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Let's hear those arguments!
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its hard to argue with someone who doesn't understand what they don't understand.
Tell me about it. How about you start presenting some actual arguments then? |
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it takes a broad understanding of a variety of disciplines to get your head around Bitcoin; math, cryptography, economics, money, game theory.
And I know a thing or two about all of these. And for your information: all of these either have a strong mathematical component or are a branch of mathematics. |
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your argument is that i'm supposed to lay out my entire financial history and holdings just so that you will take my arguments seriously?
I did take your argument seriously, and responded to it. You claimed destruction of XRP would be a major problem, and I simply had to point you to the FAQ that says that the amounts are so miniscule they would last for thousands of years. You've cast aspersions on my motives, but I have shown that I actually have a bigger financial stake in Bitcoin than in Ripple. You on the other hand refuse to disclose your stake. I have no great stake either way, but a bigger one in Bitcoin than in Ripple. I can simply judge the two systems on their merits and I see them as hugely synergetic. In particular, I believe Bitcoin may well be screwed without Ripple or something very much like it. Such an alternative could clearly also be based on Bitcoin, and as I said, I'd welcome that. |
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i'm pretty sure you don't understand Bitcoin OR Ripple any better than i do.
Unless you have a strong background in both mathematics and computer science I doubt that very strongly. And if you do, it certainly doesn't show. |
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wow, i'm so impressed you took the great and convincing responsibility to reveal you had 2 BTC. my you are so transparent.
such childish arguments that any reasonable person wouldn't respond to.
Just as I predicted: you have only empty arguments and you aren't willing to disclose your own financial interest. Very telling. |
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for anyone interested in mmeijeri's first post here on the forum, just look at this to understand why he is a Ripple Evangelist:
I'll tell you why I'm in favour of Ripple the payment system: it is what will allow BTC to survive even in the face of draconian government repression. I've consistently argued that. I have no strong feelings about XRP the currency either way, but I do think competition is good. And that works both ways, I would welcome a Ripple-like distributed exchange based on BTC rather than XRP. |
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clearly you missed the Bitcoin runup. probably b/c you never understood the fundamentals behind Bitcoin. this would explain why you can't seem to understand my arguments.
I understand your arguments just fine thank you very much, it's just that they are without value. I'm pretty sure I understand Bitcoin a lot better than you do. Not actually my first post, but my first post outside the newbie forum. And for your information, I hold ~2 BTC right now. I've just given away 1 BTC to the EFF for their awesome decision to accept BTC and I'm waiting for a money transfer from my bank to reach Bitstamp so I can buy back another 1 BTC through Ripple. By contrast, I hold only ~1400 XRP. Now that we're disclosing private finances, will you tell us how much BTC you hold and what your monthly mining income is? I suspect you won't. |
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there is a clear problem here that you should address.
I just did. And calling out misbehaviour isn't ad hominem. |
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however holding however billion they are holding onto as a company or private individuals should be a big concern to anyone wishing to adopt.
Perhaps, but the same is true of Satoshi's stash of BTC. Besides, how do you know Satoshi isn't behind Ripple too? |
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From the Ripple FAQ: When Ripple started there were 100 billion ripples in existence. This number is slowly decreasing because, as a security measure, each transaction destroys a tiny fraction of a ripple. Don’t worry — even with the whole world using Ripple, it will take thousands of years to destroy all the ripples. You can see the exact number of ripples at the Live Network Graph. It's clear that cypherdoc doesn't have an open mind and is merely critically evaluating Ripple. He / she is deliberately campaigning against it. |
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*Deep breath*
A factory takeover is always a peaceful, organized process if the profiteer being deposed has the good sense to gtfo, and doesn't call in the riot cops, instead opting to let the rightful owners, the workers, take over.
The rightful owner would be the shareholders, unless the factory is owned by a workers co-op. Possible, but rare. A takeover is by definition not a peaceful process, it is coercion backed up by the threat of violence by union thugs. |
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Does anyone here have an idea why this is happening? It seems to be more than just the Dwolla route to Mt Gox being closed, as it affects EUR too and happens on other exchanges as well. AUD and JPY seem to be less affected.
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1. Where does Exchange B get their money to pay all the withdraws, if they have $0AUD balance?
Exchanges don't have to redeem other exchanges' IOUs, though they might choose to redeem limited amounts of the more trustworthy ones at a discount. |
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Factory takeover? Riot cops.
A factory takeover involves violence or the threat of violence. In France today it sometimes even involves taking the management hostage. It is totally justifiable to resist that violence, the occupiers are the initiators of coercion. Attempt to overthrow a slaveowning profiteer? Millitary bloodbath.
Slave ownership is clearly coercion and it is clearly right to resist it. Strikes? Picket lines? More riot cops or at least arrests and brutality.
Strikes mean breaking a contractual promise. As a contractor, you wouldn't get away with it. People should be free not to extend their contracts, or terminate them with due notice if that's what's agreed in their contracts, but not to strike and break their contracts. Similarly, companies should be free to fire those who strike, evict them from the premises, and to hire strike breakers. Those who go on strike initiate the violence. Picket lines are meant to intimidate fellow workers and management and involve barely hidden threats of violence. |
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Whichever place we choose, Fridays will be better for people who don't live there.
Friday in Amsterdam would be fine with me, or either tomorrow or Friday in Delft. Friday in Delft would be my favourite.
Delft is closer to my home, but that's not going to be true for everyone, so that's not a good argument. Some place that accepts BTC would be preferable, but it's not crucial and we can always try to talk the proprietor into accepting it if we show up regularly.
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OK, how about a poll?
- Tomorrow in Amsterdam
- Coming Friday in Amsterdam
- Tomorrow in Delft
- Coming Friday in Delft
Any more suggestions?
I guess we do need to check if they're open first...
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BTW, how about that cafe in Delft that accepts BTC?
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There will always be disagreements, but Fridays will always be better for those not living in Amsterdam.
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Allemaal expats of zitten we hier onnodig in het Engels schrijven?  |
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