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5941  Economy / Economics / Re: Spending Bitcoins on: February 03, 2017, 12:32:26 PM
I want to save my bitcoins as a wallets and when i need for money then exchanged with our traders as a real money.
Absolutely, there is no use if you will just keep your bitcoin and you have no plan of cashing it out. However, if we really are investors, we have to aim to grow the value of our bitcoins, the current price surge would tell us not to sell and hold a little bit. There's a bigger profit that is waiting for us, we just have to be patient.
5942  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: February 03, 2017, 12:25:41 PM
Yes certainly, fiat money is used, bitcoin used no more than 0,005%, I am sure there are many countries that are 100% not using bitcoin. so impossible that bitcoin replacing fiat money.

In order for bitcoin to replace fiat, it should be introduced by the government to their people, but if we are just going to wait for normal adoption, it will take forever, and some of us have already left bitcoin and new comers enters, so no increase in number, only in numbers of people who have experience using it, and that won't be good for bitcoin...  Smiley
No, we do not need the government to support Bitcoin. In fact, there have been many revolutions in the history which were not run by the government. As long as an individual know how to advertise and support Bitcoin, it will soon replace fiat in many aspects. From what I know, the government will never accept Bitcoin because they can not collect tax from the people using this crypto
There is no way we can win against the government, they are very powerful and they can make bitcoin disappear by making a law which states the use of bitcoin is illegal. We need them, and that is a practical answer from me.

It's not true that they cannot collect tax from us, the fact that we have to convert our bitcoin to fiat in a certain exchanges, we can be trace then.
5943  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: February 03, 2017, 12:16:58 PM
If you own some amount then investing is the best way for steady income. Some sites are giving 100-120% profit after a decided time. You can earn without any effort. The more you can invest, more you will get.

Investing from "Some sites" won't do. I'm pretty sure that that's just the classic ponzi scam and that's pretty much has been bashed in this forum for million times already. I wouldn't invest in some sites unless it's a gambling casino that has a good team and has a good amount of funds allotted for advertisement. It's pretty risky to invest in other businesses because at any given time, even if their objective was to honestly give profit to their investors, when there's a lot of money in their hands, they can become greedy and run away your money.
Our weakness are already expose to this HYIP operators, they offered great reward in a short period of time and we are attracted since we are desperate enough to make money. We should not allow our greediness will prevail, we should do it slowly and look for better and legitimate investment program. Gambling sites are a good example, we can start investing with them as they are profitable and reputable.
5944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 03, 2017, 06:25:29 AM
The Washington Wizards defeated the Lakers with John Wall double double (33 pts, 11 asts). I lost my bet on this game because I have the handicap points for wizards with -10.5. Anyway, just have to move on, there are more games on the board. I will be betting with the Clippers Moneyline tonight, Draymond Green will not play so it's Blake show tonight.
It will hard for the clippers to win against the warriors today with moneyline you should bet the clippers handicap +10 that would be possible because of homecourt advantage and no Draymond.
It's not +10 for the Clippers but only +7.5, the line drop when Draymond Green was announce that he is not available tonight due to injury. I think the moneyline and the plus points are a good bet. Currently, warriors are on fire with a good 3 point shooting, but let's see if the Clippers can rally.
Regardless, the clippers still lose with 13 points so both did not cover. Without Draymond, they can still manage to win, what a very talented warriors squad. I guess they will not gonna experience a loss again, unless they are on a bad spot like a back to back games or playing more games with little rest.
5945  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does any bank accept Bitcoin? on: February 03, 2017, 05:46:28 AM
I am not sure if this is something for what you are looking for but I found a piece of article claiming that

Global Digital Bank WB21 Starts Accepting Bitcoin Deposits.

Some banks in India are working on blockchain technology to make their transactions faster but it is not related to bitcoin yet and even I didn't read any such news about it.

So, some bank just start accepting bitcoin. Well in my country, banks do not accept bitcoin yet because bitcoin did not really popular here, but i believe it might be accepted in other countries...I hope some bank in my country will accept bitcoin some day.
This is great, it will give another exposure to the people once bank supported bitcoin. I am pretty sure they have a good number of depositors that will come, it will be in their favor since they can use the money for their operation. I have not read how is the terms and condition under this type of deposit, it says it's under your current account. If this will be allowed in our country there should be a specific memorandum from central bank to give people a better understanding.
5946  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: February 03, 2017, 03:09:01 AM
Waiting will be the best option for. Bitcoin price is dramatically changing now,and its a good news that the price is increasing. And even if the price drops that won't last longer.If you can wait for 2/3 weeks,I'm quite sure that you can cut a good amount of profit. Just don't loose your confidence to hold for these time.If it was for a very long term I won't recommend to do it. But for short term you can definitely wait and see what comes next. The result will be better I believe!
Yes, I totally agree with you.
In this current situation, waiting is the best option for now, because nowadays bitcoin price grow slowly. 1 011$ right now. It is such a great price. so if we wait more maybe the price will start growing freakly and then we can sold. But for me, I want to save my bitcoin for a long time. So i didn't want to sell even if the price will be 1500$.
This is the time where we should be monitoring the price, it's currently rising and we will make great profit if this will continue. However, there's a chance also that it will fall, so timing is really necessary and what we have to do is to sell once it will start to fall but until then, we should be more patient.
5947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some people prefer Bitcoin over fiat ? on: February 03, 2017, 02:47:02 AM
things like this has become a habit not only of bitcoin users even of the FIAT also.
This habit will change once we see something new to replace fiat but if it is not supported by the government, we will be taking risk then. I guess it is more on the conformance on what the government wants us to do, we use fiat since it is very easy to use and we have trust and confidence on it.
5948  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: February 02, 2017, 06:43:40 AM
Actually we can't find anything is 100% for steady income in the Internet world. In this forum, trading for steady income is only suitable for pros, if you are a good poster, you can make money from signature campaign and social media campaign. But remember don't spam and cheat, otherwise you may be banned from here. You can find them to make steady but not much income in the following section:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
A little amount that we can earn but it will be considered as steady since there's plenty of campaign here where you can join, but let's mature, aim for a bigger one. We are here already, so let us make sure we can make great income than in real life.
The journey is hard since it's risky but put in mind if others succeed, there should be a good way to have a steady income we have not found yet.
5949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: February 02, 2017, 06:06:30 AM
if money is not an issue, maybe everyone will gamble every day. but in reality, the money becomes very essential for life, not just a gambling game. in addition, we also need money for day-to-day, so I guess when money is no longer a problem, it will be very many people who gamble.

There are some but there are some that won't. For those people who aren't going to keep on gambling are the wise ones because they know that gambling can get all they got if they aren't going to be careful. And for those people that are going to keep on gambling are the ones who are truly addicted gamblers and they are those happy go lucky people.
I am not gonna lie, I would gamble but I will try a good casino like testing all popular casinos in the world. Probably, the number 1 in my list is going to Vegas, I never been there and it has been my dream. Seeing hot chicks is one factor that i love to experience as well, so it will be more fun as I can do anything I like with my money.

i think its a good idea to test playing gambling in real life but there is only few people that can test it especially if gambling is prohibited for some country and for me, i think i will continue to playing gambling in online gambling sites because i don't see that there is any offline casino around in my city and i don't think that playing gambling in some places are allow.
There are different forms of gambling and you do not need to go to a particular casino just to play. In my experience, I can play it at home with my friends and relatives, I played poker and we have so much fun. I think if we go to a real casino, our chances of winning will be low, because you will get destructed with what you will see, especially there are beautiful chicks there.
5950  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Daily use of bitcoin? on: February 02, 2017, 04:58:28 AM
for the moment, I do not use bitcoin every day. Well, I limit the use of bitcoin maybe 4 times per week. I do so I do not use bitcoin I have with quickly, because lately, I use bitcoin quickly, so it is very easy to run out. so, I limit their use.
it is one risk. we could easily spend money that we have. with bitcoin transactions can be done anywhere and anytime we are. we should really take advantage of bitcoin.

In my country, spednding bitcoin is so hard.Here no one shopkeeper didn't know about bitcoin, So the don't accept bitcoin as a payment processor.If I want to buy something, ifirstI have to sell my bitcoin with local currency and after that, I can spend that money for shopping.But i can spend my bitcoin online very easily.Its a plus point for me. Smiley
We have the same situation, but I don't see it a big problem, we are in the process and people are just adopting and for sure in the long run we will gonna see that. Be positive and put your patient high, what is important is we were able to enjoy our bitcoin in other ways. I don't mind if I cannot use my bitcoin daily as long as I can earn it.
5951  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: February 02, 2017, 04:05:36 AM
Namely, that money loves silence while big money loves grave silence

In that case, I think it's time to really go back to keeping money under the pillow than putting it in banks knowing that your identity and your money is compromised...  I have no experience on such thing as bank account numbers being sold... I only encountered ISP( internet ) accounts being sold in the gray market and being used by fncked up by different people...

Anyway, I wonder if there are still people who put their moneys in safety deposit boxes and never put it in their debit cards? I think that's safer, you have your paper money in the vault...  Cheesy

Honestly, I don't quite understand your question

Really, if you have literally millions of dollars (or anything worth millions of dollars), why on Earth would you want to put that much on you debit card? What's the sense of doing that? In this manner, there is no real contradiction (if that was your intention as I got your point) between saving hefty amounts of paper money (or, say, gold) in a deposit box in a bank and putting only dust (in relative terms, of course) in your card account in that bank. In any case, the bank has access to both your account and deposit box, so from the bank's point of view (but not yours), it is basically six of one and half a dozen of the other. But then again, why would you want to pour millions to your debit card in the first place, to attract thieves like shit attracts flies and honey bees?

more precisely if we keep the money in the bank means we deposit the money, definitely not only you yourself knows about money, there are others who know your money, I think it has become a business, we leave something valuable in the bank or debit and they offer security over the valuables you have, as I said this is a business I think already paper money will remain despite its use on a large scale would be less , because not everyone will deposit something valuable of hers to others. paper money will continue to be used but less, and digital money will be more grown up. times will indeed give you many options.
If you are concern with the privacy, I guess we cannot have that if bitcoin are still dependent on fiat with its value. The fact that we will cash out in our respective exchange sites, the government already knows that and they will require the exchange sites to act as a bank and follow the KYC policy. With everyone complying with the KYC policy, the government can now then take our information if they will demand for it.

The risk with trusting our personal info with exchange site is similar with banks, they can divulge it without our knowing.
5952  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin can not replace fiat on: February 02, 2017, 03:43:53 AM
Why do you guys insist bitcoin's target is to replace fiat? Why bitcoin can't be existing along with fiat? Or be the alternative cureency of fiat? Bitcoin and fiat is not the combination of black&white, evil&righterous, they can be bros, fiat is bigger brother, and bitcoin is smaller brother, they are family and co-exist and help mutually.
Because they want to be rich, imagine if bitcoin will replace fiat and we have a limit supply. Even if we are just holding at least BTC1, I believe we could be millionaire already. That's crazy, right? I don't think this fantasy will happen, we will never gonna see this and not even if bitcoin will be very popular.
5953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: February 02, 2017, 02:50:50 AM
Everyone like dice to explore their luck
I was addicted to it and really were addicted to it the first time i played it.
I gambled for hours and my christmas gift which my cousin gave me was blown away into thin air.
It was really dissapointing.
Despite of that, dice is still your favorite game. I believe it is already expected that we can also lose big amount if we risk bigger amount. That's a gift given from you but you gave it away in gambling site, that is disappointing of course, don't worry you are not the only one who have that kind of experience. Most of us are losers, but what matters is we are still here to enjoy.
5954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: February 02, 2017, 02:37:09 AM
I think the best way to quit gambling is saving money on the bank. If we are going to save and save, we are not going to gamble or play stake our money. It is only way to quit gambling. Quitting gambling is so hard if you are addicted to gambling. If we are playing just for fun, we can continue, but we are playing because of greediness, we must stop playing gambling.
The problem is you cannot save because you are still gonna spend your money, I never heard an addicted gambler able to save despite under the state of addiction. What I know is, most addicted gamblers spend all their savings and that is the money not intended for gambling just to finance their gambling addiction.
5955  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 02, 2017, 01:57:07 AM
Bitcoin is a very easy choice for me since the price of gold does not seem to move that much these days, you can profit a lot more with bitcoin than with gold.

Well right now bitcoin is stagnant more than gold, and market volatility only bring more unnecessary randomness and high % of losses, you can trade with gold as bitcoin with high leverage, therefore you don't need high volatility

and with gold have higher leverage than bitcoin, at least this how it look on every exchange, you don't get more than 10x leverage for bitcoin
You are correct but it is not like we are going to move all our money from one market to the other just because a markets has been under performing for a few weeks, bitcoin presents more movement and with it more trade opportunities for those that are able to seize them.
We have to set goals and not just going with the flow. Not all money is advisable to put in trading, or else if the price goes down and you plan to sell then you have no choice but to cry. Both of them are good investment, better to have them both because they differ in any aspect. In any case, gold is as stable as bitcoin for now, but bitcoin has a lot more potential to earn more.
You have to put that in mind, diversifying your investment is the most important thing you have to do. Everything has a risk, so have to manage it and diversification is the answer. Actually, I trust bitcoin so much but I have to control myself, I have to make sure, I will not be putting all my money here, I also make myself busy with investment in real life.
5956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 01, 2017, 10:59:44 AM
Discipline could be the key for everyone who want to gamble in smart way.
Stick to the plan , making a steady profit that's how smart people gambling .
Not to follow your greedy , you will never find your end of satisfaction.

Right when being greedy strikes it will for sure not lead into any good things. When we play keep ourselves controlled and learn when to continue to play or to bet. It is good to know when to stop ,so we don't need to waste our time and effort by just losing. If the fortune is not on it better play other day.
yeaaa everytime you think you have crossed the limit and will spend the amount that you cannot even afford to lose , will be better to stop it immediately before something terrible happened and start gambling in a new day, new way.
greedy is the number one enemy , once you can get over that , you have in right way to gamble smartly.
I guess that is going to be a long process, greediness is already inside us even before we start to gamble. That needs to be learn and you need a lot of discipline to be able to conquer your greed and eventually to control yourself. That can be learn but we must accept we have that kind of weakness.
5957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Qtum]UTXO based POS Smart Contract Platform-QA Feb1st Patrick/Earlz/BoShen on: February 01, 2017, 07:23:42 AM
seems the draft version whitepaper online again.
https://qtum.org/whitepaper/

Great , and thanks for the link. I better have a good look and read about all the details. Qtum is the future of Altcoins and we must all get involved.
That is the reason why we are here, we get involved because we support this project. With more updates of development that has come up, this should help us decide how much we are willing to risk for this investment. For me, I strongly believe, this is going to be the biggest project for 2017.
5958  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: February 01, 2017, 07:11:17 AM
These are some arguments showing why Bitcoin will make a real revolution in the world's economical life.
The use of Bitcoin will intensify.
More and more people are going to use the Bitcoin, experts predict, which should propel its price towards new heavens.

Although other competing virtual currencies are emerging, the Bitcoin benefits from a serious "advantage to the first entrant" with a multitude of applications that offer its use and an increasing number of internet sites allowing to exchange Bitcoins. The Bitcoin is a reserve currency

In the race for the status of reserve currency, the Bitcoin could soon compete with the Yuan, the Chinese currency.
I can say that the competition is only among the altcoins themselves, there is no competition of bitcoin and no alts  will replace bitcoin or else crypto world will be diminish. As bitcoin gets more popular, it will also help the altcoins to progress, they live to make this world better than what we are used to, believe me, the future is great with bitcoin.
5959  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: February 01, 2017, 05:56:32 AM
I am not buying right now because the price of bitcoin is little high right now, when it was at 750 usd i bought some bitcoin. At the moment i am not selling any bitcoin because bitcoin price is completely in volatile, i will still hold for some more days because may be the price of bitcoin can increase in coming days.
For now Current BTC PRICE $976~ . Then you waiting for bitcoin down or fall ro 750$? Bitcoin is currently in a stable point worth of price, I guess you'll missed of moment if you still waiting for roller coaster.
It's not good to hope for the price to fall back just for our own interest, we might not gonna see that lower price so take some guts to ride with the current price. I guess we will be heading to another success of reaching $1,000 and we might surpass what was previously achieve as all time price. Never hesitate to risk, we are bound to success.
5960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Sports Betting for You? on: February 01, 2017, 05:45:48 AM
Sports betting is much preferred by most of the gambling personalities. It has high winning percentage than the other methods of gambling such as casino, dice and other events. At the same more and more unexpected things happen with sports betting.
And sport betting is not good for those people who do not have any interest in games and not for those people who do not use their mind in gambling, because in sports gambling you mostly depend on analysis and knowledge about the player and teams and if you do not have proper knowledge about the players or team then you cannot be succeeded in sports gambling.
That is right, no gambler would play in sports betting if they do not have the interest or knowledge about sports. However, since sports betting is very popular, most of the men bettors are into it, they live to bet while seeing the games live and honestly I am part of the people who love sports and it is so fun but until now I am not getting any profit.
There is nothing we can do about it, we are unique and we have our own game. I like different games and that includes sports betting. Honestly, I am very positive that I can win all the time but seems like the outcome does not favor me mos of the time.

We think sports betting is easy because we can analyze our bet but actually it is base on luck also.
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