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581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: December 19, 2023, 02:52:15 PM
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Those who can't accept any risky will find it difficult to control their emotions and will likely be easily offended when in advised people closest to them about their irresponsible behavior, and in fact this case often occurs in society, especially for those who are married and there are also those who divorce just because their husband is temperamental and a gambling addicts.

Where I live it also happens frequently and the cause is gambling. However, gambling here is not online gambling which causes divorce, mostly it is cockfighting and billiards. I don't know what the betting system is in billiards, whether they play and bet or someone else plays for them. What is clear is that billiards here are not used for sport or just a hobbies, but for gambling. With the majority working as farmers and drivers, perhaps they will have more financial difficulties which will make their wives not accept their gambling activities.
582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 19, 2023, 02:35:04 PM
You're right and those stuff that you're saying is obvious already but I have to say that it's not really a good idea to say that external support is useless even if the person that's addicted or needs help in stopping from gambling doesn't want to help themselves. As much as we want all to emphasize that the right thing to happen is for a person to have the will to stop themselves in gambling, a constant support from their loved ones is a good thing even during those denial periods because that could be a factor in speeding up the process because the person that's being supported would find it in their heart to give them what their family wants and try to do a recovery.


Yes, it's like that, the best motivation is from within yourself. Just like when we first tried to gamble, we must also have the responsibility to try to stop. but of course stopping is sometimes not as easy as starting. I've had a few mistakes before, when people warned me not to play too long when winning, but I always played to the end of winning only to end up losing. From this, I feel that I must take full responsibility, both for playing and for stopping gambling. That's why I say input from other people can be useless if we don't follow it and there is rejection from ourselves
583  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Setiap harga beli Bitcoin selalu menguntungkan on: December 18, 2023, 04:49:05 PM
-snip- Jika memang untuk jangka panjang, maka menurut pemikiranku bisa melakukan entry dilevel harga berapapun, yang terpenting harus konsisten dan disiplin dalam mempertahankan plan dan target yang sudah ditentukan. Berbeda halnya jika target investasinya adalah jangka pendek, untuk penentuan posisi harus benar-benar sudah dipikirkan masak-masak (berdasarkan analisa) sehingga meminimalisir potensi CL atau bahkan melakukan tindakan panic selling.
Ini bukan perkara mudah sih buat yang niat utamanya adalah untuk mendapatkan profit dalam waktu dekat. kadang kala seseorang entry itu dari awalnya ingin panjang, keseringan liat harga, akhirnya tergoda untuk di otak-atik sehingga kepancing untuk sell. apalagi untuk entry di harga berapapun seperti yang mas sebutkan, bisa-bisa anggapan mereka, bisa beli saat pump, tapi tidak memikirkan apakah ini pumpnya bisa mencapai lebih tinggi untuk jangka panjang, atau akan semakin tenggelam jika dihold untuk waktu yang lebih lama.
584  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Anget] Yang Punya BUSD, Segera Dikonversi! on: December 18, 2023, 04:27:54 PM
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soalnya ada temen kantorku agak panik ketika dapat email gitu, sampai paranoid binance katanya mau tutup, padahal kan tidak se-ekstrem gitu. Wong cuma BUSD-nya doang karena masalah regulasi dan sebagainya.
mungkin karena mindsetnya BUSD adalah milik binance, maka mereka beranggapan jika BUSD di tutup, maka user binance akan ditinggalkan. Mungkin teman mas ini juga aktif di social media, jadi ada bertia BUSD akan ditarik, kemudian tidak membaca email atau artikel dengan seksama, dia hanya melihat sepintas dan langsung mengambil kesimpulan bahwa binancenya yang akan tutup.
585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 18, 2023, 04:15:24 PM
The most important thing to quit or control yourself in gambling is yourself, not by the self exclusion or other project.
yup, that gambler needs to give a strong push for control by himself first. Then, support from others afterward. It's also useless if support comes from close people, friends or family. If he still wants to continue betting and forgets about risk management. If it happens, then be prepared to face bad things that can destroy his life. When they experience this, then any advice will no longer be able to help them and they have to really try on their own.
586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: December 18, 2023, 04:06:33 PM
I know of someone who came back home after losing some money and used a broken bottle on his father because he shouted on him and tried to scold him for his irresponsible way of living, the father landed in a hospital but he nearly lost his life, the son later revealed that he lost a lot of money in gambling and he was so mad that he could do anything to harm anyone.
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It would be really terrible if it hurt his parents. It can be assumed that this gambler has lost his mind already. Of course, I personally will always hope that if there is a serious problem, or if I don't agree with my parents' decisions/any words, I will always follow him rather than harm him, especially to save me from gambling. Indeed, I often see violence and changes in the habits of gamblers, but around me no one has tried to take action using a broken bottle to their father.
587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots 101: Basics, Strategies, and Discussion (with poll) on: December 18, 2023, 12:29:26 PM
No matter how big you in a demo there is a huge difference if you want to win it in the real game.I found it funny that when I used to play Viking Forge game not that long ago in the demo it gave me straight away two big wins,one over x1000 and one over x6000 while in the real game only after playing hours and hours it finally gave an x1342 multiplier which was not enough to justify all my loses of before,that is why I think the same as you guys the demo is only there to make you kill time when you are bored and also win a game in order to trick you to go to real mode.

what differentiates the most between the demo and real versions is emotion. because the money used in each bet is not the money we have. It's just virtual money for playing in the demo. When he in a real game, apart from finding it difficult to win, emotional stress which can be unstable for each person can influence the desire to place a bet. especially when he have been waiting for free spins, but he can't get a single free spins until his balance runs out.
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 18, 2023, 09:36:26 AM
AC Milan really needs young players in their squad and Pioli has done that in today match which ended in great success because they were able to beat Monza with a score of 3-0. Thus AC Milan also remains in 3rd place because they are still 5 points behind Juventus who are above their ranking. But what happened to Roma, they lost again and were knocked out of the top 4. Roma are not consistent enough in every match, which is why they have difficulty remaining in the top 4.

Milan has players with an average age of under 30 yo. there are only a few above it. In the Striker position, Giroud is the oldest at 37 years old. However, Milan still have Jovic and Okafor, maybe if they both don't suffer frequent injuries, they can take over Giroud as Pioli's first choice. This season they only managed to score 3 and 2 goals. But, if they get trust from Pioli, they can provide more goals.
589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 15, 2023, 11:18:29 PM
The draw achieved by Juventus was an opportunity for Inter Milan to increase the points gap. However, Lazio could be the team that can thwart this ambition. Lazio performance has not been very good this season. Even though they only in 10th position, that doesn't mean they can't beat Inter.

In another match, AC Milan will meet AC Monza, Milan must win to reduce the gap with Juventus. So there is a chance to still be able to compete for the Scudetto.
590  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Doge menyimpan rencana besar on: December 15, 2023, 05:26:52 PM
Bagi saya dogecoin hanya meme coin yang bersinar hanya beberapa saat tidak permanen dan tidak memiliki fundamental yang kuat.hype yang terjadi pada dogecoin beberapa tahun yang lalu membuat banyak orang terjebak investasi di dalamnya, kini doge coin mungkin punya rencana besar yang belum terlihat bagaiman trafik yang akan terjadi bika bitcoin terjadi helving apakah dogecoin akan mencapai ATH baru juga.
Doge memiliki kans untuk mengikuti tren yang terjadi pada Bitcoin karena Doge diperdagangkan tidak hanya pada pair dengan fiat/stable. Jika pair DOGE/BTC mengalami kenaikan, meskipun tidak memiliki fundamental kuat, maka ini akan memengaruhi harga pada market pair fiat/stable. Tentu tidak ada jaminan Doge bisa sampai ke ATH, tapi setidaknya kenaikan dari harga saat ini masih terbuka. Tapi, kalau dianggap hanya sebatas meme, saya pikir itu salah, karena Doge sudah digunakan diberbagai lini bisnis.
591  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Masa Depan dan Harga shibaInu on: December 15, 2023, 02:03:51 PM
berita burn saat ini sejatinya tidak begitu menarik lagi untuk dianggap sebagai fundamental. kecuali jika burn-nya cukup banyak mungkin bisa. Tapi, ada satu hal yang saya perhatikan mungkin Shib menunggu giliran untuk dipump kembali. saat ini beberapa token meme mendapatkan pump, misalnya BONK yang pump sampe 46% hari ini. BTTC dan LUNC juga pernah sudah di pump, saya pikir bisa lah dijadikan bahan untuk pump selanjutnya.
592  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 15, 2023, 01:56:16 PM
So, I don't agree with your friend who blames the other friend for introducing gambling to him because he had the choice to not gamble and say no to the friend when he asked, I'm sure he didn't drag him into the casino forcefully and make him gamble by force and it was his own choice to do that at the end of the day.

A person who blames others because he become a gambler is like a child. He knows that gambling don't give him winnings everytime, but because his friend played and won, he wants it. But if his expectations don't match, he blames his friend, that's a mistake. Because everyone can offer anything, but the decision comes from themselves. He should be aware of this.
593  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: December 15, 2023, 04:08:06 AM
You guys will be shocked at how many "free riders" in the ID region alone who want free stuff. And then, multiply it with all regions since this promotion is not only for the ID region. Pretty sure lots of people only do the minimum deposit, play for 1x TO, and withdraw the minimum deposit just to play the wheel Grin

Ah, I thought this promotion was only valid in Indonesia LOL, if it available in outher country it should be huge for sure.

It also seems like there has been a change in the rules regarding 1x free spin wheel. What I notice is that currently the conditions for free spins must have a deposit history of no more than 5 days ago, whereas the previous rule was a minimum of 1x deposit in 7 days. Also, previously the minimum was IDR 100K, now it is 150K. I don't know when this rule was changed.
594  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [Poll] Calon Presiden 2024 Pilihanmu on: December 15, 2023, 02:22:54 AM
Itu kan hanya bagian kecil yang ente tau kan. -snip-
Yup, itu yang saya ketahui saja, makanya saya katakan bahwa, jika fair, harusnya mencari sumber didaerah netral. kalau mereka menggunakan lembaganya untuk menaikkan kubu tertentu di balik layar itu diluar pengetahuan saya sebagai warga biasa. Tapi sejauh ini, setelah beberapa kali pemilihan langsung, hasil akhir dari polling dengan hasil pemilihan tidak jauh berbeda. jadi memang ada kans dari berbagai lembaga survey yang ada di Indonesia, setidaknya mungkin masih ada yang fair.

Terkait dengan survey yang Anda lakukan, ada banyak hal yang menjadi alasan
1. Dari 300K view tersebut, itu hanya lewat saja dan tidak mau tahu dengan polling yang dilakukan oleh user bukan dari lembaga survey resmi, saya sendiri sering menemukan polling begini, bukan hanya soal capres, ya gitu saya lewatin saja.
2. Sama halnya dengan yang Anda berikan sebelumnya, selagi itu online maka hasil bisa tidak sesuai, walaupun itu dibasis pendukung. alasannya jelas, buzzer dan fake account bisa dengan mudah memberikan polling. namanya buzzer pasti ada di semua base pendukung baik itu grup, channel atau apa pun yang tergabung secara online.



Ane cuma nonton sambil skip-skip, dan semua sesuai perkiraan:
Anies = Ngomongnya kelihatan paling bener dan meyakinkan karena berdasarkan teori. Jadi kalo sama-sama akademisi pasti sudah tahu dia nyomot teori yang mana Grin
Prabowo = Paling emosional, apa adanya, pro pemerintah. Calon ini kena tusbol dari dua arah wkwkw
Ganjar = Tipikal politisi dengan kemampuan berbicara yang baik, tapi tidak sebaik Anies.

benar, memang Prabowo menjadi calon yang tersudut di sini. kedua calon lain justru menurut saya menunjukkan blundernya, Ganjar yang menggebu-gebu ingin menyudutkan Prabowo dengan HAM, dan Anies yang menggebu-gebu dengan kasus MK, tidak bisa membuat swing voters untuk mengambil kesimpulan kemana mereka akan pergi untuk memilih. Karena dari hemat saya, hasil debat pertama ini membuat saya pribadi menemukan sisi negatif dari capres.
jika pertama saya tidak suka dengan keputusan MK, namun ini dijadikan berlarut-larut oleh anies untuk menjatuhkan calon lain, membuat saya jadi tidak suka pula dengan Anies, begitu dengan Ganjar, kasus penculikan bisa dibilang basi, tapi jika memang terbukti seharusnya sejak saat Prabowo jadi cawapresnya Mega, Prabowo sudah dipenjara, itu kalau terbukti. sehingga saya tidak dapat memilihnya karena ini mungkin karena permintaan bu Ratu untuk mengangkat kasus ini lagi di debat.

jadi, mungkin swing voters lain ada yang sepemikiran dengan saya ini, jadi mereka mungkin belum bisa mengambil keputusan apa pun.  kemarin ada hasil survey menyebutkan bahwa swing voters mencapai 28-30%, jika dalam 4 debat terakhir tidak memuaskan mereka, maka bisa jadi angka golput tinggi. saya tidak menyimpannya, karena itu lewat di beranda akun X, dan ga kepikiran juga buat nyimpen.
595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 14, 2023, 01:57:42 PM
There's no amount of money that can make me to commit suicide, those individuals that committed suicide don't know the worth of their life and they don't love their life as when they love their self, they won't take their own life no matter what happens. Gamboling should be entertaining therefore if you're not having fun don't continue gambling. Didn't he see that he was losing to stop gambling and why did he used all those amount of money to gamble when he knows he can't take the result.


We will never know what problems he faced other than using his business money to gamble. Because, maybe if he doesn't return it, he will be imprisoned by other business owners (if the business is owned by more than 1 person) or other reason that making him more in trouble. We cannot assume that life is more valuable than money. For people who are desperate, they will follow whatever path they take, even though to us it seems like something ridiculous. of course I hope all of us not like him. when we have financial problems, we find better ways to solved than committing suicide.
596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 14, 2023, 01:48:16 PM
In this match with the Milan team, Newcastle United could not win despite working hard. Because I have a lot of pain for Newcastle United team at the moment, because Newcastle United team will not be seen in this Champions League again this season. Newcastle United and Milan have had plenty of rivalry games. Newcastle United shot a total of 17 shots at the goal post, and the Milan team shot 12. But after half-time, Milan went ahead with two goals. The Milan Team performance towards the last was very good, and the defense was strong enough to score goals offensively.


In the end, luck was still on Milan's side. When AC Milan wins, I hope Dortmund can also win the match against PSG. but the draw that was obtained meant that Milan chance at the UCL had to end. However, at least Milan can still continue competing in Europe's second league. UEL will also be a big challenge for AC Milan, because in UEL there is Liverpool who can be a tough opponent for AC Milan if they meet before semifinals.
597  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Kesenjangan Ekonomi & Dampak Pada Ketidaksetaraan Sosial on: December 14, 2023, 01:31:16 PM
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Meskipun gaji disana juga lebih gede dari di Indonesia tapi berbicara tentang tunawisma sebenarnya apa yang menyebabkan banyak tunawisma disana? Apakah di Amrik juga punya masalah lapangan kerja seperti halnya di Indonesia?

Gaji di sana besar, jika kita kompariskan dengan Indonesia. tetapi untuk bertahan hidup di sana, bisa saja itu masuk dalam kategori kecil. Bahkan, pernah membaca kalau penyebab tertinggi kedua dari banyaknya tunawisma adalah gaji rendah. jadi, bukan hanya di Indonesia yang mana perusahaan tidak mau membayar mahal atau sesuai keputusan pemerintah, di Amerika juga banyak. Pengangguran di sana juga banyak, itu mengindikasikan pencari kerja dan lapangan kerja di Amerika sejatinya sama dengan di Indonesia dalam artian tidak seimbang. Jadi, intinya sih saya pikir sama saja dengan yang ada di sini.
598  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Info] Rencana Google Merevisi Aturan Periklanan Mata Uang Kripto on: December 14, 2023, 01:14:04 PM
Kalau memang takut akan masalah penipuan, money laundry, kenyataannya mereka masih menerima banyak iklan penipuan, khususnya exchange phishing yang muncul di google ads. Saya sudah lama mengaktifkan ads block untuk web yang memasang Google ads. Saya pikir ini bukan lah fundamental kuat untuk kripto, karena tanpa Google Ads pun proyek kripto sudah memiliki banyak cara untuk memasarkan proyeknya. Bahkan itu bisa lebih efektif daripada Google Ads. tentu akan ada efek pada harga kripto secara umum walaupun hanya 0.xx%, yang pasti bukan sebagai acuan utama untuk menciptakan FOMO.
599  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Info Fee Mempool Terupdate & Penjelasannya on: December 14, 2023, 08:45:26 AM
Hingga saat ini pukul 15:40 WIB, fee tertinggi terjadi di block 821126 dengan fee 389 sats/vB. jika dirupiahkan mungkin bisa lebih dari 300rb untuk satu transaksi. miner pada block ini mendapatkan total fee 4 BTC. jika misalnya aktivitas market Ordi semakin meningkat, mungkin fee akan menembus lebih dari 400 sats/vB. sejatinya ini sangat meresahkan, tapi potensinya akan lebih banyak holder baru karena tidak mau mengeluarkan fee yang lebih tinggi. saya pikir, kenaikan BTC akhir-akhir ini, selain fundamental soal the FED, tapi juga tingginya ongkos kirim yang dihindari sebagian orang dan memilih menjadi holders baru.
600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 13, 2023, 03:15:28 PM
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But I wonder why should someone take his own life  just because he lost  #2.5 million to gambling an amount  equivalent to just about $3k. I can relate to his loss but taking your life is something unimaginable and unjustifiable to do. No matter the regrets suicide isn't an option to be taking as a solution , you are only leaving bigger pains  behind for your loved ones.

Maybe you think that's a small number, $3K. But, for people in countries with low economies and incomes, collecting that much takes more than a year.  Maybe he couldn't tell his family about his gambling losses. Or maybe he has used up all the money and savings he has. We might think that with his status as a businessman, it should be a small money. but we don't know, it could be a small business that doesn't have much turnover. or there is a possibility that he used business money for the gambling.
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