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581  Economy / Economics / Re: plan for the future with bitcoin on: September 10, 2017, 04:32:07 AM
now this bitcoin has a lot to use as a place of investment
but I want bitcoin as a front investment who have done it
let's share with me how to invest with bitcoin for the future

First of all My Question to your question, For what you want to invest Bitcoin? Bitcoin itself is investment. You can invest your Useless fiat for Bitcoin just like you invest in any other sector to make money there is no need to invest Bitcoin in any other investment to make money Bitcoin itself is investment, if you want to invest your Fiat and if you have some Ideas in mining my suggestion will be on mining if not Trading.
                  You have a point there my friend. Since bitcoin is already an investment its up to you to decide whether you are going to hold it or not as it is really an investment itself. I also do not know why most people see it as a usual common currency and they just wanted to spend it like some common fiats for their day to day transactions or currency as well.
582  Economy / Economics / Re: Maybe governments can stop bitcoin after all on: September 05, 2017, 04:26:03 PM
No, that's not gonna be happen. We all know that government was categorize in centralization system while Bitcoin was categorize in decentralization were obviously the government can't able to control bitcoin because of this wonderful and great features of bitcoin.
              Yeah i really agree with that opinion by the way, and i think it wont really happen because to think how much it differs and how does it run. Maybe for some reasons it would also affect the proce of bitcoin when some kind of law would be endorsed relevant to bitcoin but still i believe it will remain alive and it will rise again.
583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am an Chinese, and I know what happened, and I will buy more crypto assets. on: September 05, 2017, 02:21:21 PM
I am one of Chinese.
I am not afraid of govment's order. And I am not afraid of market price down.
I will have more crypto coins later. I promise.

This time I have 40BTCs, 30BCHs, 50ETHs, 105ZECs, 55XMRs, and 36000XRPs,
What ever the gov said, I will going on my road,
I'm sure that The block chain will win at the end.
I will have 50-100BTCs, 100ETHs, 200ZECs, at 2018. if the market give me a chance.

In China, there are many many people knows the evolution of the block chain technology that brings to us,
They have the same choice just like me.
The world are huge, and we are not along.
I am being here just to say that.
Good to hear that but is China government planning to ban cryptocurrency?

I lived in China for 45 years. And I leaned just one thing about the gov.
The gov never do something permanent. They order this, and order that, just like open or close the windows.
Don't trust him.
Or you will be fooled.

Actually I do believe in you, you guys have a different constitution there other country like in the Philippines, I do agree to you that governments in China only do thing temporarily, they will soon stop banning crypto and for that to happen some investors need to take some actions, there is too much business man in china that uses crypto so there is a high probability that crypto will be legal again in China.
                If that's the case then chinese that are really interested and willing to invest in crypto shouldn't panic and not bother because as what you have said it may be a temporary order, besides citizens living in that country are powerless so they cannot do anything aside from obeying the orders of the government or the ones who has the power, since they have decided that it would be ban, it will still be up to the person if he or she is willing to risk and disobey.
584  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: September 05, 2017, 08:55:15 AM
yes of course, about 10 months ago I invest bitcoin $ 2200 and now to $ 9700, I am very happy because bitcoin prices continue to rise even though in 3 days it has dropped $ 1000.
               Woah really? That was a vey high progress considering it is just within a year, how much more if it will be next year? That was very fortunate for you to hear you've gain so much, and at the same time it is also an inspiring story that you should gamble in order for you to be successful. As i can remember i start!led investing in bitcoin almost 4 months ago and so far i gained much but not as much as you did, I got only few bucks when i started and just risk it.
585  Economy / Exchanges / Re: If you are trader on: September 05, 2017, 06:57:59 AM
This is interesting. Do you have a website up and ready?

I suggest having support for Bitfinex and Bittrex too. As I think more and more people are moving away from Poloniex, due to their funds being locked up and their customer support not replying for months. So you probably wont have enough users using your site.

+1. You definitely need to add other exchanges. Developments at Poloniex do not look good. It's a red flag when withdrawals are held pending indefinitely and you can't get any response from customer support. I certainly won't risk my coin there.


are these poloniex signs going to crumble? I see some people online in poloniex only 2k people, whereas before 400k people can get online there, and now troll box also been deleted, I am very afraid if poloniex indeed colaps, because my assets are many there.

I'm not sure mate, but if I were you I would try to get my funds out of Poloniex ASAP as they indeed might and will most likely collapse in the future in my opinion. What I think is they currently have a problem that they couldn't fix/fund. Move them ASAP to better exchanges like Bittrex.

Here are some complaints:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMarkets/comments/6sevhr/update_poloniex_not_letting_me_withdraw_my_funds/
https://www.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments/6g8jp2/poloniex_withdrawals_who_else_is_still_waiting/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6ssti7/poloniex_holding_funds_even_after_withdrawal/

Poloniex is not a better option when you are dealing with exchanging in bitcoins. Due to lack of security, long terms waiting for fund transferring, high fees, not a better interactive system handling. It has been rejected many times on this forum for better trading.
                                    Actually before, I was also one of the traders using Poloniex, but when that someday came when I had encountered trouble about my funds and due also to the changes of the system and its platform, I shifted and transferred to other trading platform like Bittrex, and there i continued my trading. Before it was used to be called as the best trading site but now, i guess its not already, I have heard also so many negative feed backs about their site, rumors spreading and news about the site going down.
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICO is termed as "unauthorized illegal public financing" by Chinese Regulator on: September 05, 2017, 04:22:54 AM
#ICO is termed as "unauthorized illegal public financing" and "suspected of illegal fundraising" in the regulation paper.

https://twitter.com/redtheminer/status/904541548599164928

Very interesting. I look forward to the translation. Is it painting all ICOs with a broad brush -- are all ICOs considered to be illegal? Or just some, like the SEC suggested for Americans?

Anybody have any idea how big the Chinese market is for the ICO sector, and whether this will curb Chinese investment? Or will people just ignore the regulatory guidance and/or use VPN to get around any restrictions placed by ICO administrators?
Everyone that wants to invest will still find a way to invest, there are an endless sea of VPNs now to bypass stupid bans. Also when it comes to regulation, China seems to be too stupid to realize how by doing this they may be losing on the next legit coin that challenges Bitcoin and may be funded thought an ICO. They are stopping innovation. I understand that people that aren't knowledgeable should be protected from scammers, but not at the cost of killing all possible innovation founded through an ICO. ICO doesn't mean guaranteed scam, so I hope this ban doesn't mean a ban of all ICOs, but some ICOs.
                  I guess they saw crypto currency as a threat to their country and maybe they really think that it does that is also maybe why they see it as illegal, but it is just in my own point of view. Well still investors doesn't really care anything about that, and i usually think and according to what you said they will finds its way to invest for their own good, besides we cannot stop them by just telling, it is their own money and decision in the end.
587  Economy / Economics / Re: Do we need blockchain technology? on: September 05, 2017, 01:03:28 AM
We need blockchain technology it is something new unique and beneficial. Do we need all shitcoins and useless project based on blockchain technology? Not really.
But market and life will verify everything, worthless projects will be abandoned and die out, there is no need to worry.
I am sure that people were asking the same thing about the internet - why do we need it when there are so many useless websites around?


                  Yeah! I do really agree with you, since there are also projects that are only good at the beginning and some worst case is that it is only popular for about weeks or months then suddenly the popularity would go down and in the end it would just be forgotten and be phased out. Keep in mind that most of the successful project up until now or up to date are projects that are beneficial or still being used right now, just like you have said someone or few people would really ask what's the purpose of the internet.
588  Economy / Economics / Re: I want to invest 1000 USD into crypto on: September 04, 2017, 10:58:51 AM
             It should be more wiser to seek first some guidance and learning references, like what you did here, ask some opinions and further advises for you to understand. For me and in my own point of view, you can buy directly bitcoin or any other crypto or alternate coins that are promising for me, and then if you are not in a hurry just keep it inside your wallet maybe someday it could be worth double or more than you have invested, but if you are much likely like a day trader you can search guides on how to make some TA for your own entry and exit points.
589  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we push the actual use of Bitcoin ? on: September 03, 2017, 03:44:10 AM
Bitcoin is almost famous now all over the world.Till now,no one has pushed it to get this much popular.People have got attracted by it due to its high increase in price and low transaction fee.The only thing we have to solve is high transaction fee due to which transactions got stuck.Segwit has been activated to solve this issue and once it gets completely locked in,transaction fee would get reduced.Another thing which could be done is to explain to our friends and relatives about bitcoin.
                           Well i think its because more countries are being hesitant to decide if they are going to legalized it or not, and i think they are just waiting for someone or some other country that would legalized it first and then they would be following it so on. One of the problems also and as you have stated about transaction fees and hoping someday it would be resolve also, and for those who doesn't clearly understand bitcoin someday they will realize it though.
590  Economy / Services / Re: Social Signature & Avatar Campaign(full) on: August 30, 2017, 02:05:21 PM
          Hello sir i would like you to inform that i hace recieved the payment for this week, thank you very much and keep up the good work.
591  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Bitcoin Signature campaigns on: August 29, 2017, 05:33:09 PM
         There are several ways to earn bitcoins. Pansin ko lang din marami na rin akong nabasang mga threads gaya nito noon, meron naman pong mga rules diyan na sticky post, mga guides din para sa mga kakasimula pa lang, pero anyway try to look at the service section marami pong mga signature campaigns doon baka gusto nyo po mag try.
592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Discourage by our country. on: August 29, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
First.
It was a ban on banks dealing with bitcoins. It is nothing special as there is no bank anywhere in this world that handles bitcoin deposits.
No not mistake banks transferring funds to or from exchanges with banks accepting bitcoins.

Secondary.
Africa generally lags behind. Even if bitcoin would be legally accepted by banks you would see no major change.
Right now you can own BTC transfer BTC buy things with BTC but yet.... how many do?
Most of them just trade around localbitcoins trying to make a living out of a 2-3% fee but in RL there is nothing.



              I think you were right. It is not that your country doesn't really care or it was being descriminated along with the other countries, but can you see and as what have he said, there is not much change if it would be legalized or be accepted in your country immediately. Just don't worry time would really pass, maybe one day your dream may come true, but as of now we could only say that because the improvements has not yet been seen.
593  Economy / Economics / Re: stable currency on: August 29, 2017, 10:55:26 AM
It will never be as stable as gold and others because its characteristics are different from others, bitcoin price is volatile so the price will never become stable even in the future. If you are talking about  reliable in terms of stability then i think bitcoin is reliable enough by observing its price even after hard fork.
Yes bitcoin is a digital currency, so it will never stable. And suppose if it is stable then there is no use for traders. And who are invested big amount on this Bitcoin they will not get any profit. So people will not let this currency to become stable. Even I also don't like the stable price for this Bitcoin. If it is stable, then there is no use to wait for a long time to make a profit. 

From one angle this is true, but look at the price at the moment if we are looking at the long term stable price then simple and clean answer is NO, bitcoin will never be stable in this long run as gold. But for short term we saw after every major change or movement in market that after that we see price stable in period between changes.

So we could say that in some point bitcoin is stable.
                  Yeah you were right, if only bitcoin has a fixed value in the market then it could happen as soon as possible, but if that would also happen it would lost its volatiliy and that trait is one  reason why people find it more interesting. I guess it would really not happening and also one more thing it could also lost the interest of all people who have invested their money in bitcoin. Just imagine it, it really is horrible thing to happen.
594  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC as a national currency? on: August 29, 2017, 06:43:16 AM
I hope bitcoin to be accepted in all countries as a legitimate means of exchange. we do not need to redeem fiat money into money exchange services. if bitcoin can be used to buy plane tickets is great.
                      It is not that easy, and it will take time to have progress, besides bitcoin yet has a lot to improve. Right now bitcoin is still being talked to so many forums and anywhere, they can see great potential to it as well as us here. In different perspective i think if bitcoin will be legally accepted in the economy and it would be approved by the government, i think  we would have to pay more fees because of taxes they put upon.
595  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Time is Gold? on: August 29, 2017, 05:19:47 AM
sabi nga ng previous adviser ko, "Time is more valuable than gold, because you can buy gold, but you cannot buy time." Sabi rin niya isa ang time in showing respect sa isang taong ka negotiate mo. Because, respecting time is also respecting people. Sa usapang bitcoin you must be willing in sacrificing your time just to put an extra effort on it. Di ka lang dapat post ng post, dapat after ng campaign, magbasa basa ka din ng ibang posts sa isang thread then humanap ka ng another campaign na pwede mong salihan . The more campaign you're involved with, fhe more profit you gain.
                     Precisely! kaya dapat marunong kang tumupad ng pangako, lalo na kapag may negotiation na magaganap, kasi it involves time and expectation. Para kasi sa iba laro-laro lang yan, pero sa mga bigtime businessman, limited ang oras nila because of appointments, although they can reserve their own time for other matters. Sa tingin ko kapag di ka tumupad sa usapan or may next time man na mag meet kayo, instead na iba ang pag-uusapan nyo maiba na yan next time. Sa bitcoin naman , ahm hindi ako masyadong komportable ehh kapag wala ako masyadong mga campaign, medyo nasanay na rin kasi ako.
596  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 28, 2017, 03:23:38 PM
in my opinion to is get profit in better amount is that you should hold btc for a log amd and then sell it for your profit with increase price . in this way we can get profit with small risk .
The question is when the best time to sell , and if you have big amount in your balances , it doesn't matter as long as you can divided your balances into different source . But , hold it for the few years without spending , it's lazy way to earn for me.

Holding is not a bad way unless you have some other sources for earning as well and those ways must be increasing your held bitcoins, but if you just have some bitcoins and doing nothing but just holding them then that is really not a good decision.

Yeah and to make profits from only holding you need to wait for a long time as you never know when price will g o higher, so its good to trade with them to get regular profits and also to increase the level of coins.

But trading is also high risk until you dont have good bankroll, you can do is giving your skills for bitcoin payment and like this you will start to earning bitcoins and you can save big and even do some investment of holding them.

Holding is safe but not profitable, if can give you good profits only if price goes higher but the number of coins will be the same it will not grow by holding, even if you trade with small amount it can increase the level of your coins slowly and steadily.

Yes,holding of bitcoin is safe but I don't agree when yu said holding of bitcoin is not profitable cos holding is profitable. Are you saying some people that bought bitcoin when the incident of bitfinex happen don't make any profit now that the price of bitcoin is $625?

Holding bitcoin can give us a bigger profit and with that we will have the chance to become rich but we cannot say it as a steady income per month etc, as in some times the price of bitcoin increases in some times it drops a little and in some times it remains stable. so with holding we have to start another business also.
I agree man best way to get steady income is hold ur bitcoin for a long time or always join and signature campaign to ear a lot of bitcoin for ur future money. Or go to any faucet but its so small amount of bitcoin u can get all you need is workhard and be patience.
At some point it is true, so the main point is this, while working here in the forum and once you already earned bitcoin just hold it for good right? well this sounds also interesting but we do not know what might come unto us, keep in mind that this is not the only thing we have to focus, there are also lots of stuffs we need to do daily, and in my own experience, I have a day time job in an office, while after I got home I used to work here in the forum as my side job and earn BTC.
597  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world? on: August 28, 2017, 12:23:47 PM
After the events of last week.

I was making this suggestion to some folks yesterday, but they claimed that bitcoin is too small.  Does it matter?
Bitcoin today is very popular and we all know that it's value is constantly increasing though there are still times where it goes down by just a little. Compared to the other currencies, it may have the chance to become the strongest but the fact that it is not yet legalized in the whole world makes us jump into the conclusion that it will still take up a long time before bitcoin will made it to the top. Dollars I think is the strongest right now but I know someday bitcoin will be able to take over it.
               As much as I agree with you, because bitcoin is an international currency and that makes it very strong. I have read some articles before saying that the reason why bitcoin is not yet legalized in some other countries is that, it is also considered as illegal, or some or maybe few are using it in illegal activities. I had also read that bitcoin has creating competition against fiat that is why the government will not legalize it or maybe it will take time until it would be legalized.
598  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Best way mo para mag earn nang bitcoin on: August 28, 2017, 10:41:19 AM
          Basic way at most common dito sa forum ay ang pagsali sa mga signature, at mostly alam na ng lahat yun, yung iba naman, sa trading o kaya sa gambling. Pero kailangan mo ng puhunan once gusto mo mag gamble or mag trade para makabili ka ng mga coins na gusto mo, yung iba dito ginagawang puhunan ang kinikita nila sa signature campaigns para makapag trade man o maka gamble. Kanya kanyang diskarte po kasi dito.
599  Other / Off-topic / Re: BITCOIN TALK USERS MOSTLY ARE??? on: August 28, 2017, 04:37:35 AM
                              I guess this is maybe be off topic or some ice breaker question I think. Well anyway there is no specific gender here in the forum and I guess mostly here are Males, while only a little percentage of them are female. It is a bit obvious after all, and in my opinion why mostly the population in this forum are men, its because Males do like to adventure and discover new things, they like things that are complicated to begin with, they always want to explore new experiences and doesn't want to play safely and just wait for something to happen, they want something they made to happen.
600  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think that in near future BTC would be connected with mobile number? on: August 27, 2017, 08:15:35 AM
                   Maybe? We are not sure if somebody would make that kind of service, but to think about it, there is a high chance that it might happen in the future, nobody knows about it. We are really advancing so far and as we can even see in our society, they are slowly modifying and improving what has been for the benefit of humankind, because we knew that there are so many brilliant minds and ideas existing.
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