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I thought we lived in an autonomous collective? Help help I'm being repressed!
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It is good there are more than just me putting together this information in a clearer way. Would you maybe be interested in working with me on CoinCanary?
Sounds interesting! What is your vision for the site? |
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Hey, could you add links to the miners respective threads?
I saw that you added links in the spreadsheet. But would nice to have them in this thread also.
They're under the chart.  To save space I made everyone's name a link to their page. I changed the thread name so people will look for them. |
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Well, think of it this way: one avalon chip consumes 2.05 watts. Multiply this by 16 chips on one Klondike board: 32.8W
Add a few watts for general board consumption: 10W
Total consumption for one Klondike16 miner at full speed: 42.8W
Total hashpower of one Klondike16, minus 5%: 4286 MH/s
Calculated MH/s/W: [wow, i just realized how round the numbers came out]: 100.1
As soon as I can figure this out I'll start posting the roi. Just trying to make it fair for scaling up, the "Add a few watts" part is ending up being hard to pin down, but I think the estimate will still be close. Cairnsmore1 price is wrong. The price is £600.
Great, thanks. Was that an old price? |
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Poor camel, if you get matched with me I'll give you a free kill. and yes viscera.. It's a trap! |
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Great resource, I can see I have a lot to learn! Wish I knew about this when I was making my chart. asicminer.com link isn't working anymore.. maybe it's just offline atm, I think I was there yesterday |
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Correction: Our lead time is not August. Orders placed today we'll ship at the end of June.
Thanks! |
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Any chance we can get read only access to that spreadsheet?
I 2nd this. Maybe you could put it up on Google docs or something? I don't see any reason why not, I'll look into that. Well, think of it this way: one avalon chip consumes 2.05 watts. Multiply this by 16 chips on one Klondike board: 32.8W
Add a few watts for general board consumption: 10W
Total consumption for one Klondike16 miner at full speed: 42.8W
Total hashpower of one Klondike16, minus 5%: 4286 MH/s
Calculated MH/s/W: [wow, i just realized how round the numbers came out]: 100.1
I haven't done the calculations on each unit, as I really don't have the information, but I was thinking the same thing. For now I'll just put what I have up. |
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ASIC You can see here that the more likely you are to get an one from a company the more expensive they are.
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Erg ya got me! True, but I can't find anyone to buy from damn regulators.. was just about to gox some money to bits |
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 I would love to but after staying up 2 hours later than I wanted all I could find was this.. I thought maybe I had missed a few, but there are very few people with obvious stats on this. BFL site says they aren't currently releasing data on power consumption. Uh... a couple days before product is supposed to be in consumer hands? |
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Unless BTC keeps rising. An investment in mining this year that doesn't cover electricity cost could make a very good return in a couple years. At some point we could be looking back wishing we were doing processor mining up to the point ASIC's came out, much less GPU's. |
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Bitcoin price has no correlation to mining difficulty whatsoever.
Bitcoin will not become more scarce. There still will be 3,600 coins mined a day for the next 3+ years until the block reward halves again.
I think this derailed the conversation. It looked like he was arguing that GPU's would still be quite valid in the future as the price of a BTC rises. If we were still at last years prices with today's difficulty GPU's wouldn't be worth it. We never would have gotten this many people putting their processing power in without the rise in BTC, and couldn't have gotten to this difficulty. The price has a lot to do with total network hashrate. As ASIC's come in, the future of the GPU will be determined by the price of a bitcoin, like he said in the first post. There are a lot of people with a lot of bitcoin who want it to succeed, the price will rise. GPU's future look fairly rosy. |
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So it seems they are currently in production & as yet unshipped, unless there has been any subsequent announcement?
I moved them from ? to yes? |
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Why does it says that we're not shipping? We're working at our 4rd batch which ships next week.
Looked at your webpage today, says your out of stock, but I'll move you over to yes as this does look misleading. What is your current lead time? Webpage says another order will come in 7-10 days, and then another a couple weeks after. Are all of those ordered? |
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My estimation is with chips added. Since I've added a column to signify whether buyer is bringing chips the data could be teased out of the chart, but still might cause confusion.
All of the sellers in your situation have chip cost added.
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This is truly interesting, will this be kept up to date?
Daily Thanks, I have been looking for other FPGA systems. -edit: I can't find Mhash/s on the enterpoint site. Do you suggest another thread to decrease tension, or because you feel it would be a more valid metric? I realize they are quite different systems, but if you're pricing the ASICs that are actually available right now, they do seem comparable. If the list were to be split would it make more sense to split to 'shipping product' vs 'not shipping product'? I do like the idea of having everything in one spot, easy access. *disclaimer: This post is not an endorsement of any of the companies mentioned.
Added. where is ASICMINER blade?
I'll change Bitfountain to ASICMiner to reduce confusion. So has the BitFountain's Blockerupter really been shipped yet?
I thought I saw people saying they received, but I can't find that now. I'm going to move it back over to 'no' but if anyone can clarify this, I would love to know. |
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