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541  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 3 things should not be too in trading on: October 19, 2019, 08:50:55 PM
one more, many people said that trading is a game, but i think that's wrong. because if it is a game, traders just do it for have fun, not serious to do
so, having perspective trading is like game should not do by traders. because wrong perspective can affect so much in the trading OFC
trading must treat like a bussines. focuss, accountable, keep learning, patience, hard work, research
542  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Ico average maturity date? on: October 19, 2019, 08:31:11 PM
There is no exact date, depend on the ICO which invested


to be honest, i really dont recommend to invest in ICO, many scam ICOs from 2018-now, you may just get lose your money in ICOs
if you wanna invest in new coins, i prefer to invest in binance IEO, it has more opportunity to get profit
or the last option, you choose the coin already in the market, pick top ten coinmarketcap
543  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Technical Analysis Bullshit or Not? on: October 19, 2019, 08:14:41 PM
I think technical analysis is sometimes bullshi and sometimes not, many traders are profitable because of technical analysis, there are also traders who lose due to technical analysis. In trading at least technical analysis can help you where you need to make a buy order. Regardless of how well you make technical analysis, cryptocurrency is volatile, there is still a possibility that your technical analysis moves against market values.
even when technical analysis goes wrong way, it doesnt mean bullshit. many technical analysis book/ article said that it is just tool to help. not saying 100% right
in technical anlysis also teaches about stoploss, how/when we must set stop loss when we goes wrong way, so we never get big loss again because of stoploss
that's why i believe in technical anaylisis and use it to trade cryptocurrency
544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dont be surprised if ETH hits 4000$ on: October 19, 2019, 04:29:11 PM
im never surprised if top 10 coins will go crazy pump, but that's just happen on altseason. if not altseason i think it's never happen
altseason makes many people think unrelistically, just FOMO and FOMO, even on shitcoin can pump easily
so, it's not hard if good coin can make a crazy pump

545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: About New Altcoin's on: October 19, 2019, 04:08:03 PM
It is getting almost impossible to recognise a scam altcoin directly at the beginning, because nowadays, every project has almost a finished project, a good whitepaper and a real team. Only with some time, you will mention some strange team decisions and based on them it can be revealed that this project is a scam.

Scam project don't really have their product done, they're just faking it so good, so the investors won't see differences between the real one. So, before investing we have to join the group chat and ask everything that we want to know instead of just reading their timeline on whitepapers
asking dev doesnt mean you will get good answer. the dev can lie to all investor to attract their money
so we are better to read whitepaper, do our own research, follow the progress. that's can lower risk to risk our money
but, im myself affraid of investing in new coin. i prefer to choose the trust one like top 10 altcoin

546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are u buying alts? on: October 19, 2019, 03:48:52 PM
of course I still buy some Altcoin at this time for the long term time, even though I currently buy Altcoin at a time when market conditions are still unstable but I still believe that there will be a big pump in the coming year. so how about you?

I think not this year, btc will held halving next year. I think people are waiting to the price pump and hype.
So it's better to buy them now and take the result next year
based on two last halving, halving makes bitcoin price going to down. that's the phase of halving
then one year after halving, all coin is going to crazy pump. so, in this case, we need to hold at least 2 year, which is 2021
but the main problem is, not all coin can survive in 2 year. many chance that coin goes to trash, scam
so, i think i's better to buy on that altcoin season. it has lower risk than buying now
that's long term opinion, not a short term opinion
547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Alt coins price at bull run on: October 19, 2019, 03:26:59 PM
yes i believe that in bull run condition, altcoin will go up drastically, even no one can predict its peak
I do not see that condition to happen this time around, when the bitcoin rally started in 2017 there were many new investors in the market who had no idea about the market and there was a pump in all the coins mainly from investors who missed the bitcoin rally and they might have invested in the altcoin market and hence we saw that rally but i highly doubt we will see a huge rally in altcoin this time.

the last bull run (altseason) happened in the end of 2017, many coins are going crazy even shitcoin was pump too
i hope altseason happen again 1 year after halving, same as last altseason which happened 1 year after halving
If there is a rally i will be glad to sell off all the coins i am hoarding, i am waiting patiently for a long time to sell off everything as i am in a heavy loss after the crash.
i just replied what OP said, i believe it can happen if in bull run

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Eth I think 1000$ easy
Bch  500$ easy
Xrp    not sure
Ltc     not sure

so sad hear your loss, i suggest you to use stop loss in all your investment. so you never get heavy loss anymore
it's very important for those who has coin, must be clear when to sell and still hold. dont hold without any clear reason
548  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: i failed in day trading on: October 19, 2019, 06:44:28 AM
Theoretically, stock trading and crypto trading is not much different
there is a huge different on them . crypto is highly unstable but stocks are not really that high ( correct me if im wrong )

but when it comes into real practice, it would look very different and this is not a big problem.
yes its different just like what i said earlier. that isnt a big problem if you know how to handle both assets. 
all of us are not perfect . failed is a general term for everyone but this is not a reason to not continue.  just keep on practicing and applying what you practice and you will become a better trader at the long run

Basically how the trading works is the same, buy low - sell high. That's why I say not different.

Practicing is not enough if you don't learn the mistakes you already made. Learning and Practicing are two inseparable things
so, selling peanut is same with trading. buy low - sell high Grin
Both crypto and stock trading isnt same, they have different volality, different volume, different regulation, OFC it will be different strategy to do


day trading is hard to do in stock trading, you may try to do long term trading. i think you will get profit with that strategy.
check this :
Why long-term investing is more profitable than short-term trading
549  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Poloniex is leaving Circle - Discussion on: October 19, 2019, 06:20:07 AM
I'm not sure with this decision leaving US market, i have some reasons
1. US market is Big market. even the first crypto trader is on the US
2. Poloniex has no clear strategy to compete with giant exchanges in the world

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Being a somewhat trusted exchange in the US market may have been the only advantage they had over international exchanges. With this change in strategy, there’s no clear way for Poloniex to compete.
550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bad days for crypto on: October 18, 2019, 11:13:43 PM
at least, this year is better than last year. 2018 is very very bad year for crypto, many coins are going to low and lower
even no one knows where is the bottom. this year seems to try recovering price, it is struggling started with bitcoin
the altcoin is still in bad condition, i think alt recovery happens far from now
551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Alt coins price at bull run on: October 18, 2019, 10:47:53 PM
yes i believe that in bull run condition, altcoin will go up drastically, even no one can predict its peak
the last bull run (altseason) happened in the end of 2017, many coins are going crazy even shitcoin was pump too
i hope altseason happen again 1 year after halving, same as last altseason which happened 1 year after halving
552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin is the sleeping giant on: October 18, 2019, 10:22:59 PM
not only litecoin, but also other alt is on sleeping now. even on top 10 cmc is still same condition
we wait the alt party which is called altseason. in that season, many altcoin include top 10 currency can pump drastically
when altseason happen still debated by many people, last altseason is end 2017. that's 1 year after halving
so the halving and 1 year more in the future happen in 2021. i hope the hstory repeat itself
553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum goes to the top! on: October 18, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
So far ethereum on downtrend, lower low and lower high, on lower than 200MA position. it's clear that it will be dip and dipper
we have important support on 165$, if break down so will be down drastically and confirmed descending triangle pattern

554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: bitcoin and alts on: October 18, 2019, 07:43:30 PM
Altcoin will move down if bitcoin increases its price. But don't worry because altcoin will start green when bitcoin is stable at the highest price. then this is the chance for altcoin to move up if bitcoin is sideaway or stable. So I thought if bitcoin had experienced the highest price and remained there and only had a slight correction to return to the highest frame, then the chance pump for altcoin could not be avoided anymore
altcoin will start green when bitcoin is stable at the highest price. so, altcoin is never pump bcz we all know that bitcoin isnt stable Grin
i have different opinion, altcoin will pump when bitcoin marketcap decreases in price and dominance toward altcoin. so altcoins market cap can increase because of it
we can learn from crazy pump on last 2017 ago, bitcoin just has 30-40% dominance, so the another is altcoin ofc
555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Time to Sell Altcoins on: October 18, 2019, 07:26:32 PM
The important thing is we must know what strategy do we use, because it can tell us when we sell of our altcoin
example we do long term trade with MA indicator, then set 200MA, if price break up MA then buy, break down MA then sell
that's just little example of how we use stragey with indicator to know when we sell
556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ieo-s and Profit on: October 18, 2019, 06:55:01 PM
Enthusiastic people against IEO is still high compared to the ICO. Because it is more profitable than ICO.
However, I am still hesitant to now because the market conditions are very bad. Maybe if the market has improved will bring more profit to IEO.

But if you compared IEO right now with ICO in 2017-2018
The hyped is much more in ICO, everyone investing in any ICO that they see, but ICO era ended badly.
The compare must be fair, compared IEO and ICO present, dont compare present with past bcz of not fair
IEO especially from binance, works well with many coins are going to more than 2x (200%), even there is 10x (1000%) from its ATH
ICO is very bad, it is rarely to get many invesment, no exchanges, scammer, or any bad thing. that's why he/she said that IEO is more profitable than ICO
557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin price recovery on: October 18, 2019, 01:23:10 PM
I think altcoin price movements have begun to experience price increases because market conditions have begun to improve so as much as possible you should prepare yourself to be able to enjoy the benefits that you can get when the condition of altcoin prices has recovered.
what do you mean of improvement market condition?
as far i know, altcoin still looks so bad right now, there is no sign that altcoin will be recover
i use altcoin marketcap, from june-now the cap tend to goes down, that's why i say altcoin still looks bad
558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are u buying alts? on: October 18, 2019, 01:07:26 PM
i often hear "altszn" "altszn" "altszn" "altszn" in many discussion about cryptocurrency, but that's never happen in reality
altcoin marketcap is very low compared with bitcoin, around 30:70. it's hard for altcoin to pump drastically if just having that marketcap
the scenario is, bitcoin price goes down then altcoin can go pump
The trend has already changed a lot. Bitcoin goes down and altcoin goes down but when bitcoin goes up and altcoin too. As far as i know, this is the trend that is happening right now.
Altcoin will increase when bitcoin gets the stable chart. I meant about you will no see any volatility in the bitcoin market and that gives a chance for altcoin to catch the bitcoin traders.  
we talk about altseason that is about very drastic pump happening, if just small volality like as 10-50% that is not been altseason
i think that's what is happening now, just small volality in bitcoin and altcoins, even they looks worse tend to goes down
idk that will happen temporary or not, but i personally hope that altszn will be coming
559  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Top bitcoin trading strategies on: October 18, 2019, 12:33:08 PM
My choice is to hold Bitcoin for the future gain, I think this holding has a little bit risky in comparison to the others strategies, You can trade if you have guts and huge capital, also you require a lot of time in order to make the profit from trading, not only that but also you have to gain a lot of speculation regarding the market, but in holding Bitcoin, You don't need anything like this, only hold Bitcoin and mark the price what you want then sell your Bitcoin, that is complete, But in others procedures, you must invest money and time both, also you need to be worried about the situation what's going on. so keep calm and hold your Bitcoin for your future returns.
Nope, trading doesnt need huge capital, we can use small capital and get better profit than holding if we are good at it
IMO holding bitcoin isnt easy as it seems, we still need to check how is going on with our coin. we read news about bitcoin, read how communities going on, read developer works, etc
that's needed if we wanna make a good holding strategies
560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Before I Invest With Cryptoqurrency? on: October 17, 2019, 07:48:45 PM
1. Check the overall contents of the project such as a team, road map, white paper, etc.
2. Check various features offered by the project such as privacy coins or decentralized coins.
3. Check how valuable the coins are or compare with other more popular coins. if the coins have potential, of course have a multi-professional team & the volume of coins always increases.
4. To be honest, the best coins to invest are the top coins or have been listed in the top 10 at CMC.
5. I suggest you invest in established coins rather than looking for very young and newly planted coins to invest.

how about you guys?
those are the fundamental aspect on how we choose the good coins
fundamental analysis is good for long term investing, but i dont want long term investing in crypto because of its volatity

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I say this because I personally don't have a high risk appetite, so it's better to invest safely ..
crypto is so volatile, man. it has very high risk for investing compared with stock, bond, deposit, etc.
even you said that you dont wanna take high risk, you are in wrong investment object man.
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