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5721  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Je suis fini: Charlie Hebdo cartoonist announces retirement on: May 19, 2015, 04:11:37 PM
I don't blame him to be honest, but retiring doesn't mean he's letting the terrorists win. What is he expected to do? Draw Mohammed for the rest of his life or until he gets killed by one of them?


No one is blaming the dude.


5722  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 19, 2015, 04:10:36 PM


Reading this thread on and off, I am coming to really appreciate some of the peaceful, moderate Muslims and want nothing more than to participate as equals in society. I have not read too many times where Muslims were afraid to criticize the extremists for there insane views (I had previously viewed the silence as support). It is refreshing to hear from your Muslims that, in fact, are vocal about believing in their faiths, but at the same time, able to stand up and say those extremists are not "us" (Islam) and do not represent "our" (Islamic) values.
I know it is not often that one changes their view or generalizations on entire group, therefore I think those of you that represent modern and peaceful Islam, not stuck in the "old", outdated, violent traditions. You have changed my views and I enjoy reading you well thought out, well-written responses.

Thank everybody involved in this important debate. I'm not much of a participator, but do follow this thread and have an open mind to opinions that traditionally have dissented from my own.

Blessing to everybody wishing for peace!
-tins



Indonesian Military Chief Defends “Two-Finger” Virginity Tests for Female Recruits

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/indonesias-military-chief-defends-virginity-tests-female-recruits-n360626

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/05/17/407526194/indonesian-military-chief-defends-virginity-tests-for-female-recruits








The commander of Indonesia’s armed forces believes that invasive virginity tests for female recruits are a good thing and the only way to gauge the women’s morality.

Asked for his response to growing international condemnation of the practice, Gen. Moeldoko insisted to reporters at the State Palace in Jakarta on Friday that the so-called two-finger test was one of the requirements for women joining the Indonesian Military, or TNI.

“So what’s the problem? It’s a good thing, so why criticize it?” he said.

He conceded, though, that there was no direct link between a woman being a virgin and her abilities as a member of the armed forces, but insisted that virginity was a gauge of a woman’s morality – one of the three key traits he said a woman must have to serve in the TNI, along with high academic aptitude and physical strength.

The virginity test “is a measure of morality. There’s no other way” to determine a person’s morality, Moeldoko claimed.

His statements came a day after the group Human Rights Watch urged Indonesia to abolish the practice, pointing out that international treaties had described it as degrading and cruel.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/indonesian-military-chief-defends-two-finger-virginity-tests-for-female-recruits/



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5723  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: May 19, 2015, 04:00:45 PM
Islam is the best religion on earth and that is why so many people convert to it. If you understand the core of it you will never say a bad word about it. The Korean is the best book ever if you follow it, you will never have a dark day again.Terrorism is not Islamic and condemed by billions of muslims.






5724  Other / Politics & Society / Je suis fini: Charlie Hebdo cartoonist announces retirement on: May 19, 2015, 03:54:33 PM



Last month, Renald “Luz” Luzier announced that he would no longer draw Mohammed for the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, saying “it no longer interests me.” Allahpundit found this declaration curious, especially Luz’ contention at the time that “the terrorists did not win,” and Luz’ focus on nationalist exploitation of the attacks rather than the attacks themselves.

It looks like the terrorists did win after all:


Cartoonist Renald Luzier, who drew the newspaper’s first cover after the Jan. 7 attack killed 12 people, said in an interview Tuesday in the daily Liberation that each issue is “torture, because the others are no longer there.” He will leave in September.

“The time came when it was just all too much to bear. There was next to nobody to draw the cartoons… Every print-run was torture because the others are no longer there,” said the cartoonist, who is known widely in France as Luz.



The CBS report also includes a tidbit that might have contributed to Luz’ despair. In the aftermath of the attacks, the magazine got €4.3 million in donations, and there appears to be dissension between staff and management on how to spend it. The publisher has announced that they will have a special commission make that decision, which seems pretty dysfunctional for a relatively small operation that one would expect to have been united in tragedy.

The terrorists got what they wanted out of the attacks, and are still getting what they want. They slaughtered the magazine’s staff and got worldwide attention to their depravity. They got one of the survivors to publicly announce he would no longer draw the cartoons that they dislike, and now they got him to quit altogether.

I don’t blame Luzier a bit for hanging up his pen at Charlie Hebdo, nor for feeling so much pain while trying to continue working with so many of his colleagues gone. But perhaps Luzier would have found it more palatable had he gotten more support from his colleagues and the cognoscenti on the Left, instead of having them rip Luzier and his dead colleagues for having brought it on themselves for the “crime” of offending others. That’s the victory won by terrorists; Charlie Hebdo was the battlefield on which they won it.


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/19/je-suis-fini-charlie-hebdo-cartoonist-announces-retirement/


5725  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 19, 2015, 01:25:21 PM



State Department plans to release Hillary Clinton's emails in January 2016




This. 12 times...



The State Department is proposing a deadline of January 2016 to complete its review and public release of 55,000 pages of emails former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton exchanged on a private server and turned over to her former agency last December.

The proposal came Monday night in a document related to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit Vice News filed in January seeking all of Clinton’s emails.

“The Department’s plan … would result in its review being completed by the end of the year. To factor in the holidays, however, the Department would ask the Court to adopt a proposed completion date of January 15, 2016,” State’s acting director of Information Programs and Services John Hackett said in a declaration filed in U.S. District Court in Washington.

“The Department understands the considerable public’s [sic] interest in these records and is endeavoring to complete the review and production of them as expeditiously as possible. The collection is, however, voluminous and, due to the breadth of topics, the nature of the communications, and the interests of several agencies, presents several challenges,” Hackett added.

The controversy over Clinton’s private email account led to a turbulent start for her presidential campaign, which she announced last month. She has said she wants the emails public and is eager for State to release them as quickly as possible. Clinton said she turned over all work-related emails to State, but acknowledged that she had erased a roughly equal number of emails her lawyers deemed private.

“I want the public to see my email. I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible,” Clinton tweeted on March 4.

The State Department’s proposal, however, could mean a delay of almost 13 months between the time Clinton turned over some of her records and the bulk of those emails being made public.

Soon after the New York Times revealed in March that Clinton had exclusively used a private email account as secretary of state, State Department spokespeople repeatedly said that they expected the review of the Clinton records to take “several months.” They did not immediately respond to messages Monday night seeking an explanation of why that estimate was so off base.

Hackett said 12 State staffers have been assigned full-time to reviewing the Clinton emails and that it took until sometime this month to scan in the records, which were provided on paper by Clinton in 12 “banker’s boxes” in December. He said the scanning process took five weeks and was “complicated” by some of the printouts of Clinton emails being double-sided.

Hackett also disclosed that personnel from the National Archives have been helping State determine which of the emails Clinton delivered to her former agency are official and which are actually personal. State officials have said at least some of the emails she provided are clearly personal.

“In consultation with the National Archives and Records Administration, the Department also conducted a page-by-page review of the documents to identify, designate, mark, and inventory entirely personal correspondence, i.e., those documents that are not federal records, included within the 55,000 pages,” he wrote.

State Department officials have reaffirmed in recent weeks that they plan an earlier disclosure of a batch of the emails provided to a House committee investigating the Benghazi attacks. However, the department’s spokespeople have said only that the initial release will come “soon,” declining to be more specific about the timing of that first release.

Asked by POLITICO Friday when that Libya-related batch of records should emerge, State spokesman Jeff Rathke was vague. “I don’t have an update to share. But yes, we’re aware that there’s interest out there, certainly,” he said at a daily briefing for reporters.

State Department lawyers have complained in court of a “crushing burden” of FOIA requests as well as at least 79 FOIA lawsuits pending against the department. They have also cited the need to prioritize the Clinton email project as a reason for delays in other FOIA cases.

The Iowa caucuses are due to be held Feb. 1, 2016 — just two weeks after the proposed release of Clinton’s emails.

A Clinton campaign spokesman had no immediate comment Monday night on State’s proposal.

Whether to accept State’s proposal will be up to Judge Rudolph Contreras, who is overseeing the Vice News suit, as well as other judges overseeing several other cases seeking narrower slices of Clinton’s emails as secretary of state.



http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/state-department-wont-release-hillary-clintons-emails-until-january-2016-118078.html


5726  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 19, 2015, 01:14:43 PM

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Smiley

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.




Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread Wink looove Wink hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 Smiley





@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.


In Christianity, in the Bible, Jesus asked what the greatest law was. This is the greatest law regarding everything. The answer is, "Love God above all things" and the second is, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus went on to tell the parable of the good Samaritan to show that your neighbor is anyone who is around you.

Does Islam say to love God above all things? Does it say to love anybody who might be your neighbor, as much as you love yourself?

You don't need to be hateful or be spreading hate to show the truth about Islam. Wherever they spread the Quran and their prophetic writings, they are spreading the hate themselves. Warning about them is showing love.

Smiley

Yes. In Islam, you should love God above all things.

About neighbours:

The Holy Prophet said: "That man is not from me who sleeps contentedly while his neighbour sleeps hungry."
 
Al-Imam `Ali ibn al-Husayn (a. s.) in his Risalat al-Huquq, said:
“These are your duties towards your neighbour: Protect his interests when he is absent; show him respect when he is present; help him when he is inflicted with any injustice. Do not remain on the look-out to detect his faults; and if, by any chance, you happen to know any undesirable thing about him, hide it from others; and, at the same time, try to desist him from improper habits, if there is any chance that he will listen to you. Never leave him alone at any calamity. Forgive him, if he has done any wrong. In short, live with him a noble life, based on the highest Islamic ethical code.”

Narrated by Ibn Umar and Aisha (May Allah be pleased with them) saying that the Messenger of Allah said:

"Angel Jibril advised me continuously to take care of the neighbour till I thought that Allah is to make him an inheritor."

Narrated by Abu Zarr Al-Ghaffari (May Allah be pleased with him) saying that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

O Abu Zarr! Whenever you cook food, increase its contents, and take care of your neighbours.   [Muslim]

Prophet (pbuh) said:

In the name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer, In the Name of Allah, he is not a believer. They asked him, who is he O Messenger of Allah! He said: It is he whose neighbor is not safe of him.    [Agreed]

Every forty houses are your neighbours: The ones in front of you, the ones from the back, the ones on the right and the ones on the left.   [Tahhawi]

In another Hadith the Prophet (pbuh) explains the rights and obligations toward a neighbour:

The rights of the neighbour is that, when he is sick you visit him; when he dies, you go to his funeral; when he is poor you lend him (money); when he is in need you protect him; when he is in happiness you congratulate him; when he is struck with a calamity, you condole him; don't raise your building above his to cut off the wind from him; don't harm him with the good smell of your food unless you let him have part of it.   [Tabarani]

In another Hadith, the Prophet (pbuh) explained some of the causes of happiness to the individuals:

Among the happiness of a Muslim is a good neighbour, and wide house, and a relaxing transportation...    [Ahmad & Al-Hakim]

There are many more hadiths about neighbors.

I suspect that there are many reasonably Islam-ignorant Muslims that help their Christian neighbors.

Smiley

This a perfect evidence to my words "BADecker knows nothing about Islam and is spreading lies to spread hatred to tell Christianity is ultimate religion". Again, I have no problem with Christians.


Is islam the ultimate religion then?


5727  Other / Politics & Society / John Kerry: Internet 'Needs Rules to Be Able to Flourish and Work Properly' on: May 19, 2015, 04:04:14 AM







In a speech today in South Korea, Secretary of State John Kerry said that the Internet “needs rules to be able to flourish and work properly.” This, according to Kerry, is necessary even for “a technology founded on freedom.”

Speaking on behalf of the Obama administration, Kerry said that Internet policy is “a key component of our foreign policy.”

Kerry made his remarks in the context of talking about how international law is applicable to the Internet. “As I’ve mentioned, the basic rules of international law apply in cyberspace. Acts of aggression are not permissible. And countries that are hurt by an attack have a right to respond in ways that are appropriate, proportional, and that minimize harm to innocent parties. We also support a set of additional principles that, if observed, can contribute substantially to conflict prevention and stability in time of peace. We view these as universal concepts that should be appealing to all responsible states, and they are already gaining traction,” said Kerry.

“First, no country should conduct or knowingly support online activity that intentionally damages or impedes the use of another country’s critical infrastructure. Second, no country should seek either to prevent emergency teams from responding to a cybersecurity incident, or allow its own teams to cause harm. Third, no country should conduct or support cyber-enabled theft of intellectual property, trade secrets, or other confidential business information for commercial gain. Fourth, every country should mitigate malicious cyber activity emanating from its soil, and they should do so in a transparent, accountable and cooperative way. And fifth, every country should do what it can to help states that are victimized by a cyberattack.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/kerry-internet-needs-rules-be-able-flourish-and-work-properly_949526.html





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Bitcoin = freedom of speech = internet = needs to be controlled...





5728  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green Energy. DIY and other stuff. on: May 19, 2015, 03:09:16 AM
Inside the world of green energy, solar panels are the worst expensive and inefficient way for it. Check the Practical Guide to Free Energy Devices on Google, there you will find lots of interesting projects: Magnet motors, Gravity systems, HHO cells, Pulsed Systems... If you want a nice DIY you should check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Pelqzqd_Y&list=PLVa8_JURRrbQtPf5qUANPYlBwfso2-WLu&index=4

Sorry for the language


That video was really cool. How big of a machine would one need to recharge a phone I wonder.


5729  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 19, 2015, 02:57:48 AM



Clinton Friend’s Memos on Libya Draw Scrutiny to Politics and Business




When the Clintons last occupied the White House, Sidney Blumenthal cast himself in varied roles: speechwriter, in-house intellectual and press corps whisperer. Republicans added another, accusing Mr. Blumenthal of spreading gossip to discredit Republican investigators, and forced him to testify during President Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial.

Now, as Hillary Rodham Clinton embarks on her second presidential bid, Mr. Blumenthal’s service to the Clintons is again under the spotlight. Representative Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, a Republican who is leading the congressional committee investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, plans to subpoena Mr. Blumenthal, 66, for a private transcribed interview.

Mr. Gowdy’s chief interest, according to people briefed on the inquiry, is a series of memos that Mr. Blumenthal — who was not an employee of the State Department — wrote to Mrs. Clinton about events unfolding in Libya before and after the death of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi. According to emails obtained by The New York Times, Mrs. Clinton, who was secretary of state at the time, took Mr. Blumenthal’s advice seriously, forwarding his memos to senior diplomatic officials in Libya and Washington and at times asking them to respond. Mrs. Clinton continued to pass around his memos even after other senior diplomats concluded that Mr. Blumenthal’s assessments were often unreliable.

But an examination by The Times suggests that Mr. Blumenthal’s involvement was more wide-ranging and more complicated than previously known, embodying the blurry lines between business, politics and philanthropy that have enriched and vexed the Clintons and their inner circle for years.

While advising Mrs. Clinton on Libya, Mr. Blumenthal, who had been barred from a State Department job by aides to President Obama, was also employed by her family’s philanthropy, the Clinton Foundation, to help with research, “message guidance” and the planning of commemorative events, according to foundation officials. During the same period, he also worked on and off as a paid consultant to Media Matters and American Bridge, organizations that helped lay the groundwork for Mrs. Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

Much of the Libya intelligence that Mr. Blumenthal passed on to Mrs. Clinton appears to have come from a group of business associates he was advising as they sought to win contracts from the Libyan transitional government. The venture, which was ultimately unsuccessful, involved other Clinton friends, a private military contractor and one former C.I.A. spy seeking to get in on the ground floor of the new Libyan economy.

The projects — creating floating hospitals to treat Libya’s war wounded and temporary housing for displaced people, and building schools — would have required State Department permits, but foundered before the business partners could seek official approval.

It is not clear whether Mrs. Clinton or the State Department knew of Mr. Blumenthal’s interest in pursuing business in Libya; a State Department spokesman declined to say. Many aspects of Mr. Blumenthal’s involvement in the planned Libyan venture remain unclear. He declined repeated requests to discuss it.

But interviews with his associates and a review of previously unreported correspondence suggest that — once again — it may be difficult to determine where one of Mr. Blumenthal’s jobs ended and another began.

Mr. Gowdy’s committee on the attacks in Benghazi hopes to ask Mr. Blumenthal who, if anyone, was paying him to prepare the memos for Mrs. Clinton and whether they were among his responsibilities at the Clinton Foundation. The committee’s investigators are also interested in whether the planned business venture in Libya posed any potential conflicts for Mr. Blumenthal or Mrs. Clinton, whose aides the business partners sought meetings with in early 2012.

The Libya venture came together in 2011 when David L. Grange, a retired Army major general, joined with a newly formed New York firm, Constellations Group, to pursue business leads in Libya. Constellations Group, led by a professional fund-raiser and philanthropist named Bill White, was to provide the leads. Mr. Grange’s company, Osprey Global Solutions, based in North Carolina, would put “boots on the ground to see if there was an opportunity to do business,” Mr. Grange said in an interview.

The men had little experience in Libya. Exactly how Mr. White was to procure leads in Libya is unclear. He spent much of his career as an executive at the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum, and had raised money for politicians, businesses and charities. His biography also describes Mr. White as a consultant for Aquahydrate, a bottled-water company whose backers include Ron Burkle, the billionaire investor who had been a close friend of the Clintons.

“We were thinking, ‘O.K., Qaddafi is dead, or about to be, and there’s opportunities,’ ” Mr. White said in a brief telephone interview. He added, “We thought, ‘Let’s try to see who we know there.’ ”

Mr. White declined to answer follow-up questions about what role Mr. Blumenthal was playing in the business venture. But Mr. Grange described Mr. Blumenthal as an adviser to Mr. White’s company, along with two other associates: Tyler Drumheller, a colorful former Central Intelligence Agency official, and Cody Shearer, a longtime Clinton friend.

“I just know that he was working with the team to work on business development,” Mr. Grange said of Mr. Blumenthal.

In the spring of 2011, Mr. Blumenthal, Mr. Drumheller and Mr. Shearer were helping plan what was to be Mr. Grange’s first trip to Libya, according to emails stolen by a Romanian hacker and published by Gawker and ProPublica in March. Mr. Blumenthal said he had been advised not to comment on the correspondence because the theft remained under investigation by the F.B.I.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html


5730  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 19, 2015, 02:51:22 AM





Newly Released Documents Indicate Key Hillary Clinton Claim on Emails Was Not True









Emails published by the New York Times Monday indicate that Hillary Clinton used more than one private email address during her time as secretary of state, contradicting previous claims from the Democratic presidential contender’s office.

Multiple emails show Clinton used account “hrod17@clintonemail.com” while serving in the Obama administration as secretary of state.

Clinton’s attorney, David Kendall, had previously told Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) that that particular address had not “existed during Secretary Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State.”

Another statement from Clinton’s office said she only used one address during her time as secretary of state.

“Secretary Clinton used one email account during her tenure at State (with the exception of her first weeks in office while transitioning from an email account she had previously used),” it said. “In March 2013, Gawker published the email address she used while Secretary, and so she had to change the address on her account.”

Clinton served as secretary of state from Jan. 2009 to Feb. 2013. The emails she sent with the “hrod17@clintonemail.com” were sent in 2011 and 2012, according to the documents released by the Times.

A representative for Clinton’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from TheBlaze.

Republican National Chairman Reince Priebus tweeted Monday evening that the news proved Clinton “misled public about the use of only one secret email address.”

Earlier this year, it was reported Clinton may have violated federal rules by exclusively using a personal email address to conduct all official government business while serving as secretary of state.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/05/18/newly-released-documents-indicate-key-hillary-clinton-claim-on-emails-was-not-true/


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/05/19/us/politics/libya-related-messages-hillary-clinton-email-account.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article&_r=0


5731  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 19, 2015, 02:45:28 AM



Hillary Clinton Supporters Actually Don't Support Hillary





Funny & sad...





5732  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 19, 2015, 02:37:22 AM
Alright folks, Rand Paul was right all along!
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FOX News reported Monday that the US was sending guns to Banias and Borj Islam, Syria before the Benghazi terrorist attack.

US Intelligence agencies were fully aware that weapons were moving from the terrorist stronghold in Libya to Syria before the attack that killed four Americans…
September 16, 2012 DIA Memo copied to the National Security Council, CIA, and others concluded the Benghazi terrorist attack was planned at least ten or more days in advance…

The memo also tied the attack to 9-11… No discussion of a demonstration or anti-Mohammad video.

US officials were aware that weapons were being shipped to Syria by the Port of Benghazi.


The US was in fact running guns from Benghazi to Syria when the annex and consulate were attacked.

Senator Rand Paul questioned Hillary Clinton about this gun running program back in January 2013 during her testimony on the Benghazi terrorist attack.


Hillary Clinton said she did not know about the program while testifying under oath.
Here is the transcript:
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Sen. Rand Paul: My question is, is the US involved in any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya?

Hillary Clinton: To Turkey? I’ll have to take that question for the record. That’s, nobody’s ever raised that with me.

Sen. Rand Paul: It’s been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and that they may have weapons. And what I’d like to know is, that annex that was close by, were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries? ANy countries, Turkey included?

Hillary Clinton: Well, Senator you’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. And, I will see what information was available.

Sen. Rand Paul: You’re saying you don’t know?

Hillary Clinton: I do not know. I don’t have any information on that.
Rand Paul accused the Obama administration in January 2013 of running guns to Syrian rebels.
Rand Paul was right.

Pics, video and more...http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/breaking-rand-paul-was-right-obama-admin-was-running-guns-to-syria-hillary-lied-under-oath/

Yes he was.

5733  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 19, 2015, 02:36:00 AM

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Smiley

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.




Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread Wink looove Wink hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


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@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.



In your case you don't care what happens to you next. That is fine.

In post #1647 there is the tale of sulaiman vali. He was a muslim. He rather not say where he lives because "they" may burn his home down. Maybe he lives alone in his home. Maybe he has a whole family. Maybe "they" will not care about his family burning down where he lives. Maybe he cannot NOT care what happen to him next.

You do not need to chose between expressing yourself or expressing yourself and be scared. It is a relief, an amazing fortune sulaiman vali cannot take for granted.


5734  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green Energy. DIY and other stuff. on: May 18, 2015, 06:53:43 PM
In my opinion, the real green energy is the nuclear energy. It involves no deforestation (unlike hydro-power), no CO2 emissions (unlike thermal energy) and it is extremely cheap compared to solar, tidal, geothermal, and wind energy. Still it is ironic that the people who oppose nuclear energy the most are the self-declared "Greens".

Well, the only problem is the waste..

The best thing would be throw it onto a rocket and fly it into the sun.

It is not economical to transport all the nuclear waste to outer space. IMO, the best idea would be to contain all the waste in giant lead containers, and then dump them to some uninhabited and remote region. They can be dumped in the uninhabited regions of the Sahara, can be dumped in the Mariana Trench, or they can be even dumped in underground mines, which are more than 10,000 m deep.

Never in the ocean if a leak should happen..

But yes.. Abandoned mines could be good.
But still its not a solution that can last that  long again :/


Re read what you said earlier about balancing the bad and the good of a solar panel solution versus something else. Now google how a solar panel is made. Any waste created? And if yes how easy it is to recylce that waste made from creating solar panels? Once a better solar panel is created what becomes of the old solar panels? Any land disturbed?Any animal displaced? The same for those batteries people love in their Tesla cars... Any rare earth material used to create those batteries? Use google. For at least 2 hrs. Read. Learn. And please come back and tell us what you've learn YOURSELF about the balanced act of the good and the bad regarding the solar panel solutions we have right now. From A to Z: how are those panels made and who makes them and at what cost for their employees, nature, etc, etc.

Of course graphene is on the horizon so as soon as we will be able to make km and km of graphene for pennies then the concept of a massive fossil fuel need will vanish. The nuclear solution will still be a valid one though, as the cheapest green energy available.

Come back with a new thread and call it "Green Energy. DIY and other stuff. THE SEQUEL" or something so I remember clicking on it.


P.S.:  try to use https://www.google.com/ and not the one automatically assigned to your country, language, etc.

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5735  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evidence exposes Boston Marathon bombings as US government false flag on: May 18, 2015, 06:31:24 PM
In another one of your threads it was MOSAD?

I guess the conspiracy is so big it includes everyone except the OP?


You forgot one group of people



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDKvWiToj8Y


5736  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 18, 2015, 06:14:19 PM

Actually, I don't think he "hate" Muslims. He want to "spread" hatred and tell "come to Christianity". (no offence)

LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church. I have seen so many Christians who just think about themselves and care a damn about others. *Show offs* No religion is good or bad but it's the person who is good/bad. Spreading hatred gets you hate in return and spreading love gets you love.


Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread Wink looove Wink hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 Smiley

5737  Other / Politics & Society / NEW JUDICIAL WATCH MEMOS REVEAL OBAMA LIES ABOUT BENGHAZI on: May 18, 2015, 05:49:42 PM



Thanks to Judicial Watch obtaining new memos, Fox News is now reporting that the Obama administration knew that Benghazi was being used as a hub for the transfer of lethal weapons to Syria back in 2012. Former CIA Deputy Director Mike Morell suggested to Bret Baier that the CIA wasn’t doing the transferring, but was watching someone else do it.

According to another memo dated September 16, 2012, just FIVE DAYS after the attack on the ‘consulate’ in Benghazi, the Obama administration via the DNI concluded that the terrorist attack had been planned at least 10 days before the attack occurred and that it wasn’t a coincidence that it happened on the anniversary of 9/11. If you recall, the Obama administration was lying about it, saying it was a demonstration against a film about the Prophet Muhammad that got out of control. They were saying this on the very same day this DNI memo went out to different agencies including the National Security Council and the State Department.

They not only concluded that it was planned ten days in advance, they also wrote why the attack was planned in this same Sept. 16 memo:


“The intention was to attack the consulate and kill as many Americans as possible to seek revenge for the U.S. kill of Aboyahiye (Alaliby) in Pakistan and in memorial of the 11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center buildings.”



One last thing this report reveals is another memo that shows the Obama administration not only knew ISIS was a threat, but predicted the formation of a caliphate 17 months before Obama compared ISIS to a junior varsity team.


http://therightscoop.com/new-judicial-watch-memos-reveal-obama-lies-about-benghazi/




5738  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 18, 2015, 03:36:08 PM






https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1063137.0





http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/









5739  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 18, 2015, 02:26:22 AM





http://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/may/17/losing-their-religion-british-ex-muslims-non-believers-hidden-crisis-faith


5740  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 18, 2015, 02:15:44 AM



At the mercy of the climate jihadists


Years ago, I heard the Jewish comedian Jackie Mason performing in Beverly Hills, riffing on the primary motivation of wealthy liberals. They do things, he suggested, not because they actually accomplished anything, but because “I have to look at myself in the mirror.”

Mason was prophetic, particularly regarding here in California, where progressive politics – outside of promoting race and gender grievances – has boiled down to a single-minded attachment to slowing climate change.

To satisfy the gentry’s urgent need to feel noble and better than others, we are embarked on an ever-more extreme jihad to battle global warming, with the state, pursuant to an executive order from Gov. Jerry Brown, committed to reducing greenhouse gas emissions to 40 percent below 1990 levels by 2030 – and 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050 – versus the previous mandate of reaching 1990 levels by 2020. It seems clear that we are about to wage a war of increasing intensity on climate change, surely not at the expense of depriving Google executives and other oligarchs their private jets, but certainly down to the last affordable single-family house or decent factory job.

Symbolic Gestures, Little Impact

Of course, environmental problems need to be addressed, but one has to wonder if current policy will actually impact global climate change. Indeed, as explained in a new report by the Chapman Center for Demographics and Policy, our current green jihad is likely to do little to nothing toward cutting global emissions – unless nations with far greater emissions adopt similar measures. The report suggests that an extreme goal of an 80 percent reduction could, ultimately, make things worse.

The report, authored by attorneys David Friedman and Jennifer Hernandez, carefully analyzes the projected impact of California’s Draconian climate change legislation. Simply put, in the most basic measurement, our greenhouse gas emissions simply don’t matter much. In 2011, California accounted for less than 1 percent of global CO2-equivalent emissions, and less than 0.065 percent of the worldwide annual CO2e emissions increase during 1990-2011. Given that California is already a low-emitting state, in large part due to its mild climate, even if California cut back to zero greenhouse-gas emissions, it would have almost no measurable affect on climate change risks.

The increase in GHG emissions comes mostly from elsewhere, even within the United States. But most emissions growth is linked to increases in developing countries, such as China and India. From 2000-11, global CO2e emissions increased by more than 40 percent. Over the same period, California’s CO2e emissions rose by 2 percent and declined by approximately 10.7 percent from 2007-11. Despite population increases and economic growth, California’s total emissions rose by roughly 8 million metric tons while global emissions increased by almost 13 billion metric tons.

Unintended Consequences

Ever the realist, at least when it comes to politics, Gov. Jerry Brown recognizes that California’s efforts are, almost by definition, largely symbolic. “We can do things in California” to fight climate change, Brown recently observed, “but if others don’t follow, it will be futile.”

The problem is that not many of our competitor states are following California’s lead, except, notably, Oregon, where the governor has been embroiled in a seamy scandal over green energy. Meanwhile, our biggest competitors – Nevada, Texas, Utah, North Carolina – do not seem anxious to join the party. They regard California’s regulatory regime as a perfect spur to lead both companies and residents out of the Golden State.

Since 1990, 3.8 million former California residents, or about equal to the populations of Oregon or Oklahoma, have moved to other parts of the country where per capita GHG levels are 50 percent higher than in California. Each job or resident that moves from California boosts net GHG levels. The cumulative net CO2e emission increases generated by the unprecedented migration of the state’s former residents has already nearly offset the GHG reduction achieved by California’s emission-reduction mandates.

Why continue?

Like any major policy initiative, the state’s climate change offensive will producers winners, although, in the short run, at least, many more losers. For one thing, the fixation on carbon-free energy has led to much higher electricity prices, 43.5 percent above the national average in December 2014 according to the U.S. Energy Information Agency. This is bad news for industries that need electricity, and is one reason why many manufacturers go elsewhere.

It’s not too great for commuters, either. As of May 12, California’s average cost per gallon of regular unleaded gasoline was $3.73, the highest in the country – including even Hawaii and Alaska – and more than a dollar higher than the national average, $2.66. Gas prices on average are still about 21 percent lower than a year ago in the U.S., but 11 percent lower in California.

The state’s climate policy, particularly in its new, more militant form, also is likely to reduce California’s job creation. Although enjoying a brief resurgence, California employment has consistently underperformed other states over the longer term.


http://www.ocregister.com/articles/california-661936-climate-emissions.html


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