If Antminer a9 Antminer S9 generates about 0.3 bitcoins per month, which is about 4000 us$, why people talks about 300us$ incoming per month??
Who told you an S9 could generate 0.3 Bitcoins per month? They lied. You'd be lucky to see 0.06 per month and you'd have a utility bill of ~$100 (if $0.10/kWh for electricity). That's providing the difficulty stays were it is for a couple of adjustment periods... which doesn't happen very often. |
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So anyone buying their other half or family members some BTC for Christmas?
I've given each of the progeny (3 kids, 2 inlaws, 2 grandkids) 1 BTC each of the last three xmases. I see no reason to divert. This year, they'll be wrapped in Ledger Nano Ss. O.k. I understand that each of us have our proclivities for generousity, or not, but that sounds financially ridiculous for normal people. I am presuming that you and I have similar quantities of bitcoin, and it seems ridiculous to me to give away gifts that are valued at about 40x more than they were two years ago and three years ago - merely because it is your tradition to give away the unit value of bitcoin, but bitcoin is measured in terms of dollars - and 40x just seems too outrageous. Awww come on JJG lighten up. The man can do what he wants with his Bitcoin and it's family for crying out loud! I'm going to go out on a limb and say that jbreher doesn't fall into the financially normal category anyway. edit: to correct grammatical error |
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Just found a stack of paper wallets from 2015. I was giving away 0.05 Bitcoi in each and these were the leftovers. It’s a nice find I didn’t know I had it....
Yep. All of a sudden scrap amounts become real money. It is kind of bullshit, though, regarding how some of these people treat their gifts, and I have a few war stories regarding that too. My friend recently contacted me, and told me that he was looking for his son's $40 bitcoin transaction that I had sent for a graduation gift. Mind you I sent $40 to the son and $10 to the dad, in order that they could, perhaps, learn together about bitcoin. The price was around $380 at the time... So, a couple of times a year, I would remind him about bitcoin and ask him if he had retrieved the bitcoin... did it through Circle.... He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, he still has access to the e-mail account, and just a few weeks ago when he contacted me, he asked me if I could recover the coins because he said that he did not have access to the e-mail accounts. The son's value was something like $1,740 and the dads value was something like $440. Crazy. I think that they lost everything, unless they can regain access to their earlier e-mails, perhaps there is a way... I think that it was a private domain e-mail that their family administrator allowed the domain to expire.  |
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Anyone used one of these hubs to run there 2pacs ?
From electrical data should work for two sticks at about 150 to 200 MHz per stick. At least with a corret voltage setting. Thats my experience. This hub has a 24 W power supply. Mine has 30 W and I´m running two sticks at 250 MHz. And thats the absolute limit of my tests that succeded. I'm seeing 12V 3A power supply in the detail of the link. |
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Torque
When I first showed back up you gently, but firmly, advised me not to feed the troll.
I'm here to return the favor.
I'm done. By confronting the troll directly and him not directly answering my question, I think anyone else reading this thread will understand that he's just wasting people's time. But I ask you this then in return, why has he not been perma-banned from the WO thread? Or at least his posts deleted, if we ALL can agree that he's just a troll? Why should we all suffer this idiot whilst he constantly spams the WO thread with his drivel? i second that. infofront, ban him. Why make the decision for the user, there's an ignore button that's just as useful, unless of course s/he manages to get another noob to quote him/her. Infofront doesn't have ban powers anyway. In fact, he's moderator of this thread only so all he can do is chew bubblegum or delete posts and he has a lot of gum. |
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^ I though we were gonna put this in its own thread next timetm
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Maybe because its This time of the year we make a small game Just to call 24777$ (CET) the one with the day of breaking This price wins .25 BTC
The list Will be Made after This post So When a date is taken iT can't been taken again
When the winning date is exactly in the middle of 2 each Will get .25
Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins
LIST MAKING ENDS 25-12-2017 @ 22.00 cet
SOME HAVE TAKEN A DATE THATS ALLREADY OCCUPIED -fluidjax
-vito5
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TAKE DIFFRENT DATE PLEASE , THE DATES YOU GUYS PICKED WERE TAKEN
MANY PAGES BACK I POSTED THAT YOUR MINIMUM ACTIVITY NEEDS TO BE 50+ TO COME ON THE LIST! NO NEW ACCOUNTS GR
Funny how this game mirrors Bitcoin. The fee is 50+ to get confirmed. Can I pretend to be Bcash and sell my spot to a user with less than 50 activity?  Never mind. I'll fork off now. |
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Listen, I know these are difficult times. But let's try to remain civil. Remember why we're here.
To crush souls and steal their money? Yeah, most of us seem to have forgotten. To make sure (((Goldman Sachs))) is left holding the bag on completely valueless, imaginary assets like bitcoin and ethereum while the goyim sell retardedly overvalued craptocurrency to buy up the whole silver and gold market. Do you really think the minnows that hang out here can possibly make even a dent in the PM supply? Maybe you ought to hit up the Winklevoss twins. However, I don't think even they could muster enough to make a dent. Maybe you can get Barry to suddenly change the investment strategy of DCG.  2 billion oz above ground silver = $32 billion bitcoin market cap = $242 billion  Come on man. Peru alone has 120,000 MT of silver reserve. That's 3.85 billion troy ounces. I think your numbers are way off. I'm talking about above ground investment grade silver that can be delivered to market. You're talking about so called "deep storage" silver, which isn't even economical to extract. Even so, you referenced (the largest below ground silver reserve in the world?) and it's only $60.8 billion. But that's like saying trees aren't valuable because I saw a tree over there we haven't cut down and dragged to market yet. It requires two neutron stars colliding to make that silver, so unlike the tree, once that largest in the world silver reserve is gone, you aren't getting another one. And mostly unlike gold, civilization actually needs that silver to function and uses it up all the time. It also might take some astronomical time span like 20 years to extract the silver you referenced, and might cost an order of magnitude higher silver prices for it to happen. When you say the world has so and so amount of silver below ground, the number is meaningless because it might cost $100+ an ounce to extract the stuff you're talking about. No. It's like saying, "there's a tree over there because nobody wants the fuckin' thing and it's not worth their sweat to cut it down.". Anyway, when civilization runs out of mirrors and current year shiny collectible coins, they'll gladly pay $100 per ounce for silver provided that haven't found a way to collide a couple of neutron stars to make some a little more cheaply. |
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Listen, I know these are difficult times. But let's try to remain civil. Remember why we're here.
To crush souls and steal their money? Yeah, most of us seem to have forgotten. To make sure (((Goldman Sachs))) is left holding the bag on completely valueless, imaginary assets like bitcoin and ethereum while the goyim sell retardedly overvalued craptocurrency to buy up the whole silver and gold market. Do you really think the minnows that hang out here can possibly make even a dent in the PM supply? Maybe you ought to hit up the Winklevoss twins. However, I don't think even they could muster enough to make a dent. Maybe you can get Barry to suddenly change the investment strategy of DCG. 2 billion oz above ground silver = $32 billion bitcoin market cap = $242 billion Come on man. Peru alone has 120,000 MT of silver reserve. That's 3.85 billion troy ounces. I think your numbers are way off. edit: World reserves are 1.832593e+10 troy ounces or ~$293,214,880,000 I guess Bitcoin is more desirable than silver right now... but the tables could turn. |
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2011: 1 btc = 1 skateboard
2013: 1 btc = 1 bicycle
2014: 1 btc = 1 moped
2017: 1 btc = 1 fiat
2023: 1 btc = 1 lambo
Yeah but the lambo tx is gonna take until 2030 to confirm. |
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The altcoin market is starting to show a lot of red. This could mean that they are going to crash soon and the money is going to flow to BTC or that they are going to start crashing along side BTC.
Looking at the BTC chart we are stuck in a very well established down channel. I see roughly 4 hits on the support and 4 hits on the resistance. fingers cross we get a bounce off support at 14400, and then a break of resistance at roughly 16000.
One thing that has me concerned about this correction over the other ones this year is the speed. it seems to be a lot slower than the others, I hope this doesn't mean anything.
Well its a possibility but I think maybe a lot of new people coming into alts rather than btc as they see btc as too expensive which means that some not all of them will be thinking long term and ignoring the current price action. I dont think someone which has just invested say in 5 NEO or whatever coin is going to think about selling because the price starts to drop as its not enough of an investment to warrant worrying about smallish price movements in the short term. And I suspect there is a lot of people who have entered the scene but have invested less than a 1000 dollars into X-coin and so will not be thinking about selling anytime soon Also a lot of alts are showing RED because they made significant gains in the past few days so are in a sideways action... Some of them forming bullish pennant flags although like I say in BTC anything can happen FUCK - Egg on my face!!! Total carnage!!!! From now on do yourself a favour and ignore my analysis lol No worries. Could have happened to the best of us. |
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Remember the days when Bitcoin had cheaper fees then visa and western union? I think that used to be a big selling point, the idea of banking for the unbanked or something like that... lol
I remember those days. I was much happier when bitcoin was $1 each. I hate having my bitcoins worth $14,500. Damn you all! I can help you with your pain by buying up your Bitcoins at $1. If that's still too high for you, I could also settle for a lower price. But you'll have to act quickly, my generosity doesn't last forever.  |
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For those who still think that the fee problem will eventually be fixed, read this. This is from Greg Maxwell, probably the most influential developer within the BS/Core group. He is so pleased with the high fees and transaction backlog that he is uncorking champagne to celebrate. The current state of the BTC network is their vision becoming a reality.  What?! He's breaking out the open level countryside? Those Mormons sure do know how to party. Take some notes BobLawblaw! |
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Guys, please don't.
We can occasionally talk about alts, but we have a long standing disgust and disdain for XRP (aka CentralizedPreminedBankerCoin) here that goes back years and years. IMO out of all the shitcoins, Ripple might be the worst. And it just won't die.
Noted! I think almost all of us here are > 80% BTC vs. < 20% alts anyway. So alts rising (or falling) has only fun/news significance (for me at least). Now let's get back to BTC... Personally I don't worry too much (yet) about the drop. It was long overdue and it's a breather for the beast. Looking forward to the next upward surge, which I sense will come VERY soon, it will be BIG, and it will be the new FLOOR for next year's rally to conquer 6-digit-land! Its been a good day for me - managed to increase my BTC holding substantially by selling so many alts - great trading conditions I have some capital sitting on Kraken because I'm waiting for verification and it would be a great time to buy more BTC but... Kraken sucks!!!! Let's be fair. They are slow, like bread turning into toast, but they don't outright steal from people and they don't fuck around with arbitrary withdrawal limits. I am being fair and there is nothing like toast being made at Kraken. This is more like making fossils. |
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Guys, please don't.
We can occasionally talk about alts, but we have a long standing disgust and disdain for XRP (aka CentralizedPreminedBankerCoin) here that goes back years and years. IMO out of all the shitcoins, Ripple might be the worst. And it just won't die.
Noted! I think almost all of us here are > 80% BTC vs. < 20% alts anyway. So alts rising (or falling) has only fun/news significance (for me at least). Now let's get back to BTC... Personally I don't worry too much (yet) about the drop. It was long overdue and it's a breather for the beast. Looking forward to the next upward surge, which I sense will come VERY soon, it will be BIG, and it will be the new FLOOR for next year's rally to conquer 6-digit-land! Its been a good day for me - managed to increase my BTC holding substantially by selling so many alts - great trading conditions I have some capital sitting on Kraken because I'm waiting for verification and it would be a great time to buy more BTC but... Kraken sucks!!!! |
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Good one, I always make that lapsus too... .
Should be this: "Winning has never been about making the most. Winning is about making only one viable product, and then gaslighting people into believing it is the best."
- Tim Cook
Crook it is ! Couldn't help myself! Last one. Promise.  |
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More like Bitcoin is Steve Jobs and BCash is Tim Crook.  |
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Actually, it is to be expected that an empty block is mined if it comes within a minute of the last block. The pools cannot grind to a halt when their node is verifying the transactions of the last block. The verification of all the transactions in the previous block needs to be completed before a pool can start including transactions.(They need to basically remove the included transactions from their mempool.)
No, it's a choice they make and some are worse than others. Bitfury mining pool chooses not to mine empty blocks. Bitfury is also a private pool. So they do not have to be concerned with other miners as they pause after every solved block(that isn't their own.) If I were a miner and had my hash pointed at the pool, and my miner wasn't receiving work for about 20 seconds after almost every block, I would move my hash elsewhere. Fair enough but I wouldn't mine a pool that didn't include the fees in my reward... I guess you would. |
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Sure you can. Just ask your BCash is Bitcoin friends  = higher fees Actually, it is to be expected that an empty block is mined if it comes within a minute of the last block. The pools cannot grind to a halt when their node is verifying the transactions of the last block. The verification of all the transactions in the previous block needs to be completed before a pool can start including transactions.(They need to basically remove the included transactions from their mempool.) No, it's a choice they make and some are worse than others. Bitfury mining pool chooses not to mine empty blocks. |
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870 sat/byte for next-block service according to https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/For the average 500-byte transaction, that's $100 CAD. I actually tried to move coins yesterday. I paid a $40 fee, but then the mempool swelled further, making my offered fee rate unattractive. I waited a few hours without success, and then paid btc.com $300 to accelerate the transaction. It confirmed 2 blocks later. Look who's back. Just go away Let me get this straight first. The average fee was $100 CAD (whatever that is), but he decided to pay $40. Then got impatient and decided to pay another $300. Right now, the fee-rate for next-block service works out to $100 CAD for a 500-byte TX. Yesterday, the fee-rate for next-block service at the time when I made my transaction was $40, which I paid. The mempool then swelled further like I said, making my offered fee rate unattractive. I later chose to use an accelerator service (and pay $300) to get it to confirm quickly, which it did. These are the bcash thought-leaders.
Yes, even I cannot peer into the future to predict whether the fee rate will rise or fall after I send my transaction. Sure you can. Just ask your BCash is Bitcoin friends = higher fees |
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