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5781  Economy / Speculation / Re: When Bitcoin 100 000? on: September 26, 2018, 08:28:35 PM
It all sounds good and statistics can work in certain situations and for some
calculations but there is a factor which cannot be calculated, human emotions!

I believe there will be further adoption in time but anything can happen.
5782  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EXPECTATION Vs. REALITY Bitcoin in the Eyes of the People! on: September 26, 2018, 06:41:43 AM
well at some point people started advertising bitcoin as "to the moon", "HODL", and stuff like that and then price went up too fast and too big like it usually does so we ended up with a large number of people who were only interested in making profit (when to buy and when to sell).
i don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. people who started like that can eventually see the real potential of bitcoin as the decentralized currency and see the other side of the coin to.

Good points made IMO.
Bitcoins volatility really did attract a lot of "investment" in 2017, so much so
that the frenzy pushed the value up to $20k. A lot of those have cashed out
but there is still big interest in bitcoin from those still in and those looking in
and waiting for their next opportunity.
5783  Economy / Economics / Re: Google is ending its sweeping ban on cryptocurrency-related advertising. on: September 25, 2018, 08:17:54 PM
I have mixed feelings.

On one hand i think it wont matter much other than more revenue for google.
Crypto will continue on with or without google ads because there are other
places online people get their crypto  info.

On the other hand the fact that google will only accept regulated sites advertise
means less people will be subjected to scam sites and will get the impression
the crypto space is cleaner and safer.

Its a tough one to call really
5784  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Have you checked on bitcoin price as many times as I do? on: September 25, 2018, 12:13:59 PM
When i used to day trade i would check the markets that many times in a day
but now i dont bother. I wont be selling my bitcoin based on the FIAT price
even if it goes to $50k.

I only spend bitcoin when i need to buy something, the majority is held longterm.
5785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Art Exhibition in Paris to Celebrate Bitcoin’s Tenth Birthday on: September 24, 2018, 06:25:56 AM
This sounds great. Some of the work on the website is fantastic, some i have
seen before and some is new to me. It shows bitcoin has captured the imagination
of artists around the world (including myself). This exhibition will also increase
the awareness of others to bitcoin.
5786  Economy / Economics / Re: Entrepreneurship is the only way out on: September 23, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Its too simple to say everyone should be an entrepreneur, there will always have
to be employees and job seekers, without them an entrepreneur would stay only
as a "one man band."

Becoming an entrepreneur is not for everyone and there are a lot of considerations
to be mindful of, start up capital, a plan, marketing, cash flow, expansion being only
a few and of course not everyone has the ruthlessness, sacrifice and commitment
to be successful.

It is a governments interest to create employment, it generates revenue and prevents
a lot of social problems. There are many countries around the world where governments
create incentives to attract companies who are willing to create employment.
5787  Economy / Economics / Re: Why we must study Economics at University? on: September 23, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
I have come to realise too late in life how important economics is.
IMO it should be taught as early as possible along with other very
important life lessons like, swimming, health, first aid and life saving.
5788  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You think we're deviating from bitcoin's philosophy? on: September 23, 2018, 07:25:51 AM
Personally i think Satoshi had envisioned this would happen to bitcoin. The mind
which could create bitcoin surely could figure how people would react to a rise
in value and if so, he was right.

It is a decentralised entity so it is only natural that it be used in whatever way the
majority decide, it is indeed like evolution.
5789  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PONZI SCAMS ARE STARTING TO RISE on: September 23, 2018, 07:16:33 AM
It is too easy for these schemes to start up and dissapear at will. They are targeted
at newcomers to crypto and to a lesser extent gamblers. The operators know that
many newcomers dont have economic and/or education because crypto can be
accessed by anyone.

The rewards in the schemes are very attractive and for the newcomer very alluring.
The design of the sites are very proffessional with all sorts of tools to make them
appear legitimate.

Its a pity that not all people can see through the scam and high rewards.
5790  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-09-16]$720 Million Bitcoin Wallet Has Woken Up on: September 22, 2018, 03:52:06 PM
I honestly don't care who or what is moving these values. It's none of our business.

IF these coins are being dumped, be happy that we're getting rid of yet another old hand being able to implode this market at any time of the day. It only makes the market stronger in the long run.
Suppose to say the same thing neither those coins being accumulated on illegal histories then its non of our business and let those people who do love to trace them up do their own job. Even if we do know whose actually holding up those coins then what thing we would achieved? It might give some impact but it would just temporal.Just amazed on how big those bitcoins being stored up for 4 years though.

Whoa that is some accumulation of coins. I find it amazing too how
that wallet has sprang into life. Amazing in a curiosity way its none of
my business though.

It maybe the case that many of the known dormant accounts are only
temporarily dormant with passwords and keys to hand and useable
any time in the future.

Intriguing.
5791  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: If you're still in crypto, what's your background? on: September 22, 2018, 07:12:14 AM
I work in Sales, administration, graphic design and space planning and design
for office spaces. And have done for about 22 years.
5792  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An Epic Journey of BTC on: September 22, 2018, 07:02:51 AM
To The Moon and back to the ground:2017.9~2018.9
What do you think?


The terminology is incorrect.

In the grand scale of bitcoins expected life, Januarys high value will be nothing more
than a blip. "To the moon" hasnt happened yet and may take a number of years to
happen so please dont be so short sighted.

The current state of bitcoin could hardly be classed as being "on the ground" there are
people on this forum who were getting mightily excited when bitcoin was approaching
$100.

We need to look forwards not backwards
5793  Economy / Economics / Re: WORLD CRISIS IN 2018 on: September 21, 2018, 06:01:07 PM
By 2018 the world economy is falling,

We are getting close to that, but not there yet.

there is currently chaos in the economy around the world.

Umm.. nope, you're incorrect.

there are even some countries declared bankrupt by the world this year.

Bankrupt countries, or at least at the edge of bankruptcy, they are at the horizon for some time. Publicly declared bankrupt? No. That's bad business and it won't happen.

a country that is able to survive in conditions like now only countries that have a large gold stock.

Incorrect, by far. There are plenty of other ways, not only gold.

China and America are currently collecting gold from all over the world. the goal is to maintain their existence and also to survive the coming crisis.

Possibly China, but not US; US are usually overconfident on their printed paper.

I want to know whether cryptocurrency, especially bitcoin, will be affected by the current crisis? I want to hear from the seniors here.

There's no crisis, not yet.
Bitcoin will not be affected by any crisis, it works very well.
On the other hand, Bitcoin price may fall, since big investors, the real ones, may have to sell Bitcoin to save other businesses. (Edit: on the other hand, Bitcoin should rise now, before crisis, since people should buy to prepare..)

Are you sure you wanted to know anything and didn't just want to convince Bitcoiners buy gold?

Spot on, im not hearing anything about chaos in economies, ok we are hearing about trade wars
which MAY lead to something bigger but thats it.

When there are more soundings about possible crashes and such in economies Bitcoin will be a
safe haven for many.
5794  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there any chance of having one global currency? on: September 21, 2018, 05:54:33 PM
Could you see a future wherein the entire world shares one global currency, be it fiat or crypto? If I think it in a scifi kind of way, it would most probably be some digital currency that could all just use. It doesn't even have to be in this century. Maybe the next?

Erm yes, there is one already in use, anyone can use it, it knows no boundaries
or borders and the great thing is no one group, person or body controlls it!

Welcome to Bitcoin.
5795  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin is a security, a currency or a commodity? on: September 21, 2018, 05:26:43 PM
seems too many people are too ill experienced of classifications.

im laughing at all those saying "commodity". they hav no clue

anything can be a currency. even cigarettes in prison are a currency. it does not matter if only 1000 around the world use it every 10 minutes or millions. it will still be a currency if only 3 people use it a day.
so bitcoin IS a currency.

below that are classifications of it (subcategories)
bitcoin falls into the asset class

I partly agree with the classifications.
Ok it might be classed as a currency in that it is a payment system like visa
But with its own tokens.
While bitcoin is not physical it can be used as an investment like the stock exchange.
Security is a tricky one, the OP could mean something like a hedge fund against a
recession in FIAT land.

So in those 3 scenarios Bitcoin can and is all 3
5796  Economy / Economics / Re: Reliable lending in blockchain ecosystem on: September 21, 2018, 06:05:17 AM
The potential to abuse the system is massive.
If we take the idea of the OP where i am borrowing a certain bitcoin amount
and my car is put up as collateral, how can ownership of said car be properly
verified? How can the lender verify that the car is in fact a 2 year old BMW
520 and worth $35k? Supposing the ownership of the car passes to the lender
but it happens to be in London and the Lender is in Australia ?

People need to realise that bitcoin is based on a trustless system so identities
are not a big factor and that is an attractive feature to a lot of us.
5797  Economy / Economics / Re: What can be done to make bitcoin stable? on: September 20, 2018, 09:24:35 PM
The volatility of bitcoin is a devisive feature, some people dont mind it, some
are making a living from it by trading and others want a perfectly stable decentralised currency.

Because we are dealing with a decentralised entity it is going to be difficult to
control the volatility. In time as the value rises the fluctuations may become less.
5798  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is anonymity the future for bitcoin??? on: September 20, 2018, 06:40:59 AM
Any sort of anonymity will be compromised as soon as people convert bitcoin
to FIAT and/or buy bitcoin with FIAT tgrough a centralised medium, bank or card.

Its not just the stereotypical criminals etc. Who would want the anonymity factor
there are others who would want it for personal reasons but the majority of
bitcoin users today  couldnt care about it i recon.

Its primarily the end game of "how much am i going to make"
5799  Economy / Economics / Re: What manipulators want on: September 19, 2018, 10:10:02 PM
When price drops over and over everybody thinks that is bad and their invesment is going to loose or they already in loose. Generally this causes loosing hope to that coin, and people generally sell and exit from market.This maybe great for manipulators because they want to control market. right now there is a resistance to manipulators and this causes manipulators to gain less. they earn with volatility and it is decreasing as you can see in yearly graph. so best option for manips is reducing volume so that they gain more control. And for to reduce volume they create hopelessness by lowering price. When you see price is going well to high points you feel better but they cut your dreams with a steep fall like just a few days ago. investors sells or waits that cause reduced volume. And when the volume decreases they can ride the price easily.

In my view these manipulators only work by creating triggers so that they really do not control prices as a whole and at certain points, they only make FUDs at a certain time, then let the market go down until it passes the expected point, after which they also have taken step, they prepare good info to raise prices again

The manipulators may not actually be able to affect the market as much
as we think but they are able to take advantage of the FOMO and FUD in
the markets at certain times.

Its like skilled traders, to be able to react to movements and forsee what
will happen. Timing is everything.
5800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your plan for the next world wide recession. Are you planning on such? on: September 19, 2018, 10:00:16 PM
Debt is a killer. When the last recession of 2007/2008 hit i was made redundant
after 15 years in the same company. With the redundancy money i cleared all
of my debt bar my mortgage and kept my dept to a very minimum. I dont have
a credit card since 2008 and only a small personal loan on a low interest rate
which will be cleared next year.

Other than keeping my debt to a minimum and trying to stash some bitcoin i
really cant do anything else.
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