What if pool hoppers put a positive spin to the the game? Les say, you hop to pool X and then you jump to next, when you are at your N rate from difficulty and so on. What if you hop back to the pool X, when they are in trouble and are cranking at 50+ h block? Jump in, help them out, suck some honey from the first shares and move on. But do not forget to hop back, when they actually need you, For example, look at the Triplemining. 52 hours and counting, 3 855 573 share and no end is sight. Poolhoppers can bring 50-80 GH/s power to any pool. Pool-hoppers, its time to give something back to a small pool. It will be really cool and I can bet, most small pools will make the real time stats etc available to you  and you probably end up earning more than now. Cheers! This is actually a pretty decent idea. The pool-hopping scripts I've played with so far all have "backup" pools that are mined when none of your other pools are under the magic 43% mark. I doubt it would be that tough to change the logic up a bit to mine whatever pool has the highest share count during these times instead and I'm sure it would make us all the more welcome at already hopper-friendly pools (or pools which are undecided). I'd be happy to see such a change. I'll see if I can bash it out myself and I'll also suggest it to those who control the code for the major projects. |
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Would it help if we use the "report to mod" on all the stupid, useless ones?
Because that's exactly what the mod staff needs. It occurs to me that a very large amount of stupid useless material hits this forum every day, not just in image macro form - if the mods tried to police stupidity or uselessness we'd need a full time staff of hundreds. Also, such macros reek of 4chan and I'm pretty sure our mods are 'net veterans who know better than to mess with 4chan. |
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a couple of large purchases have not been countered by like sales.
The only time there is such a thing as a purchase or a sale is when they are still outstanding. Every big sale requires buyers and every big buy requires sellers. What I meant was two periods in which prices moved sharply upwards on much higher volume, suggesting perhaps two large orders to buy at market. This behavior is contrary to what happened earlier in the month - from the 11th to the 18th - in which prices moved lower during some periods of atypical high volume, suggesting large orders to sell at market. Much better Also, quite true. I'm expecting some nice long-term gains - wouldn't be surprised at all to see $20 before the end of the month. |
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a couple of large purchases have not been countered by like sales.
The only time there is such a thing as a purchase or a sale is when they are still outstanding. Every big sale requires buyers and every big buy requires sellers. |
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I think everyone is confusing the word 'ethical' with 'immoral'.
Morality is usually used to define a values based code (e.g religious) while ethics describes a code based on reason.
My morality tells me that ill-gotten gains include the BTC of those who mined in my absence.
My ethics tell me that pool hopping is a potentially profitable 'technique' where it is allowed.
For those who don't agree, do the same thing people do when they realize their country is run by a hooded society of child sacrificing men-- move to another, fight to have it changed, OR STFU.
The term "ethical" comes from the Greek "ethos" while "moral" comes from the latin "mores" - both meaning the exact same thing: "customs." It is a modern misnomer to think that one is different from the other as they are simply transliterations of the same word and it would make more sense to say that we're confusing "personal ethics/morals" with "societal ethics/morals" - the prior being entirely subjective and the latter being largely objective and measurable. Of course since this would appear to be the first real attempt at actually measuring the objective beliefs on pool hopping, the result of this pool should determine the objective morality. I do agree with your last sentence, though. No one is forced to mine at any hopper-friendly pools and many have explicitly chosen to mine at such places because they prefer the payout schema to hopper-resistant methods like PPLNS et. al. There are a scant few who mine at such pools not understanding a thing about the risks (most newbies mine at the huge pools like DeepBit, Eligius or BTC Guild anyway, all hop resistant) and the onus of choosing the right pool for yourself is on YOU. |
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Hah, I just fired up namecoind for the first time in weeks since ryouiki added bitparking & namebit support and realized that shortly after I'd given up on solo mining namecoins the last go-round I'd generated a block and not realized it. 50 NMC ~= 1.44 BTC that I didn't know I had. I love finding money  Thanks ryouiki! |
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enmaku read my last post
Yeah, I see that now. I already fixed it myself, but in a different way - I added one more replace() to pools.py line 241: parsed = response.replace('\n', '').replace('\r','').replace('\t','').replace(' ','')Took care of the extra spaces they added in the middle of the number as well as the space between the </td> and <td> Glancing over yours I can kind of see how it's working, regex isn't my strong suit so if I can fix it ANYWHERE but the regex I'll gladly do so |
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Getting regex failures on triple with Ryouiki's latest. Did they change their stats page or something?
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Anyone still have invites to hoppersden?
dunno, ask around  (just joking I feel fine today) Thanks for the invite, I'll try to poke around and absorb/contribute whatever I can this weekend. |
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Alex Jones listener base is huge... I can see them all looking into it over the weekend, setting up a Dwolla account, it takes about 2 week days to activate, they begin their money transfers on Tuesday from their bank accounts, they get the money through Thursday or Friday and boom...price skyrocket by the end of the week. I wish before anyone runs to setup Dwolla account they learn as much as possible about bitcoins not just buying in to the hype. This way they will be able to handle exchange swings a little better and it will provide more stability and support to the whole project in the future. In any case a weekend should be enough time for good research. It took me 30 seconds into my first bitcoin article to be curious, 30 minutes of research to be excited and about 6-8 hours to fully comprehend how it all fit together. I might be a bit above or below average but I'd imagine two full days should be enough research time for anyone (at least anyone who actually listens to Alex Jones) to have at least a solid picture of what bitcoin is, what it aims to do and how to make it all work. |
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Anyone still have invites to hoppersden?
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I think the OP was joking...
I get that, but I hear the "fridge as air conditioner" thing a lot and it admittedly gets me a bit militant at this point |
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2) Try and keep the room extra cool, perhaps put a fridge in the mining room with the door open
Refrigerators are not magical cold-making boxes, they're heat exchangers. Any heat they remove from their contents is expelled through the coils on the back of the fridge. Given that this is also less than 100% efficient, an open-doored refrigerator adds more heat to a room than it removes. Honestly people, L2Physics |
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Has nothing whatsoever to do with Dwolla, you got caught on the SDN list, kind of like the people who every year get caught on the "no-fly" list because of an unfortunate name. Not Dwolla's fault really... Where exactly do you live and how long have you lived there?
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Also goes to show why you should underclock the memory too - 123 watts saved that way, not to mention ~430 BTU/h of heat |
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Indeed. We're still in bull territory and indicators are we're moving out of oversold condition.
I sincerely hope you're correct. I could use a little price climb before month's end or this miner will have some very unhappy investors for July... |
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Or we could just start a StackExchange for the technicals... Oh wait, we're working on that: http://bit.ly/pt2km3 Which needs some topics to get things going  There's been just one new topic since I committed to it a couple of days ago and I'm more of a responding than asking question for the sake of asking kind of person  You're welcome for the one new topic  Like you, I'm more of a responding than asking sort of person so it's rough to come up with questions. |
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I miss how the forum used to be around March-April time, the quality of posting was amazing and the forum really did shine with brilliant technical information. I can't help but feel as if a truck load of teenagers have jumped on the bandwagon to derail threads and bump their post count with useless crap. I also feel guilty for the quality of my own posting and have thought many times about killing my account here as to not add to the continual problem. I want bitcoin to succeed, I really do, its taken over my life the past few months and I cant help but feel angry reading the majority of forum threads now a days. What can I do myself to make bitcoin succeed and drive the riff raff away?  It's a good sign actually. As any technical community grows and/or a technology becomes increasingly adopted, it's inevitable that numbers of non-technical users will increase. I suppose a fix would be to split the forum up, add in some kind of reputation module so that users can uprate those who post with quality. Then have a forum where membership is by invitation only, or automatic on somebody hitting certain reputation mark. Although this might earn the bitcoin community a snob reputation and work against adoption. Or we could just start a StackExchange for the technicals... Oh wait, we're working on that: http://bit.ly/pt2km3 |
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Holy crap Ryouiki this mod is AMAZING. So glad I decided to try it out and I really hope c00w works your changes into root |
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