Short video with a quick summary of the China stock drop. Looks like the bitcoin suggestion he made last year is paying off. We need a bug in Mr. Berwick's ear to invest in Dash. He spoke at the last Mexico conference, did anyone talk to him? He will be at Anarchopulco next. There are many more videos with a similar story out this week. We will see where this goes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHDdIN5w5lU |
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Tok have you any comment on . BTC=462+ right now, and Stocks down last 24 hrs?
Well, it looks like the Nikkerless has lost a notch and Hu-obulus replied with a kick in the crotch but a couple of candles and a fat volume bar are still not enough to get to the stars now Mr Sorroless says it's a crises cos his tea leaves are purple and his moon’s in Pisces there are types at the bank who don’t want him around and are trying to forget what he did to the pound nevertheless I think tungfa’s a clue that the fantasy trading’s got stuck in the glue you ask if it’s natives that tender their chips or new Marco Polo’s, buying the dips all I can say is that Bitcoin & Dash will get booted uphill in the wake of the crash I’m afraid that will have to suffice for today in both trading analysis and poetry Well, they should put THAT into that soda machine! Solar, ask Tok! Into? You mean on the little 5" screen? I suppose we could have it scroll starwars style on bootup.... Ok Moocowmoo....no more features... Ok sorry, new features are on hold until testing is 100% complete. |
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Instantx Vending Machine Vote Results - Day 2.5
Keep the votes coming by sending your .001 Dash for your 3 choices here:[/b]
Coke: XcoKEbG1jeHKitW4HAnrNKgrofWQe9x26a
Cherry Coke: XcCoKeARJarL8VPRrwmnvNeF1nWxWBCoKK
Dr Pepper: XdrPEPRnsDXSMxWdXs3oK7PAC8Mj5HtXwg
Pepsi: XpEPSiWWjQjKZ3kGaMxjE7uc3BJDH26UMk
7up: XsEvuPpw6o4JiRApE3THBEcuCqjqES2Aho
Sprite: XsPrite2xPLbYGnLarcRa75FC3pYrKZrwQ
Mt Dew: XmTdEW1HAaWqDdoWHpo9tyehgmHt3AcF5y
MelloYello: XmYELq3ozZism9DgzHP3kNoyjtFjT7hqXX
Diet Cola: XdiEtmWyuEAaEKaD9wtfwvfPidLmQrTkh1
Rootbeer: Xroot4dLh7s8UeGsXjpLVd5K7WZU8GD7Qj
Mineral Water: XminwjYtcBwEGTohxZKLZkyooRyEWuQKPQ
Red Stripe: XrEdsTPpnirHozCewVD1XEusip3x6wEeXt
We have the first entry from Mello Yellow. 3.7 Dash, thank you Miner237.
The top 6 for the 6 slots available as it currently stands.
Mineral Water 12.64517432 DASH
Coke 7.9389742 DASH
Rootbeer 7.837 DASH
Mt Drew 4.002 DASH
Dr Pepper 4.001 DASH
Mello Yellow 3.7 DASH
Red Stripe 0.364 DASH
7up 0.0021 DASH
Cherry Coke 0.021 DASH
Pepsi 0.011 DASH
Diet Cola 0.002 DASH
Sprite 0.001 DASH
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Tok have you any comment on . BTC=462+ right now, and Stocks down last 24 hrs?
Well, it looks like the Nikkerless has lost a notch and Hu-obulus replied with a kick in the crotch but a couple of candles and a fat volume bar are still not enough to get to the stars now Mr Sorroless says it's a crises cos his tea leaves are purple and his moon’s in Pisces there are types at the bank who don’t want him around and are trying to forget what he did to the pound nevertheless I think tungfa’s a clue that the fantasy trading’s got stuck in the glue you ask if it’s natives that tender their chips or new Marco Polo’s, buying the dips all I can say is that Bitcoin & Dash will get booted uphill in the wake of the crash I’m afraid that will have to suffice for today in both trading analysis and poetry Love it. Just read the last word as poetray and it all rhymes. |
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Instantx Vending Machine Vote Results - Day 1
Keep the votes coming by sending your .001 Dash for your 3 choices here:[/b]
Coke: XcoKEbG1jeHKitW4HAnrNKgrofWQe9x26a
Cherry Coke: XcCoKeARJarL8VPRrwmnvNeF1nWxWBCoKK
Dr Pepper: XdrPEPRnsDXSMxWdXs3oK7PAC8Mj5HtXwg
Pepsi: XpEPSiWWjQjKZ3kGaMxjE7uc3BJDH26UMk
7up: XsEvuPpw6o4JiRApE3THBEcuCqjqES2Aho
Sprite: XsPrite2xPLbYGnLarcRa75FC3pYrKZrwQ
Mt Dew: XmTdEW1HAaWqDdoWHpo9tyehgmHt3AcF5y
MelloYello: XmYELq3ozZism9DgzHP3kNoyjtFjT7hqXX
Diet Cola: XdiEtmWyuEAaEKaD9wtfwvfPidLmQrTkh1
Rootbeer: Xroot4dLh7s8UeGsXjpLVd5K7WZU8GD7Qj
Mineral Water: XminwjYtcBwEGTohxZKLZkyooRyEWuQKPQ
Red Stripe: XrEdsTPpnirHozCewVD1XEusip3x6wEeXt
Anyone for Rootbeer? It is on the fence with Pepsi. The spirits have answered. Rootbeer Mineral Water just jumped into the lead. Thanks for the big donations. Coke 6.007 DASH Cherry Coke 0.021 DASH Dr Pepper 4.001 DASH Pepsi 0.011 DASH 7up 0.0021 DASH Sprite 0.001 DASH Mt Drew 4.001 DASH Mello Yellow Diet Cola 0.002 DASH Rootbeer 7.837 DASH Mineral Water 12.64517432 DASH Red Stripe .364 DASH And we have a late Red Strip entry with .364 Dash donation(Thank you). Time to relax with a cold one, cheers.  |
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Instantx Vending Machine Vote Results - Day 1
Coke 0.006 DASH
Cherry Coke 0.021 DASH
Dr Pepper 4.001 DASH
Pepsi 0 DASH
7up 0.002 DASH
Sprite 0.001 DASH
Mt Drew 4.001 DASH
Mello Yellow 0 DASH
Diet Cola 0.002 DASH
Rootbeer 0.011 DASH
Mineral Water 0.64117432 DASH
I am surprised mineral water is in the top 3.
Keep the votes coming by sending your .001 Dash for your 3 choices here:
Coke: XcoKEbG1jeHKitW4HAnrNKgrofWQe9x26a
Cherry Coke: XcCoKeARJarL8VPRrwmnvNeF1nWxWBCoKK
Dr Pepper: XdrPEPRnsDXSMxWdXs3oK7PAC8Mj5HtXwg
Pepsi: XpEPSiWWjQjKZ3kGaMxjE7uc3BJDH26UMk
7up: XsEvuPpw6o4JiRApE3THBEcuCqjqES2Aho
Sprite: XsPrite2xPLbYGnLarcRa75FC3pYrKZrwQ
Mt Dew: XmTdEW1HAaWqDdoWHpo9tyehgmHt3AcF5y
MelloYello: XmYELq3ozZism9DgzHP3kNoyjtFjT7hqXX
Diet Cola: XdiEtmWyuEAaEKaD9wtfwvfPidLmQrTkh1
Rootbeer: Xroot4dLh7s8UeGsXjpLVd5K7WZU8GD7Qj
Mineral Water: XminwjYtcBwEGTohxZKLZkyooRyEWuQKPQ
you better get some new numbers up there seems to be a race between Dr Pepper (disgusting !) and Coke (yum) going on  Go Mountain Dew! Thank you Tungfa, if that was you for the generous Coke tip. TAO, Mt Dew. Hmmm. I guess it is top 3 so it goes in.
Latest totalsCoke 6.007 DASH Cherry Coke 0.021 DASH Dr Pepper 4.001 DASH Pepsi 0.011 DASH 7up 0.0021 DASH Sprite 0.001 DASH Mt Drew 4.001 DASH Mello Yellow 0 DASH Diet Cola 0.002 DASH Rootbeer 0.011 DASH Mineral Water 0.64517432 DASH Anyone for Rootbeer? It is on the fence with Pepsi. |
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I thought of bitcoin when I saw this. The record is bitcoin with 10 minute block times. The laser no touch system is lightning. Of course, the Dash comparison is a smartphone that can play music too, but also sends email and calls people. “Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.”  |
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Last night I presented for Dash to about 100 people
Impressive! Maybe you could add some props for the next one, like a little PI terminal with a screen. Than you can really get people jazzed up with something tangible. |
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if you do not own a MN, you have "taxation without representation"
Who's being "taxed" without being represented? Dash holders? Simply holding Dash comes neither with a "tax" nor any income to be "taxed", hence no right to be "represented". Miners? They vote and are represented by their hashing power and the client-implementations they use. If they don't like a proposal they can let the network die (and relinquish any income ofc) which is an even greater force than Masternode owners. It's like saying "Australians don't get to vote on how New Zealand tax money is spent, unfair!" Other than that I agree that the waiting period as well as the participation rate should both be raised. Yes and no... creating an extra 10% of a currency devalues what a person is holding by 10%... so essentially everyone is being taxed through devaluation of currency, otherwise known as inflation Not to mention, if these are legitimate expenses, you can expect the recipient to liquidate the Dash to cover the cost... Last I checked, no airlines accept $500 worth of Dash... they want USD... Wrong! No new currency is created... I see both sides of this argument, but you cant deny that new coins came into existence because of the budget. If it were not for the budget, the coins wouldn't have been created. To be clear: The budget is the system that allows proposals to be submitted and voted on. It doesn't necessary allocate funds. Dash is only created when a viable, useful, quality proposal(determined by masternodes) is accepted. No good proposals = no new coins. Originally, blockrewards were split between masternodes and miners. Both parties sacrificed part of their rewards for the option for the budget system to vote in proposals. |
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Much in the same way that congress debates and votes on how US taxes are spent, MNs vote how the Dash taxes are spent.
Also, in the US, since day 1, companies who are friends with the politicians tend to profit the most from the spending of the taxes. Halliburton, etc...
I only request more time for debate on proposals.
I am replying to you because this is an important misunderstanding. There is no reason we should copy a broken congress or bureaucratic government! Even the electoral voting system is archaic, we can just count individual votes now - we are not traveling on horseback. Yeah, do you know why lobbying and payoffs work? It is because the votes are not actually done by the people, they are done by proxy. Why would you give up voting rights to 500 overpaid politicians and expect them to vote on the things you want? That also only works when you are forced to pay a tax to support those 500 overpaid politicians.... What is the reason to spend hours debating something? That would only be needed if there is a disagreement. Once a certain % of vote threshold is attained, there is no need to debate. If a proposal was on the fence, it may not pass. It may get revisions before it passes. That can all be coordinated by a threshold of votes. The system works! The masternode owners, who also have the most to gain/lose by voting, vote for the proposal that will help Dash in the future. There is no proxy voting, no forced taxation, no need for debates. |
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Incorrect! We spent hours and hours to get a budget that didn't just tax the system.
#1. A proposal needs to be voted on by at least 10% of the votes to get accepted.
#2. If there are no proposals or less than what would fill the 10% allocated block rewards that amount of dash are not created. Not burned. Just not created. (This is a genius Evan idea!)
So if there are are a bunch of 0 value proposals. They will get low votes/no votes and will not get accepted. Only valuable proposals get accepted and funded.
Contrast this with a taxing system. A certain % is taken out, even if not needed. Then it is allocated in some way, usually to use all of it up even if not on useful things. This is where the wasteful spending comes in.
Now your next comment you are about to make is that this "wastes" dash and will cause the dash creation rate to change. When less coins are created the value of existing dash goes up. So it is not "wasting" dash funds by not creating them, just not diluting the value of current dash holders.
Regardless of whether the entire 10% is spent, it is still a tax. If its not all spent, then the system is only being taxed 5% or 8% instead of 10%, but its still a tax Read above again. The proposals need to positive votes to get in. This is like purchasing a coke. If you don't want it you don't buy it. That isn't a tax. This is like buying a coke but the decision is based on % of votes. |
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I am a skeptical person, and if I don't know a person, I assume they are a scammer, trying to take my money...
I assume every proposal is guilty until proven innocent.
I want to give them time to prove their innocence before I vote to give them my money.
ugh - your NOT giving away YOUR money - ugh You sure you know how this works? I view it as my money in the same way as I view how the federal government spends my taxes as my money... the 10% budget is essentially a tax, right? Incorrect! We spent hours and hours to get a budget that didn't just tax the system. #1. A proposal needs to be voted on by at least 10% of the votes to get accepted. #2. If there are no proposals or less than what would fill the 10% allocated block rewards that amount of dash are not created. Not burned. Just not created. (This is a genius Evan idea!) So if there are are a bunch of 0 value proposals. They will get low votes/no votes and will not get accepted. Only valuable proposals get accepted and funded. Contrast this with a taxing system. A certain % is taken out, even if not needed. Then it is allocated in some way, usually to use all of it up even if not on useful things. This is where the wasteful spending comes in. Now your next comment you are about to make is that this "wastes" dash and will cause the dash creation rate to change. When less coins are created the value of existing dash goes up. So it is not "wasting" dash funds by not creating them, just not diluting the value of current dash holders. |
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Instantx Vending Machine Vote Results - Day 1
Coke 0.006 DASH
Cherry Coke 0.021 DASH
Dr Pepper 4.001 DASH
Pepsi 0 DASH
7up 0.002 DASH
Sprite 0.001 DASH
Mt Drew 4.001 DASH
Mello Yellow 0 DASH
Diet Cola 0.002 DASH
Rootbeer 0.011 DASH
Mineral Water 0.64117432 DASH
I am surprised mineral water is in the top 3.
Keep the votes coming by sending your .001 Dash for your 3 choices here:
Coke: XcoKEbG1jeHKitW4HAnrNKgrofWQe9x26a
Cherry Coke: XcCoKeARJarL8VPRrwmnvNeF1nWxWBCoKK
Dr Pepper: XdrPEPRnsDXSMxWdXs3oK7PAC8Mj5HtXwg
Pepsi: XpEPSiWWjQjKZ3kGaMxjE7uc3BJDH26UMk
7up: XsEvuPpw6o4JiRApE3THBEcuCqjqES2Aho
Sprite: XsPrite2xPLbYGnLarcRa75FC3pYrKZrwQ
Mt Dew: XmTdEW1HAaWqDdoWHpo9tyehgmHt3AcF5y
MelloYello: XmYELq3ozZism9DgzHP3kNoyjtFjT7hqXX
Diet Cola: XdiEtmWyuEAaEKaD9wtfwvfPidLmQrTkh1
Rootbeer: Xroot4dLh7s8UeGsXjpLVd5K7WZU8GD7Qj
Mineral Water: XminwjYtcBwEGTohxZKLZkyooRyEWuQKPQ
i voted for water because not everyone drinks cola. we need a coke or Pepsi to be in there because they are popular with most people. i would love to see the real sugar Pepsi and others if available. How about something non-soda, like Hawaiian Punch, or orange juice? There are probably over 100 beverages available and it isn't possible to put them all in a vote. If there are any unique requests, feel free to post your three in the dashtalk thread and I will count manually. https://dashtalk.org/threads/soda-vote-for-instantx-soda-machine-in-miami.7567/#post-78069 |
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No, I mean, that seems like it should belong in our proposal system bylaws. The protocol is a place for stopping exploits. It should remain as flexible as possible.
The bylaws would say something to the effect of "Proposal submission deadline for the budget is 7 days before the next payout date, to allow a reasonable amount of time to discuss and debate new entries. " In the case where a person goes against the bylaws, the network would vote them down automatically.
Fair enough, but I feel like something needs to be tweaked a bit. I have already seen a few votes come and go without a chance to vote on them. I feel like it is over too quickly. For something like a soda machine, which will remain someone's personal property, I feel like discussion is required. I am also skeptical about who is on the receiving end of these expenses... I assume whoever put up that proposal is doing the graphics design, and keep the $400 +$500 travel expenses. How much more of the $2000 are they keeping? These are the types of things I would like time to discuss before voting... but, I also don't want to troll forum(s) 24/7 to make sure I don't miss my chance...
I think instead of requiring a waiting period we just get the amount of votes needed right. 10% seems too low to me and I would suggest 20% for low budget projects and 30% for higher budget projects. Either way the system is fair. A bad proposal will not get in if has more no votes than 10% of the yes votes(20% yes/11% no).
Perhaps this will help extend the voting period? I'm not sure of the best solution, but I would appreciate it being looked into, thanks. I would also say the 10% rule is fair, eventually there just simply won't be enough money to go around. The amount of support you need to get paid is actually more than the weakest proposal in the system. This is on purpose, imagine we have 50 proposals in the system up for voting and all of the ones getting paid have more than 20-30% of the networks support. As the network grows it should get much harder to get funded. You make a good point here with 50 proposals. You will also have a thinning out of votes per proposal as there are more proposals and more competition. Is this the first round of budgets with 3rd party proposals going through like the DailyDecrypt? I think that is a big step for Dash! |
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Hi, I need some advice from you members,my wallet does not sync and i want to send some coins to someone,can i do this without lossing my coins because my wallet is not fully synced?  I need urgent help,many thanks in advance! Yep, standard should be no problem. An IX you may need the masternodes to sync. |
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Instantx Vending Machine Vote Results - Day 1
Coke 0.006 DASH
Cherry Coke 0.021 DASH
Dr Pepper 4.001 DASH
Pepsi 0 DASH
7up 0.002 DASH
Sprite 0.001 DASH
Mt Drew 4.001 DASH
Mello Yellow 0 DASH
Diet Cola 0.002 DASH
Rootbeer 0.011 DASH
Mineral Water 0.64117432 DASH
I am surprised mineral water is in the top 3.
Keep the votes coming by sending your .001 Dash for your 3 choices here:
Coke: XcoKEbG1jeHKitW4HAnrNKgrofWQe9x26a
Cherry Coke: XcCoKeARJarL8VPRrwmnvNeF1nWxWBCoKK
Dr Pepper: XdrPEPRnsDXSMxWdXs3oK7PAC8Mj5HtXwg
Pepsi: XpEPSiWWjQjKZ3kGaMxjE7uc3BJDH26UMk
7up: XsEvuPpw6o4JiRApE3THBEcuCqjqES2Aho
Sprite: XsPrite2xPLbYGnLarcRa75FC3pYrKZrwQ
Mt Dew: XmTdEW1HAaWqDdoWHpo9tyehgmHt3AcF5y
MelloYello: XmYELq3ozZism9DgzHP3kNoyjtFjT7hqXX
Diet Cola: XdiEtmWyuEAaEKaD9wtfwvfPidLmQrTkh1
Rootbeer: Xroot4dLh7s8UeGsXjpLVd5K7WZU8GD7Qj
Mineral Water: XminwjYtcBwEGTohxZKLZkyooRyEWuQKPQ
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A proposal has to be on the network for at least 1 day before it qualifies to get paid. This was added to the system to stop that exact situation. Many of us monitor the budget system for the last few right before payment, so it would be impossible for anyone to sneak something in.
That's what "IsEstablished" means
Could you please raise this to 30-days? I do NOT like being rushed to vote on something I do not fully understand. I would like time to debate the proposal before being forced to vote on it A prime example is the soda machine... I would like to know who ends up owning this machine that the community is paying for... How much they plan to charge, and what they play to do with any proceeds from soda sales... this is important stuff if you want me to buy you a soda machine... I want to know what you are planning to do with my money... With only 3 days of deliberation, I wont get answers to my questions before the vote is over... Now imagine if I only check once/week... I might not even get 1 day to ask questions... I could have missed the vote entirely Your questions are all answered on the description on dashwhale and the dashtalk thread. You will notice we even split out every expense, which is how I would like to see with other proposals. There was an active discussion and a high yes voting %. If the proposal didn't meet the yes % votes it would wait for one more month for a 2nd chance before it was dropped. Original proposal: https://www.dashwhale.org/p/Instantx-Soda-MachinRevised with lower amount: https://www.dashwhale.org/p/590-soda-machineThread: https://dashtalk.org/threads/budget-proposal-the-instantx-soda-machine.7408/page-7I think instead of requiring a waiting period we just get the amount of votes needed right. 10% seems too low to me and I would suggest 20% for low budget projects and 30% for higher budget projects. Either way the system is fair. A bad proposal will not get in if has more no votes than 10% of the yes votes(20% yes/11% no). |
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last one
I'd recommend checking with Coca-Cola before using their logo... its required for them to prosecute copyright infringement, or they could lose their rights to their own copyright... Not to worry. No cans on the final. |
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What do you want in the InstantX Vending Machine at the Miami show?
Send 0.001 Dash to the address below for your vote. (No need to IX and pay the .01 fee)
Suggestion is for everyone to put in 3 votes (only 1 cent total) but we do not oppose extra donations.
Coke: XcoKEbG1jeHKitW4HAnrNKgrofWQe9x26a
Cherry Coke: XcCoKeARJarL8VPRrwmnvNeF1nWxWBCoKK
Dr Pepper: XdrPEPRnsDXSMxWdXs3oK7PAC8Mj5HtXwg
Pepsi: XpEPSiWWjQjKZ3kGaMxjE7uc3BJDH26UMk
7up: XsEvuPpw6o4JiRApE3THBEcuCqjqES2Aho
Sprite: XsPrite2xPLbYGnLarcRa75FC3pYrKZrwQ
Mt Dew: XmTdEW1HAaWqDdoWHpo9tyehgmHt3AcF5y
MelloYello: XmYELq3ozZism9DgzHP3kNoyjtFjT7hqXX
Diet Cola: XdiEtmWyuEAaEKaD9wtfwvfPidLmQrTkh1
Rootbeer: Xroot4dLh7s8UeGsXjpLVd5K7WZU8GD7Qj
Mineral Water: XminwjYtcBwEGTohxZKLZkyooRyEWuQKPQ
Voting for the soda (or pop) in the InstantX vending machine starts now.
Thanks for voting.
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