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You are fully aware they don't pay the rakeback as advertised. (I was missing over $2k, they lied about it and ignored me)
I also think players deserve to know:
-Community is heavily censored and full of scammers.
- They have been converting usd/btc at more than 10% under market rate.
- Current scam accusation involving Betcoin siding with software provider over a 500+ btc jackpot. Look into it and make your own opinion.
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You are fully aware they don't pay the rakeback as advertised. (I was missing over $2k, they lied about it and ignored me)
I also think players deserve to know:
-Community is heavily censored and full of scammers.
- They have been converting usd/btc at more than 10% under market rate.
- Current scam accusation involving Betcoin siding with software provider over a 500+ btc jackpot. Look into it and make your own opinion.
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Please take advantage of some of the perks that this poker room has to offer:
-Great rakeback (actually the best in the industry)
-Massive overlays in MTT's and the Daily Coin
-2FA for added security
-Bonuses
-Community
-BTC and LTC deposits/cashouts
-No annoying conversions that USD sites have to do when depositing/withdrawing with BTC
You are fully aware they don't pay the rakeback as advertised. (I was missing over $2k, they lied about it and ignored me) I also think players deserve to know: -Community is heavily censored and full of scammers. - They have been converting usd/btc at more than 10% under market rate. - Current scam accusation involving Betcoin siding with software provider over a 500+ btc jackpot. Look into it and make your own opinion. |
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This is bullshit of the highest order. Of course they changed it after I have inundated them with emails to their support, and any other employee I could find the email address for. I have yet to get a response from them. This just shows that they screwed up in not having this language there before. Obviously they are covering their tracks. But my screenshots don't lie. When I was playing this language was not there. They should pay me this jackpot.
da fuq? Even the terms they changed it to, "any other bonus feature" are only making things more ambiguous than before. So it can be won on some? Seriously shady shit. The screen shots quoted in first reply were taken by me and not doctored in any way whatsoever. |
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I have been in contact with Betcoin. They should be posting to this thread a public response. They will support that I hit the 5 yachts on a free spin. They are caught in the middle of this. BetSoft is the decision maker in this matter. They are the ones who need to pay. As it was explained to me, and I do believe Betcoin, when you play a BetSoft game you are directly connected to their servers. All wins are paid by them directly to your account at the casino. All casinos who use their games receive a percentage of player losses. It works like an affiliate program. You bring BetSoft the players, and in return receive a percentage of their losses. Betcoin basically has no control or say in matters like this. All payouts come directly from BetSoft. So to all of you out there reading this how can I get BetSoft to pay?
Get Betcoin to quit throwing you under the bus in other threads. There is an open scam accusation regarding Betcoin.ag that hasn't been addressed properly. They seem to replying here so posting in this thread for further exposure. Would reconsider joining the campaign of a site with an open scam accusation and questionable game provider. Scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648This is not a scam accusation against Betcoin.ag. Jasonort is making a scam accusation against Betsoft and wanting us to help him more with his claim after Betsoft informed the player that a free spin doesn't qualify for the jackpot. We have contacted Betsoft for the player on multiple occasions. It would actually be in our benefit if jasonort won and we would have done a nice marketing campaign out of this with an interview, pictures and a lot more. If he won, Betsoft would have paid the player's Betcoin accounts directly and we but according to Betsoft's rules a free spin doesn't qualify for the bonus. This would be the same outcome at any online casino and we are very small client for Betsoft. We didn't receive any benefit from this and had the player qualified for the jackpot and Betsoft paid out the jackpot, player would already have the funds. We should note that jasonort knows that this dispute is with Betsoft and has made that very clear since day 1. Jasonort knows that we are here for him and all of our great players anytime. Just play their blackjack games and you'll understand why.
This type of accusation will only give Betsoft ammunition to defend themselves. We need evidence. |
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There is an open scam accusation regarding Betcoin.ag that hasn't been addressed properly. They seem to replying here so posting in this thread for further exposure. Would reconsider joining the campaign of a site with an open scam accusation and questionable game provider. Scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648This is not a scam accusation against Betcoin.ag. Jasonort is making a scam accusation against Betsoft and wanting us to help him more with his claim after Betsoft informed the player that a free spin doesn't qualify for the jackpot. We have contacted Betsoft for the player on multiple occasions. It would actually be in our benefit if jasonort won and we would have done a nice marketing campaign out of this with an interview, pictures and a lot more. If he won, Betsoft would have paid the player's Betcoin accounts directly and we but according to Betsoft's rules a free spin doesn't qualify for the bonus. This would be the same outcome at any online casino and we are very small client for Betsoft. We didn't receive any benefit from this and had the player qualified for the jackpot and Betsoft paid out the jackpot, player would already have the funds. We should note that jasonort knows that this dispute is with Betsoft and has made that very clear since day 1. Jasonort knows that we are here for him and all of our great players anytime. This is a signature campaign thread, why don't you head over to the scam accusation thread and respond to the numerous accusations against you instead of making up lies to defend the software you provide players. The policy from the beginning as advised by parent company was to not respond to forum posts that are not constructive, which our parent doesn't do. We tried to take a different approach, but when a player who claims to not like our site spends more time on our website than any other player and nearly as much time as staff and spams it with usernames like "faggot" and "LotsaPenises" as well as tries to impersonate members of the bitcoin community like Theymos we have to draw the line.
Following is just a sampling of one users accounts created over a 3 day period. You can probably guess what user it is. We will leave it to you to judge the users credibility.
User Last Login
sopro 1 min 39 sec
faggot 12 min 44 sec
TheRegulatr 46 min 34 sec
twitchyseal2111 49 min 2 sec
PantsSaggy 2 hours 53 min
OHJESSICAYEAH 5 hours 13 min
LotsaPenises 5 hours 26 min
twitchyseal202 5 hours 50 min
twitchyseal819 9 hours 57 min
Twitchyseal81 10 hours 40 min
twitchyseal78 13 hours 49 min
twitchyseal771 1 day 5 hours
OHYEAH64 1 day 6 hours
TruthySeal 2 days 32 min
HOHYEAH 2 days 2 hours
zzezzzzz 2 days 4 hours
zzzzzzzee 2 days 4 hours
plo8monstah 2 days 4 hours
plo8muncher8 2 days 4 hours
zzzzzeee 2 days 4 hours
zzzzzzs 2 days 5 hours
Theymos 2 days 8 hours
TwitchyTruthyABC 2 days 14 hours
TwitchyTruthy 2 days 14 hours
zzzzzzzzz 2 days 15 hours
twitchysealdeaux 2 days 15 hours
OHYEAH 2 days 19 hours
You would be disputing my allegations if you could, but instead this is all you can do. Imagine if you spent the time trying to silence me on fixing the issues I refuse to let you bury? I'll make a thousand more accounts if I have to, you can't shut me up. Sorry. (no I'm not) Or you could take the gto road and head over to the scam accusation forum, accept responsibility, and try to start making things right. This all started with you deleting my critical comments of Betsoft and refusing to explain why, other than "we can't have Betsoft reading comments like that" Why the hell not!? |
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I also encourage anyone who questions my credibility to speak up, I'm willing to be reasonable, respond to all questions and stand behind everything I've said about Betcoin.
Betcoin,
You would be disputing my allegations if you could, but instead this is all you can do.
Imagine if you spent the time trying to silence me on fixing the issues I refuse to let you bury?
I'll make a thousand more accounts if I have to, you can't shut me up. Sorry. (no I'm not)
Or you could take the gto road and head over to the scam accusation forum, accept responsibility, and try to start making things right.
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Bullshit called.
You're also still actively researching how scammers got into your database last Jan right?
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Hopefully this is a momentary lapse in judgement and not a pattern of abuse. I'm glad that they did the right thing (eventually). I think we can all say that compared to a site like Betcoin, Directbet is light years ahead when it comes to handling sensitive situations like this.
Couldn't agree more. |
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Is there any information on the player base?
I usually select places I play depending on the amount of active players.
I'm not sure which one that would be nowadays with Bitcoin.
I'll be adding that. Right now Bovada WPN sites have by far the largest player pools though. |
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Why do so many places need doc even for a small payout ? I dont like it at all.
Because they are fiat based and must follow fiat bank regulations. |
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As I've said before, I would would never send my real dox in Hungars situation.
If I did:
What if another double spend attempt happens, will DB assume it's me? What would he do with my dox then?
Also, he initially requested the dox be uploaded to imgur, suggesting he does not understand or respect what comes with keeping private information private.
DB, Delete whatever dox you have, return the voided wager and move on.
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We still have some spots open for select members in our great campaign and want to thank everyone for their interest. Also, please keep up the great, high quality posts, we appreciate your involvement!
They are only posting in shill campaign thread. Come join the fun. |
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The only place Betcoin has posted is in the shill campaign thread: We still have some spots open for select members in our great campaign and want to thank everyone for their interest. Also, please keep up the great, high quality posts, we appreciate your involvement!
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I've seen these cases Directbet willing to pay to the terms and conditions hungerstyle agreed but not yet meet the requirements At least I saw Directbet seriously want to solve this problem so we should appreciate it Did you see Directbet, an anonymous sportsbook, require a player upload their passport to imgur, a public image sharing site, to return their 38 bitcoin? Do you think this is reasonable? I don't. Yup someone who violate the rules must also respect the rules in force the requirement applies only to gamblers who violate the rules Directbet only anticipate if one day someone is claiming loss of BTC and find it in Directbet so Directbet could explain who owns the bitcoin Maybe you know Directbet assume hungerstyle is an hacker who attempted to defraud so it was the right way to anticipate if there is a problem in the future IMO These rules? You understand DirectBet is the on not respecting them. Before you question some things, You know a mistake doing hungerstyle ? If you know maybe we do not need to answer any questions No player should have to answer questions or provide personal information on a site that advertises "Anonymous, No questions asked!" |
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I've seen these cases Directbet willing to pay to the terms and conditions hungerstyle agreed but not yet meet the requirements At least I saw Directbet seriously want to solve this problem so we should appreciate it Did you see Directbet, an anonymous sportsbook, require a player upload their passport to imgur, a public image sharing site, to return their 38 bitcoin? Do you think this is reasonable? I don't. Yup someone who violate the rules must also respect the rules in force the requirement applies only to gamblers who violate the rules Directbet only anticipate if one day someone is claiming loss of BTC and find it in Directbet so Directbet could explain who owns the bitcoin Maybe you know Directbet assume hungerstyle is an hacker who attempted to defraud so it was the right way to anticipate if there is a problem in the future IMO These rules?  You understand DirectBet is the on not respecting them. |
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