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5821  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: getting money back from tradehill on: June 12, 2012, 11:27:22 AM
Here's one of the last messages on the topic from Jered of TradeHill.  It includes their e-mail address:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81644.msg903109#msg903109
5822  Economy / Services / Re: VANITY address 1makelovewithyoutonight on: June 12, 2012, 11:20:43 AM
unless someone come out with a vanity address pool.

Vanity pool discussion:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84569.0
5823  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]Rugatu Q&A launched in beta - using real bitcoins now ! on: June 12, 2012, 10:59:17 AM
If i'm not mistaken, the emails also include the link in clear text so, if your email service does not filter them, it should show up.

Yup, sending to a different mail service I see a text/plain part as well as a text/html.

So now I have no idea why I couldn't see it with the first one.  Maybe it was trying to render the HTML and couldn't.

Anyway, workaround followed and problem (for me) now solved.

5824  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in India on: June 12, 2012, 10:41:31 AM
This would not work as you can only buy bitcoins in countries where there are bitcoins.

Are there no Western Union or Moneygram locations which can be used to send a monet transfer?   Here's an exchange that accepts Western Union money transfer (converted to Canadian Dollars / CAD first):
 - http://www.canadianbitcoins.com/westernunion.php

And here's some digital currency exchanges where Liberty Reserve can be purchased.  Liberty Reserve can then be used to purchase Bitcoins.
[cautioin though, LR exchanges are notorious for hidden fees, delays, etc.]
 - http://lrbuysell.com
 - http://www.libertyreserveindia.in

Here are ones that takes cash deposit at ICICI Bank, State Bank of India, and AXIS Bank or payment using Payza (formerly AlertPay) for instance:
 - http://ashishhundekar.com/buy
 - http://www.entelnova.com/indexhome.htm


Instead of an intermediary, bitcoins could be earned from trade when exporting.  Including exporting labor.

Here's a talk by Michael Levinson, VP of Product, oDesk, which has a lot of freelancers from developing nations.  He describes the challenges to (and importance of) paying those contract workers.  Notice that the bitcoin topic just keeps coming up over and over by those in the audience.
 - http://vimeo.com/29287295

Also, nothing is stopping a person in India from sending funds using PayPal to a friend in San Francisco and asking that friend to go down to 7-11 and load the funds using BitInstant.  If there are tourists, presumably the tourists will be looking to buy rupees, and might be informed ahead of time that bitcoins traded for rupees once at the hotel are how to get the best exchange rate.  There's nothing stopping a person in India from adding listings to http://BitMit.net, or http://CoinDL.com, for instance, to try to earn bitcoins.  

And "remittance" doesn't have to work the way Western Union works.  With Western Union (or moneygram, or PayPal, or whatever), there is a per-transaction cost so the recipient wants to (or must) cash out everything at one time.  With Bitcoin, cashing out can be done as it is needed.  Or perhaps there are goods and services that those bitcoins would buy.  Like Airtel and TATA wireless:
 - http://www.bitcoinwireless.com (coming soon)  
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84348.0

Or web hosting, or VPN services, etc.
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade


Remittance aside, why don't we hear about mining in India? Plenty of computers and geeks.
And what about Indians (programmers, graphics designers, etc.) working for bitcoin? I don't see it?

One of the first mining operations on GLBSE (April, 2011) was DISHWARA:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5750.msg363437#msg363437
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5750.msg628733#msg628733
5825  Economy / Services / Re: Pay for your Prepaid Wireless Refills with bitcoins and save up to 5% on: June 12, 2012, 10:07:06 AM
Carriers available:
Airlink (3% discount)
Airvoice GSM (3% discount)
Alltel (3% discount)
AT&T Wireless (5% discount)
Boost Mobile (ONLY available as Real Time Reload)
Cricket  (4% discount)
H20 Wireless
i-Wireless (3% discount)
Movida Wireless (5% discount)
Net10 (3% discount)
Page Plus  (5% discount)
PlatinumTel (2% discount)
Ready Mobile PCS (5% discount)
Red Pocket (2% discount)
SIMPLE Mobile (2% discount)
STI Wireless (5% discount)
T-Mobile (2% discount)
TotalCall Mobile
TracPhone (5% discount)
Verizon (4% discount)
Virgin Mobile
Xtreme Wireless (2% discount)
Zapp Mobile (2% discount)

Are all of these U.S.-only, or do you have any wireless services for outside the U.S.?
5826  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - Verified rolls, up to 64,000x winning on: June 12, 2012, 09:25:08 AM
I have 12 transactions from 6/7/2012 that are still sitting unconfirmed in my wallet. The transaction IDs are not found on blockexplorer or blockchain.info, and the transaction ID on the payment sitting in my wallet does not match the transaction ID of the payment on Satoshidice.

Every one of your "MY SEND" payments does show in blockchain.info.  Each then shows in SatoshiDICE as CONFIRMED as well (meaning the payout has confirmed).

So SatoshiDICE looks to have properly received, and paid out to the origin address on each of those.

Now why you wouldn't see those as confirmed in your client, I have no idea.

Are you absolutely sure you have the latest block?  Currently it is block 184,160. (Shows in the bottom right, hover over the icon, for 0.6.2).

Take just the first transaction in your list.  Are you saying your client is at block 184,160 or greater and yet does not show a payment to that payout address for that specified payout amount (it should have at least 542 confirmations)?
5827  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Block Explorer (Abe) NMC/I0C/IXC/LTC/LQC (Up And Running!) on: June 12, 2012, 08:13:19 AM
I see there is Raw transaction, but is there the ability to view a Raw block?
5828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LTC solo mining - visible in block explorer? on: June 12, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
so I guess it is not visible there...

Are you looking here?
 - http://abe.lcgcraft.in:2750/chain/LiteCoin
5829  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: have 2166 MtGox Dollars for DWOLLA on: June 12, 2012, 07:39:58 AM
I consider myself somewhat repuable.

I think you missed TangibleCryptography's point.  You are the one selling the non-reversible currency.   It is you that would have the concern about whose funds from Dwolla you are accepting.  If your counterparty were to claim that fraud occurred after the funds are traded with you, Dwolla would reverse the payment or try to claw back the funds from your bank account if you withdrew.  But your counterparty would already have redeemed the MTGUSD code and you'ld be out the money.  Dealing with a reputable counterparty lessens that risk.
5830  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimize your third party dependence through Free Bitfloor ACH on: June 12, 2012, 05:22:46 AM
Is there a cutoff time for ACH withdrawals, where prior to the time they are submitted on the same day?
5831  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Instawallet to btcpak - failed transfer, missing coins on: June 12, 2012, 05:02:15 AM
Posting the wallet address will not open you to fraud, we can do nothing more then track transactions with it.

To be clear, .... DON'T POST YOUR INSTAWALLET URL.
5832  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Instawallet to btcpak - failed transfer, missing coins on: June 12, 2012, 05:01:26 AM
Instawallet only keeps a certain amount of funds available for withdrawal in its operating wallet.  It doesn't know in advance how many bitcoins its users will withdraw and sometimes user activity is heavier than expected and funds need to be added from cold storage.

That's likely what happened - especially if the amount no longer shows in your wallet..  Or perhaps their system had some other technical error.

Not much anyone can do for you until Paymium (Instawallet's operator) gets back to you.

Hindsight is 20/20, but the page does show:

Quote
Not a bank
Instawallet does not aspire to be a Bitcoin bank and as such can only provide a medium level of security. Please do not store more than some spare change here.

If you are storing amounts that would cause you to sweat on a hosted (shared) ewallet that does not require a password even, you might want to reconsider your approach.
5833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happened to Bitcoins being anonymous? on: June 11, 2012, 11:16:26 PM
it and it shows you a map of all the coins being sent in the world.
This is suppose to be all anonymous..

Were you looking at something like- BlockChain.info's view of nodes?
 - http://blockchain.info/nodes-globe

The map data is based on information from the nodes that BlockChain.info's network is connected to.  it doesn't (and cannot) connect to all nodes so that data is no exact.  But if it does connect to your node, and you send out a transaction, it will list yours as the "first relayed by" node.  

If you do not want this, there are are ways to prevent this.  The secure method is to use Tor.  Another method is to simply have your client connect to a node (using -connect=n.n.n.n) that does not track "first relayed by" and relay through that node.

There are methods to protect your privacy as well.

There's also the possibility that from your transactions you can be identified.  That's how Goat got his 400 BTC payment back, after the community helped share information that showed where some coins came from (ended up being GLBSE).

There are attempts to automate this to discover information.  Here's one person using Bitcoin addresses posted in the forum to help link people to payments:
 - http://toolongdidntread.com/bitcoin/coming-soon-an-exposed-bitcoin-network/

So, there are ways that Bitcoin can be used anonymously.  By default, it is pseudonymous and traceable.
5834  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in India on: June 11, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
#1 rank, $55 billion for 2010 (estimate) as stated here:
 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittance#Top_recipient_countries

Well, inbound remittances ended up being $58 billion for 2010.
$64 billion in 2011
and $70 billion expected for 2012.


Quote
The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) on Friday increased the number of remittances a single individual beneficiary can receive in a calendar year to 30 from 12.

The move is expected to boost remittances to the country in a big way.

Indeed, coupled with the depreciation in the rupee and an increase in the number of white-collar migrants to other countries, this will ensure inward remittances log at least $70 billion during 2012,

To be sure, remittance flows into India amounted to $64 billion in 2011, compared with around $58 billion the previous year, according to World Bank’s Migration and Development report, published in April.

 - http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report_rbi-eases-rules-for-inward-remittances-further_1700032
5835  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]Rugatu Q&A launched in beta - using real bitcoins now ! on: June 11, 2012, 09:00:09 PM
Is the verification message sent out as html only or something?

Using my web-based mail service, I only see the text:
 "[Rugatu] - Your email validation link Rugatu"

My webmail does not show it as a link. 

I've had this problem before with another service, and the only way to fix it was for multipart e-mail to include a plain text version as well.
5836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in India on: June 11, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
And one more reason ..

Many (especially in the tech sector) use the English language -- so their access to the software, websites, media, etc is not impeded by a language barrier.

- Millions of Indians live outside India and send money to/from relatives in India.

#1 rank, $55 billion for 2010 (estimate) as stated here:
 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittance#Top_recipient_countries


But India does not even have a Bitcoin exchange of its own! Why not?

TradeHill did have a BTC/INR market but the bid/ask spreads were generally pretty wide.
 - http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/thINR#tgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

Bitcoin-Central.net did offer a BTC/INR exchange as well, but they discontinued it -- not sure if it was because of volume being too low or if it had to do with other reasons.

Paxum accommodates wires to India, and they support account-to-account transfers.  There are quite a few bitcoiners who still have a Paxum account even though Paxum cut off their relationship with Bitcoin exchanges.  It shouldn't be terribly difficult to find someone who would accept bitcoins for a transfer to another Paxum user (from India who then withdraws to their bank in India).

I would expect that at some point the hundi providers (same concept as hawalders, ... or like an unregulated Western Union) will discover Bitcoin and begin to consider it.

You're essentially describing hawala.

The difference is that in the remittance destination country, the roughh equivalent of a "hawalder" can work independently and doesn't need to have any trust relationship with the hawalder receiving funds on the other end.

From another thread:

Where is the incentive to add the extra layer of using Bitcoins at both ends though?

Lower fees for one.

You can only compete with WU and hawala if you can offer the same ease of access - a dealer in virtually every neighbourhood.

I'm wondering how long it will take current hawalders to figure out they can use bitcoin to do deals on their own.  Bitcoins don't yet have much value for the recipient of a remittance transfer but in bulk they do have value to an enterprising hawalder, such as being useful to pay for purchases made abroad or to sell to a local investor perhaps.  

a stand-alone money transmission service isn't going to be profitable in many regions.

That's the difference between Bitcoin and a Western Union.  A WU agent location needs lots of volume to pay for the overhead.   An individual who provides a method to cash out your bitcoins can be profitable on every trade.  It doesn't need to be a full time operation or need to start out as a part time gig even.  There no doubt are individuals with a little extra time and money that will do this exchange "as a favor" to be able to earn the 5% or 10% that doing so will bring.  And then word gets out and in the following month there are two recipients who need this favor.  And then it is four, then eight, and pretty soon this individual now has this sideline business doing cash-out service.

Also, then consider how basic business sense starts to take over.  If I am offering a Bitcoin cash-out service to you, and you turn around and use that cash to pay for your mobile phone refill, then why don't I just start selling to yo mobile phone refills for bitcoins, and earn the profit from that sale as well?

More reading on the subjet:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85174.msg939331#msg939331
 - http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/3651/153
 - http://www.quora.com/Bitcoin/Might-Bitcoin-have-a-success-as-a-hawala-system

Look for Coinapult's SMS Wallet, currently only available in the U.S. and Canada, to be offered in India, or globally even.  That enables Bitcoin transactions for person-to-person trading like how M-Pesa is used in Kenya, with nothing more than a feature phone with SMS text messaging service.
 - http://coinapult.com/sms-wallet

WalletBit just created a WAP (WML) wallet for feature phones that have WAP data connectivity:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85684.0

Here's a Twitter feed on the topic (India):
 - http://twitter.com/bitcoindia
5837  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] WalletBit - Merchant Solutions and Bitcoin Wallet on: June 11, 2012, 08:07:09 PM
Correct, both parties need to sign up at WalletBit with their email as stated in the press release.

You could easily make it so that the wallet has a bitcoin address to receive coins, and so that the user can send to a bitcoin address.  There's really no technical reason for not offering that, right (other than sending to a Bitcoin address requires tediously typing in a valid string of letters and numbers.)?
5838  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Books: Prices Cheaper than Amazon Guaranteed on: June 11, 2012, 07:24:16 PM
The login page sends the username and password in clear text.


If you can find your book available at http://bookmooch.com, I will ship it to you for cheaper than the Amazon price and you will be able to pay in BTC.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept.  

I can register on the site and browse, but I cannot get a book shipped to me until I offer books to others, shipping them out, and gained points from the recipient?

And I cannot just buy points?

So the fee I'm paying is ...   once I have points, I pay for shipping or something?
5839  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much is a mBTC equal to? on: June 11, 2012, 06:41:10 PM
mBTC=millibitcoin=1 thousandth of a bitcoin=0.001BTC=0.00552 USD

uBTC=microbitcoin=1 millionth of a bitcoin=0.000001BTC=0.0000000552 USD

with a little asterisk on that.  "0.00552 USD, at the current BTC/USD exchange rate of $5.52."
5840  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buying a phone call or SMS for Bitcoin? on: June 11, 2012, 06:33:12 PM
I find it awesome to see how so very many questions like this nowadays are being answered, something along the lines of "there's an app for that"!
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