

First time I ever see the word "bitcoin" used as a verb.   Sounds nice.

Next time you want to ask someone if he's bitcoin aware, just ask him:


Do you bitcoin?



550  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia's yearly donation campaign; Time to accept Bitcoins? on: February 12, 2013, 03:04:40 AM
I think that would be the best way to go about it. Why not invite the founder of wikipedia to the bitcoin conference, then he can shake hands with important bitcoin people. Win win for everyone.

I think the bitcoin conference should make it a point to give invitations to important people that can help propell bitcoin forward.

Sure.  Inviting him could not hurt.  But I'm pretty sure he'll decline politely.

Come on guys, let's face it.  If we want Wikipedia to accept bitcoin donations, it's much more for bitcoin than for Wikipedia.  You know it would be a big advertisement for bitcoin.  We can't be partial about this.
551  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wikipedia's yearly donation campaign; Time to accept Bitcoins? on: February 12, 2013, 01:36:20 AM

Can anyone remind me why noone has made a bitcoin-friendly fork of Wikipedia already?
552  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Quantum Conspiracy: What Popularizers of QM Don't Want You to Know on: February 12, 2013, 01:27:20 AM
Credit of the two options goes to Hugh Everett III and JS Bell.But their astounding discoveries are ignored by the mainstream popular science.

Everett's interpretation is actually quite popular amongst physicists IIRC.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1301.1069

See question 12.

Copenhagen 42%
Information   24%
Everett         18%
553  Economy / Speculation / Re: will we hit $25 this week? on: February 11, 2013, 11:28:06 PM

 Grin

Amazingly enough, I had never thought of this analogy before!
554  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-09 On Wikileaks, Bitcoin... on: February 11, 2013, 11:11:24 PM
Fourth, what is a collective after all. A voluntary group that shares resources and risk, much like a cooperative or company if you will. In markets such principles of redistribution exist as well, in the form of insurances for example.

Sure, but in socialism you don't have the right to sell your share or to buy some.  In liberalism, you can.  Shares are then conveniently called "shares" or "stocks".
555  Other / Off-topic / The Pirate Bay - Away From Keyboard on: February 11, 2013, 09:49:39 PM

A nice quote from Peter Sunde in the Pirate Bay documentary:

« They know how to make money before and they don't want to change.  They're like the Amish.  They don't want electricity.  They know how to make do without electricity. »



Somehow, I think the comparison is a bit related to bitcoin.
556  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Implantation du Bitcoin en France on: February 11, 2013, 09:38:54 PM
Ca peut paraitre idiot, mais je crains que la langue soit encore un frein pour beaucoup de francais, probablement plus que dans d'autres pays comme ceux cites (pays scandinaves notamment).

De la meme facon, le manque de services en langue francaise fait probablement partie des causes de la non-popularite de bitcoin en france.
(services d'echanges / conversions notamment)

Le problème c'est qu'il n'est pas facile de discerner la cause de la conséquence là-dedans.  Tu dis que le manque d'informations en langue française est la raison du manque d'intérêt des francophones, mais je pourrais aussi dire que c'est l'inverse:  le manque d'intérêt des francophones est la cause du manque de sources en langue française.
557  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-09 On Wikileaks, Bitcoin... on: February 11, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
The issue with anarcho-socialism is that anarchism means no rules and socialism is a set of rules.

But the issue with anarchism is that the rule is that there is no rule.  It's kind of an oxymoron.  Anarcho-socialism only makes it more obvious.

Actually anarchy means "no ruler". Anarchists can create and live by any set of rules they desire.

Would this include a rule such as "Ok guys, from now on and during four years, we will obey to XXX" ?
558  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-02-09 On Wikileaks, Bitcoin... on: February 11, 2013, 08:31:16 PM
The issue with anarcho-socialism is that anarchism means no rules and socialism is a set of rules.

But the issue with anarchism is that the rule is that there is no rule.  It's kind of an oxymoron.  Anarcho-socialism only makes it more obvious.
559  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Ce qui cloche avec les banques. on: February 11, 2013, 08:09:44 PM
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Il ne faut pas me lancer sur le sujet des prêts avec intérêts qui sont supposés couvrir le "loyer " de l'argent alors que l'argent est créé ex nihilo par le prêt.
En plus des intérêts, l'emprunteur paye une assurance qui couvre le risque de la banque et de toute façon si le prêt n'est pas remboursé la banque reprend le bien: quel est le risque réel de la banque alors ? Personne ne le connait et c'est là que ça cloche: l'opacité est la source de toutes les dérives..

La banque prend un risque, bien que minime comparait a celui qui empreinte. Le cas c'est presenté durant le crash des subprimes aux USA. Un simple example: Bob empreinte 200k à une banque pour acheter un maison. La banque prends la maison en guise de colateral. Un an plus tard, la crise des subprimes fait ses dégats et le prix de l'immobilier dégringole. La maison ne vaut maintenant plus que 100k. Bob doit toujours une grosse partie du primer (les 200k) et encore beaucoup d'interet. Dans cette situation, il arréte de payer les traites et fait défaut sur son prêt. La banque a maintenant une maison qui vaut 100k au lieu des 200k prêté et presque rien en interet. Dans ce cas la banque à perdu de l'argent et Bob s'en ai finalement bien tirer.

Oui.  C'est le risque de marché, je crois.
560  Local / Discussions générales et utilisation du Bitcoin / Re: Implantation du Bitcoin en France on: February 11, 2013, 06:06:13 PM

/mode sarcasme ON

La France est, avec Cuba et la Corée du Nord, l'un des derniers bastions communistes.  Sa population active est majoritairement constituée de chomeurs et de fonctionnaires, dont les revenus dépendent directement de la capacité de l'Etat à emprunter de la monnaie.  Il est donc normal que les français voient d'un mauvais oeil toute initiative non-étatique dans le domaine monétaire.

/mode sarcasme OFF

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