Most of the topics there need to be archived/locked or removed entirely. The discussion has long come to an end, but its easy for bounty participants to add a generic post in the thread, and get paid for it. The underlying issue is how easy it is to make an account, and start making money through bounties, because of the low standards of acceptance from altcoins.
It's nice to see you as a staff mate. Indeed, the problem is that bounty managers weren't professional. They accept spammers and don't really care about the quality. They only care about quantity. I think we've made progress since Lord Theymos approved this suggestion: • Enforce the sig campaign guidelines. If a campaign is spotted that is doing little to nothing and is abused en mass by spammers, farmers, bots and copy and pasters they are warned. If nothing changes then they are punished with such things as bans, threads trashed, signatures blacklisted site-wide etc.
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Your post has nothing new.
There is no relevance between signature bounty and increasing knowledge. These are two completely different things.
Then why you still shitposting if you already know? It must be easy for you to create 10 posts a week. *cough
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Why don't you post something useful instead of this merit fapping? As for newbie here, merit is useful only for signature campaign. Don't feel obliged to get a merit, your post quality (and learning) is more important. Thanks for your positive attitude even though I've called you a merit fapper *lol But really mate, there are so many things to write. Don't just write about merit and post only on Meta. Go here  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0
<...>Might be the case that some others have posted something about similar topics, but especially for Newbies in this forum, just like me, it takes forever to find such information, hence it's very useful to find such posts again<...>
I thought I added something new and valuable here... Oh well, your welcome mate. |
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First of all, I started with 0 merits, 0 friends, non-native English speaker, average IQ, and this is my first and my only active account on the bitcointalk forum. If you are searching for the ultimate average Joe newbie who can get some merit, I'm one of them. #1 The AttitudeIn my opinion, this is the most important quality if you join a new forum or a new community. Your attitude here cannot be just asking, begging, and seek profit for yourself. You need to give something to the BTT community to get "gratuities" in the form of merit point. Because this is a forum for bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, you need to have a decent knowledge before you can make a meaningful post. Your attitude should be "read more and write less," doesn't matter how smart you were in your little pond. Most of the time, you are dumb. This is a place where a newbie can read posts created by satoshi, gmaxwell, Gavin Andresen, and many more bitcoin guru. Because this forum currently full of spam and scam, as a newbie, there is a high probability that you will experience insult and some hostility from some high-rank member. Just don't get butthurt and move on with your learning process. Many high-rank members are a "filthy rich" millionaire and a bitcoin guru, so actually, it's better to get a response from them, instead of nothing like in our everyday real-life. #2 Posting a New ReplyBefore you post a reply on a topic, you should follow the discussion, not only read the OP's post but also until last post reply. Most of the time, someone already wrote what you're going to write so don't repeat it. Remember "read more and write less." Don't reply on a spam topic i.e. topic with little or no new meaningful information. If you have read a lot of topics, you will see that topics like "top altcoin," "bitcoin price," "bitcoin vs fiat," etc., have been created (and answered) multiple times. You want to avoid replying on this "megathread." When you find a good topic and you can give a meaningful valid reply, then take your time, don't just post short (one-liner) reply without full information. It's not that you have to expand your sentence to get a longer text, but just give clear and concise full information. Don't claim other work as your work, note that plagiarism will result in a permanent ban. You must give a correct citation if you want to insert a quote from another writer. #3 Posting a New TopicBefore you create a new topic, you must use the search button and/or google site search. Use keyword site:bitcointalk.org Just don't create a duplicate post if you don't have new information to share. As a newbie, actually you will rarely need to create your own topic. Merit can be earned anywhere including your local board. If you have a limited English like me, consider creating a good quality topic on your local board. It's easier to write a good quality topic on the local board because not many papers were translated/reworked and discussed in the local language. You don't need fancy style or heavy formatting to create a good post, let your writing speak for itself. You can also create your own bitcoin guide to help local member learn about bitcoin in a serial post. See my local learning thread, for example, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459504.0 on this thread I use self-moderation to remove spam to keep clean of my "classroom." #4 Make Friends (and Enemies)When you participate in the effort of making this forum better, you'll naturally attract other good members to become your friend, or at least frequently interact with them. However, you also attract other shitposters, spammers, and fellow "newbies who don't get it" to hate you. Related to this spammers, you have two options: become a cunt or become a Dalai Lama. It's your personal choice. #5 THE BountyI regret my decision on joining signature campaign bounty. At first, 10 posts a week seems like nothing. But it will hinder your further learning development. 10 Serious posts in a week is a lot of work! Yes, it's nothing if you are shitposting and not implement my suggestion from #2 and #3. I consider taking a break on sigcamp for at least a month or two after this campaign end. I think the article campaign is more suitable for me. Now I know why the signature campaign participant often being called as shitposter. As a closure, I didn't create this topic as a way of merit fishing as I'm also annoyed by merit fishers on the Meta board. I'm pretty confident that my posting behavior and my attitude will earn me merits in the future. I think this is the first and the last time I ever post a new topic about merit. Anyway, if you find this post helpful, please consider donating to World Wide Fund for Nature. See ya~ PS: Feel free to point out my grammar errors in this topic, and I'm more than happy to fix it. Message from The Don:about quoting the whole post when not needed - that gets people put on ignore lists.
Don't quote the whole post when not needed, guys. You will only need to click the "reply" button for most cases. Respect other readers! They will find it really annoying to scroll down the quoted full post, only to find your one paragraph comment. Worth reading:<...>
Now, I would like to share something about myself and my journey in this scary wonderful place that this forum and community is (and it is AMAZING hehe)
I have been a member on the forum for a year now, and have educated myself and gathered knowledge on the same forum for a few years now. I may have been taking my sweet time with posting on topics and replies, but I thought at the time that the issues were already addressed (as I like to read back quite a bit) or my opinion wasn't valid or helpful enough to warrant a post from me. Hence, I am a 1 year member with a Newbie account with 5 posts (6 posts, this one included) and no merit - AND THIS IS FINE. I wouldn't have it any other way. Why?
Well, the answer to this question is simple - I have learned so much and have grown as an investor and supporter of crypto projects, that in my mind I am the one who has benefited so much and have given back to the community so little, it shames me. But yeah, I completely agree with "read more write less" and would add "don't say anything if you have nothing to say" (informative or constructive, with a brief explanation as to why), and have been following this rule as a general principal in life.
Following these principals, I can now say that I have the knowledge and know-how (still have a lot to learn though) to be able to take over and revive a cryptocurrency project and make it grow, flourish and succeed, because I believe its the right thing to do (lazy devs, didnt want to make an effort and didnt want to do the work)......
And before I go off topic here, just wanted to give a sincere thank you to the OP for sharing his journey with us, and making an effort to help out the new forum members on how to properly and sincerely become part of the amazing crypto community we have
Suggested reading:TMAN'S guide to getting merit >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0Guide to earning merits >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2901152.0Newbie with merit? Yes its possible! >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4442656.0Ranking up easily. Newbie to Member in less than 2 months! >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4779262.0LIST OF THREADS GIVING AWAY MERIT POINTS FOR QUALITY POSTS >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832127.0Index to popular bitcointalk threads >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4422529.0 |
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Ane tidak butthurt ketika post ane dihapus agan @Jaran goyang2712 dan agan @manji, jadi ketika thread OP tsb dikunci ya ane pikir masalahnya sudah selesai. Cuma untuk kedepannya ane berharap hal seperti ini bisa diminimalisir... Jadi lebih diperjelas lagi bagaimana aturan main dari Thread self-moderated tersebut, seperti contoh sebagai berikut :
- Dilarang menyalahgunakan fungsi self-moderated untuk kepentingan pribadi. (contoh : menghapus post (yang bukan spam, low quality post, quote pyramid) karena tidak sesuai dengan opini OP)
- Menjaga arah diskusi sesuai dengan topik yang ada.
- Wajib Menghapus post yang bersifat spam, low quality post, quote pyramid (jika ragu mengenai kriteria spam yg dimaksud, bisa menggunakan fungsi Report to moderator)
- Sangsi penyalahgunaan fungsi self-moderated atau tidak menjalankan fungsi self-moderated sebagaimana hal yang telah disebutkan diatas, maka thread akan dikunci (atau sangsi lainnya)
Selama ini ane menerapkan "Wajib Menghapus post yang bersifat spam, low quality post, quote pyramid (jika ragu mengenai kriteria spam yg dimaksud, bisa menggunakan fungsi Report to moderator)" secara diktator... apakah lebih baik menggunakan report to moderator saja ya? Ane juga tidak enak ketika ada member lain yang butthurt ketika post-nya ane hapus |
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Berhubung ane punya beberapa merit yang bisa dibagi, coba ane liat siapa tau ada yang menarik* *menarik menurut ane (subjektif) adalah hal yang betul/valid dan ane belum pernah denger <...>
1,2,5-10: Belum ada informasi baru 3,4: Bagus tapi sudah banyak yang merit, hehehe #pelit Mohon bantuannya gan, Post untuk di review :
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1-3: Belum ada informasi baru 4: +1 5-13: Belum ada informasi baru Secara keseluruhan kualitas pos agan lumayan, cuma sebagian besar masih bersifat pengetahuan umum (generik). Mohon Review nya untuk post post Ane Gan.
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1,2,4,6,7,8,10,12,13,16,18,20,21,22,23,24,25,26: Maaf ane hanya melayani Bahasa Indonesia, kurang bisa Bahasa Inggris 3,5,9,11,14,15,19: Belum ada informasi baru 17: Grafiknya mantab, tapi sayang waktu mau +1 eh ternyata bukan hasil karya sendiri Secara keseluruhan agan kurang terlibat di forum lokal selain di bagian trading, kalau agan memang suka trading kenapa tidak buat thread khusus tutorial trading? Kemungkinan besar akan banyak merit kalau memang bagus. Maaf belum ada dari ane untuk saat ini gan. |
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== END ==BIP-141/173: Segregated Witness (SegWit)BIP-141 menjelaskan lapisan konsensus SegWit BIP-173 menjelaskan format alamat Bech32 PrologArtikel ini merupakan artikel terakhir ane yang membahas alamat-alamat bitcoin. Sampai episode ini, mari kita renungkan kembali apa-apa saja yang sudah dibahas: 1. Format alamat Pay to Public Key Hash (P2PKH) >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459504.msg39933979#msg39933979Pay to Script Hash (P2SH) >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459504.msg42730207#msg42730207 (bonus sebenarnya tidak ingin ane bahas karena script & multisig sudah tidak sesuai dengan kata "untuk pemula" pada judul thread ini) 2. Mekanisme pembuatan privkey-pubkey Random (nondeterministik) >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459504.msg39933979#msg39933979Deterministik >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459504.msg41403564#msg41403564 & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459504.msg43552511#msg43552511Pada artikel terakhir ini kita akan membahas update terbaru (sebenarnya sudah diimplementasikan tahun lalu), yaitu Segregated Witness (SegWit). Latar Belakang SegWitBitcoin memiliki kapasitas blok hanya 1MB yang seringkali penuh pada pertengahan 2017. Terdapat dua cara untuk memperbaiki blok yang penuh ini, yaitu dengan (1) menambah kapasitas blok atau (2) membuat transaksi di dalam blok lebih efisien. Singkat cerita Bitcoin Cash (BCH) memilih menggunakan opsi 1 dan Bitcoin (BTC) memilih opsi 2. Data transaksi di dalam blok berupa input, signature, dan output. Signature ini ternyata mengambil ruang data yang paling besar di antara data-data lainnya. Sehingga signature kemudian dipisahkan dari blok utama dan ditempatkan pada blok "tambahan." Akibatnya blok utama yang sebesar 1MB tersebut dapat menyimpan transaksi yang jauh lebih besar dari sebelumnya. Seperti biasa artikel ini berfokus pada pembuatan alamat-alamat tersebut (bukan teorinya karena banyak di internet). Format Alamat SegWit Pay to Witness Public Key Hash (P2WPKH): P2SH-P2WPKH, Bech32-P2WPKHAlamat Segwit bitcoin selalu diawali dengan string "3" atau "bc1" yang menandakan format yang digunakan apakah P2SH ataukah Bech32. Bech32 sendiri hanyalah format yang mempermudah agar alamat bitcoin dapat dibaca dan ditulis oleh manusia. Perhatikan alamat ini: P2SH-P2WPKH: 3Aj3og72RnL8MMRwKFDKJNdrnZ4SPgYQD7 Bech32-P2WPKH: bc1qy76cjxcpmgkmwnx7z6y6j732e03r6ha3wqfasl Kedua alamat di atas memiliki private key yang sama, hanya beda di encodingnya saja, menurut ane yang lebih enak dibaca memang yang Bech32 karena tidak ada huruf kapital. #1 P2SH-P2WPKHAlamat ini adalah alamat SegWit P2WPKH yang "dibungkus" dalam format P2SH. Alamat ini memakai public key hash yang mirip dengan penjelasan P2PKH yang digabungkan dengan P2SH (link pada prolog). Menggunakan pubkey yang dikompres pada pembahasan sebelumnya yaitu "025C0DE3B9C8AB18DD04E3511243EC2952002DBFADC864B9628910169D9B9B00EC" kita dapat membuat alamat SegWit P2SH-P2WPKH dengan cara: 1. HASH-160 (SHA-256 yang diikuti dengan RIPEMD-160) dari pubkey SHA-256: cf7262820b1bdc3e6401e082d0390346afc00ceba0baa37a90133950bc120424 RIPEMD-160: 27b5891b01da2db74cde1689a97a2acbe23d5fb1 2. Tambahkan kode 0x0014 yang menandakan P2WPKH001427b5891b01da2db74cde1689a97a2acbe23d5fb1 Perhatikan bahwa pubkey hash kemudian diperlakukan seperti script hash pada langkah-langkah berikutnya. 3. HASH-160 dari script hash no 2 SHA-256: 861b2e6d0ab3548edd1334c3af000adf3d681890692de425e1c33b31e443133a RIPEMD-160: 631b88dde960d66d7fa7ea2a3c1c084297143ba0 4. Tambahkan versi 0x05 (P2SH)05631b88dde960d66d7fa7ea2a3c1c084297143ba0 5. Gunakan SHA-256 dua kali (SHA256D) 6bbc36c229c3ebbfa10f18dc33a9eb73f09fc479d8022f5d048b317df42bd171 6. Ambil 4 byte sebagai checksum dan tambahkan di akhir hasil nomor 4 05631b88dde960d66d7fa7ea2a3c1c084297143ba06bbc36c2 7. Ubah ke Base58 3Aj3og72RnL8MMRwKFDKJNdrnZ4SPgYQD7 Alamat ini adalah alamat Native SegWit P2WPKH yang "dibungkus" dalam format Bech32. Alamat ini memakai public key hash yang mirip dengan penjelasan P2PKH akan tetapi alamat "bc1" ini diencode dengan cara yang berbeda dengan alamat "3". Menggunakan HASH-160 dari pubkey yang dikompres di atas "27b5891b01da2db74cde1689a97a2acbe23d5fb1" kita dapat membuat alamat Native SegWit Bech32 dengan menggunakan berbagai library (ane pakai library PHP). Fungsi dalam library tersebut membutuhkan 3 buah input, yaitu: - Human-readable part (hrp): string "bc" untuk mainnet dan "tb" untuk testnet. - Version: versi 0 untuk P2WPKH - Data: adalah script hash atau pubkey hash <?php
use function BitWasp\Bech32\encodeSegwit;
$hrp = "bc";
$version = 0;
$data = pack("H*" , "27b5891b01da2db74cde1689a97a2acbe23d5fb1");
$result = encodeSegwit($hrp, $version, $data);
echo $result;
?> Hasilnya: bc1qy76cjxcpmgkmwnx7z6y6j732e03r6ha3wqfasl Terkait P2SH-P2WPKH apakah "001427b5891b01da2db74cde1689a97a2acbe23d5fb1" merupakan script yang valid karena kita tahu bahwa kode tsb adalah pubkey hash yang hanya ditambahkan 0x0014? Mari kita coba dengan perintah decodescript pada bitcoin core. decodescript 001427b5891b01da2db74cde1689a97a2acbe23d5fb1 Hasilnya: {
"result": {
"asm": "0 27b5891b01da2db74cde1689a97a2acbe23d5fb1",
"reqSigs": 1,
"type": "witness_v0_keyhash",
"addresses": [
"bc1qy76cjxcpmgkmwnx7z6y6j732e03r6ha3wqfasl"
],
"p2sh": "3Aj3og72RnL8MMRwKFDKJNdrnZ4SPgYQD7"
},
"error": null,
"id": null
}Yak, ternyata valid dan semua alamat juga valid  Referensi:https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Segregated_Witnesshttps://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0141.mediawikihttps://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0173.mediawikiLibrary:https://github.com/Bit-Wasp/bech32PenutupAne kira edukasi untuk newbie cukup sampai di sini. Kalau lebih dari ini ane juga tidak mampu Thread ini tetap ane buka kalau-kalau ada newbie yang bertanya, entah bulan depan atau tahun depan atau 10 tahun ke depan. Ane yakin akan ada pertanyaan dari newbie yang stuck dan kepentok nyasar ke thread ini. Sekian dan terima kasih.
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Agan-agan mastah, mau tanya nih bagaimana sebaiknya untuk bisa mencegah sensorship OP dalam self-mod thread? Suhu-suhu, ane sebagai newbie sebetulnya sangat setuju dengan adanya kewajiban self-moderation, bahkan mungkin lebih baik kalau fitur tersebut diterapkan tidak hanya untuk ANN altcoin saja. Dari pengalaman ane membuat topik kemarin yang kemudian dipenuhi spam, memang sepertinya di sini lebih baik kalau semuanya self-moderation.
Tapi hal tersebut bukan berarti bebas risiko, bagaimana bila hal berikut ini terjadi:
1. Sensor di ANN: posting yang berupa mengingatkan scam, tuduhan scam yang kuat, kritik, dll., lalu kemudian dihapus oleh OP.
2. Sensor di General: posting yang tidak sependapat kemudian dihapus oleh OP.
Kalau saya pribadi sih terkait masalah sensor menyensor sepertinya kalau di lokal Bahasa Indonesia masih gak masalah untuk saat ini, nanti kalau mungkin kualitas posting sudah membaik baru gak usah self-moderation biar gak dituduh sensorsip.
Ternyata sifat paranoid ane sudah terbukti, yang bagian no. 2 ane tadi sudah mengalami di https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4913359.0http://archive.is/kovmE#selection-4185.0-4251.211 |
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sebenernya sih pake stake/sign message bukan lebih aman, tapi sebagai bukti kalo kita yang punya itu akun ketika di hack. (tetep aja masih bisa diambil alih) jadi alangkah baiknya kalo ditambah pake google authenticator. seperti yang sudah diterapkan di exchange. sebagai pengamanan awal, baru kemudian diisi sign message juga buat jada jaga kalo masih bisa dijebol juga
Ane mengerti maksud agan dalam praktiknya terkait login, yang ane maksud dalam statement ane adalah signed message hampir mustahil untuk dibobol. 2FA/OTP SMS memang lebih baik daripada tidak ada sama sekali, akan tetapi tingkat pengamanan masih kalah dibanding dengan signed message bitcoin. https://www.computerweekly.com/tip/Limitations-of-two-factor-authentication-2FA-technologyhttps://www.theverge.com/2017/7/10/15946642/two-factor-authentication-online-security-messAs I understand, it's too difficult to integrate into current version of SMF.
Not only do I believe you're right, it probably is too difficult or too risky to integrate into the forum in it's current state, but there is already an endless sea of "Account lost" threads, where people reset their passwords and lose their accounts, simply forget their passwords or goof their recovery questions. I think that until we have a decent solution for these people, adding 2-FA will only serve to exacerbate this problem. Then, you have to consider that even allowing user stats, images, new-tab and other features have proven to be security flaws to be exploited; I'm assuming that 2-FA would be no different. This forum is not short of malicious users, and anything that can be used to lock, access or block your access will be pushed to the limits. In the context you describe, being tricked into logging into a fake site, this would not help either. You would simply use your 2-FA to log into their proxy, they would forward this input to the real forum and then be logged into your account just as easily. T-FA is fine Theymos-Factor AuthorizationTl; dr 2FA malah akan menambah masalah keamanan forum ini dan membutuhkan update forum sebelum bisa diimplementasikan. |
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<...> Maka dari itu saya tertarik menjadi developer blockchain, apalagi saat ini developer blockchain masih sangat jarang di indonesia 1. kalau ingin menjadi blockchain developer apakah ada rekomendasi situs bejalar online ?Seperti udacity.com yang baru membuka blockchain developer class tahun ini 2. Peluang kerja menjadi Blockchain developer di indonesia ? <...> Kalau yang ane perhatikan gan: 1. Belajar yang paling baik itu dengan ikut terlibat dalam proyek-proyek open-source di github. Banyak koin-koin kecil yang kekurangan developer sehingga apabila agan tertarik untuk berkontribusi akan sangat disambut baik. Namun kalau bahasa yang digunakan kalau tidak salah C, Go/Rust, Solidity (ETH). 2. Terkait dengan no.1 ketika agan sudah memiliki banyak kontribusi di GitHub, maka popularitas agan akan meningkat. Nah, hal ini akan membuat agan banyak dicari-cari untuk berbagai proyek dengan bayaran yang fantastis di tingkat global. Lebih baik fokus di Global gan karena di Indonesia blockchain masih belum banyak digunakan. Bacaan menarik: https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbookhttps://github.com/ethereumbook/ethereumbookhttps://github.com/ProgrammingBlockchain/ProgrammingBlockchain |
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Karena akun berpangkat tinggi pada bitcointalk tergolong berharga, maka sudah tentu rawan hack/phising/scam dll.. Tips mengamankan akun bitcointalk sudah dijelaskan di forum global https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4920096.0<...> 1. Bookmark https://bitcointalk.org/ and always login from the bookmark. Avoid bitcointalk.to, thebitcointalk.net or any other phishing site. 2. Use new email address. 3. Use new password that you don't use for any other websites, with sufficient length using a combination of letter/capital characters, numbers, and special characters. 4. You could set a secret question and its answer for password reset but most likely it increases the risk of your account to be hacked/locked. 5. Do not download untrusted softwares and keep your device clean from malware. 6. Keep your device and browser updated to the latest version. 7. Stake your Bitcoin address. <...> Terjemahan: 1. Bookmark https://bitcointalk.org/ dan selalu login dari bookmark. Hindari bitcointalk.to, thebitcointalk.net atau situs phishing yang lain. 2. Gunakan alamat email baru. 3. Gunakan password yang tidak anda gunakan pada situs yang lain dengan panjang dan kombinasi angka/huruf kecil/huruf kapital/karakter khusus yang memadai. 4. Agan dapat mengatur pertanyaan rahasia dan jawabannya untuk reset password, akan tetapi hal itu malah akan meningkatkan risiko akun dibajak/dikunci. 5. Jangan mengunduh software yang tidak dapat dipercaya dan jaga device agan untuk tetap bersih dari malware. 6. Selalu perbaharui device dan browser ke versi terbaru. 7. Stake bitcoin address.Khusus untuk nomor 7, ane sarankan untuk agan yang sudah berpangkat member ke atas untuk melakukan hal tersebut. Sebenarnya signed message bitcoin lebih aman dari 2FA ataupun nomor ponsel (CMIIW). Stake di https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0Contohnya: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Date: June 02, 2018
URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1574226
Hello, this is mu_enrico.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1PKoPYtPCyg5V45JW2XhK8gkfuut7BXJAf
H4wtpZyRv+AuZ67CXiv0JcPuDZOf+wY5GHT+ch4qD1FvaXFHI4kW8BSpSk+Nj8nSk3pW+4FoGyvBlgnvbE4IaAQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- |
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Well, as a live spectator of this show. I immediately regret my decision to gave @Nagesh021 a real-life lesson. But at least, they both literally made me laugh so hard. #1 The Elder #2 The Pervert #3 The Economist #4 F*ckin mean (with Ooww sound) #5 The denial |
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<...>sedih gan lihat diskusi bitcoin indonesia hanya di page one saja, itupun ada yang dilock juga, kecuali bahan diskusi sampai 3-5 page kebelakang, baru bisa dikritisi.<...>
Ane lebih sedih gan kalau diskusinya gak nyambung dan ngaco. Lebih baik sedikit tapi berkualitas daripada banyak tapi malah bikin malu. <...>lebih baik mengajari/memberi solusi dari nol gan daripada memberantas, yang namanya spammer gak akan habis bisa karena faktor sengaja atau bahkan ilmu masih sedikit.
kalo kaya gini terus ga akan ada perkembangan positif gan di sub lokal, nggak ada edukasinya kalau selalu fokus tentang judgement.<...>
Sebenarnya sebelum posting, member baru sebaiknya belajar sendiri dulu karena forum ini bukan forum lounge seperti di K*sk*s, tetapi lebih serius membahas mengenai cryptocurrency (khususnya bitcoin). Kalau tentang thread edukasi ane kira sudah banyak ya gan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2996986 >> Dasar-dasar kriptografi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3664755 >> Electrum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4459504 >> Alamat bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3221263 >> PGP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3092593 >> Sign message bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=1878246;sa=showPosts >> Khusus mining liat aja di history thread agan @abhiseshakana Memang masih banyak yang belum tercover, mungkin ane bakal menambah thread baru (atau atas ane mungkin?) ditunggu saja. Pelaporan/hukuman itu juga wujud dari meningkatkan mutu sub lokal kok. Aniway...
Hasil report ane:  Moga-moga masih bisa terus akurat. Saya coba patroli di sini deh agan @joniboini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=768254Mulai dari yang kena necrobump 101-103, plus skimming spammer-spammer jaman dulu (cuma ane report kalo masih aktif nyepam). Perkiraan selesai 12 Sept 2018. |
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Well, it could be even simpler. Simply don't accept newbies or Jr. members into campaigns of any sort, and they'll have no choice but to either step up and level up, or gtfo.
What about disabling signature for junior members so that they need to get 10 merits (become a member) to enable it? In my opinion, one merit is just too little to have an impact. Also, this method will affect current juniors, not only the new one and no need to airdropped 1 merit. |
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Dude, you need to chill a bit. You need to also put yourself in his (and other seniors) shoes. This spam-fest is really annoying and it's so difficult to differentiate between a newbie who really want to learn and a born shitposter (and don't forget a bot). It took me months to understand what's going on with this forum. Yes, some high-rank members tend to be hostile and disrespectful. Just befriend the good person, and ignore the assh*les. This is the internet! What exactly do you want? |
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<...>We're working on ways to stop them but in the meantime we have disabled the purchase of lottery tickets with free winnings.
Suppose I had 0 balance and then deposit 10k satoshis and use it to buy 10k lottery tickets, can I then roll and use my faucet giveaway balance to buy lottery tickets? |
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Agree with the comments above. The problem with PoS is that the reward is far too high for the "work" done. I mean in PoS system, wallets with stacked coins still perform the block creation but don't require that much computation power. In this case, maybe Peercoin as d5000 said, will get away with it since the reward is very low. Hybrid PoW/PoS might work if the reward is fair between PoW and PoS validators, but usually, this tends to favor PoS. This situation may explain: <...>
3 Hybrid POW/POS
4 POS
5 Bankrupt
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Nakamoto PoW uses electricity for computation power to mine a block. It doesn't mean that the system cannot use other "work" to create a block. And in order to this "work" to be successful, users/"miners" must perceive the reward as fair. Maybe it still requires "outside" element, or not? |
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The Catholic church needs to reform in this modern day. It just doesn't make any sense that a priest cannot get married like any sane person. That's why in my opinion, only pedophile and gay will become a priest. Just allow marriage so they won't gather in the church and misuse God's name to do molestation. I've watched so many documentaries about this issue and it's so disturbing.
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Maaf gan, kebetulan ane memang baru patroli di thread agan. Menurut ane thread agan belum pantas mendapatkan merit, karena tidak banyak memberikan nilai manfaat dan pengetahuan bagi pembaca. Mari kita bedah postingan agan: Mengapa Penerapan Blockchain di Bidang Pertanian dianggap Penting...?
"Pengembangan blockchain dan teknologi digital tidak diragukan lagi akan dapat membantu mendorong perekonomian Indonesia melalui penyederhanaan Birokrasi di tanah air, memotong biaya transaksi, dan membuat proses transaksi menjadi lebih cepat" Ujar Chatib Basri yang notabone Eks Menteri Keuangan Republik Indonesia masa Kabinet Indonesia Bersatu jilid-II.
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1. "Penyederhanaan Birokrasi di tanah air" >> contohnya bagaimana? 2. Memotong biaya transaksi? Biaya transaksi bitcoin lebih mahal dari biaya transfer sesama bank (gratis), bisa agan jelaskan? 3. Membuat proses transaksi menjadi lebih cepat? Transfer sesama bank online itu instan, bisa agan jelaskan lebih cepatnya di mana? Kesimpulan: mau eks-mentri atau eks-presiden pun kalau mengeluarkan statement harus agan analisa, kalo ngawur dan cuma sifatnya generik (umum) ya ga ada nilainya. Menurut ane statement dari quote di atas tidak bernilai.Agan juga harus bisa membedakan antara blockchain dan mata uang kripto. <...>
Tak Hanya Bitcoin, Blockchain Juga Bisa Bermanfaat untuk Pertanian
Dengan menggunakan blockchain sebagai teknologi di balik pertukaran data terdesentralisasi pada sektor Pangan dan Pertanian, berupa Hara dapat mengatasi masalah ketersediaan informasi asimetris, yang menghambat bisnis dalam rantai pasokan agar lebih efektif dan efisien dimasa depan.
hal ini perlu dilakukan mengingat rendahnya Efisiensi mata Rantai Distribusi antar Petani ke Konsument juga mengakibatkan para petani Indonesia sering harus menghadapi kerugian dalam hal penurunan kualitas Pasca panen sebesar.
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Dari tadi agan hanya membahas mengenai blockchain, lalu kenapa tiba-tiba ada kalimat "Tak Hanya Bitcoin, Blockchain Juga Bisa Bermanfaat untuk Pertanian" seolah-olah agan sudah menyampaikan manfaat bitcoin bagi pertanian? Lalu apa itu frasa "berupa Hara", apa itu Hara? Kok bisa mengatasi masalah ketersediaan informasi asimetris? Mana sumber-sumber yang menjelaskan "rendahnya Efisiensi mata Rantai Distribusi antar Petani ke Konsument"? Bagian mana dari rantai distribusi tersebut yang tidak efisien? Contoh kasusnya? "penurunan kualitas Pasca panen sebesar." Berapa? Kesimpulan: paragraf penjelasan agan di atas termasuk buruk, ane tebak cuma copy-paste dari potongan-potongan artikel yang tidak bermutu di internet. <...>
Discusi :
1). Bagaimana Pendapan Agan, akankah Penerapan Blockchai pada Bidang pangan dan pertanian itu Perlu...?
2). Apakah langkah ini akan berhasil...?
mengingat pada umumnya Petani Indonesia masih kurang mememahi dan menguasai kemajuan Digital Money dan Blockchain.
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1. Pembaca seharusnya tidak dapat menentukan perlu tidaknya penerapan blockchain dari hanya membaca postingan agan. 2. Langkah apa yang berhasil? Agan tidak menjelaskan langkah-langkah apapun. Kesimpulan: diskusi yang terjadi tidak akan bisa bermutu kalau tidak ada informasi yang cukup dan akurat. Thread agan hanya akan memancing postingan SPAM, 18 SPAM sudah ane laporkan ke moderator. Saran ane sebelum membuat thread, agan harus lebih dahulu mengetahui dan memahami apa yang agan tulis biar bisa memberikan nilai manfaat dan dapat merit. Oiya, gak usah dikasih warna-warna teksnya, bikin pusing. Tolong ini thread di-lock saja gan @Blue408 biar tidak jadi saran spam. Thanks |
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what happened to this project, 100X down?
Is team still active, whats on the roadmap, why so much devaluation in terms of price?
The market is bearish atm, so it will affect all crypto not only Ella. AFAIK the team has implemented many things from their roadmap. In fact, they successfully hard fork Ella chain to implement Byzantium and WASM. Read update here https://ellaism.org/news-update/<...>
No one active here to answer if team is still active or project is not having sufficient team?
The team is more active on https://discord.gg/gz9tURY |
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