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January 05, 2023, 12:48:04 PM |
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Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.
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January 05, 2023, 08:12:08 PM |
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I have seen people asked that AI with mathematical questions but with some logic for it to be answered and I'd say that it failed.
That's why if it's about sportsbetting and predictions, you can't wholly trust your decision into it. But if it's just for fun, you've got all what it takes for you to ask it but don't expect that it will be the result.
You would also notice out that those responses are purely just generic ones which its not that surprising and you are right that there are people who do trying out to test out these AI's for making out some bets basing on what they do recommend but its true that it isnt something reliable for you to depend on.WHen it comes to logic things then it isnt something that would really be that recommended. For the sake of testing out due to curiosity then you would be finding out for yourself and its impossible that you wont notice out about the responses been given. Yeah, that's what I've seen, about logical things it may not that accurate at all. But I guess in other aspects and niches, this is going to be helpful to them. Well, those that have tried to asked it and followed its betting predictions, there might be some bad and good stories about it but I'm not going to follow what it says if it's about my bet. For sure it would really be having those different stories because there would be people whom do find out that it was effective and working but most of the time then it would be sure that it wouldnt be something that you could rely on.Its really just indeed the real thing that if these things were effective on the first place then lot or all of bookies and platforms would really file up some bankruptcy since lots would really be milking out these places and this do proves out that it cant just be possible.It is really just on someones choice whether they would be using it or not.
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January 05, 2023, 08:32:41 PM |
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I have seen people asked that AI with mathematical questions but with some logic for it to be answered and I'd say that it failed.
That's why if it's about sportsbetting and predictions, you can't wholly trust your decision into it. But if it's just for fun, you've got all what it takes for you to ask it but don't expect that it will be the result.
You would also notice out that those responses are purely just generic ones which its not that surprising and you are right that there are people who do trying out to test out these AI's for making out some bets basing on what they do recommend but its true that it isnt something reliable for you to depend on.WHen it comes to logic things then it isnt something that would really be that recommended. For the sake of testing out due to curiosity then you would be finding out for yourself and its impossible that you wont notice out about the responses been given. Yeah, that's what I've seen, about logical things it may not that accurate at all. But I guess in other aspects and niches, this is going to be helpful to them. Well, those that have tried to asked it and followed its betting predictions, there might be some bad and good stories about it but I'm not going to follow what it says if it's about my bet. It was proven that the AI advice isn't accurate and most of it is just a random guess. No way can an AI predict a future outcome of a sports event since it won't have any control over the possible happenings in that sport. We can use @Bitdane shared youtube video as concrete proof that AI is just giving us random answers and isn't 100% accurate, the stream shows lots of wrong calculations that end up in losses. Though the streamer had fun I bet he will never do that again if not for the channel's streaming purposes.
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January 05, 2023, 08:57:04 PM |
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?
Essentially this is all the big sports betting companies are doing to make their own predictions which they offer players, but I suspect they have a lot more data points and have figured out the most relevant ones for each bet. However it might be interesting to see more socially driven betting questions like who do you think will become the next President or Prime Minister, it's just I'm not sure how up to date or contextual the answers will be. You'd expect the casinos and sportbooks to already be factoring this in, they'll always have that profit buffer added in and may just expand it if they think that players are somehow getting an advantage over them. It's a very interesting idea for the future though as it strips a lot of emotion or unrelated facts from the equation that might muddle up the person placing the bet.
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January 05, 2023, 09:04:15 PM |
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Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.
AI has to depend on the data, it doesn't randomize. This means that it would try to do research and weigh people's opinions, bets placed, interviews with players and teams and draw a conclusion from it. You can do the same thing if you want or go with your gut feeling but I'm positive that the AI would always choose the stronger team to bet on. It would never go for the underdog because statistics tells it that the team that has 70% to win should be chosen, right? This means that in the last FIFA World Cup it would bet on Belgium vs Morocco, and about 90% of bets in that match was for Belgium, but it lost.
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January 05, 2023, 09:59:33 PM |
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Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.
AI has to depend on the data, it doesn't randomize. This means that it would try to do research and weigh people's opinions, bets placed, interviews with players and teams and draw a conclusion from it. You can do the same thing if you want or go with your gut feeling but I'm positive that the AI would always choose the stronger team to bet on. It would never go for the underdog because statistics tells it that the team that has 70% to win should be chosen, right? This means that in the last FIFA World Cup it would bet on Belgium vs Morocco, and about 90% of bets in that match was for Belgium, but it lost. For sure the bot or Ai would really be choosing on who does have that higher rating in terms of paper stats or something like this on which it isnt something that you could really rely.AI's are relying into such information which did happen in the past and it wouldnt be able to caught up with the current or recent events which they would be automatically be able to put it into their library or database. upsets could really happen and there's no one whether a human or ai could able to predict these scenarios or situations which it isnt really something that you could handle it out.
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January 05, 2023, 10:11:22 PM |
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I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.
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January 05, 2023, 10:49:41 PM |
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Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.
AI has to depend on the data, it doesn't randomize. This means that it would try to do research and weigh people's opinions, bets placed, interviews with players and teams and draw a conclusion from it. You can do the same thing if you want or go with your gut feeling but I'm positive that the AI would always choose the stronger team to bet on. It would never go for the underdog because statistics tells it that the team that has 70% to win should be chosen, right? This means that in the last FIFA World Cup it would bet on Belgium vs Morocco, and about 90% of bets in that match was for Belgium, but it lost. For sure the bot or Ai would really be choosing on who does have that higher rating in terms of paper stats or something like this on which it isnt something that you could really rely.AI's are relying into such information which did happen in the past and it wouldnt be able to caught up with the current or recent events which they would be automatically be able to put it into their library or database. upsets could really happen and there's no one whether a human or ai could able to predict these scenarios or situations which it isnt really something that you could handle it out. Nothing but to agree with your statement, upset is always present in any sports and even with the help of AI we really can't tell when upset will take place, in regard to how AI will work I also agree that they will base their judgment with how the team or players being written from the paper stats which it will be based from the past plays and games that they've got. We can't tell how accurate AI can be but the advantage that I can see is if you are a fan of basing your judgements with the advantages of your selected players or teams then AI can help you to lessen the research, it will save you time in doing it with the help of AI.
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January 05, 2023, 10:57:10 PM |
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I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.
If AI is able to improve the accuracy of forecasts, then this is bad news, especially for bettors, because the most advanced AI will be in exclusive access to bookmakers and not to players. Even if a perfect AI appears that is equally accessible to both bookmakers and players, it will be a disadvantage for the players: bookmakers will simply increase their margin. No publicly available tool will give you the opportunity to make money against the market. I think it's obvious.
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January 05, 2023, 11:19:46 PM |
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I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.
I think when it comes to data collection, analysis, and comparison of every player, if AI has all the access to the data of each team and player, I believe the AI will come up with a better analogy than a veteran analyst. AI removes emotions that somehow affect a person's view since favoritism vague a person's decision. So personally, I think AI is different from newsletters because it will come up with a better version of analogy and prediction.
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January 05, 2023, 11:32:47 PM |
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I still haven’t tried this out yet to see how it could work, but I do like all the discussion surrounding it. Personally, I don’t see why using AI would be any different than betting with a newsletter or following someone else’s picks. Who knows, maybe AI would be better. Without trying it out it’s hard to say, but next time I’m messing with ChatGPT I’m definitely going to give it a little test.
I think when it comes to data collection, analysis, and comparison of every player, if AI has all the access to the data of each team and player, I believe the AI will come up with a better analogy than a veteran analyst. AI removes emotions that somehow affect a person's view since favoritism vague a person's decision. So personally, I think AI is different from newsletters because it will come up with a better version of analogy and prediction. AI have entered each and every sector. Now this isn't big to discuss. The usage of AI into gambling industry doesn't look to be more interesting, because it does the prediction based on the data available along with the past results comparison. I don't know whether it'll have the ability to watch the match scenario and predict the outcome according to the situation.
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For sure it would really be having those different stories because there would be people whom do find out that it was effective and working but most of the time then it would be sure that it wouldnt be something that you could rely on.Its really just indeed the real thing that if these things were effective on the first place then lot or all of bookies and platforms would really file up some bankruptcy since lots would really be milking out these places and this do proves out that it cant just be possible.It is really just on someones choice whether they would be using it or not.
I actually have asked it some specific questions and it was honest, to be fair, and said that it was just programmed and answers that it produces couldn't be perfect and accurate at some times. It was proven that the AI advice isn't accurate and most of it is just a random guess. No way can an AI predict a future outcome of a sports event since it won't have any control over the possible happenings in that sport.
Yup. I have asked some questions related to predictions and admitted that it can't give such answers.
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January 07, 2023, 01:50:04 PM |
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I think when it comes to data collection, analysis, and comparison of every player, if AI has all the access to the data of each team and player, I believe the AI will come up with a better analogy than a veteran analyst. AI removes emotions that somehow affect a person's view since favoritism vague a person's decision. So personally, I think AI is different from newsletters because it will come up with a better version of analogy and prediction.
In general, I agree, but the exclusion of the emotions of the one who predicts does not solve the problem of emotions in sports in general - they remain with the players. As we know, sometimes weaker opponents (as it is believed, this may be wrong - who knows) are able to outperform stronger ones due to their moral and volitional qualities. Or a strong player, having got into a stressful situation, sharply weakens the strength of his game. If AI is able to take into account such nuances by seeing them in some numbers, then of course it will be a better predictor than any pro.
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Betting can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems or bets can be placed using automated betting bots managed by artificial intelligence systems. But i would never want the AI to decide on the bets. Because all the ambiance of betting would be lost. AI has no feelings or interests. If i bet with artificial intelligence, i cannot experience the excitement, calculations and ambition i experience while betting. Traditionally, i would continue to gamble and so i voted no.
As you said, bets can be made using predictions generated by artificial intelligence systems. but in fact, what happens will not always be as predicted by the artificial intelligence system. especially in this context is chatgpt. chatgpt is an AI-powered chabot, capable of creating interaction-style conversations. developed by OpenAI, chatgpt has the ability to really help humans. however, actually what you are worried about will not happen. Believe me, so far this artificial kecedasar is still in the development stage for refinement. You don't need to worry about chatgpt which gamblers might be able to use to predict matches. I take the example of football, in football there are no definite calculations, what happens on the field will not always be as predicted. although on paper, the stronger team will have the upper hand. if football can be predicted accurately with mathematical calculations let alone artificial intelligence. then what happened, the world of professional sports would soon disappear. why, if the result could be decided before the fight even started. then, what is a match held for.
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January 08, 2023, 08:06:31 AM |
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For sure it would really be having those different stories because there would be people whom do find out that it was effective and working but most of the time then it would be sure that it wouldnt be something that you could rely on.Its really just indeed the real thing that if these things were effective on the first place then lot or all of bookies and platforms would really file up some bankruptcy since lots would really be milking out these places and this do proves out that it cant just be possible.It is really just on someones choice whether they would be using it or not.
I actually have asked it some specific questions and it was honest, to be fair, and said that it was just programmed and answers that it produces couldn't be perfect and accurate at some times. Even if there are no disclaimers like that, we people already know that they are not perfect and it was still a new thing right? So, this bot still needs a lot of improvement to run better. At the mean time, if we want to do something more effective, then it should be the done in the old fashioned way. I still think that bots like this are created for other things and not necessarily to help people to win on gambling, to help them finish their daily jobs, to do their homework in school, etc. Imagining it would be crazy. Technologies are so amazing and no doubt helpful but people shouldn't cross their limits and abuse what these technologies can do as it can only cause more harm than good.
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January 09, 2023, 04:43:13 AM |
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No. I gamble for fun and delegating it to ai would be fruitless for me. However I agree with, Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?
That'd only work with sports betting I think.
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January 09, 2023, 05:15:42 AM |
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are? Any other thoughts?
I haven't tried it yet but if on its introduction and test run it has succeeded in the industries where it was tested and is being tested why not, we are living where we integrate new forms of technology to reach our goal and AI is one of this, we should try it out but by incorporating it, casinos will have a hard time to address when used of AI when it is finally incorporated because it will greatly benefit gamblers more than the casinos.
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January 09, 2023, 10:37:02 AM |
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I don't know how AI would give us an accurate results, one thing i know is that predicting a match is more to an AI work even most times we humans finds it difficult determines who wins the match. Let's say for a gambling or casino site to start allowing such in their website would be a thing not acceptable to them, in as much we planning to win correctly they are also wanting to maximize their profits which limiting some forms of AI and tools on their website.
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January 09, 2023, 11:59:44 AM |
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I don't know how AI would give us an accurate results, one thing i know is that predicting a match is more to an AI work even most times we humans finds it difficult determines who wins the match. Let's say for a gambling or casino site to start allowing such in their website would be a thing not acceptable to them, in as much we planning to win correctly they are also wanting to maximize their profits which limiting some forms of AI and tools on their website.
Maybe we haven't seen a high performance from AI because the technology to predict matches is not enough to collect valid data on the internet. But maybe it will get better in the coming years as new technologies get better than they are now. And if AI technology can really help humans collect more valid information, it will help humans to be able to place bets on teams that really have a greater potential to win than the opposing team. And maybe casinos will also make regulations related to the use of AI itself.
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January 09, 2023, 12:03:34 PM |
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I don't know how AI would give us an accurate results, one thing i know is that predicting a match is more to an AI work even most times we humans finds it difficult determines who wins the match. Let's say for a gambling or casino site to start allowing such in their website would be a thing not acceptable to them, in as much we planning to win correctly they are also wanting to maximize their profits which limiting some forms of AI and tools on their website.
The thing with a casino is that the games are already set with odds so that the house is always in favor. That means that even if you have a super AI that calculates everything, every single possible move you can make in a casino has at best a slight advantage to the casino. This is why casinos make such amounts of money, because it's basically taking all the money from all the players in the long term, and paying sporadically to some players, some times.
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