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5641  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: May 31, 2015, 02:58:33 PM
Faucets are mainly there to generate ad revenue for the faucet owner.. The payout is so little, the time spend on clicking and writing the captcha is not even worth it..

Sig campaigns rock hard. Especially once you reach a decent rank!

Indeed. But still there are so many people that using faucets and now there are many rotator that they said can "earn" more from that even though there are many good signature campaign out there. Not saying that they using bot to do that faucets or may be cheating them, I dont know how they are going to do it but what I know signature campaign is paying a lot and its worth to do
5642  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 31, 2015, 02:50:25 PM
Its better to invest money than just save it.... but smart investing.
Gold is always good option.

Gold is not always a good option though. Basically if you are looking to invest your money into a form of "goods" than real estate is a better option than gold. Obviously it is because real estate business have always been increasing since the past time and had neber shown a sign of decreasing ( more human , lower hectar of land, higher real estate prices ). Plus that "land" is much more easier to keep than gold though
Because its better to handle land than a gold and gold can be stolen and land is not.
And as time as passed by, the real estate increasing its value.


How are you going to handle land? gold is much more easier to handle because we just need to find a safer then we can safe it right away without

anyone notice it. There are many banks that provide this kind of safer. Value oth of them are increasing but imo real estate is more fluctuative than gold

Land is safe as long as the government recognizes said land as yours, which means if anyone tries to stole it, they'll send the police to kick them out. The day this changes tho, the only way to protect your land will be by being on top of it with a shotgun.

Nope I can't agree you on that thing. You need to do so many things before government know that lands is yours. In my country there are several

things that must be done before that land become yours. After you bought that land doesnt mean it belongs to you may be you must need to pay

every kind of payment so that land become yours entirely
But after you finish the things that you must do so that government will recognize the land as yours. And no one can now stole your land.

Altough you finish all your things up still government can always take it all directly because they have a power to do it. When you deal with government I dont think you can win in their fight. They will use all of their power to get what they want from you altough it doesnt belong to them so its too risky to have land as your investment
They can't do that even if we think that government officials are bad still theres a official that have a good intention and he/she can help you if the government do that to you.

Yes they can because they have enough power to erase your land with your own title to it. They can make you to surrender your own land just because you lose in power. That is how government people with do in their own way

A story of someone who bought a piece of land and refused to give it up (actually sell for almost 6x higher than the original price)...

I think some of them will sell it like 6 times or may be higher but that is only one of a kind. There are not many people that wanna sell their own land if they have not been forced so this kind of people is rare
5643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: May 31, 2015, 02:43:57 PM
So bitcoin and fiat will never compatible to each other incase one of them is dissapear from this world

Although I don't want to agree with such radical conclusions, I can assure you that fiat and bitcoin are bitter rivals. But still, I am hopeful of a compromise being found. May be there will be a way, to use both fiat and Bitcoin simultaneously, without eating each other's market share. It seems like both will exist, at least in the near future.

That is no radical conclusions, I say this because there are no way to put them both together in this world as type of currency. Government need to choose which one is better for them in future. And I dont think both of them will exist in the future one of them must shutting down due to their market

I think the banks who's didn't accept bitcoin must accept bitcoin now because they must adopt it so that no one will be outweigh if bitcoin will replace fiat money.

That is never going to happen. Bitcoin was created to end the exploitation by commercial bankers. It is against the whole principle of centralized banking. Bitcoin and banks are not compatible. The banks will never accept Bitcoin, as they know that doing so will only help to increase the popularity of the digital currency.

Its true, that will never happen because fiat doesnt correspond to bitcoin otherwise bitcoin really need fiat to make this things work so without fiat bitcoin is nothing. Bank doesnt allow bitcoin to press them altough there are more bitcoin user than fiat user. So bitcoin and fiat will never compatible to each other incase one of them is dissapear from this world
So that bitcoin is depends on fiat money? But it can affect banks by its customers and they more likely to invest or keep their fiat money into thei wallet as bitcoin.

Yes it depends on fiat. If there is no fiat I dont think bitcoin can be cash out like that and what are they gonna do with their bitcoin if they can't even cash it out to their own currency? Soon or later people will left bitcoin. That is only my opinion tough I dont sure how are things going in the future
5644  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: May 31, 2015, 01:25:15 PM
Let's not guess, let's do the math.

freebitco.in is the faucet I've used. Today they're offering BTC0.00000861 per roll. At today's $233 BTC price, that's $0.002 per roll.

So, 10 rolls x $0.002 = $0.02
100 rolls = $0.20
1,000 rolls = $2.00
10,000 rolls = $20.00
100,000 rolls = $200

In BTC...
10 rolls = BTC0.0000861
100 rolls = BTC0.000861
1,000 rolls = BTC0.00861
10,000 rolls = BTC0.0861
100,000 rolls = BTC0.861

No, let's see how much time there is in a day to roll. Afterall, you said you wanted to crush it, non stop, right?

1 roll per second is likely not possible due to the timers of the faucets, but 1 roll per minute is possible. Let's go with that. 60 minutes in an hour, 15 hours a day (you said you want to work at this) = 900 minutes (and potential rolls) per day. That'll give you just under $2 per day in earning potential. I don't know how far it gets you where you are, but at least you now have a real idea on what's possible...and how much effort it requires.

Cheers!

I guess that faucet is paying out like 1 hour each claim right? So I think 100 roll is around 7 days if you spend 15hours for a day to get and the payout is just 0.000861. How are you going to do that for 100,000 rolls? I think that is a wasting time. With signature campaign you can earn more than that. Like dadice, they will pay up to 0.15 per week besides any bonus so think twice before using any faucets
5645  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best place to advertise my future gambling site! [Advice] on: May 31, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
this forum would be the best place to advertise it with a signature campaign imo.

Thanks for the feedback, we have agreed to advertise here and to include a signature campaign - when the site is ready.

Yes its true signature campaign can make your site even knownable since there are several people that want to use your signature before your site wasnt ready. May be you can try to advertise in some faucets too because there are many peopl out there using faucets so with that advertise you can attract faucets newbie to play in your site too
5646  Economy / Economics / Re: [Chart] Here is my prediction about Bitcoin Price till 1st Dec 2017 on: May 31, 2015, 01:11:26 PM
In general these types of posts are better fit for the speculation sub-thread for future reference.

In response to your price predictions I highly highly doubt bitcoin price will be stable for 2 years. It'll either be worth a LOT more or go down to near $0.

down to near $0? since you're a high ranked hero member you must know that this isn't possible within a few years. it may go down, but nothing like you say.
is it possible for it to go to for example 1 dollar? i dont think so as there will be users of it, i think it can go to 20 dollars

neither 20, at worst case i could see it going at the price before the 1200 peak happened, which was around 90, but in the end what i really think is that it won't go even below 150-200, because the mining farms are already too big, to let that happen, they worked hard for growing their big farms , i think they will start buying too if the price fall too much

When I say "near $0" I mean it will either succeed and go up greatly in price/value or it can fail with maybe just a small group of people running the nodes and willing to pay pennies just to have the bitcoins. Is it likely to fail? --No, not in my opinion. But it is a possibility.

How could it fail? Well if every country made it illegal with the death penalty as punishment there would be very very few people using it. If the EDCSA curve was found to have a mathematical solution that could also be its downfall (not that it's likely). If we have the evolution of a better cryptocurrency that could be its downfall, etc.

Bitcoin is highly likely to succeed and will continue to grow in value, which is why I think 2 years of stability around $240 is absurd. Bitcoin has never been that stable and won't be that stable for another 10-30 years (at a much higher price).

Any why should they make it illegal? I dont think it affected every country in every aspect. It is just like usual trading and it doesnt break any trading rules I guess so I dont think it need a death penalty about this. About the stabilitize of bitcoin for 2 year of stability it doesnt absurd, may be people just stop on trading to stacks their bitcoin for a while that is some possiblities to stacks with this kind of price
5647  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: May 31, 2015, 11:52:21 AM
I think the banks who's didn't accept bitcoin must accept bitcoin now because they must adopt it so that no one will be outweigh if bitcoin will replace fiat money.

That is never going to happen. Bitcoin was created to end the exploitation by commercial bankers. It is against the whole principle of centralized banking. Bitcoin and banks are not compatible. The banks will never accept Bitcoin, as they know that doing so will only help to increase the popularity of the digital currency.

Its true, that will never happen because fiat doesnt correspond to bitcoin otherwise bitcoin really need fiat to make this things work so without fiat bitcoin is nothing. Bank doesnt allow bitcoin to press them altough there are more bitcoin user than fiat user. So bitcoin and fiat will never compatible to each other incase one of them is dissapear from this world
5648  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gaming on the Blockchain on: May 31, 2015, 11:47:31 AM
I'm currently playing Monster Hunter for no bitcoins whatsoever, and finding it fairly enjoyable. In fact, I paid money for this game.

Are you playing that game for free without doing some earning? Altough it is fairly enjoyable or may be you are having fun with it, if there is no earning why you going to play it? All this game is only for fun? Nothing else?
5649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: May 31, 2015, 11:44:48 AM
Of course everyone thinks martingale is an amazing tactic, but they forget that due to its nature you will experience exponential growth of your wager, and once your wager is like 25x times your starting bet you will feel the heat. It's not a fun tactic to use for more than a minute.
with some luck martingale can give you chance to multiply your funds fast so i dont think its a bad strategy if you know how to use it

But how are you going to get this luck? How are your going to play with this method if in the end you are always in lose. There will be no pure luck and no pure strategy it depends on how are you going play it anyway so being luck just can't give you back what you have lost. The eager to win the lose you got. That is what gambling is
5650  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 31, 2015, 11:31:51 AM
Its better to invest money than just save it.... but smart investing.
Gold is always good option.

Gold is not always a good option though. Basically if you are looking to invest your money into a form of "goods" than real estate is a better option than gold. Obviously it is because real estate business have always been increasing since the past time and had neber shown a sign of decreasing ( more human , lower hectar of land, higher real estate prices ). Plus that "land" is much more easier to keep than gold though
Because its better to handle land than a gold and gold can be stolen and land is not.
And as time as passed by, the real estate increasing its value.


How are you going to handle land? gold is much more easier to handle because we just need to find a safer then we can safe it right away without

anyone notice it. There are many banks that provide this kind of safer. Value oth of them are increasing but imo real estate is more fluctuative than gold

Land is safe as long as the government recognizes said land as yours, which means if anyone tries to stole it, they'll send the police to kick them out. The day this changes tho, the only way to protect your land will be by being on top of it with a shotgun.

Nope I can't agree you on that thing. You need to do so many things before government know that lands is yours. In my country there are several

things that must be done before that land become yours. After you bought that land doesnt mean it belongs to you may be you must need to pay

every kind of payment so that land become yours entirely
But after you finish the things that you must do so that government will recognize the land as yours. And no one can now stole your land.

Altough you finish all your things up still government can always take it all directly because they have a power to do it. When you deal with government I dont think you can win in their fight. They will use all of their power to get what they want from you altough it doesnt belong to them so its too risky to have land as your investment
5651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: May 31, 2015, 05:07:22 AM
buying and holding. that will make your bitcoin grow..
thought I just buy and buy so I'm always running out of bitcoin.

If you always buy it everytime yes your bitcoin stacks will grow but the value of your bitcoin will stay the same and you can still make no profit from it

with just do all buying and holding it. I dont think that will be a good method to do since there is a chance to lose the value
Maybe lose in a few time but if you have exactly or timing the right time to sell it . It will be worth it and you can now enjoy your coins.
Exactly that's what i don't like in trading , Holding mean just that you will sell later but in a long term
its not a guarantee method to grow up your bitcoins .

Bitcoin Boy .
You can guarantee the grow of your bitcoins because you are only waiting for the time and for sure the price of the bitcoin is high so that you would sell it.

Yes may be it will guarantee you to make profit and grow your value too but in the end you still get low payout because you just wait the price go

higher then you sell it that is not a good way to grow it. May be yes it will grow but the time you take is too much to get profit

You need to be faster and earn more
You can do your real job until the time comes to sell your coins. You can get a high profit but slow growing of bitcoin.

The real job that you said will support you in your bitcoin but we can't always depends on this bitcoin trading. Selling some bitcoin wont grow your bitcoin, it is just get you some profit but if you really want to grow your bitcoin I can suggest you to spare some of your salary to invest in bitcoin and do some alt trading or may be gambling, you can earn alot from it but only if you feel lucky
It all depends on the risk level that you are taking. The higher, the better your return. That is especially on new altcoins but it all depends on how fast you get in and how fast you get out. If the risk is about losing all your coins, then I think it's still better to hang on to it and do nothing. After all, we are waiting for bitcoin price to go up right? So what is the difference if we just wait.

May be you are right the higher risk the better for return but that is like gambling and will end you up lose anyway so with only hang on to your coin and do nothing it wont be enough to get you much profit. I mean that we can do trading everyday in order to get much profit but waiting for the price to going up is just speculation, we can't predict the future. So how about if we wait the price to raise but otherwise the price is going down drastically?
5652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: May 31, 2015, 04:59:56 AM
My country already banned BTC last year so, bad luck on that.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/2014/sep/16/bitcoin-illegal-bangladesh

And I haven't found any of my known people to know BTC. I tried to lure them, but failed Huh Huh

I dont know whats the problem about having bitcoin in one country and why they banned this bitcoin. I dont think bitcoin is harm to any currency and if

it affected in currency that must not a big problem

(IMO) the problem is because there is so many Bitcoin scam sites, so they think that Bitcoin isn't safe. And of course if people use Bitcoin which mean low fees or even no fees, how about the Bank?? Their customers will decrease because of the fees

If you think that is the problem still it doesnt affected to the legality of bitcoin in every country because that scam sites is just depends on yourselves whether you want to hit it or not, and if you hit it you must take all the responsibility. About the bank things I think it will really useful too since every person still want to use fiat to buy bitcoin or even convert it back so bank will never down just because there are many of bitcoin users
Bitcoin can affect banks and other business that need an investors to invest their money in their business and if people change their fiat money to bitcoin, more people will now invest in bitcoin and not in the fiat money so that it can affect the business in a particular country.

Some of them are still doing both investments, fiat and bitcoin too, so I dont think that bitcoin will affect bank much, otherwise help bank to get some profit too because of our transfer. Some of them convert fiat to bitcoin is not because he or she wants to get some bitcoin, they are doing that just because they want to invest in every aspect that they can, so they can earn a lot from every investments that they made
But still it affect banks because instead people will save from the bank or keeping it in the bank they more likely to convert it into bitcoin and keep it in their wallet. Now banks will loss customers.

Are you for sure? If there is no bank there would not be any bitcoin so bank have a great role in this entire world. And you sure that everyone gonna convert it to bitcoin since the price is volatile, may be some of them will but not with all their fiat. They must think twice to put all of their earning in this volatile investment
I didn't say that all bank will closed if bitcoin will replace or add as a worldwide currency. I said that bitcoin can affect banks because of the followings: ( Read my Second to the last post.)


Lets say that not all bank will closed if bitcoin will replace fiat. So how about other bank that didnt accept bitcoin? Bank that only accepted fiat and bank that accepted bitcoin must be balance in order to not lose any customer so if there is no balance how are you going to do? I dont think that will be an easy task to do when there are only left few banks that accepted fiat
5653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gaming on the Blockchain on: May 31, 2015, 04:53:47 AM
not to mention that he still not understanding, because we are not talking about faucets by any means, he really need to watch a game of Starcraft 2 before we can continue this conversation...

Yes I know that this is game but I just want a compare to faucet, is this worth to play as a game or we can just do this like faucets claim after you get some resources because I know that Starcraft game is not easy to play and need a lot of time to earn about the gas and everything that need to build your base to become strong

That's why this game need to be a fun game, so although we don't earn so much Bitcoin but we spent our time for fun Smiley

The point is we need to play this game to earn a lot so why should it be fun? Altough it is not fun since the payout is good I think everyone gonna play it like crazy. That is just wasting time not a fun time to play

again it's not about earning, it's about playing video game and earning something, it's all about fun... when you play gta5/random moba/battlefield 4, you do it for the earning? maybe you are not a gaming guy, because otherwise you would have already realized, what we are talking about

You mean we are playing this game on blockchain just for fun? Is that the real purpose of them make this game in blockchain? With a low earning there wont be much players there to play this game actually. Im gaming guy but usually I just play and later I earn a lot from what I lose mostly my time to play game so its worth it. My question is "Is this game worth enough to play with low earning?"
5654  Economy / Economics / Re: [Chart] Here is my prediction about Bitcoin Price till 1st Dec 2017 on: May 31, 2015, 04:49:40 AM
With the Current unstoppable FUD out there around Bitcoin occasioned by Gavin news we may not go to 0 but easily in the next months prices will half so therefore I have no other choice but to join the FUD.. Sell now SELL before you regret!

I dont think there will halving prices for the next month because there are many people is in FUD so they wont do anything until the price is going back to usual price. That is what they must do, let the price stagnant for now and do other things except buying
5655  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Price Technical Analysis (28/5/2015) on: May 31, 2015, 04:43:22 AM
I am considering stagnant situation a good thing for bitcoin since it helps bitcoin grows more in the long-term and more people come to bitcoin era.

I dont think that stagnant situation is a good thing for bitcoin in this time, because with the stagnant we can't even do anything with our bitcoin and the price wont raise to high so people wont got any profit from it. May be for some newbie they have a chance to buying in low but for higher member I dont think they will happy with all of that

what a mentality. you can do everything you want with bitcoin at current price. the stagnation doesn't change anything. so you are only willing to use your coins if the price will sky rocket...

With the volatile price I also can do anything without any concern of it. So why should I wait until stagnation time to do everything that I could do? I dont think stagnant time will make your coin value going high and grow your bitcoin. Stagnation doesnt affected your bitcoin at all
5656  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gaming on the Blockchain on: May 30, 2015, 05:29:43 PM
not to mention that he still not understanding, because we are not talking about faucets by any means, he really need to watch a game of Starcraft 2 before we can continue this conversation...

Yes I know that this is game but I just want a compare to faucet, is this worth to play as a game or we can just do this like faucets claim after you get some resources because I know that Starcraft game is not easy to play and need a lot of time to earn about the gas and everything that need to build your base to become strong

That's why this game need to be a fun game, so although we don't earn so much Bitcoin but we spent our time for fun Smiley

The point is we need to play this game to earn a lot so why should it be fun? Altough it is not fun since the payout is good I think everyone gonna play it like crazy. That is just wasting time not a fun time to play
5657  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is Bitcoin value more Volatile? on: May 30, 2015, 03:40:25 PM
It will always be volatile because of reward halving every 4 years. If FED cut new money supply by half every 4 years, it will cause some shock for sure

The halving is a good thing because hopefully and in theory that should make bitcoin's value increase. I think we can all agree that the value increasing couldn't possibly be a bad thing. As long as it keeps creeping up gradually everything is rosey but it's when it falls or a bubble bursts which causes panic.

Yes its true halving will make value of bitcoin increase and that is a great thing when the value is going up and higher and the low of bitcoin producing so the price will going high but I saw near the end of month the price suddenly drop, I didnt know what happened to the value

I don't think it's a certainty, hence why I said in theory. If less people are involved or there's little demand for bitcoin it wont do anything positive. I'm also not sure if the last halving had a positive impact on the price or not, but hopefully by the time it comes bitcoins demand will have increased so we'll see positive gains.

Let us ait for that time. I guess the price will stay the same until the end of this year and after that hope it will going rise again since the halving is already done. May be it will have some positive impact but I guess that will not that much
5658  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Price Technical Analysis (28/5/2015) on: May 30, 2015, 03:20:56 PM
I am considering stagnant situation a good thing for bitcoin since it helps bitcoin grows more in the long-term and more people come to bitcoin era.

I dont think that stagnant situation is a good thing for bitcoin in this time, because with the stagnant we can't even do anything with our bitcoin and the price wont raise to high so people wont got any profit from it. May be for some newbie they have a chance to buying in low but for higher member I dont think they will happy with all of that
5659  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is Bitcoin value more Volatile? on: May 30, 2015, 03:14:39 PM
It will always be volatile because of reward halving every 4 years. If FED cut new money supply by half every 4 years, it will cause some shock for sure

The halving is a good thing because hopefully and in theory that should make bitcoin's value increase. I think we can all agree that the value increasing couldn't possibly be a bad thing. As long as it keeps creeping up gradually everything is rosey but it's when it falls or a bubble bursts which causes panic.

Yes its true halving will make value of bitcoin increase and that is a great thing when the value is going up and higher and the low of bitcoin producing so the price will going high but I saw near the end of month the price suddenly drop, I didnt know what happened to the value
5660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lucy Liu is into bitcoin on: May 30, 2015, 03:01:41 PM
just sayin...

http://www.coindesk.com/block-chain-summit-reveals-lucy-liu-as-blockchain-tech-advocate/

i always thought she was cool but now she's even cooler.

But there is no proof that she is really using it. If she is using blockchain I gues this bitcoin will really become mainstream to everyone and that will make bitcoin price to skyrocketting. There is only a little bit news about she is talking about it and that is media talking not she is talking right away so I guess we can't believe it 100%
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