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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SCRYPT] KlondikeCoin ★ Cryptsy.com ★ Prepaid VISA Cards ★ 0% Premine [KDC] on: April 05, 2014, 07:33:51 PM
kDC devs Sleeping in slumber ....




Those are hilarious images.

Cheesy
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 07:32:06 PM

i dont get it...
how in the world did anyone define a GF750TI as Mining Hardware... I returned returned a fresh Geforce 760GTX and bought a Radeon 280X because radeons do triple as good as Nvidia cards. Make it Asics or Radeon cards, thenn you can call it a reward.

Dont get me wrong, i like the way of "incentivicing" the crowds but you can't make it rewarding by giving away slow garbage hardware.


Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.. The 750ti is based on nvidia's new chip, and beats the 760 hands down hashrate-wise.  It doesn't beat the 280x on speed, however it beats the 280x on hashrate per watt, not to mention, it's way cheaper, it runs more quiet and a lot cooler. So go do some reading up before you come in here talking shit that doesn't add up, thanks.

That is indeed news to me. Sorry 'bout that. I have been mining on my Gaming PC with 3x 280x for the last few months but electricity is so expensive here in germany(0.35$/kwh) that i am considering selling 2 of the cards to buy BC instead. Competing against rising diff and asics makes mining worthless for me.

Yep, the 750ti is very good on power consumption.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/nvidia-gtx-750-ti-mining/

There is also the gridseed 5-chip, when mining scrypt it uses only
about 8W. And 60W for scrypt and SHA-256 (LTC & BTC) combined
mode.

The site above also has a load of articles about the gridseed.

I'm waiting until the ascis arrive before I decide to what setup I go
for. Possibly see newer gridseeds with higher hash rate, and that
also allows more time for better software/driver support.

I still think the 750ti is a weird prize.

...but I'd take it.
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 04:34:33 PM
Multipool Dev should release the clarification note on why the miners are receiving the coins shorter than their expectation. It would lead to less miners mining the pool.

I personally believe that i am ready to accept the amount half than expected because I knew that I am mining not for the btc but for the constructive growth of BC.


Looks like someone is trying to explain paying half by saying "well, price is doubled" .. but some of us did not mine at high price and hash, so got well scammed either way.

Either way .. EMC2 is better to mine Wink

Off the battlefield unworthy slave, or be whipped off like a dog. You don't belong here in the ranks of men.

Send the crooked dog to Korea, they will find use for him in a fine dog stew. The genitals will be fed to sparrows though.

...or crushed into a poultice.

I hate when people plug other coins on a particular coin's thread - bad form...
564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 04:02:10 PM
This payout is from at least 12 hours back. You have not been paid for the past 24 hours, but the 24 hours BEFORE the run that started 12 hours ago. Adjust your expectations.


If you think your payouts are low:
- We switched pool / IP to new version -> Check your fail-over!
- The payout is from a while back due to Cryptsy failing
- Check the current profitablity from Wafflepool - We beat that.
- The price roose to 9500 and back to 8500. We buy all day long, might have been some high buys. (We try to prevent this as much as possible)
- Check your failovers, check your rigs, and check your WU. Don't expect your 3.5 MH/s rig to do 3.5 MH/s. It does 3.2 at best if you look at WU.

Also, check last days Wafflepool. We are still way better then that.

This explains it all. Thanks

Agreed. Thanks for all the info, folks. It adds up now. I should probably put a failover or two in there. If I put more than one, is there a different command then failover-only, or is it just whichever one is listed first gets checked first?

For what it's worth, there's not a single coin I'd rather support right now, it is a huge fall off after Blackcoin. (Though my beloved, struggling Prospercoin is second.)  Wink
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
Alright, just got my payout for 34 hours of mining at ~4Mh/s - 115 BC.
That is a TERRIBLE payout.
Why, exactly?
Its half what I got for half the time, same hash. And it was when pool was at 500Mhs not 1.5Ghs
Well, maybe some pool ops can explain.
I'll be removing my rigs, sadly, very soon, if this isn't resolved.
Should have had at least 320 or so...
57 BC payout for about 28 hour session with 2.8 Mh rig. Was getting about 150 in the beta pool. Strange indeed.
Please note that these are the payments of the shares collected 10 hours ago. Cryptsy had some problems releasing the coins.

Fair enough, though that still puts me at a good amount less than appropriate.
566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 03:09:49 PM
Alright, just got my payout for 34 hours of mining at ~4Mh/s - 115 BC.

That is a TERRIBLE payout.

Why, exactly?

Its half what I got for half the time, same hash. And it was when pool was at 500Mhs not 1.5Ghs



Well, maybe some pool ops can explain.

I'll be removing my rigs, sadly, very soon, if this isn't resolved.

Should have had at least 320 or so...


Payouts depends on the BC price. And BC price is quite higher today than yesterday. And if you look at other multipool profitability on April 4th... :
http://wafflepool.com/stats

Btw i agree 115 BC for 4 Mhz is lower than expected, even with current BC price.

No doubt, I am well aware - but the price went up about 20%, not 300%.

(I know you agree, just putting the math out there)
567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
Alright, just got my payout for 34 hours of mining at ~4Mh/s - 115 BC.

That is a TERRIBLE payout.

Why, exactly?

Its half what I got for half the time, same hash. And it was when pool was at 500Mhs not 1.5Ghs



Well, maybe some pool ops can explain.

I'll be removing my rigs, sadly, very soon, if this isn't resolved.

Should have had at least 320 or so...
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 02:48:15 PM
Alright, just got my payout for 34 hours of mining at ~4Mh/s - 115 BC.

That is a TERRIBLE payout.

Why, exactly?
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ♦♣LOTTOCOIN♠♥ LOTTOCOIN OFFICIAL THREAD - Multiplayer poker, now open on: April 05, 2014, 01:51:46 AM
how do you mean whats going to happen? theres already many games you can play with lottocoins, thats the idea of lottocoin right?

you have any plans in mind ?

i won 30k lottocoin with blackjack 2day Cheesy


yeah 30 k is like  1 dollar why are you so happy


Why are you sad?

Good for him, winning makes people happy.
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 05, 2014, 12:26:17 AM
New pool launched at 3PM PST right?

If you mean http://blackcoinpool.com, we are waiting for the 1.0 software release.  It's been delayed for about 1 hour.  Multiple upgrades in the release.....


Wait, is that why my rig won't connect?

I was having a conniption fit a few minutes ago...
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PRC] Prospercoin -2 Exchanges Coinmarketcap casino underdevelopment on: April 04, 2014, 10:34:10 PM
Feed the troll, feed me!

No, but really, the COIN IS DEAD. You can write a wall of text, but yall all know there no development in the coin and you're just mad because  you been tricked in to being a bag holder. If you're smart, sell off what you have now before it worth nothing at all.


Now now now, empty revving Toyota (that you'll never afford), I'm pretty sure YOU are mad because there is no development in your precious LOTTO - despite months of empty promises from the devs.

“I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.”

572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PRC] Prospercoin -2 Exchanges Coinmarketcap casino underdevelopment on: April 04, 2014, 10:27:25 PM
Troll troll troll troll hahahaha no but really, where is the dev? no where to be seen and you want people to donate funds for the casino? HAHAHAHHA no thanks, im not going to donate anymore money to this scam coin.

I have to love a troll like you totally avoids answering anything and says he has spent money when he has spent nothing. YOU HAVENT DONATED ANYTHING - you are living in Trolland not far from idiotland and iamamoronland. You made this Supra account just to troll prospercoin.

Lucky for you we like to feed the low life trolls to keep them fat and stupid. One day you will find out you are a moron and it will be too late to change! One day when you grow up out of your troll nappies and will stop peeing your troll pants at the first sign of intelligent conversation and the understanding that opinions do not mean FACT!

You actually think YOUR opinions are fact and really you should read something like Plato or Socrates. By reading such things and understanding certain quotes you will have your eyes opened to the fact that all of us ipse se nihil scire id unum scia.

Or Socrates Translated quote "So now I do not know what virtue is! But perhaps you knew before you contacted me, but now you are certainly like one who does not know"

Or maybe you will read Diogenes Laertius

"I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good.But this fellow he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know."

Supra your lack of basic understanding forbids you to see reality as is or as should be nobody should force opinion as fact. It has been said "To force ones opinion as fact is to show the essence of stupidity and the lack for forethought and courtesy"

I wish to help you my dear troll so will guide you with several quotes that will show you how your manner less ways show the person at the heart of the comments they make.. These are all about you and what a person you are growing up to be ( for sure you must be no more than a child as deducted by your own actions)  ( of course just in my opinion because i know i know nothing at all )

Bill Watterson

Some people are pragmatists, taking things as they come and making the best of the choices available. Some people are idealists, standing for principle and refusing to compromise. And some people just act on any whim that enters their heads. I pragmatically turn my whims into principles.

T.J Taylor

Life is a series of choices. The choices we make now affect the options available for the next round of choices.

The most violent element in society is ignorance.  ~Emma Goldman

Before we work on artificial intelligence why don't we do something about natural stupidity?  ~Steve Polyak

The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.  ~Mark Twain

Some folks are wise and some are otherwise.  ~Tobias Smollett

Your ignorance cramps my conversation.  ~Anthony Hope

But anyway keep on trolling and never learning ....

AND BY THE WAY change the record we have heard it all before.

This reply

Troll troll troll troll hahahaha no but really, where is the dev? no where to be seen and you want people to donate funds for the casino? HAHAHAHHA no thanks, im not going to donate anymore money to this scam coin.

Does not constitute an argument. For the love of god and the English language please put up an argument that is worthwhile and is longer than one sentence! If you wish us to take your trolling seriously at least have the manners to place a decent digital epistle and argument.

You cannot argue what has been agreed. If you had read some of my retorts you would clearly see that i have agreed that In mean should spend more time on this thread! OH please, please forgive me i forgot you are just learning to read and have not moved on to your big boy words i am sorry i forgot that you are still waiting for puberty and the ability to argue like a man. Sorry my bad!

But let us be honest we are not interested in your floccinaucinihilipilification.

I cannot wait for your reply it fills me with such glee and happiness knowing i can convey my arguments to you so openly and know you haven't a clue as to what has been said. Please hurry back i await my daily entertainment! I take my education of trolls however fun it may be very seriously. I know trolls need a lot of care and attention to grow up big, fat and stupid!


Big smiles.

ESPECIALLY the Plato/Socrates quote...
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 04, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
lol you gotta be kidding me Cheesy Some here were right. Yea i bought at 9000 i put a sell order at 9200 but it diddnt make it lol fell down in the 7's and I bought for 1.2 btc just 30 min to early lol always happens to me! So fuck it, dont care I'm in for the long run Cheesy
You are right my dear. Do not worry about the price of the blackcoin, these idiots who are buying and selling are only making a small profit perhaps to buy a pack of cigarettes, kkkkk. The great thing is that this coin has potential for $ 2.00, I started to buy when value was 1500 sats,I have bought in all price ranges. 4000, 5000, 8800, 7300, 6400. Do not worry about this idiots, Do not daytrading Blackcoin because it is very cheap.
You call a trader an idiot?  Why don't you try to learn something new instead of insulting other people?  It is your loss.

Is BC under priced?  Absolutely.  But that won't stop me from taking advantage of my trading skills to gain more BC, or giving others who ask the best advice I can.

And FYI, I bought my long term BC much lower than you so I'm can't figure out why I'm the idiot?
I make money from my job, I do not make money with my money. I'm in Blackcoin for long term investment. I'm a big investor Blackcoin, you can believe me. I just keep buying me blackcoin, I've never sold a dime. You will feel very sad to see I daytranding blackcoin.
I recommend you get a job, and to buy more blackcoin, you will be happier in the long run.

Very high on arrogance, very low on intelligence.

I (and many hundreds of others) trade to increase my holdings of BC and a few other coins EVERY DAY.

I get more EVERY DAY.

I pay NOTHING for this result.

Why would I not do that, regardless of whether or not I have a job? (I do, and it leaves plenty of time for trading)

I recommend you learn how to proofread your invalid claims, they might fool someone then.
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 04, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
First coin that is successful gets the credits. The coins that copy never get as far. Hence why Litecoin is behind Bitcoin. Same reason why coins that tried to copy Doge and be meme-like failed.

Full disclosure - I am long some Blackcoin. But some of the claims on here are delusional.

If you think that BC's going anywhere near LTC you're crazy. LTC has a massive history behind it plus mainstream Chinese exchange adoption which took it a couple of years. We are now living in a different age. New coins appear every DAY. There is no "first mover" advantage to be had here. Any coin which gets launched in the same 3 month window can be considered a "first mover". Doge's "first mover" advantage is taking it on an express trip to zero satoshis because once the speculative value is wrung out of it, there's no functional value left.

Just saying - don't be surprised when BC tops out at a few hundred more SATs and that's it done. It's already doing pretty impressively for a coin that draws the bulk of its value from an overtly hostile marketing strategy.


i'm banking on the multipool's upcoming buy pressure. obviously, you're not.

This guy is also delusional about Doge - big money backs Doge, and more mainstream exposure than anything but BTC.

It will not see single digit Satoshis, if ever, for years...

575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SCRYPT] KlondikeCoin ★ Cryptsy.com ★ Prepaid VISA Cards ★ 0% Premine [KDC] on: April 04, 2014, 03:05:44 PM
There is no need to rush this hard-fork... Fuse will need a day or two to double check the code.

At this point, no one is going to use this exploit against KDC... at a network hash-rate of less than 100Mh/s... a straight up 51% attack would be easier and a guaranteed success compared the aggro of a using the KGW exploit. The exploit is most attractive for attacking networks where a 51% attack is not possible, because the KGW exploit only needs about 10% of the network hash-rate to be effective, so it makes the big networks vulnerable.

In the case of KDC, a 51% attack is instant and effective... and not much hash-rate would be needed... in fact... I could launch a 51% by myself at the moment with ease.

So more important to take the time to ensure the fix is implemented properly, add a few checkpoints, and make sure the hard fork is deployed after a considerable publicity and notice to all exchanges, merchants, users, and miners than rushing it because of the fear of being exploited.

If there is going to be another hard fork perhaps we should rethink the block payout...  Hash is king and you have to pay for it. Smiley

I would suggest a fixed reward for all future blocks (no halving).  Remember the more blocks hashed the less dilutive a payout is.

why not 88? 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)




reward is 8 and price is around 1500-1800 ....

so u want make it 88 .... where is your brains ?

My brain is on the meager 60Mh/s and the security of the coin.  Where else should your brain be?  88 coins a minute buys you a few hundred Mh/s even at lower prices.

It's not like 88 payout tanks the coin 80%.  The more blocks that are produced the less inflation a new block creates. 



Unless of course you want a coin with 20Mh/s NET HASH and anyone with time to kill can 51% attack your coin... 

Don't focus on the price, worry about the underpinnings.
 

Lol you are the one who are most focused on the price, you turned off your rigs because you hadn't enough profit.

And my potential hash is not applied to any coin. 

Who wins? no one.

I would mine a coin valued at 1 satoshi if it was worth the effort.  I don't give two shits about the actual price, I just care about the exchange of my hash for equitable value.

Call me the evil scum of the earth for being a profit miner until your blue in the face and your coin withers to an unsecure hash rate, I could care less.

This is just a side hobby / educational experience for me, I made a suggestion on block payout to improve the net hash. 

What ideas do you have besides bad mouthing someone who just wants to be paid for their work?


A lot of stupid, shortsighted ideas havecome up - and been implemented - on this thread, more than most other coins.

The block reward should NEVER have been dropped from 77 to 16.

That showed such brutal disregard for every miner that might join KDC from that point on, and has nearly killed the coin.

Why not 44 or 33, why the hell 16?

Why didn't ANYONE stop such a foolhardy change?

Greed, that's why.

This guy is right, the reward is not much of a reward, and the suffering hashrate proves it...
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 04, 2014, 02:03:24 PM
WHO THE FUCK IS DUMPING RIGHT NOW??


People who don't know what we're doing here, and think it'll be crashing soon...
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 04, 2014, 05:07:08 AM
...any reason the pool is reporting my 4.2Mh/s as 0.36Mh/s?

...because it is unlikely to be profitable over electricity at 9% efficiency...

They're still working on the accuracy of the stats, but don't worry, you'll get paid for all the shares you submit regardless of your reported speed. I've been using the pool for the last week and it often reports my speed as 5x what it actually is, but it's still paying me accurately (although I wish it was paying me 5x more Wink


Sweet, thanks!

I love the idea, and have become jaded with 99.5% of all the coins out there...

...yeah, only about five or six I can respect...
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: April 04, 2014, 04:50:57 AM
...any reason the pool is reporting my 4.2Mh/s as 0.36Mh/s?

...because it is unlikely to be profitable over electricity at 9% efficiency...
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PRC] Prospercoin -2 Exchanges Coinmarketcap casino underdevelopment on: April 04, 2014, 03:41:36 AM
What good will adding the dead coin to a new exchange? It's still dead a dead coin going down to 0.00000001
There is no development and you if you didn't get out by now, you're just going to be a bag holder. Don't say i never warned you.

Dead horse, Rev.
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [2014 FLAGSHIP ALT] *EarthCoin* EAC +1 Community, +1 Exec Team, +1 Best Talent on: April 03, 2014, 07:35:49 PM
EAC can't sustain the same volume as yesterday w/o a huge price increase! The air under DOGE's sails is starting too fail...I suspect that the whales will be looking for a new project!

Hah, Doge has a LOT more momentum, man.

Wishfully blinded thinking, here...

Still, EAC isn't done yet - it has a big community, and SO MANY services.

BTC goes up, all of the viable alts will too...

I'm not blinded or a dreamer...in fact I bought DOGE at 38 and saw the downside coming at 200!

Someone go to coinmarketcap and tell me that the DOGE market cap is sustainable...then scroll down too EAC and you will see that EAC could explode in your wallet! 30 million market cap compared too 130,000$ and you think I'm blinded? Lol!

Yes, it would seem that way. We shall see.

Still, that damned doggy has twenty times the community of EAC - it is a juggernaut.

You deny it, but many smart folk do not...
Clearly DOGE has been in a down trend when you look at the 1 month chart and smart traders know that if support is broken again it will make 90 the next resistance! That will make the next support level 50-60 with the market cap cut in half. The community know this and hope that Nascar will bring a new influx of suckers too buy...
 I don't doubt that "damned doggy" or the intelligence of its community but they are on a slippery slope in desperate need of a trend reversal!


Like I was trying to say, it seems more like wishful thinking than thought out, unemotional analysis on your part.

The people in DOGE have a LOT of money invested, and there are dozens of whales. It has worldwide, mainstream exposure - like pretty much only BTC and LTC.

This is not to be underestimated.

My point is that Doge will go back up again, regardless of a '1 month trend' that coincides with nearly every other coin, all in the shadow of BTC's precipitous drop.

EAC right now is at the end of a seven week downward trend that started before BTC plummeted, and seems to have levelled out.

EAC will likely eventually go back up, and when it does, it will be very profitable for those who got in low (I did) - Doge will DEFINITELY go back up, and when it does, it will be INSANELY profitable for those whales, and less so for the reactionaries.

Goddamned memes...



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