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5941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: January 13, 2023, 01:13:31 AM
What people should also not forget is that this tournament will be held in Germany. A considerable boost for German football, which has been underperforming in the national tournaments for years. World Cup 2018 and World Cup 2022 were already the end of the story for this team in the group stage. They are building a new team, possibly with great success already in the summer of 2024. They still have a lot of good players. I also have my doubts about the national coach. But does that mean Germany doesn't have to play matches to qualify? Isn't there a lot of competition rhythm missing then? They would have qualified for this tournament anyway, but then you have at least a few more matches. Or do they participate in the group and their results are not included in the final score?

I don't think that hosting the tournament is going to have a big impact on the performance of the national team. Recently Qatar hosted the 2022 FIFA World Cup and were handed out large defeats in each of their group matches. Germany is one of the top teams consisting of a large number of experienced players, and they are comfortable paying anywhere around the world. I am not denying the fact that they may get home advantage in 2024. Right now they need to rebuild their team, after the humiliating performance at FIFA 2022 (failed to qualify for the round of 16).

The only advantage that Germany will have in this UEFA Euro 2024 will be their fans because the tournament will be hosted in their country. But I don't think there will be any advantage for German football because it is already at high level. German Bundesliga belongs to the best five European football leagues. Besides, Germany already hosted FIFA World Cup in 2006 so they have experience in hosting tournaments like this.

I have many doubts about the Germany that we saw in Qatar, because they had a good team, what I did not like is that Tony Kross was not there and it was essential to do it, I think that Muller lacked more communication with his players, also I did not see action from Gotze, will they play the same level of players that they brought to Qatar? I'm very curious, German football is quite strong, they have many high caliber players and in the Budesliga you can see that they have an impressive level, I don't know if they will continue with the same coach, but they must do much better, because it is something that that country needs, plus Germany has a fairly strong and fast-paced football.
5942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto Casino on: January 13, 2023, 12:15:29 AM
You can do more than gamble there you know, you can also make money on their tokens.

So are we talking about the casino which has its own tokens like Fun token or Owl token?

Well, if this is the subject then I must say that these casinos have an added advantage as you can invest in these casinos and have an opportunity to earn passive income by just holding them. As the casino grows, the prices of these token will rise too and hence gamblers can earn money only by holding the gambling site token.


What other advantage? You're investing your money at risk, so I wouldn't call it an advantage because you might as well invest it in more reliable investment assets.

Many gamblers visit casinos just to get a shot of the happiness hormone. And in my opinion these people are the majority.
With gambling as well as investment on gambling sites we're taking risks. To the risks we take, we'll be rewarded. In one way it is an advantage, because using the native token lets us increase the holding. We don't know how effective is the market of the respective token. It is a gamble for the futures.
Well, everything is a risk, in this life everything that happens we must take risks, obviously in a casino, whenever we enter to play we are already assuming a risk, the fact that it is in crypto is something that we cannot deny that the money in great scale is handled much easier, and yes, if we put in context and a physical casino and a crypto casino for me represent the same thing, only that the crypto casino is digital and does not have other distractions like in physical casinos and traditional as we know them, but the risk that is assumed can be minimized by assuming that the money that we are willing to lose must be well managed.
5943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports Spread Betting VS Fixed Odds Betting on: January 12, 2023, 09:12:13 PM
Well, in my personal opinion I have always made many bets but in a traditional way, what OP talks about in the first place is that due to the question of points that they give on a platform I have never understood it well, however it is very famous and Most people like to bet a lot if they understand it, but the traditional for me is the best.

When it comes to money, I think that and I am also very traditional, I like what is safe, and since many people will always trust systems that are safe, and despite the fact that the other way of betting is also safe, I do not trust myself very much, perhaps because the little interaction I've had.

5944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: January 12, 2023, 08:43:31 PM
For the sake of interest, I bought lotteries several times, but this is boring, I have never won, and only lost money, it was no avail. There are those who are constantly playing with the hope of winning Jack Pot, but it looks like an illusion, because there are very few winners and, to be honest, I even doubt that the choice of the winner will without the intervention of the organizers of this lottery. Therefore, I do not see the point of participating in lotteries.
Lottery is not something you buy tickets so you could win, it is something you buy tickets so you are not missing out. Why? Well if you have just one ticket per draw, that means you at least have a chance and it is a much much bigger chance than zero, the difference between 1 ticket and 100 tickets is smaller than having zero or one.

I know that it is not going to end up being the great thing that we all hope for and we may win, I know we will lose 99.99999% of the time, but at least you got a ticket. That is why many buy tickets, even if just one, because it would give you a chance that you could end up with winning something much better in the long run, a possibility.
In statistical terms, it is very possible that those people who manage to play a lot in the lottery and above all buy many tickets, their probability of winning increases, but it is not enough to guarantee that they can win, other factors must be taken into account that can be predictable in a possible raffle event, and this is associated with the luck factor, or what some prefer to call the randomness factor and that buying more tickets totally decreases the randomness factor, it is something that is not denied but never it will be a sure thing, because there are many who can buy 1 ticket and that is the winning ticket.
5945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's on! 2024 US Presidential Election Biden+Harris Vs Trump Bitcoin betting.... on: January 12, 2023, 06:32:42 PM
Regarding how politics is in the USA, I think that everything will revolve around Biden and Trump, I don't see another option that is more viable, also from what I have seen of Terrump he is in very red numbers and that is something that subtracts many points from him When it comes to considering a presidency, upon reaching the presidency I think that many things would get worse, but I have seen a certain part of the USA that is very biased towards Trump's ideas, I really do not understand it, although there is a something very different from how politics is handled in South America, I see similar things, a lot of radicalization in terms of a political ideology and that for me is a mistake, when it falls into ideologies it is that things do not look good for the future.
5946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia on: January 12, 2023, 05:55:55 PM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

Yes, that would be great to see and I think it's somehow safe to assume that there will be some spicy words that will go in the air because of their heat. Anyway, as far as I know, there was no rivalry before and it was Ryan Garcia that started this as he's calling Davis to fight him but the latter is not interested as he's not that known before. Garcia kept on provoking Davis which resulted to this bout, I hope Ryan Garcia knows what he is up to and that he can back his words because he will be embarrassed for sure if it turns out that he's biting more than what he can chew.

I think Garcia wants to do everything he can to get attention so that they can count him for a lot of things, not just for this fight, but for the next ones that are coming up, if we take into account, but because of everything he's said García means that he is willing to go for everything in each of his fights, in terms of this we can say that he does not have much respect for Davis, and considering that Davis is a boxer who is something more serious, he will have to silence him. Anyway, sometimes this boxing thing lends itself to many things, I remember that one day that happened to Oscar de la Hoya, and it was with Mayweather and the Mexican beat him.

Paulie Malignaggi questions Ryan Garcia’s “mentality” for Gervonta Davis fight



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By Huck Allen: Paulie Malignaggi isn’t quite sure about Ryan Garcia’s mentality going into what could be a grueling fight where he’d need to get in the trenches to defeat Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis in their proposed fight in April. Malignaggi says he’s only seen the 24-year-old Ryan (23-0, 19 KOs) in a tough fight once in which he had to get up off the deck to defeat Luke Campbell in 2021, but then after that, he “disappeared,” which suggests that he was frightened by the experience and didn’t want to risk having that happen again. Malignaggi feels that Tank (28-0, 26 KOs) is more willing to get in the trenches in a tough fight in which he’s hurt than Ryan, who seems to be all over the place outside of the ring.


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/paulie-malignaggi-questions-ryan-garcias-mentality-for-gervonta-davis-fight/
5947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Arabia League (All Competitions) Predictions, Odds and Discussions ⚽ on: January 12, 2023, 05:28:06 PM
The truth is that I have not been very interested in football that is from Saudi Arabia in the past, I think it is a different football, but I cannot deny that they have improved a lot, just like in African FOOTBALL I saw it as more interesting, without However, it cannot be denied that the arrival of CR7 to that football is something that attracts attention, and now I am interested in how they play, in fact when they beat Argentina in the Qatar World Cup, they captured all my attention and that was something who once told me that this type of football is growing by leaps and bounds, and I hope that football and the Arab league will have a lot of relevance.
5948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. on: January 12, 2023, 04:21:00 PM
The idea is to just disrupt the market by getting what is not allowed in other places. I mean we had erotic cam websites for a long time and they streamed and that caused a little bit of difference. But, when onlyfans started people acted as if that's normal, which I think it's normal but to imagine onlyfans as normal yet some stream websites as not normal? That's weird.

So, I guess there will eventually one website where it is allowed to do ANYTHING as long as it's fine by law, like not "watch me steal money live!" type of deal of course lol, but anything legal will be allowed and it will grow to be much much bigger than twitch one day, I am 100% sure of it.
That's one big truth.

When those activities before we're like the hidden secrets of many users and then a huge company puts up the actual place where everyone who has that darkest secrets meet there and get paid for those fancy activities that they've been wanting to do and monetize.

The same will surely be made for gambling, this type of action from Twitch is just like complying to whatever issue has brought to them.

Viewers won't be gone and they know it but the sudden drop of their activity will push them to modify the ruling or they should look at their own platform every now and then, because many of them are still there, free.
And it seems that later, Twitch will change its rules little by little to re-attract the interest of its users and will not violate government regulations. And Twitch may negotiate again with the government regarding this matter because the regulations from the government have clearly reduced their income. And Twitch is still seeing what it would be like if they still had the same rules in place today so they can later apply to change the rules. So while Twitch is still waiting, the streamers are looking for other places to still interact with their followers and keep their videos broadcast to the public.

The only way that a government can give in is that they give them a part of the money that comes to them as a company, that's all, what happens is that they didn't know how to handle the situation, but as companies or something similar is a lie, With what happened, they won't be able to recover those clients, that's something we all know, or at least it's not impossible, but it's very difficult for them to materialize, if I'm in a place and then they fire me because they preferred to stop even more, Governor, That is not reliable for me, because the activity I do is legal and does not go against any government or something similar, so in view of all that I would not return, and I think it is very possible that some sites think like me.
5949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde on: January 12, 2023, 02:02:18 PM
Beterbiev is older anyways, so the strength and reflexes aren't the same as the previous years. 

Yarde's camp needs to work on this one. If they can find the best strategy to take this little advantage against Beterbiev, then he might have to get an opportunity to take down his opponent.
Definitely, if they can find some loophole on Beterviev then good, take that advantage, maybe the way he throw his punch or his defensive stance that they can counter and who knows, maybe he can pull an upset.

Yarde needs to be in his best form during this fight if he wants to handle Beterbiev. Yarde needs to have stamina enough to last for a 12-round fight because I believe the strategy is to move and fight smart in order to avoid getting hit by Beterbiev. Beterbiev is now a little slower with less strength so I guess Yarde will try to outbox, and throw counters, and if cornered he needs to hold and use his strength to avoid a close-quarter fight. 

I am rooting for Beterbiev to win so I hope that he still has enough to survive a possible early lead from Yarde who's also a big puncher. Yarde will probably get tired of running in the late rounds and Beterbiev will go for the KO.

Yes, he should bring his gas tank in this fight, because Beterviev is known to have not just the punching power, but also to carry the fight if it goes to distance. But if we look at Yarde's physical and body composition, he has a lot of muscle and this could affect him in the later round if he don't know how to preserve his energy. If he doesn't want to do it, then they will have to find a way for him to breath and have a deep lung. So it's either for Yarde to go for broke early because it will be very dis-advantageous for him, as the longer it gets, the more he will gets tired. So it's going to be very hard fight and what is the perfect strategy for him.

If he will be engaged to a toe-to-toe exchange of punches, then he needed to work well with his stamina. If he survives with that encounter, the next few rounds will be tough for him.

like what you mentioned, Beterviev is not just a heavy puncher but also capable to stand till the last round,
and Yarde needs to work on it to make sure that he also has that stamina to fight, else, Beterviev will take
this fight from him.

Dangerous for Yarde to stand toe to toe and exchange with Beterviev, and I don't think he will do that. Look at Butler when he face Inoue, we thought that he will go after Inoue in first couple of round but he folded.

So I think Yarde is smart to do that, he will really need to have a lot of stamina and hopefully he will not be caught with Beterviev power punches. Otherwise it will be over and this fight is not going to distance. Just probably maintain his distance and play defense throughout the fight, although this is also very hard to do as well.
Yes, in fact all the other boxing fotos I've seen don't say it directly, but they see Yarde as a loser, of course Yarde is a boxer who can show many weaknesses, and a boxer's technique is what he should hold on to. , and above all to his plan, if he does not have a good plan he can hardly work with respect to speed, resistance, moment in which he must save strength, all of this must stick with his technique as the only option, the case of Beterbiev is different, I think he has a better alignment and more confidence, in fact he has shown that and it is possible that they can generate more things or more surprises, but not everything is written, for now they can generate a surprise in the case of Yrde that nobody expects .

Artur Beterbiev Not Bothered About Being on Yarde’s Home Turf



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Artur Beterbiev apparently could care less about having home court advantage.

The WBC, WBO, and IBF light heavyweight champion from Russia will face contender Anthony Yarde on Jan. 28 in Yarde’s hometown of London at Wembley Arena.

When asked, in a recent interview, if he is at all concerned about fighting in Yarde’s own backyard, Beterbiev demurred.

“I’m not focused on the city,” Beterbiev told BT Sport. “I’m not like this person [who is obsessed with location]: London, New York, Moscow, I’m not focused on city. I’m more focused on opponent."

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/artur-beterbiev-not-bothered-about-being-on-yardes-home-turf--171709
5950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: January 12, 2023, 01:12:15 PM
I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.

I think when it comes to data collection, analysis, and comparison of every player, if AI has all the access to the data of each team and player, I believe the AI will come up with a better analogy than a veteran analyst.  AI removes emotions that somehow affect a person's view since favoritism vague a person's decision. So personally, I think AI is different from newsletters because it will come up with a better version of analogy and prediction.
AI have entered each and every sector. Now this isn't big to discuss. The usage of AI into gambling industry doesn't look to be more interesting, because it does the prediction based on the data available along with the past results comparison. I don't know whether it'll have the ability to watch the match scenario and predict the outcome according to the situation.
Everyone has been talking about Chagpt, and as many have said, the AI only has information up to the year 2021, and it cannot make predictions, of course I don't know what the true scope of the AI will be, that it can make predictions to do but it can't do them due to its programming for now, but it is obvious that it can solve many statistics and probabilities quickly, and that is a pretty strong tool when it comes to requesting any information that can be calculated in a short time, when in a way Manual and with the degree of knowledge of some books, it can take a reasonable time. Later, it may be that premium services of that chatgpt or more AI will come out, which can offer it as an additional service.
5951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone making 4 or 5 digits (USD) monthly from Crypto Sports betting? on: January 12, 2023, 12:07:40 PM
That's really hard to achieve, because even with sports betting there is need of luck. At times we believe cent percent and go with the odds, but the underdog wins causing big loss. Closer prediction can be made and it is a must to watch the match throughout to minimize the loss through live betting if our prediction haven't won.

With sports betting there is always the need for data collection with which close prediction can be made. If not we need to go with high bet amount on lower odds. For @1.1 and the bet value need to be $1000 to earn $100 which is high risk betting.

I cannot deny, with sports betting, luck can have a lot of influence, and that is something that influenced a lot, at least in the World Cup in Qatar, teams that I did not think were going to lose against other teams that did not have much relevance did. , and that is something that many were left out of reach due to their high bets with very large amounts, because they were supposed to be safe matches, so eventually there is nothing safe in terms of sports betting, a luck factor will always influence, both here in football as in any sport, except that sports betting is greatly influenced by the knowledge of the person and that is something for which you can feel more secure.
5952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 12, 2023, 03:33:38 AM

I think Manchester United also want to win the trophy, but there is a difficult obstacle in front of them.  They will have to eliminate Spanish giant Barcelona first.  Their performance in the Premier League has been on the rise and if they continue like this, they have a chance to knock out Barcelona.  If they beat Barcelona, ??they could go all the way to the final.
Manchester United's chances of getting the Europa League trophy this season are open, it's just that the opponent they will face now is Barcelona, which we know is one of the tough teams and also the favorites to win the title in the Europa League this season. That is their toughest challenge in this play-off round. Also if they are able to get through this play-off round perfectly, the hurdles are still in front of them, because some of the big teams are also here after failing to qualify from the Champions League.

In the Europa league their are top teams that are competiting,  and all this teams they are still in good form.  It is still early to tell if Manchester United will win the Europa League Because their are other big teams in the league that are fighting. Manchester United, Barcelona, any of this team have chances of winning the europa league.  The Europa is going to be tough and interesting because of teams that are competing to win the trophy.
Manchester United are looking very promising. All the players in the team are performing brilliantly. After the World Cup, everyone is very focused.

I don't have much faith in Manchester United, they may win some games, but for my biggest mistake of that club is the technical director, and it's not just because of what he did to CR7, that's the least of it, what The more he does things wrong and blame another player or players, for me such an arrogant person should not be in a team, only his energy makes things go wrong, if Manchester United change coach, I believe that things can occur in the best way. For me Manchester has a great treasure in terms of its players, but things really go wrong, and it's not their fault, maybe with defeats they mature more, but being in the Europa League for so long is a failure for a club of this category.


Barcelona and Manchester United have good performance in domestic league and consistency at the winning trend except Barcelona held draw by Espanyol at first match after FIFA World Cup 2022. Current performance from Manchester United have quite well and win all matches after World Cup.

I don't have ideas about which one possibility qualifier to next round in UEFA European League, however between Barcelona or Manchester United have eliminated at playoff round.  Nowadays away goals nit important thing after UEFA removed all rule about advantage of away goals.
Both teams have been in good form so far in their respective leagues, but that's just something that might be different when they meet in the playoffs. I tend to think Barcelona have something to stand for in this playoff game, but as far as I've seen it I think Manchester United have also improved since the arrival of Ten Hag.

It is difficult to predict who will qualify for the round of 16 because both of them have the opportunity to win matches in 2 meetings. Each of them has to take advantage of the home advantage, so you don't really know who will win a ticket to the round of 16.

I don't really think like that, I think quite the opposite, for me what Ten Hag has done the most is hurt Manchester United, but I honestly think that if they fire Ten Hag and hire someone else, who saea, that team will start to resurface, for me Ten Hag is a technical director who is quite rude, apart from that he is very radical, if he did not put CR7 in the games knowing that he is a star he speaks very badly as a person, then it is impossible for me, having stars, to leave them in Banking is something that, at least for me, doesn't fit in my head, so if he does that, he's capable of doing anything.

‘Irritated’ Liverpool and Man Utd ‘dismiss’ Prem star but Arsenal join transfer fight after ‘verbal offer’



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Liverpool and Manchester United reportedly grew ‘irritated’ in their pursuit of Leandro Trossard but their rivals remain in the fight for the Brighton star.

Trossard has shone for the Seagulls since joining them following their promotion to the Premier League.

The Belgium international came into his own at the start of this season as he has seven goals and two assists in 16 Premier League outings this term.

Source: https://www.football365.com/news/irritated-liverpool-man-utd-dismiss-prem-star-arsenal-join-transfer-fight-verbal-offer
5953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Distortion Pattern on: January 12, 2023, 03:06:40 AM
I think it happens to many people when they first start gambling.
But after playing for some time, they started to lose and the number of losses was getting bigger and frustrated them.
They try to use bigger funds but the result is always the same, namely defeat, making them desperate because they cannot win like before.
And in the end, they will only regret it because they have lost a lot of money gambling.
This is because there's no guarantee you will get huge multipliers or jackpot even though you're playing it a whole day. Anyone should have a good self control in order to prevent this kind happen. Also there's many casinos already has self exclusion feature which will help an addict to stop gamble.

I also think it's better to play sports rather than slots because you can't predict the result in slots.
Hopefully, the self-exclusion feature really helps an addict to stop gambling but I'm still unsure about that feature because it's very difficult for a gambling addict to realize he is a gambling addict.
Unless he has really rough days and it gets to a point where he really needs to quit gambling, only then will he come to terms with what he has done and what he did wrong.
And before that happens, we really have to have good self-control when playing gambling so that nothing bad will happen to us.
We must be able to learn from the experiences of others who have experienced many defeats.

Well, there are many players who have their own way of playing and have many techniques that are difficult to tell them to change, because it is difficult to make them change their tricks and things that they have learned as they have had their own experiences, however some may have that There are patterns to play and win, but it is very difficult, many people play in different ways. In my case, when I see the way some players play and I see that I can optimize my way of playing, I get results that are more efficient than mine. Well, I simply adopt them for myself and begin to apply them, but I don't think that depends on each player.
5954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 12, 2023, 02:22:07 AM

And my personal assumptions is that, US, being the world power probably does not want their territories to be over populated with immigrants, this could be the reason for the so strict requirements and documentation process to enter the country.

Your assumption may not be false but they have to be ready for more people that will troop in into the state in guise of coming to watch the next world cup. USA is a cherish country desirable by many to live in, so they have to expect that to happen. Among the three countries hosting the game, USA is hosting more of the games and that means more immigration of people to USA than Mexico and Canada.
I recently saw an announcement that an important figure in the country said that he was going to impose that anyone who enters the USA illegally will be punished by taking him out of the country and beating him for 5 years, I know that each country has its rules and that is respected, but the USA has also given many freedoms to immigrants, it is also the same government that promotes the American dream, and those who enter that way is not a good thing, the American dream does not exist, the people who enter to work are really well exploited and the fact of working at least 16 hours in a row is not life, what they do is sleep little and work from Sunday to Sunday in what they can, however in the World Cup that is being organized they want to do it in the best way , there won't be much input control for some, this will be a bit difficult for the US to control.

5955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez on: January 12, 2023, 01:29:33 AM
Well there is a new name popping around recently that Canelo is interested on fighting British contender John Ryder.

For sure it won't sit well on the winner of this fight, because we wanted if David Benavidez wins here, to fight Canelo. So it's a surprised if indeed Canelo will skip Bivol in his comeback fight and step aside the winner here and fight John Ryder.

I wouldn't be surprised though as we all know that Canelo is recovering from his injuries so he might as well take a light opponent first before taking either the winner of this fight or again avenge his defeat to Bivol.
For me, Canelo is really picking daisies and rose petals, first of all he wants to have a lot of attention, that's something obvious, just with what he did in the World Cup with Messi, I realized that what he wants is to have a lot of fame, but sometimes it seems to me something infallible what he does and that is not the right way, perhaps that is why 'Bivol does not want to give him a rematch because what Bivol wants is something more serious, he wants titles, he wants to promote, and obviously with Canelo he will only have a rematch , it will not give him more, on the contrary if Bivol loses, he will lose many of the things he has won, in part I understand what Bivol is. Plan and Benevidez are very different things, it is another case and things look different.

Eddie Hearn's idea is nuts. He wants Dmitry Bivol to drain down to 168 from 175. That is not going to happen anyway. Bivol will refuse it outright. He would rather stay at 175 and face Artur Beterbiev. The idea of being undisputed at both 168 and 175 may sound very promising, but I am sure that Bivol is intelligent enough to understand the trap that is being laid for him here. IMO, Canelo should focus on fighting John Ryder first, and after that he should fight the winner of the Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez match.

And Bivol hasn't fought in 168 lbs, he was a natural Light HW since the beginning of his career, so we know what Hearn or Canelo is thinking here, to drain Bivol in their rematch to get all the advantage and at least assure of them of a big win. So the ball is on the court of Bivol and his team, if they are going to succumb to the pressures or just simply look for other fight at 175 lbs.

And as I have said, if the Bivol fight is not going to happen, they will pick an easy fight and that could be John Ryder.

On the other hand, Plant vs Benavidez is not a snoozer, Plant's knockout of Dirrell is knockout of the year for me. So he will be riding on this momentum to have a big knockout win and repeat that act, if he can against David.

But Bivol won't be risking his title if he will fight Canelo at 168 lbs, the interesting question for this, is Canelo willing to risk his titles on the line just for the sake of getting a higher chance against Bivol? I don't think that's a good idea, really. They are saying that Bivol should visit Canelo at his division, but what if Bivol will agree and will make the weight.

They should just approach the rematch at Bivol's division and not the opposite because Canelo has nothing to lose anymore, it will be a money fight for their camp without any risks and Canelo will benefit either way as well because he will get a belt if he can pull a win in this rematch.

What if Bivol will do that and try snatching Canelo's belt? It's not by far since Bivol can take that weight and he can continue doing
the same fighting style or maybe he can be more fit.

I get your point and the possibility that Canelo will move up for the sake of money is higher, nothing to lose, but there's a huge
amount that in stake if he will take his chance to call for a rematch in the same weight level.

Let's see if how they will take that, but for the meantime let's move back to Caleb and Benavidez.

Well, I don't know, but apparently Canelo has once again given something to talk about, for his part, I don't even know if Bivol would give him a rematch, if he already went up and sees that it is convenient for him to fight Canelo, he will, otherwise I don't know if he accepts, he what he thinks is that he already beat him, so he has already passed that stage, he would have to have a lot of audience, a lot of demand to be able to fight with him and obviously they give him a lot of money, for his part now well with Benavidez And Caleb still have My doubts, I don't know who I could lean toward, some go squarely with Caleb, but due to everything he has said, there has been speculation, and in some boxing forums it is not clear to me when making a good bet.

Daily Bread Mailbag: Artur Beterbiev, Plant-Benavidez, Jaron Ennis, More



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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edward tackling topics such as unified light heavyweight champion Artur Beterbiev, Caleb Plant vs. David Benavidez, Jaron Ennis, the WBC's direction on transgender athletes, and more.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/daily-bread-mailbag-artur-beterbiev-plant-benavidez-jaron-ennis-more--171640
5956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 12, 2023, 01:06:38 AM
You see no reason for referees using a headset inside the ring but when they do, that is something to really wonder why. There were just hypotheses about referees getting instructions from the top where they could just raise the hand of a fighter that obviously fated to win even before the fight started.

Maybe true, maybe not. We can't just associate that with a form of cheating as maybe, that serves another purpose. Although, who knows?

Generally, from judges to referees, there's really a chance to manipulate results especially if the fight turned out close.

Because of that, I remember the Bivol-Canelo bout where there are speculations that if the fight instead turned out close the whole time, judges can easily score more points for Canelo every round. This fight turned the underdog Bivol into a superstar overnight.

I think in the Bivol vs Canelo, everything was wrong in the beginning, but the judges can't do anything to reward Canelo the win so they make it as close as possible. But we have seen the public making a uproar about the scoring, and who knows, if Bivol didn't dominate the way he did, maybe he could lose by 1 point in that fight and it could be a clear day highway robbery for Bivol. Good thing is that it didn't happen because it will be worst for the judges and Canelo Alvarez reputation. Sometimes its very clear if there is a biased based on the score by those judges.

I can sometimes understand how he feels about Canelo, but he is also a boxer who sometimes blurts out very ugly and I don't know if that's what Bivol doesn't like, Bivol is a boxer who can really mark the difference, in fact, what he seeks is to win the biggest titles possible to be able to execute a unique fame plan, and the truth is that Canelo is very talkative, and that is something that does not give him many privileges or more benefits, I feel that he does not give him Pay attention because of the way Canelo is, I also see that Canelo is sometimes not very professional, and any boxer doesn't like that, because it makes him look like a very street fighting style.

It appears we have another boxer who will be very exciting similar to how Manny Pacman was during his challenges in different weight divisions. However, Naoya Inoue's mission is to be the first male boxer to unify all championships in 2 different divisions. According to this article he mentioned that he will be in the ring again on April or May! I speculate him to challenge Akhmadaliev first, before a unification superfight against Stephen Fulton on December.

He also mentioned that his body can reach the limit to featherweight.



Naoya Inoue became the ninth fighter to unify all four major titles in boxing's four-belt era.

Inoue is now looking to become the only male fighter to accomplish the feat in two weight classes.

"I believe I'm going to aim for it," Inoue said. "We'll need to develop a thorough plan."

The Japanese star will be heading up to 122-pounds, after knocking out British fighter Paul Butler in eleven rounds to unify the IBF, WBO, WBA, WBC world bantamweight titles.

Inoue plans to return on a date in April or May of the coming year.

The world titles at 122-pounds are owned by two undefeated fighters, Uzbekistan's Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Stephen Fulton of the United States - with each boxer holding two belts.


Source https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-i-go-far-featherweight--171207
Compete higher. I would love to see this happen. Make history. Break records. I bet the fighters in that weight division are itching to have a piece of Naoya Inoue but they will have to wait. I mean, who doesn't love good competition and fresh blood?  Cheesy
"Thorough plan." Yes, he will need it as this is a new jungle that he will be up against. He may have dominated his weight class but I am sure the boxers in the next will not just give him what he wants to happen.
Challenges will pour out in his schedule.

Interesting to wait if who among these title holders will be Inoue's target to deal with and call for a challenge fight,
his comeback to formally announce his plan to move up will bring a big hype.

After dominating his current division, it will be a big challenge to him, those belt holders from 122lbs are also
excited to face him.

It would be a good risk for Inoue and whoever champ that he will challenge.

I think that we are all expecting that Inoue could have a challenge with one of those title winners, because it is something common that we want to see him in a new stage, for me Inoue is like one of those athletes who is always expecting to give his best, It doesn't matter what category he's in, he always seeks to have and be the winner no matter what, now I imagine that according to what he's seen he's a good fit with whoever he can fight to make himself known much more, I just imagine that when he starts fighting and have the same streak as before would be something like a scholar, it seems to be like that.

Inoue WBA December Boxer of the Month  – World Boxing Association

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The World Boxing Association (WBA) released its December rankings and with them the individual awards, which went to Japan’s Naoya Inoue as Fighter of the Month and Daniel Dubois as Honorable Mention.

Inoue became the first Japanese-born undisputed champion in history after defeating Paul Butler by technical knockout in 10 rounds during their bout held in Koto-Ku on December 13. 

Source: https://www.saddoboxing.com/57359-inoue-wba-december-boxer-of-the-month-world-boxing-association.html
5957  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: January 11, 2023, 11:30:06 PM
Yes, as long as this organization is still in control of the belts and not the boxers themselves, they can issue their mandatory fight and title eliminators so that only the best  boxers can get their belts.

But the problem is when the boxer held more than one belt, each one has it's own mandatory so he has to go about everyone. But sometimes schedule are not permitted so he either vacate some of the belts that he had. Another good example is Josh Taylor who vacated 3 already and retain one for his fight with Jack Catterall.

Each system has its own advantages and demerits. The boxing administration is fractured at this point, and we have 4 different world championship groups as a result - World Boxing Organization (WBO), International Boxing Federation (IBF), World Boxing Association (WBA) and World Boxing Council (WBC). The dream of every boxer is to unify the belts, but in some cases (example is that of Josh Taylor that you have mentioned) it becomes impossible to do so. But still, the current system is better than media tycoons such as Al Haymon or Bob Arum dictating who should fight whom.

Exactly, but is there a chance that they will change that system to fully satisfy the fans? I think why boxing is here because it's not only for entertainment but also for us to see and to know who the real warriors are, and the only way we can see who is the best among the best is the unification and undisputed fight.

For them? it was just pure business, the business of making money for them, the promoters and the networks. Yeah, you can say that they want to satisfy their fans, but I don't think that is their main goal right now as boxers have evolved as well. In the 80's-90's it was purely for the pride that's why we see a lot of great fights and upsets. But time has change, Floyd becoming "Money Mayweather", started to do his own business makes ton of money. So now boxers specially top tier, wanted millions and if they can't give them that money, then we won't see the mega fight that we wanted, like Spence vs Crawford. And I don't think the system will change, IMHO.

This is what I have always said, in boxing he represents a great business model and wow, money is handled very well, I don't blame him for Mayweather, he is a boxer who used his intelligence a lot, and while he was fighting he managed to make the best contacts for ensure a good retirement, in my case I don't blame him, he is a skilled person, he always has money and he is in the best or best of the best, in the case of other boxers such as Crawford, Spence I think they want to make it more exciting, Making the fans go crazy to ask for their fight is normal, however some legends like Pacquiao celebrate exhibition fights, not bad for them, but I don't see it that way if they do the fights to please the fans.




Among other things:

Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis says Spence or Crawford may want to fight him now



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By Sam Volz: Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis (30-0, 27 KOs) believes there’s a better chance now that the welterweight champions Errol Spence Jr or Terence Crawford will fight him following his less-than-scintillating performance against a survival-focused, fleet of foot Karen Chukhadzhian (21-2, 11 KOs) in winning a one-sided 12 round unanimous decision at the Capitol One Arena in Washington, D.C. If Spence or Crawford needed to see vulnerability in Boots Ennis for them to want to fight him, last night’s bout might have been what they were looking for.

Source: Jaron 'Boots' Ennis Says Spence Or Crawford May Want To Fight Him Now - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/jaron-boots-ennis-says-spence-or-crawford-may-want-to-fight-him-now/)


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/jaron-boots-ennis-says-spence-or-crawford-may-want-to-fight-him-now/
5958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Devin Haney vs Vasiliy Lomachenco on: January 11, 2023, 09:09:01 PM

But I do believed that this is going to be a close fight and not going to be easy for Haney even if he turns to be the betting favorite.

Exactly, Haney will not dominate here completely as Loma has not been dominated yet in his boxing career. He use to be the one who dominate his opponent, so until I see that scenario against him, I would not think that Loma is already not good enough for a fighter like Haney who are still on his prime.

If these odds are true, then Haney is the heavy favorite.
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Lomachenko, who struggled to beat Jamaine Ortiz last weekend, opened at +172 odds.
The opening odds mark the longest in the careers of both fighters.

https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/devin-haney-a-sizable-favorite-in-potential-lomachenko-fight/

That will surely attract bettors if Loma will be listed at +172 in the bookies, however, since it's just a prediction, then we cannot ensure we will see the odds once their fight will be announced or official. Loma had only few fights in his career but most of them are against a quality opponent, that's why the boxing community has huge respect on him and he had a great ranking on the pound for pound during his prime.

Haney is one of the best boxers I've ever seen in a ring, I like his technique and the way he faces his opponents, I know he's much more famous than Loma, maybe for that reason he'll start to open up a lot more demand in the Betting sites, it's something normal, I see it that way, however, we can't leave Loma aside either, he's a surprising boxer, the things that I like about him is that at any time in any round he explodes and gives a demonstration of lob boxing as clear as possible, I don't know how it saves energy, because sometimes it can look very tired but when it really explodes it's as if it's charging.

Davis stops Garcia to retain 'regular' WBA lightweight world title



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Washington (AFP) – American Gervonta Davis took his record to 28-0 with 26 knockouts on Saturday when he stopped previously unbeaten Hector Luis Garcia in a World Boxing Association lightweight fight.

Davis retained his WBA "regular" world title in the division, in which American Devin Haney is recognized as the WBA's "super" world champion.

Unbeaten Haney also holds the WBC, IBF and WBO belts, which he defended with a dominant victory over Australian George Kambosos in Melbourne in October.

Saturday's bout at the Capital One arena in Washington saw Dominican Garcia push Davis in the early going.

Source: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230108-davis-stops-garcia-to-retain-regular-wba-lightweight-world-title
5959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: January 11, 2023, 04:51:19 PM
But in the previous match PSG had a lot of trouble against Strasbourg, even PSG's victory had to go through the white point in the final minutes. Plus Neymar also got a red card which made him feel frustrated. Maybe it's better for Lens to be vigilant when they meet Strasbourg later, this is a team full of surprises when they meet opponents who are far superior.
Even if strasbourg would be given surprise to the another team but i think that if lens will still far superior compared with strasbourg. I think it doesn't matter how hard strasbroug will try but im sure that if lens will be defeating it without any problem. Lens is far superior compared with strasbourg. I think that stras will not make a lot of surprises against lens. Lens will take the point easily like when it was against PSG. Lens is far stronger compared with PSG.
When PSG had difficulties they played against 11 while they were 10 people at that time because Neymar was sent off by the referee. Strasbourg is still very bad for their defense.
I think it will be an easy win for Lens with the state Strasbourg is in now. They are still in a bad condition, their defense is still very messy so it is very difficult for them to face Lens with Lens' current condition with high self-confidence and good goal productivity.

Well, in part, I have seen a lot of PSG inconsistencies, but I think that all this is also due to the fact that when Mbappé is the only one left, he doesn't stand up for the team, I think that's worth realizing that he can't alone, yes Leaving a Messi + Ney is something else, but we all know that Mbappé's relationship with them is like that, the only one in which Mbappé gets along well is with Hakimi, and Hakimi does get along well with everyone, I don't know if Remember in the Qatar World Cup when he beat Spain, he did the same dance he did with Segio Ramos, reminding Luis Enrique that it was a blunder not to take him to the World Cup, I think that was one of the biggest factors in Spain .

I agree, I think that PSG will definitely win this match but I won't be expecting a lot of goals, I had really bad experiences betting on a good team like psg against a team at the bottom of the leaderboard, a lot of times they only win with a difference of one goal, or win 2-0, which doesn't give the best odds, I would avoid betting here.
It was just a mistake in betting and not the fault of the PSG team, because PSG only needs to win with full points when they see their opponents are a little weaker than them. So there's no need to sacrifice more effort from the players to score more goals which in the end also get three points and it's the same thing when they win with the fewest goals they score

We are debating everything with respect to PSG, but we cannot forget what Lens did, however I know that for now PSG as long as they have their 3 big stars will be able to generate many favorable comments and they will be able to generate good news about them, it's normal, 3 stars like those can do anything, but I don't think things can get complicated, what I think if they are preparing is so they can beat Bayern, it's the most complicated game, I don't see any other option, yes we can see PSG is to value you, and as much as some others that go above the League, we will be seeing that PSG will come out of first place.

PSG predicted lineup vs Angers - Ligue 1



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GK: Gianluigi Donnarumma - Keylor Navas had a run-out in the cup game but will return to the bench for this one.

RB: Nordi Mukiele - With Achraf Hakimi serving a one-game suspension for racking up yellow cards, Mukiele will fill in on the right.

Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/psg-predicted-lineup-vs-angers-ligue-1-11-1-23
5960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino games plebs like us must play on: January 11, 2023, 03:53:05 PM
One of the objectives of gambling is to give entertainment to the players and one of these is winning the game which really gives a lot of fun to them, other gamblers is already big names and big funds players which is wanting to seek fun if they win well they gain profit if they lose its just nothing because its all about entertainment to them, other people are seeing the gambling as part of their lifestyle that seems like its their job they must need to earn before quitting the game its all about their luck base of playing gambling, its not ideal if you are just a normal person with a minimum wage of earnings. 
Gambling can certainly be a source of entertainment for many people, and the excitement of potentially winning can add to the enjoyment. However, it is important to remember that gambling should always be approached with caution and within one's financial means. It is not advisable to rely on gambling as a source of income or to gamble more than one can afford to lose. It is also important to choose reputable and licensed gambling venues to ensure fair play and the safety of one's funds. It is always a good idea to set limits for oneself and to gamble responsibly.

They are the best recommendations that you can give to everyone, newbies should take into account that these things can be done, it is not difficult, in my case it took me a few years to have good control so as not to spend more than what I am allowed to spend, Previously, I spent a lot of money betting on dice, and at that time everything was an emotion, of course the emotion was not so much when I lost, but even so, when you play and have the opportunity to win, it is the best, you can do it and have better profits but always having better control of everything, especially money, time can be managed well.
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