No spooderman, wait for $120 coins!  On second thought, just wait for $85 coins! 

Yep, I'm sure we'll get there, and then Shroomie is right --- we'll just magically start rising from there!  Because magical rises always start to happen after a market has been completely devastated for a solid year.  Right?  Riiight???

Isn't it great how every single poll on this thread has been dead wrong for 6 months straight now?

Apple Pay, a proprietary service on a proprietary device that only 682 million people out of the world even own, to take over the world?  Compared to Android that has an install base of 1.9 Billion?

Yeah right.   

What like, since 2012 at $10?  So if bitcoin today is going to have (and retain) value to be the currency of the future, what value do you think it should be at?

Down... and down..... and down.... and down.... and down.... and down.... for 12 fkn months straight.  With no bottom in sight.

REALLY LAUGHABLY STUPID.

And unprecedented in the bitcoin market since its existence, or virtually any market for that matter.

This market is becoming laughably stupid.  From $658 to $336 in just 4 months?  

Glad I stopped buying bitcoin months ago, saved my ego from even more despair and anguish.

So thankful that the money of the future that everyone wants can really hold its value.  /S

Good fkn god.  Can anyone, I mean anyone, who is a buy-and-hodl person buy a SINGLE bitcoin in the year 2014 and NOT be in the red the following week/month?

Money of the future?  Jesus fk.  No wonder people are now leaving the bitcoin community and not coming back.

Why am I not surprised to still see sub-400.  This market is just ridiculous.  It seems apathy is setting in now, even with people who were once bulls.

I guess no one even cares to buy more now?

Because only whales have the ability to dump 1000 BTC at a time, and not Joe Public?  So no, not really "people"?

'Cause whales playing 'whale wars' and not Joe Public?

I fkn knew it.  This 2-day rise to 400 was fake.

Yeah, and price pegged to some meaningless number ($391.59, lol)

Whales Wars.  That's all this stupid market is now.  Joe Public doesn't give a rats ass about bitcoin, and won't until a new artificial rally gets created again by the whales.

Yep.  The other think people forget is also the constant downward pressure of early adopters, miners, and whales.  Of course it is a good thing that they sell a little on the way up, as wider distribution will hopefully create a less volatile market.  But the fact remains that any selling along the way by early adopters, miners, and whales will constantly slow the progress to a higher exchange rate, as their rate of selling (and not buying back at same price) will likely throttle up and down to match the public demand (as well as increasing hashrate, slowing inflation, etc.)

Imagine if, starting today, 95% of the world's gold or diamond mines and reserves were in the hands of like a 1000 people (and before gold & diamonds were even deemed to be all that "valuable" by the populous).  It would take a longer time for a wider distribution of gold or diamonds to occur throughout the world populous and still have a steady climb in yearly exchange rate.

21 BTC being worth a total of $1-2M in 3-5 years?  Very, highly doubtable.  You'll be lucky if the exchange value is $10-20K per BTC in 5 years.  But who knows, maybe the world will have fallen in love with bitcoin by that time and demand grows crazy.

And I still don't think you'll be able to hold them all that long.  99% can't or won't.  Please be the exception! 

I like how no one on this thread so far cares about posting timeframes.  Likely because the majority here think in terms of months, not years.  Blame the ADD generation.

Dafar, if you hold those coins for 20 years then Yes I guarantee that you'll be rich.  Maybe sooner.  Maybe even in 10 years.  But I'd bet my life you won't have it in you to hold them for that long.  You'll sell some the first time you think that you need some money (e.g., college, car, house, stupid wedding, frivolous purchase, whatever).  And you'll have sold them all long before 20 years have passed.  And you will be regretting it, telling all your friends and family "Man, if I had just held..."

If you're thinking that you'll be rich in 6 months, 12 months, or even 24 months, then No.

Negative.  Million dollar bitcoin pumps did not happen by n00bs.  It attracted the masses, yes, but were no initiated by them.

The U.S. stock market was being pumped precisely at the same time (Mar/April 2013, Oct/Nov 2013) as the bitcoin market... see the correlation?

I actually see more QE as a good thing.  Where do you think all those whale investor dollars came from and into bitcoin in 2013?  

To my knowledge, the bitcoin market didn't really have the ability to short before Nov 2013 because no exchanges offered it.  Now it's everywhere.  To me, this is the biggest problem now... no one trusts that an uptrend is real, believing that it's just a short term pump (in order to short at the top) or simply a short squeeze that's causing an artificial rise.  We can't see any true demand buying.

Yeah, but here's the thing.  At some point if you want to go long, you have to decide at what price point.  As this thing grinds up, there are of course going to be down days or even down weeks.

In my mind if we are still above 400 in 2-3 months from now, then the bottom is truly in the rearview.

You just noticed?  It's been like that for 4 months.  The apathy for bitcoin these days is very telling...