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541  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Klondike] Case design thread for K16 on: June 06, 2013, 06:13:19 PM
Might be good to consolidate all our various extra Klondike threads to one.

1. Casings
2. Controllers
3. PSUs and cabling
4. Firmware  / Mining Software
5. Miscellaneous
6. DIY Build information
7. Pricing and sourcing of PCB, BOM, etc.
8. Heat sinks and cooling


Yikes, can you imagine the noise in that thread with all the different topics. Methinks this might/should turn into its own subforum.

No not really... better to have slow and fast together... one repository. Harder to follow all these different threads especially with some of these get buried and lost especially with all the hate mail BFL threads messing up this subforum.

I'd prefer we house all the best information for the Klondike build in one thread.

+1 this is better than having that in the main thread...  but "4. Firmware  / Mining Software" would probably belong to main thread... dunno...

another idea could be spin off per topic threads, and getting bkk to list them in the OP of the main thread.  OR make a new master thread started by someone quite invested in Klondike (im looking at you Bicknellski  Roll Eyes ) . Where the first post can be summary of options, etc as the discussions continue. That way a new comer can simply read one place with links to individual threads if needed.

Having everything in one place has some drawbacks also. I may not be interested in all topics listed. For example im following the case topic simply out of curiosity and will not be interested if it gets information overload. I will most likely not use a case.  Im not worried much about topics sinking deep since i "watch" posts...
542  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Klondike] Case design thread for K16 on: June 06, 2013, 05:49:18 PM

Google tells me
http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coolinnovations.com%2Fincludes%2Fimages%2Fcomponents%2Fslideshow%2Fthumbs%2FFlared_III_Large.jpg&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US

I think better to remove link to them.
543  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Debian packages for cgminer on: June 06, 2013, 05:34:52 PM
You could also use an Open Suse Builder service (OBS), if it has the arm arch and debian release, or set your own, but that will be more difficult i think than cross compiling on your own computer.

Interesting.
I am now using launchpad for building ubuntu packages. Just need to upload source deb. Takes hours for a build, but i can build 100% compatible packages for various releases of ubuntu without thinking about dependencies, etc... if it got built there, its likely to get installed without any fuss on target release.

OBS looks interesting. but... https://build.opensuse.org/monitor  they seem to be missing armv6l
544  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary on: June 06, 2013, 05:25:42 PM
Seen some talks about wr703 - its a nice litte router. but you should REALLY check this out too!:
http://8devices.com/carambola & http://8devices.com/carambola-2

At 33 Euros, it's hardly cheap and that's WITHOUT a case and power supply far as I can tell. It doesn't take too much CPU power to mine.

id rather go with a pi. Costs $45 - 50, but you have a device with 512 MB RAM. (~490 MB usable). You can put all sorts of things on it like monitoring, etc. Doesnt make sense to me to save a few bucks one would use 32/64MB devices...especially when this is a small fraction of the overall expense...

Perhaps talk of host machines is polluting the thread? This thread should be about Klondike ...

Maybe another alternative thread for everything non K1 , K16 board specific?

Heat sinks, casing, host controllers fans etc? Need a lot of info to gather in one spot for people like me that need all the help they can get on this DIY build.

Yeah.. i think we should not bother bkk with such trivial things as host controller. Perhaps hijack the case thread for the alternative purposes. host controller in fact is applicable to all DIY projects in general. AFAIK all plan on having USB interface. As far as Klondike is concerned i think bkk has made it clear that it will have USB interface, and it will be cgminer controled. So basically anything that has cgminer and USB is fine from perspective of Klondike.
545  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary on: June 06, 2013, 05:00:35 PM
Seen some talks about wr703 - its a nice litte router. but you should REALLY check this out too!:
http://8devices.com/carambola & http://8devices.com/carambola-2

At 33 Euros, it's hardly cheap and that's WITHOUT a case and power supply far as I can tell. It doesn't take too much CPU power to mine.

id rather go with a pi. Costs $45 - 50, but you have a device with 512 MB RAM. (~490 MB usable). You can put all sorts of things on it like monitoring, etc. Doesnt make sense to me to save a few bucks one would use 32/64MB devices...especially when this is a small fraction of the overall expense...

Perhaps talk of host machines is polluting the thread? This thread should be about Klondike ...
546  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.2.0 on: June 06, 2013, 03:02:29 PM
Using cgminer on windows 7

Drivers installed with zadig as described and can view in device manager

I set up a .bat file and I when I try to run it, it flashes on the screen and automatically closes. Says "-S unrecognized option" Any ideas why?  I unchecked "hide extensions for all file types" as instructed when creating a .bat file.

My text in the bat file reads as follows: (replacing user/pass with xxx/yyy)

C:\cgminer\cgminer-nogpu.exe -o http://rr.btcmp.com:8332 -u xxx -p yyy d --icarus-options 115200:1:1 --icarus-timing 3.0=100 -S //./COM3

The pathway is correct.  Can anyone see any problems?  Only 1 miner plugged into usb port. Thanks!

Use version 3.1.1 for Icarus/Lancelot/Erupter devices.  I thought it suppose to be -S \\.\COM3

Tried v3.1.1, tried / & \ both ways.  Still same thing.

In addition.  When I start cgminer-nogpu.exe manually, enter my pool/user/pass...  It says this:

http://db.tt/5LSsuujs

Any help?

if u used 3.2.0 and then tried to go back to 3.1.1 , make sure u unplug and re-plug the device . atleast on linux you have to...
547  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: June 06, 2013, 02:48:20 PM
If you don't daisy chain them, you can connect up to 127 devices and I think 5 hubs to one usb controller. It is best to use the lower port on the raspberrypi, as people have had some trouble with the top port recognizing some devices. (not sure why, but mine does it too)

No offence, but it sounds like these boards might be over your skill level as this is a pretty basic question and I don't think he is going to set up the pi's for plug and play.

Unrelated/offtopic, but this explains a lot! im using 2 hubs in raspi, and the devices connected to the  hub connected to upper port occasionally has issues!  ill try to dasychain to the lower port hub.

Just checked lower port hub is the one with issues.
548  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: USB 300MH/S ASICMiner Value Question on: June 06, 2013, 02:44:50 PM
Using the usb code isn't difficult ... but don't expect 5Mhz Smiley
At 50Mhz you will drain more than the 500mA of an usb port.

Loop are rolled : 6 hashers, so do your math :

At 50Mhz : 6 / 128 * 50 = 2.34MH/s

128 parce 64 round de sha * 2
Wink


the 5 MH/s figure i just pulled out of thin air to illustrate even if ur over optimistic, this is still a shitty deal.
549  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMiner/BFGMiner API Question about DEV & DEVDETAILS and mapping on: June 06, 2013, 02:39:15 PM

In the response for "devdetails" I get the property "ID" for every device. For my GPU its 0. Where do you see the ID in the response for dev command?


Maybe they dont have the per item ID if its only one device... or  maybe something for GPU.

For FPGA :-
{"command": "devs"} : http://pastie.org/private/iprck8etln9dhpgh8ibuq
{"command": "devdetails"} : http://pastie.org/private/xxflvwbemisy5hqhjsyvq

550  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Debian packages for cgminer on: June 06, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
In case you care, there is a tutorial on compiling ffmpeg for raspberrypi, as it s require that you install a cross compiling toolchain it s perfect for compiling other things Smiley

http://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/How%20to%20compile%20FFmpeg%20for%20Raspberry%20Pi%20%28Raspbian%29

Interesting. This is a detailed guide... for cross compile noobs like me.

Was skiming over something earlier to hook in dpkg-buildpackage with crosscompile-ng will see if it works . if so then .deb creation process will probably be quick on my i7... want to use .deb that way when i can make and maintain init scrips, udev rules, etc.
551  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMiner/BFGMiner API Question about DEV & DEVDETAILS and mapping on: June 06, 2013, 12:40:25 PM
My intention was to find the way to map/link the devices received from "dev" command to the devices received from "devdetails" command. Both commands reply an array of devices that should includes all connected devices to the miner and not just one like the "pga" "gpu" command. However, I now use the way to get all devices from "devdetails" and then request the additional data by the "cpu","gpu","pga" command.

both dev and devdetails have the ID paramater.
552  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Quick question, 32 bit or 64 bit on: June 06, 2013, 12:23:05 PM

If you are talking windows maybe. But we are talking Linux, and it is my understanding that 32bit Linux doesn't have the 4gig limit. I suspect that they use some type of memory paging scheme to get around the limit. Also, mining programs are not mining intensive so even is your do lose RAM space to GPUs it is still viable. If you are USB mining, your are only limited by the USB controller's ability to handle a certain number of devices. I've read here that adding PCI USB cards can get around that problem since they have their own controllers.

Regardless, 32 vs 64 doesn't seem to be an issue. I suspect that, with the right software a 16 bit machine could be a viable miner if it wasn't a power hog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#Linux

But.. srsly it looks like a ugly hack. Stick with 64-bit if your cpu supports it. Better support also.

Each USB bus can have 127 devices. AFAIK doesnt vary by controllers ability. You just have to provide enough power to it... Some controllers have 4 ports on a single bus, meaning they internally have a 4-port hub attached, so now per port can support fewer devices, but the total for the bus is still 127. The PCI USB cards have their own bus(es).
553  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: June 06, 2013, 10:41:18 AM
Well, I feel underwhelmed as folks here are showing off ASICS...  Undecided

Anyway, Here’s my rig:
 
4 x MSI R7950 Twin Frozr III cards
 
Seasonic 1000W Platinum PSU
 
ASROCK 970 Extreme4 ATX Motherboard
 
1 x PCI-e x1 to x1 powered riser
 
3 x PCI-e x16 to x16 unpowered risers
 
4GB DDR3 RAM
 
120GB 2.5” HDD
 
AMD AM3+ Temash single-core CPU
 
Tubular square steel open chassis
 
Plexiglas baseplate
 
Windows 7 x64 Professional
 
CGMiner, VNC & Afterburner
 
 
 
Mines BTC @ 2.1GH/s pulling 850-900 watts from the wall
 
Total cost: about $1800-$1850

One of these days, (probably after ROI) i'll swap the PSU out for a 1200W unit and add another card. I should have bought a 1200 from the start.

Woow ... Looks almost like a piece of art presented in a museum!
Very beautiful indeed!!  Smiley

   Al the best of luck

      one4many

(future) Tour guide: This exhibit shows how pre-historic savage humans used to mine our money. Once upon a time Bitcoins were "mined" by these ancient devices. To put things in perspective, one single nanobot cell in your blood could have mined all the Bitcoins in existence.
Tourist: LOL WUT?
554  Economy / Auctions / Re: [48 HR Auction] Ztex-Like 1.15y FPGA - Not Mining on: June 06, 2013, 08:15:47 AM
Well... if you hook it to linux (live CD/USB is fine also), and give me ssh access, i could try and test it or update firmware for you... for a tip.
555  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: June 06, 2013, 07:35:13 AM
Interesting I have not thought of this. I was planning on running mine off my laptop. Will I be able to run it of my laptops power or will I need a PSU?

Edit: Im only getting one 20 chip board.

burnin stated in the first post that the 20 chips board will consume ~40Watts @ 12 Volts. So yes, if you have a Laptop PSU thats rated 40+ Watts at 12 Volt, it shouldn't be a problem.

you can re-purpose laptop PSU for this (provided it does 40W), but u cant run it off your laptop's power. USB port provides 0.5A @5V = 2.5W which is slightly below the 40W requirement...
556  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC chips order questions on: June 05, 2013, 10:44:38 PM

so noone of the group buys have received any chips yet?

You want to buy and didnt even check the product description in the shop?

If you did... no single batch arrived yet, not even the sample chips.
557  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary on: June 05, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
http://squonk42.github.io/TL-WR703N/  <--- if you need Reverse-Engineering work on the TL-WR703N 150M 802.11n Wi-Fi Router. Imagine that mashup? K16 meets TL-WR703N?

Funny you should mention it, I bought an extra WR703 as well, on the off chance that somebody finds a way to make that work. Shouldn't be difficult for a skilled programmer, but I'm a break/fix kinda guy. Never had much going for me in the 'creativity' department.  Undecided

If it doesn't work out, I have plenty of uses for these things, so it won't go to waste.
Where would you recommend getting the TL-WR703N from ?
 
aliexpress.com for all things chinese.
558  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Question for Jalapeno 5GH/s Owners on: June 05, 2013, 10:07:16 PM
would make no difference IMHO. A Jalapeno wont even know if its mining BTC or TRC ..
559  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB on: June 05, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
These bitches are selling @ $450 right now on eBay.  I bet they'll stay that way until Avalon's chips are released.

And yet, we'll still hear economic illiterates claiming they are "overpriced."  Despite the market (loudly and firmly) saying otherwise, these buffoons believe their special little cheapskate beggar opinions truly outweigh the collective decision of all the actual buyers and sellers in an unprecedentedly free and low friction economy.   Roll Eyes

I am an economic illiterate and even i know that the price of something is the price market is willing to pay for it. People complaining here are just butthurt cause its not the price they are willing to pay.
560  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Selling my chips from SebantianJu 2nd batch (280 chips) on: June 05, 2013, 06:46:45 PM
So, i pay  SebastianJu  the price for your spot or pay you?

Can you post a signed message here to proove that you own the chips?
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