Theorem:
The soundest form of cryptocurrency shouldn't have to fight for "popularity" amongst others, nor will it. In the long run, sound money is not a popularity contest.
A cryptocurrency's economic/governance model and strength & security of its network should speak for itself, and become self-evident to all involved eventually over time.
Other, lesser cryptocurrencies will eventually wither and die.
Question: Does Gresham's law apply to the world of cryptocurrencies as well? Hmmm...
Also, go Bitcoin!
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Litecoin is really triggering my laziness. I have an old Litecoin wallet from back in the day (way back when I thought having another currency blockchain outside Bitcoin's might have some long term value). It has ~100 or so LTC left in it. But eh... I'm just too damn lazy to fire it up, sync it with the network, and trade my ltc for btc. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Speaking al altcoins, Poloniex seems to be down.
Time for the exchange owners to feign "hack" and run off with the money? Lol
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Well, this thread now is officially dead, I see.
Two pages and aside from one post claiming that bitcoin is skyrocketing, not once I saw anything resembling price observation.
You mean at one time you did? Lol If you want the best charts and analysis, I hear MattD is over there nailing it in his thread. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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We going to see 1100.00 today? I think so. Any positive news is always good ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) we need it Yes, the positive news is that the "Great Alt Bait-n-Switch Pump-N'-Dump of 2017" is now coming to a close. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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The funny thing about countries "officially recognizing" Bitcoin as a method of payment is pretty facetious. So they "recognize officially" something that they don't have control over anyway, and the "recognition" part is just a promise to regulate and tax the transactions. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) "Hey Bob, I see you're using potatoes as a form of money instead of fiat currency. That hasn't been an official form of money in the past, but we're gonna "officially recognize" it for you now. So you have to file a bunch of forms we have to approve first before we can allow you to trade for potatoes. And oh yeah btw, we're gonna need you to pay us 20% of the 'cost basis' of your potatoes for every transaction." Wow. Just wow. Fuck that.
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$22B in Gold found?
Yawn.
The U.S. Fed prints $85B /month.
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as for litecoin, it at least offers something and is bug free. i may not go to $50 but the Chinese have proven that they go crazy when they pump litecoin.
Umm, you're forgetting the Chinese miners and exchanges that have literally millions of LTC they have mined and saved up over the last 4 years..... ready to dumpity dump dump LTC right back into the ground on any sustained rise. Ya think they are just going to sit on those coins foeva?
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Mostly agree, but Bitcoin is not invincible.
Right now it is on the decline in terms of marketshare and utility, and major companies like Dell and Fiverr stopped accepting it, so we're possibly going backwards in terms of adoption.
Does this not concern you?
Concern me enough to think that a shitcoin up-and-comer could do better? Or even get to where Bitcoin is now? And do it soooo effortlessly, without all the trials and tribulations that Bitcoin has already gone through? Nah, I'm a lot brighter than that. This is what n00bs will end up doing if they keep jumping off one train (Bitcoin) for another supposedly "better" altcoin, because they don't think that things are moving fast enough in Bitcoin land. And they will continuously lose money and fail each time they do it. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLBXFSGe.gif&t=663&c=9pY5eqHLV7TN-w) Remember, a new form of worldwide money, if is to be successful, will need to be around for decades. DECADES. Not just a year or two. DECADES.
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I guest all of you geniuses that have divested into every shitcoin imaginable have never cared about things like merchant adoption, global acceptance, and all that, you know, really important cryptocurrency stuff. Only ONE coin is talked about most in the worldwide news. Only ONE coin has the MOST merchant adoption (hell, 99.99999% of alts have ZERO). Only ONE coin has anyone even TRYING to get it considered for an ETF. Only ONE coin has been around for 8 years, still going strong, the price higher than it has every been in its history. Only ONE coin has wealthy people buying millions of $$$ worth as a long term investment : https://gemini.com/auction-data/Only ONE coin is being traded around the world on EVERY exchange. Only ONE coin is being bought vigorously off-exchange around the world: https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoinsAnd that coin is Bitcoin. Everything else is a wannabe for troll trading fodder. History will prove this out.
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The FUD news of this week (prepare for 100% FUD) -India bans Bitcoin -SEC denied Solid X ETF -Miners planning an attack on bitcoin when they reach 51% BU blocks -Altcoins keep pumping so more kapital leaves btc -BU keeps increasing -CORE blocks keep decreasing -exchanges prepairing for a hardfork -BTC crypto dominance keeps decreasing -Litecoin's volume is almost 50% of bitcoin's volume Looks like haters have infinite FUD guys.. BU UNLIMITED = FUD UNLIMITED. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Haven't you heard? It's what's for dinner! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi247.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg152%2Fbfeagin%2FFunny%2Ffud.jpg&t=663&c=hrUJPxXC6acrTg)
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Careful BBZ, if you try to expose the truth around here, you'll just get hazed to death for being some kind of wackjob conspiracy theorist. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) They (miners, whales, troll traders) need the illusion of ' independent market forces' to appear as the reality, so the populous of crypto enthusiasts (esp newbies) can easily be swayed by emotion and be easily parted from their $$. That's why the first thing that unsuspecting newbs ask when some random altcoin gets pumped is, "Have the fundamentals for this coin changed? Is there something I should know about?" And of course, there's always someone there to give them some plausible but equally random answer. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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This last week has been exhausting....
(.... hitting the damn Ignore link for every newb troll account with less than 100 posts...phew!)
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The fact of the matter is fuck "average joe" - we do not need to aim for getting "average joe" in order to achieve significant and meaningful s-curve adoption.
Well if you truly believe this, then your definition of 's-curve adoption' of Bitcoin is WAY narrower than most. When I think of s-curve, I think of PC adoption. Or cell phone adoption. Or Facebook adoption. Which most certainly includes "Average Joe", which comprises like 80-90% of those adoption levels.
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We still got a lot of year left.
I still predict ~$1600 by year end. $4K by end of 2020. And there is no s-curve in bitcoin
hahahaha .. see above... I added a little content to your statement to make it more accurate with your previous disclosed underlying views. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Depends on what you call 's-curve adoption', or what the definition is, of this kind of disruptive technology. For example, would you say that Bittorrent has gone through an 's-curve adoption'? This depends on who you ask. Some would say that the growth model shows an 's-curve' and thus it has. But then just go ask the Average Joe on the street if they have ever used Bittorrent, much less heard of it, and they would say 'no'. So if getting every able Average Joe in the world to have access and to buy some bitcoin and spend it is 's-curve adoption', then we may perhaps never get there.
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On this exact date:
ETH = ~$52 BTC = ~$1035
Let's pull this post up at the end of the year (12/30/2017), and see which one did better. Shall we?
(oh that's right, you'll be long gone by then)
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We still got a lot of year left.
I still predict ~$1600 by year end. $4K by end of 2020.
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No, you seem like a bitcoin maximalist. Eth has its own market, and about half, depending on day, is traded in fiat.
So instead of spending time in the Eth forum, you're spending it here instead. You seem desperate to get Bitcoin users to buy Eth. Wonder why the desperation?
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Sorry but Im kinda confused, and haven't really been paying much detailed attention to the technicalities of bitcoin. I know that a hard fork in the protocol can have negative effects on the price and that bitcoin has taken a hit lately from its high. Kind of thinking of selling some of my bitcoins and going into altcoins like ETH. Trying to get some advice on if this would be a good game plan until the technicalities get sorted out with the hard fork. thanks in advance!
Concern-trolling at an ATH!
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If you just wanted to make $$$ short term, the time to have bought in Altlandia was last year. When no one wanted it or cared. If you are getting onboard now 'cause hype and "dur hur alts winning, Bitcoin failing dur hur", we'll I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed. Short term perception <> long term reality. I'll just leave this here: http://altcoinobituaries.com/
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