I'm not sure what ponzi is? Like I said I work out a dividends plan , some dividends plan I have look at I did not like , That paid dividends for gold, silver was if you buys share and hold them, but you had to buy minimum 50.000 share and hold then for 60 days to earn dividends , I did not think investors like to wait 60 days to earn dividends , so I'm trying to work out a fair dividends plan for all ... After review, we have taken the decision to reject HZGOLD as a trusted asset at this time. The reasons are as follows: 1. The description of this asset is extremely confusing and consists of nothing more than vague statements about how 'HZGOLD is best asset'. 2. There is no mention of how this asset will create value for investors. 3. The Twitter account seems to be hastily set up and (apart from Pizpie), has zero followers and again seems to consist of poorly worded and vague statements about the benefits of investing in gold - not even HZGOLD... just gold. There is no other information to be found at all. 4. The submitted logo again appears to be very hastily constructed. Simply finding a picture of some gold on Google Images and writing 'HORIZON ASSET HZGOLD' over the top in default black verdana font is not convincing us that much thought has gone into any of this. 5. You claim to have a plan for HZGOLD, however nobody has seen this apart from 'a financial services that is know very well about cryptocurrency and how it works'. Would it not have been better to get feedback from the actual community rather than rely on the opinion of an unnamed 'financial services that is know very well about cryptocurrency'? 6. From your post, it appears that English is not your first language, yet your name, 'Kevin Prell' is an English name. I then googled your name and found a twitter account for https://twitter.com/kprell26 which seems to be much better written and corresponds with some of the older posts made on this account. I could be wrong, but there is such a huge difference between the language styles that it leads me to wonder if this account might have been compromised. If you could post something to @kprell26 about this asset, it would certainly help in this aspect. As mentioned above, the multiple red flags mean that unfortunately, we are unable to endorse HZGOLD. Thank you for your work investigating. This asset was red alert for me from the beginning.  |
|
|
|
To martismartis
I'm working a dividends plan , The HZ collected from share will go for that , ( this for a example
If you bye share of HZGold and hold them , I will pay you dividends back in HZ) , but the time frame has not set up yet. I'm working on that .
I will update the dividends plan soon
kprell40
Are you creating a ponzi? From where dividends will come? Could give us some business plan of how you will earn prifit and pay dividends? |
|
|
|
Asset Announcement
Asset Name HZGOLD
Asset Id: 12279329634424595840
Gold is the most popular as an investment,When asked why we invest in gold the standard answer often involves, ‘because it is a safe haven. Is gold a safe haven everywhere? YES or NO for gold to act as a stabilizing force for financial markets by reducing losses when it is most needed.’When and why we invest in gold Traditionally we refer to gold priced in dollars,looking at daily data the authors ‘find evidence of the strong-form safe haven’ for Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, the UK and the US Is Investing In Gold Still A Good Idea? People from every sector of society have been talking about investing in gold for years now. That some investors achieved incredible earnings relying on this precious metal is undeniable So in closing Let all make HZ GOLD One of the Best ASSET -Kevin
https://twitter.com/kprell44
I also filled out A Trusted Asset Form Waiting for the approval
update special
the pricing as follows
First 100000 shares 10 Hz each
Second 100000 shares 15 Hz each
Third 100000 shares 20 Hz each
and so on
kprell40
Is your asset backed by gold? What is the purpose of this asset? Any dividends planned? |
|
|
|
|
Curious, why nobody is using NZxchange for exchange to btc or NXT? There is no liquidity at the moment.
|
|
|
|
Topped up! And what a great time to be running a node. 700 HZ per day at the moment
Didn't receive for today  217.17.88.5 |
|
|
|
i find it quite silly that they are even considering NXT .... there are so many other options like ethereum and bitshares and counterparty. seriously nxt???
i mean i've been reading about it and everyone says its a premine scam...
so i dont know what to believe anymore...
maybe i should install the nxt wallet to see for myself. -_-
Yes, it could be good start before making your conclusions |
|
|
|
I shan't say more. You have equal purview to the same things I have. But whatever you said is a lie, if not,
You need to show why it's a lie. Originally the "fair distribution" slogan was based on the fact that 75% would be distributed. 10% were for developers and marketers. And 15% for future development. Some people though that even 25% was pretty high as UP had also collected plenty of BTC and Nxt during the IPO. That 25% number ended up becoming 71% at launch date as shown here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022311.0That's your "fair distribution". Never mind that the worlds population is 7 billion and 9.99995% of humans actually have zero nem. The whole idea of "fair distribution" is a joke to start with.. I am sorry but I have to agrre here for a moment. 71% coins held by the DEVs is not doing us much good with the people coming from the outside, but hey decision has been made and we have to live with it!! The 71% number is complete and udder FUD. http://blockexplore.in/search/richlist/ 74% of NEM is held by only 100 accounts, which looks worse until you release that almost 2/3 of that 74%, (e.i., almost exactly half of all XEM) is money being held not by individuals but by funds held in multisig accounts set aside for massive development and ecosystem projects. http://blockexplore.in/search/richlist/ Of those funds they are being held in multi-sig, devs are a minority signers. And when you exclude those special funds to fuel projects, what is left is one of the most amazing distributions of any crypto. http://blockexplore.in/graphs/bubble-chart-no-dev/NXT FUDsters are coming in here with complete lies. When in reality NXT was started by 70 people at most, but instead probably had lots of sock puppets. On top of that even today 74% of NXT is all held by 0.13% of NXT account (143). https://nxtblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_distributionPlease notice how FUDsters provide no links or proof of evidence of their lying numbers, yet repeat it over and over again. NXT is a good platform, but some of them are very shameful. Jabo With all respect to XEM team, please don't use PROBABLY, when you try to compare facts. Nobody knows and nobody will know, how it was in reality with NXT distribution and sockpuppets, so let's forget about this and move on. I'm sure there will be left some sockpuppets also in XEM distribution, but I'm not saying it as a fact, it could be PROBABLY. If you try to discuss with facts, so please discuss with real facts, not with PROBABLY. P.S. 74% of XEM is held in funds, PROBABLY multisig key holders are the same sockpuppet person. Is it fact or what? P.P.S. I hold both, NXT and XEM. EDITED: some typing erros. Please stop saying this! How many times do I have to post the links to block explorers? http://blockexplore.in/search/richlist/ almost exactly 50% of funds are held in multisig accounts to fund future projects. http://blockexplore.in/graphs/bubble-chart/The other half has been distributed. http://blockexplore.in/graphs/bubble-chart-no-dev/Furthermore, I don't have any proof so I deleted my comment that you took offense too. My bad, my mistake. OK, 50%. This doesn't change my main thought, that comparing PROBABLY and straight facts in discussion leads to nowhere |
|
|
|
I shan't say more. You have equal purview to the same things I have. But whatever you said is a lie, if not,
You need to show why it's a lie. Originally the "fair distribution" slogan was based on the fact that 75% would be distributed. 10% were for developers and marketers. And 15% for future development. Some people though that even 25% was pretty high as UP had also collected plenty of BTC and Nxt during the IPO. That 25% number ended up becoming 71% at launch date as shown here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1022311.0That's your "fair distribution". Never mind that the worlds population is 7 billion and 9.99995% of humans actually have zero nem. The whole idea of "fair distribution" is a joke to start with.. I am sorry but I have to agrre here for a moment. 71% coins held by the DEVs is not doing us much good with the people coming from the outside, but hey decision has been made and we have to live with it!! The 71% number is complete and udder FUD. 74% of NEM is held by only 100 accounts, which looks worse until you release that almost 2/3 of that 74%, (e.i., almost exactly half of all XEM) is money being held not by individuals but by funds held in multisig accounts set aside for massive development and ecosystem projects. http://blockexplore.in/search/richlist/ Of those funds they are being held in multi-sig, devs are a minority signers. And when you exclude those special funds to fuel projects, what is left is one of the most amazing distributions of any crypto. http://blockexplore.in/graphs/bubble-chart-no-dev/NXT FUDsters are coming in here with complete lies. When in reality NXT was started by 70 people at most, but instead probably had lots of sock puppets. On top of that even today 74% of NXT is all held by 0.13% of NXT account (143). https://nxtblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_distributionPlease notice how FUDsters provide no links or proof of evidence of their lying numbers, yet repeat it over and over again. NXT is a good platform, but some of them are very shameful. Jabo With all respect to XEM team, please don't use PROBABLY, when you try to compare facts. Nobody knows and nobody will know, how it was in reality with NXT distribution and sockpuppets, so let's forget about this and move on. I'm sure there will be left some sockpuppets also in XEM distribution, but I'm not saying it as a fact, it could be PROBABLY. If you try to discuss with facts, so please discuss with real facts, not with PROBABLY. P.S. 74% of XEM is held in funds, PROBABLY multisig key holders are the same sockpuppet person. Is it fact or what? P.P.S. I hold both, NXT and XEM. EDITED: some typing erros. |
|
|
|
NXT and its community are amazing. Curious, main dev sleep sometimes? |
|
|
|
Do NHZ devs knows about found bug in NXT? |
|
|
|
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Release 1.4.17 https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/downloads/nxt-client-1.4.17.zipsha256: baf2eed8fb1b677b735c04a4b34efc506e8e9a091ae0c66e5dab767a31d60f6e nxt-client-1.4.17.zip Change log: This is a critical bugfix release. Everyone is required to update.Fixed validation of asset exchange order cancellations. Fixed excessive memory usage in unconfirmed transaction processing. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVM1nhAAoJEFOhyXc7+e2AoOwQAKYni5TVfMh6CndO/hkJCT1i G5Pg+Abqnx/cE8d6l2j/FIov5eCSCN66Sjva65EFh2wxuYWnSDEXHYf+LBO1bxh4 ZSSbOdUECPapQk2S5byggPBYpxW4PnNnyFF5xaxTYWoASs+RUsap3T0ZzyLprq2c +NdJ4McFyBIwRSQESzY4SDSKD6vI1umby1eJraCa7ES99JJcu3s/3BnjoH8FIf7l CHmw6t7q7iVnAeQFep3BJxnIe7Pqr7+XlhU2uZ1wyb2WyJBPQj4fSqOISUmtqIhD ayemgEOWDh0KQAvE949kO9V97Mf13y5DSonkdWzMjcEbE/lAKuUShh9eJ0URnM+9 VKreVgGwm0yCdw0rBw+z/2x6pQbrp+MTU6EShbdCUCJv7dqHCpeIi4h/Gklog/8I kKjWzCfFcvRCnLRP7U2MGAb8P+zAeYuRRHic1A6xl8Cp1p685dm3fg80ZvahpgQr 0QLHKtrZGEs3cAQwUo/4CrTExFoYjqtyYYX0LuYjQrXrLELWis+yjxKzf8Iq3BDf oaWHezwb7aLIoWFGSs3Jxv61Zo20YMfMZqom9M/DE8usapShIZ1Gkto93XYjUFkl r1DyqQPKfSRJHKoYZt42+TnkhnWkkgP1+KAMf/WH6NZTVQ7Pvs7LjSGnwAxyZ0tS EMzX2idJXJpeqleZmLZo =5qu9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
|
|
|
Are there any volume in those exchanges? Volumes: Bter- zero Btc38- 4.3 btc |
|
|
|
Picture
How to exchange assets/tokens to real BTC or NXT? |
|
|
|
Hey !!
Is there a genesis account to HZ?
This is ridiculous you made my day I'm happy I made you laugh but can you answer the question? Do you know a coin without genesis? To satisfy your curiosity: See 4 posts back. ok ok... what i meant, and wasn't clear at all i guess is whether there is a genesis account which acts as a provably unspendable address? like the one in NXT. Yes, HZ is clone of NXT. |
|
|
|
Hey !!
Is there a genesis account to HZ?
This is ridiculous you made my day I'm happy I made you laugh but can you answer the question? Spent additional seconds of my life: could you please check few post before you question? |
|
|
|
Hey !!
Is there a genesis account to HZ?
This is ridiculous you made my day |
|
|
|
Really, can somebody either explain or give me a hint or a link on how Horizon/NXT Assets can be deleted after they are no longer valid? I might start a very small experimental asset for some real life physical goods - but if one day the goods are sold, the asset holders should sell their asset shares back to me (for the value of the sold goods), and after they did, of course the shares have to be destroyed (because the goods can only be sold once). How do I do it? Does it have something to do with the coloured coins like in this quote:? ...as the colored coins are turned in for services, they will be sent to a "burn" account and never used again, essentially removed from the supply and increasing the rarity.
And is there something in the NXT (HZ) system which can destroy obviously invalid, outdated assets? I asked this question before without any answer: A question about assets:
There seem to be old assets in the system, e.g. assets for bets on the worldcup 2014. Will they stay there forever or is there a way to remove them?
I just want to understand it, or is this an unsolved problem in the system? Thank you P.S. Maybe I should look for the explanation on the NXT forum, not here... You can send unused assets to genesis account. Just I don't ID of it. Maybe somebody from devs can write here ID of genesis account. EDIT: Seems genesis account ID is NHZ-8HAA-H88W-UVT5-DUGLV. If yous send HZ or asset to it, they are gone forever. |
|
|
|
I am from Kiev and the fighting does not concern us, it is a different region of the country
Good you a here. And what about other team members (koop4u, etc.)? There is no updates what is going on with NODE. |
|
|
|
|
Devs, what is going with the network, nodes shut down?? My NIS shut down without any notice.
|
|
|
|
|
Theoretical:
1. I have 2 different PC's
2. Creating new different wallets on both of them.
3. Creating new account with the same private key in both of them.
4. Starting harvesting locally in two different PC's with the same account.
Questions:
A. Will this kind of harvesting work with the same account on 2 different PC's?
B. Will this configuration increase POI for account?
|
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
