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5921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ ✅ [Blocksquare.io] ➡ [BOUNTY CAMPAIGNS] ➡ Twitter & Telegram on: June 16, 2018, 11:40:33 AM
I wonder how this project is developed? Any news?

I don't see any updates from months. This is a very original idea and I found that this ICO raised 350.000$ and ard cap was only 300K. This is nothing comparing to millions gathered by other Ico's. I just can't find any update or news even from last month. This project was highly ranked on ICO comparison pages. Some of them give the maximal rating. That is why I'm so curious what is the outcome finally.

If anybody knows anything let me know, please.
5922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CoinGecko.com - 360 Degree Cryptocurrency Valuation and Ranking on: June 16, 2018, 10:44:46 AM
Hello guys is it possible to submit an ICO on your site? How can I do that?

I have this same question. Tried to find a way how to add an ICO to your site but I couldn't. Is this possible or you add all ICO's by yourself. Please explain.
5923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀📈[ANN-ICO]ATLANT Real Estate Platform| 📈🚀🌟🌟 on: June 16, 2018, 06:46:38 AM

Finally good news from Atlant team. This still not launch but there is a progress and amount of work put in development is overwhelming. This platform documentation looks promising together with exchange preview. I have to say that exchange looks pretty good. Now let's hope for fast alpha launch. There are few stages to fully working platform alpha, beta and maybe other. So this will be not next week but we are closing to this moment every day. I hope this stop Atlant token from tanking. it would be enough if the token price stays on this level until launch.
5924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: June 16, 2018, 05:47:18 AM
Envion founders are not allowed to use this channel due to an injunction filed by the *cough cough* CEO.  See above for link to founders channel which is quite active regarding the current situation.

Which link are you referring too? This link to Vimeo video? I can't find this, can you please provide or anybody else? Thanks in advance.

ENVION = SCAM
5925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: June 16, 2018, 05:21:20 AM
Be carefull joining amazix bounty, they cheating participant, change the rules without notice, disqualified without any reason, many of their project not paying bounty participant, looks like they eating bounty money

If you spread this accusation then show some proves. I participated in Amazix bounty and never had a problem with payout or management. I had issues and always bounty manager was helpful and supportive. I even contacted Amazix team and issue was resolved at my favor. So stop with this FUD because you are angry on Amazix because they catch you on cheating.
5926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INV] INVESTA - CRYPTO BANKING PLATFORM 🌎 ICO phase ending in 3 days on: June 16, 2018, 04:38:50 AM
From now Investa is in ICO phase 2 which started 16.06.2018 and will be open until 30.06.2018. Last two weeks to fill your bags with INV token.

If you ask me why I'm so enthusiastic about Investa?

I will answer because they have a great product and a lot of experience. I had of course concerns when researched this project and raised many questions. Every time Investa team replied very fast with detailed answers. We discussed all problems and every time I was happy with their explanations. Asked about the team and that they are not known at all, reducing the size of the soft cap, credit cards, atm's, regulations, bounty, ICO page, concurrency, etc. All questions, answers and discussion you can find in this thread. Just read a few pages back. These pieces of information are useful for anybody who wants to invest in this ICO.

There are so many ICO's that this is just hard to choose the best one. But you have to do your best to find this one which gives you big returns. For me this is Investa and I'm really filling well with this investment. I advise everybody to check this project closely. There is not much advertising and bounty already ended, long before ICO end. So there is not much buzz around Investa and that is why I try to spread the word here on BTT to let you know about this opportunity.

There is a big chance that you don't know about Investa at all. Lucky for you there is still 2 weeks to participate in this ICO. Remember only until the end of this month you will be able to buy INV token. After this date, the train leaves the station, with or without you.
5927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]🔥OFFFICIAL PAYERA🔥 - NEW ERA OF THE CRYPTO WORLD ~ 2.250.000 USD on: June 16, 2018, 04:15:16 AM
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5928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]🔥OFFFICIAL PAYERA🔥 - NEW ERA OF THE CRYPTO WORLD ~ 2.250.000 USD on: June 16, 2018, 04:14:37 AM
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5929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY]🔥OFFFICIAL PAYERA🔥 - NEW ERA OF THE CRYPTO WORLD ~ 2.250.000 USD on: June 16, 2018, 04:13:32 AM
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5930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INV] INVESTA - CRYPTO BANKING PLATFORM 🌎 ICO phase ending in 3 days on: June 15, 2018, 10:36:06 AM
There is still this same amount of money displayed on Investa page. This counter didn't move from few days. There is really no progress at all?

Can anybody from the team answer how much is raised already?

I know last days of ICO are always slow. Big investors bought with 25% discount a few days ago. Those last days are more like last minute actions. There is no time to convince people, aggressive advertising and a lot of buzz needed.
I would like to know this too if this is correct amount collected so far, which is displayed on Investa ICO page now. Actually is the same amount of money for some time.

There is no new investments at all? This is just hard to believe. If anybody can provide an answer, would be great.
Yes the past few days have been very slow. on the 16th we are moving to the final Phase of the ICO and price moves up to $1 dollar, but this weekend we have a special fire sale at a disscount. The market hasn't been kind. But that hasn't stopped us from moving forward with the implementation of several products and services.

You can check out the Exchange platform updates in the official Youtube Channel. https://youtu.be/etKC6yAs5nQ
Great update Investa team, this exchange looks amazing with all these tools provided you can easy compete with Trading View. I even think that this is Trading View charts with more tools but maybe I'm wrong. Anyways looks and works great.

Additionally as a bonus in this video is very good Bitcoin price explanation with analysis of past price spikes in comparison to the actual price. Prepare for a bull market!!!

If you think that BTC is dying again, then you have to watch this video.

Exchange looks great and tools provided will satisfy every experienced trader. There is a lot of value in this youtube video. After exchange introduction, the Investa team added a valuable analysis of Bitcoin price with future predictions. They compared past bubbles with this one we were experiencing a few months ago. This is really good stuff guys. I advise watching this presentation from beginning to the end because every minute of this video is like a goldmine of knowledge about Bitcoin price movement and predictions.

Check their products, roadmap and decide if Investa is a good ICO, so simple is that. Don't miss this opportunity. Only 2 days left to buy with the bonus!!! Next round of Investa ICO you will have to pay the full price. This is the last time to fill bags with still cheap INV token. Check their page and register an account to participate. In my opinion, Investa is one of best ICO's in this month.
5931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][INV] INVESTA - CRYPTO BANKING PLATFORM 🌎 ICO phase ending in 3 days on: June 14, 2018, 04:50:52 PM
There is still this same amount of money displayed on Investa page. This counter didn't move from few days. There is really no progress at all?

Can anybody from the team answer how much is raised already?

I know last days of ICO are always slow. Big investors bought with 25% discount a few days ago. Those last days are more like last minute actions. There is no time to convince people, aggressive advertising and a lot of buzz needed.

I would like to know this too if this is correct amount collected so far, which is displayed on Investa ICO page now. Actually is the same amount of money for some time.

There is no new investments at all? This is just hard to believe. If anybody can provide an answer, would be great.
5932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🚀📈[ANN-ICO]ATLANT Real Estate Platform| 📈🚀🌟🌟 on: June 14, 2018, 04:44:30 PM
This thread is becoming a joke lol whether its true that their CTO is in jail because of whatever reason and the team is a scam just as some claim then I guess that CTO deserves to be there rubbing his bar. To me, I'd like to see this crypto version of AirBNB to be realized.  I hold some of these tokens which is why I want this to have at least a gradual success.
I think we all agree that the idea behind this project to tokenize real estate market and to be the first AirBnB on the blockchain speaks to me even now.
Are they able to do this? This is the real question.

From what I know this is open source and everything is easily available on Github. Bitcointalk is so big and there so many investors and bounty hunters from this community. We need one who will look into this code and tell us what this is and how far they are with development. Is this garbage or worth something? I think there should be somebody willing and able to do.

I don't want to talk any more about price predictions because I don't think we will see any positive movements soon. Short spikes and deeper deeps this looks to me as a killer bearish pattern confirmed from months. What to talk about? You can't win with facts.
let's wait for platform launch. team still paying to bounty hunters. if they keep their words with bounty question..
That would be a good achievement and it will definitely help the price of ATL token to  increase.
Without the platform, everything we hear is just a mere speculation and in overall the market is not good so it's hard for ATL to rise.

There is still a problem with regulations in different countries. I just can't figure it out how such a property can be legally tokenized online.
Who will be the owner if I buy 51% of tokens available? I have hundreds of other questions and can't find the answer in Atlant white paper.
If they only will rent properties then this will be a lot easier but buying and selling involve a lot of paperwork which can't be done online. I hope not but this could be too soon for such a project. I don't think any country is prepared for this and needed regulations don't exist yet. Everybody is excited and talking about the platform launch but I don't think this is the key to Atlant success.

You are absolutely right in your questions. But usually the legislation of the countries does not keep up with the technologies. So it was with the advent of the first cars.
Tokenization of real estate and assets is an indispensable process.
Nadejus, Atlant will be a real example of tokenization.

Anybody who bought a property in his life knows how much documents and work this is. Hard to imagine that with few clicks you will be able to sell or rent your property. This isn't possible and this will be not few clicks. I keep reading Atlant white paper and every time I read, I have a lot of questions and concerns.

Atlant says that they will make money because they cut off the middleman and this will bring significant 25% cost reduction. On the next page, they are introducing an army of people which will be needed for this paperwork. Not only this but managing services, arbiters, senior arbiters, lawyers, companies for digital signing and gathering all these documents. Not only those people don't exist yet and are not hired but they all have to deal with something new, which they first have to learn. This takes time of course and a lot of money.

Everybody is focusing on the platform launch and forgets that there are many more components and few of them much more important for this project. All pieces are needed together for Atlant to work and be useful. I just can't imagine that we will see first property tokenized and sold sooner as in 2 years from now. If you think realistic how much work has to be done to be able to launch Atlant platform then this is the only outcome.
Real Estate is put into SPV first. Technically not the property is tokenized, but the company owning the property. That's how the business model becomes viable even for 2018. You might want to reread the white paper - https://atlant.io/assets/documents/en/Atlant_WP_publish.pdf

Believe me, I have read a few times. I have to admit that this white paper is professional and explains almost everything. One of best white papers I have seen. Anyways I have doubts and that is why I ask my question and share my point of view to hear your feedback and opinions.

I see that first, tokenized property has to be worth more as 20.000.000$ which is again a concern for me. This is like closing doors for the rest of the market under 20 million. I understand that later they will let smaller properties to be listed but I don't understand why not let everything t be tokenized on the Atlant platform.

Why not start only with rental first to launch the application and stop Atlant token price from epic fall? Finally why they lied to us with their first roadmap and that app will be launched 3 months ago? This is obvious that they knew from the start that this will be impossible to deliver the application at scheduled in roadmap time.

I keep repeating this and will say again. Transparency is the key to success, especially blockchain startups.
5933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ on: June 14, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
Thank you very much for the fast answer. I keep reading your white paper.

In meantime, I begin to wonder what will happen when in few months somebody builds better antivirus? This is possible and would happen.
What if one of your very big and reach concurrence companies shows up with a groundbreaking new antivirus product? Even if they do not implement blockchain still they will be fighting for the same market share.

I ask myself if blockchain implementation is really needed in Romad project?

Have you studied the competitive analysis section of the document? We already have 60+ classic AVs to compete against and 30+ next-gens to compete against. Are we afraid of one more competitor? Shortly, no.

The reason for this is highlighted here: https://www.digitalimmunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/EMA-NGES-2017-RR.pdf, see the graph on page 6. This is why there are almost no any ICO-based competitors for us.

The blockchain is needed because of the distribution model that ROMAD uses. NGAV technology + distribution model is the key to success. And the blockchain is the key to the distribution model. For more details refer to the "The blockchain technology usage" section of the wp v.2.4.

I have but I have to admit that this is very technical and you need a degree in computer science to fully understand this white paper. That is why I'm asking a straightforward question easily understandable for everyone.

Thank you for this explanation and link to this document. This is really something groundbreaking and that is why I want to be sure if this will work and what with concurrency because is huge. I hope these predictions gathered in this document are accurate. I think we have to trust you on that because there is no way to check this information.
5934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡ on: June 14, 2018, 04:09:46 PM
Wait a second here,

Mr. Jamal, why do you ruin such a fantastic project.. You are kinda busy with calling the entire Tokenpay a scam.. But Mr. Derek Capo it's doubts about you are not unfair.. according to this topic for example (there are much more);
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3149900.10

Many more of those topics are around here anywhere.. It's actually very low of yourself to abuse your power by creating this thread on first instance and now you changed the entire topic with only bullshit... for all i know you just faked those skype conversations.. you're not trustworthy mate... You should empty this topic thread and set it back to what was in it ...

Stop with your actions and stop with bullshitting..

Even your own profile says you can't be trusted..



And a lot more can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=721115 an entire list that is red, you go boy...

I read this thread and now I'm confused because I thought that only translations bounty and the management fee was not paid. Now I see, nothing was paid. If they don't pay a dime I don't understand why is so quiet?

Lately, Envion has problems because of lawsuits and bounty payments are on hold. Already there is 10 pages more each day in bounty thread and people join groups and talk how to act further together against Envion.

I don't see bounty hunters screaming here "Tokenpay scammers" or unite to fight for payout. Only Jamal tries to make some noise but he has so much red paint in account together with a countless scam and bad bounty management accusations, that I'm not convinced at all to trust him.

Jamal bought large chunk if not all Tokenpay coins from bounty hunters before bounty distribution. Am I right?
That is why Tokenpay accused him of scam and why bounty hunters don't complain. Because most of them get paid from Jamal and now only he is losing a lot of money. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Actually I also don't have receive tokenpay bounty reward, we already submit claim form and post our tpay address in our bitcointalk profile, I think because of bounty hunter direct asking about bounty in official telegram channel, I saw that

Tokenpay team said that jamalaezaz scam
Jamalaezaz told us tokenpay scam and don't paid bounty reward

so actually I don't know which one is true, I only know that my tpay wallet (install more than 3 month) still don't have any tokens

If you don't know who is true then read the first post of this thread.. I have posted proofs . I did not only bullish about tokenpay team. but tokenpay team only said that jamal Scam. but they don't have any proof of that which means they are the real scammers.

Yeah, if you don't know who speaks the truth. Hell, I do not even trust a word you're saying. According to my starting post about you, who should trust you?!
Allow me to make some amendments.
Firstly, if the project is fantastic, then this is thanks to bounty hunters. Secondly, the fucked Derek Capo is a real rascal and a thief, because he had to pay all those who honestly worked. I'm not interested in Jamal's reputation, because I have eyes and I read Jamal's evidence, and your fucked Derek does not have any evidence.


The best way to kill bullshit is not even responding to it. So Derek Capo is entirely right on this one. If you are not interested in Jamal's history you are an idiot. As I see and read the entire conversation Derek has suspicion that he scammed people, as Derek said he wants to pay the people themselve and I don't read in the conversation he ever delivered a spreadsheet with tokenpay wallet(s) of the helpers.. The only thing that has been screenshotted is the negativity of Derek Capo.. But the rest of the conversation is not visible.. So first things first post a complete chat-history.. instead of this half-baked bullshit.
In short, or we will get our earned, or we will tell all people that Derek and his team are scammers. This fucking project will be destroyed.

So in short, you are one of the people who got scammed? If yes, on what do you base that? As far as I could see maybe Jamal is even constructing this scam and runs away with the money and uses the words of Derek Capo in his benefit. Nobody can say if the posted screenshots are complete.. edited.. or real..
I am ready to give my skype login details to any trusted person to check and verify these chats with Derek capo.. I only skipped the unnecessary chatting.. 

Well, start a Teamviewer session and let me check.. I do not need any login details. But yeah, you can fake a Skype account as well.. so not sure how trustworthy that is..
tokenpay is a gathering of greedy people no repayment
I was not appreciated by their team when I asked my gift on twitter they blocked my twitter.

This case is complicated. First of all, I don't understand why any project hires member with a reputation like Jamal has for a bounty management. This is like asking for trouble or they did it on purpose. Tokenpay hired Jamal because it is easy to accuse him of scam because of his bad reputation. I don't know if this is the case but looks like. I have few questions to better understand this situation.

Why such a big project like Tokenpay hire member with such a bad reputation?
Why bounty hunters join such a bounty campaign managed by an untrusted member?
Why there is no other scam thread started by united bounty hunters against Tokenpay?
Why didn't they pay to bounty hunters if Jamal is a scammer? What is the exact explanation?
Why bounty hunters don't look for help by BTT staff or established high rank members?
5935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Pulsar [PLSR] [The Crypto Collectibles] on: June 14, 2018, 03:49:53 PM
Not much is happening here almost 2 weeks from my last post and there is only one answer from a random member and not from the team or even OP. I hope this isn't a fall start. I hope there will be some updates and we will see active team and development.
5936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ▉ANN▉ MTNC ▉▉▉▉░ Masternodecoin ░▉▉▉ Multiple Privacy Center Platform on: June 14, 2018, 11:08:27 AM
does it twitter bounty for third airdrop was only a myth?

Airdrop number 3 was fully paid to all participants. There will be airdrop number 4 now. We are waiting for dev to develop new feature O.K Bounty which can help us with this new airdrop round distribution. No myths my friend Masternodecoin is for real.
5937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 27th November on: June 14, 2018, 11:05:20 AM
as I understand, the manager is not in touch. or rather, he does not answer questions. What is the reason for this? Why such silence?

Exactly, there was announcement 07.06 that next week distribution date will be published. Today is 14.06 and there is no update from the team or bounty manager.

Bounty thread - nothing, Telegram - silence. What is Hdac? When distribution?
This week is not over yet. They have said that the exact distribution date would be announced this week(11.06-17.06), so we should wait three more days.

Maybe you are right. I saw the date when the announcement was posted and that was 07.06 so I assumed that today 14.06 we should get information about the bounty distribution. Of course, there is no problem to wait. As for now, I don't have complaints about how Hdac communicates with us, despite bounty distribution delays.
5938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][PERA] PAYERA - NEW ERA OF THE CRYPTO WORLD on: June 14, 2018, 12:59:56 AM
The marketing team represents PAYERA at the Blockchain International Show in London.  Watch this video about their time in the event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5uJw9krfUk

This is good that they are doing presentations on big blockchain events around the world. Transparency and marketing is the key to successful ICO in this bad market conditions. This is the worst time from 3 years to start an ICO. Sonner only white papers were funded with millions. Today people are much more careful with their investments after so many scams. There is an intelligent and original approach needed to be different and easy recognizable between tens of new ICO's started every day.
5939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure on: June 14, 2018, 12:49:11 AM
This video you can see lies https://vimeo.com/272591256

As an example

go to 1:00
laurent asks: "Maikel, are there tokens sold?"
Maikel answer: "Yes, there a few tokens sold"

There he told the truth for 100% when he said "Yes"
He is 100% lying that he says "sold a few tokens"

Before he said the word "Yes". his eyes moved to the upper left.
That corner means "Remembered images" and means that he will give an honest answer

When he said "few tokens sold" his eyes moved to the right.
That corner means "construct" That you are going to think of something that has not happened,
His voice also changed in tone. That is also an indication  that he is lying.


6:20 and beyond

6:20 he begins to stutter and moves weird with his hands. This is also a sign of lies.
6:28 maikel touches his ear. this is also an indication that he is telling something that is not true.
6.38 see maikel his lips and tongue also an indication for lies
6:39 he squeezes his lips together. also an indication for lies
6:41 maikel put his tongue out with his lips closed. this is also an indication that he is lying

These are all techniques that the FBI also uses because body language does not lie.


That's actually an interesting observation. Laurent behaves very confidently, while I cannot tell same about Michael...
Need to review this video one more time. Thanks! Cool



Laurent is a more practiced lair ,, he does it all the time in the telegram channel .. until something comes up he can not talk his way around without exposing himself to more litigation then he just ignores the question and disappears.



I have only posted a piece of the video because it takes a lot of time to screen but you can find many more signals.
Laurent also plays the game. I see him every 3 times talking where he does not completely tell the truth.

Hillarious because they are laying all the time from start. There is no need to watch every eye or lip move. Obvious scam on many levels. Founders, CEO all scammers. They sell us updates about equipment shipments, auditors and there was no sign of a lie. They are obvious scammers and the court will punish both sides founders and the CEO because they are all guilty of fraud.
5940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Hdac - Blockchain-based IoT contracts by Hyundai. 600k$ FIX POOL 90BTC on: June 14, 2018, 12:25:26 AM
When will distribution start? There should be an announcement this week. There is nothing on all channels. Telegram and ann thread not updated from the last update. I hope there is no problem and distribution will start soon as promised.
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