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61  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Re-Launch Mixero Bitcoin Mixer Signature Campaign | Sr+ up-to $125/w on: April 03, 2023, 02:24:20 AM
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63  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do if bitcoin crash? on: April 02, 2023, 03:06:08 AM
Talking about fate if bitcoin crashes, the first thing I will see is is it just the price crash or crash due to conflict with the government? If the price crashes, surely one day it can rise but if it sack with government that is dangerous. But I'm also not too sad because I don't save or invest a lot in bitcoin.Honestly, my main goal is to become a bounty hunter and if bitcoin crashes, it will definitely have a big impact on the bounty campaign and I don't want that to happen. I still want to be here until I get rich.

Just a suggestion for all friends
Its okay for us to invest, trade, or bounty campaigns while crypto still exists and is worth it. But do it wisely, with calculation, and don't be in a hurry just because hype of the 1 coin that is being talked about on social media platforms. Do the research carefully, with a small number first it's okay, it's sure to be safe.
Bitcoin faced many time conflict with government and drop drastically but always have chance for recovery back to higher price, I don't sure how serious conflict between Bitcoin and government because always have chance for up to higher price. I sure with cryptocurrency keep exist for longer time after more than ten years release to public until right now many people enthusiast for investing in Bitcoin.

Don't be afraid with many wrong argument about Bitcoin will crash and back to zero price, many people and investor waiting for if Bitcoin really have lower price they are preparing invest with huge amount later. Not clearly argument using when talking about Bitcoin possibility crash and have lower price one day later, have been last several years with this issues talking but Bitcoin keep stable on higher price.
I'm not too worried about it mate, because bitcoin started from a low value too. What I'm worried about is if the government's conflict with bitcoin occurs and the effect is access denied to crypto either to exchanges or wallets in all countries in the world, that's what I'm afraid of.

I hope not, but if that happens will all the members here and all bitcoinners in the world boycott?
64  Economy / Economics / Re: Money as a store of value... on: April 02, 2023, 03:01:08 AM
It's okay pal, we learn daily, and at times, our minds might slip on some things, and they are what we could naturally correct on a second thought. However, many more things than gold and silver could be valuable, and land, some types of clothes, and other valuables could. Also, dried foods and palm oil for example could even be a store of value, some are kept for certain seasons in which their prices would have skyrocketed, which could then be exchanged for more goods instead of the old value of the goods they were exchanging them for.
Yeah, I'm starting to relate to your explanation about items that can be "expensive" in certain seasons. Perhaps it could be a means of seasonal bartering. for example, the wool-producing tropics bartered with fish from winter regions.
65  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Story] April Mop di bitcointalk forum [1 april 2023, New Captcha Required] on: April 01, 2023, 11:58:12 AM

Ini percobaan post ke 2 dihari ini, syarat coinnya beda jauh dari yang pertama tadi. Kalo tadi 18 coins, yang sekarang ini cuma 5 coins. Ya lumayan lah buat lucu2an di April Mop, ya walaupun pastinya masih ada beberapa member diforum ini yang takut akan hal ini.   Grin
Saya harus dapat 33 koin untuk post di Gambling.   Angry Baru bisa 4-5 koin eh nyungsep atau nabrak mulu, butuh ketelatenan dan perasaan buat ngeklik ngeklik mouse. Atau ada trik lain om,biar bisa lolos.  Di lokal ini harus 7 koin dan yee bisa lolos.  Grin
Percobaan pertama gagal tapi ane gas post ajalah, percobaan kedua berhasil. tapi apa benar ini april fool ya atau rules ini akan terus ada sampai nanti? Huh

agak susah sih soalnya gamenya flappy bird, coba kalau temple run atau zuma gitu pasi lebih mudah  Grin
66  Economy / Economics / Re: Money as a store of value... on: April 01, 2023, 11:54:36 AM
Before there was money, in ancient times they still used the barter system, whatever the barter was, it depended on the agreement of both parties. But the barter system cann't be declared a store of value, because it has no future value and only has value in the past. So that currency emerged as a tools of payment, a store of value, and as a medium for pricing an item.
Barter was the beginning of transactions. The first change from the barter system continued with coin or metal currency. Along with the times, the system again changed from coin or metal currency to paper money and applies to this day which is better known as fiat.

Paper or fiat money cannot store value due to inflation and has been proven over the years. So with the progress of the world, it is time to enter a new change related to currency and the world is adjusting to digital and Bitcoin is one of the currencies that can store value.
Refers to a transaction tool that has value, there is also a small possibility of returning to the barter system. But it's also a little difficult because for example using gold, if the transaction is small then it's difficult to solve it.

I agree that if paper money has a high inflation potential, maybe they will switch to digital currency and bitcoin will be an alternative.
67  Economy / Economics / Re: Money as a store of value... on: April 01, 2023, 11:36:18 AM
I beg to disagree with you on the barter system of old as not a store of value, what they use in exchange for another could indeed be a store of value, we should not overemphasise money, it's just a liquid asset used in exchange for what we trade, just like the olden days. They trade something for something, and what they trade is valuable, which is why they could trade it. There are many other assets you could bring for another, you may store them as well depending on the longevity of that thing.
Maybe more to the age of the system. I apologize if there is a mistake, because if the barter tool used is gold, until now gold still has a high value and can be said to be a store of value. Maybe what I said refers to a barter system other than gold, silver, or other valuables which are no longer used as valuable investment items.
68  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do if bitcoin crash? on: March 31, 2023, 02:02:10 AM
Talking about fate if bitcoin crashes, the first thing I will see is is it just the price crash or crash due to conflict with the government? If the price crashes, surely one day it can rise but if it sack with government that is dangerous. But I'm also not too sad because I don't save or invest a lot in bitcoin.Honestly, my main goal is to become a bounty hunter and if bitcoin crashes, it will definitely have a big impact on the bounty campaign and I don't want that to happen. I still want to be here until I get rich.

Just a suggestion for all friends
Its okay for us to invest, trade, or bounty campaigns while crypto still exists and is worth it. But do it wisely, with calculation, and don't be in a hurry just because hype of the 1 coin that is being talked about on social media platforms. Do the research carefully, with a small number first it's okay, it's sure to be safe.
69  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How much you have earned through crypto referral on: March 31, 2023, 01:50:34 AM
In general, referral programs in the crypto field are not very profitable due to the limited number of users in this field. If you are a beginner, I advise you to focus on an easier niche.
I'm also not too sure whether I can get a lot of profit just from referrals. In the past, I often tried programs such as referrals, watching ads, free mining with time limits, but ended up wasting time because no one paid. I think a crypto program that's literally free that's worth it is an airdrop, I've gotten it.
70  Economy / Economics / Re: Money as a store of value... on: March 31, 2023, 01:44:42 AM
Before there was money, in ancient times they still used the barter system, whatever the barter was, it depended on the agreement of both parties. But the barter system cann't be declared a store of value, because it has no future value and only has value in the past. So that currency emerged as a tools of payment, a store of value, and as a medium for pricing an item.
71  Economy / Economics / Re: Is there a place in the world you could live like a king via sig campaigns? on: March 30, 2023, 02:31:38 AM

Basically, I think campaign earning will be able to give members an average living conditions  in developing countries that has low inflation rate and the value of dollars against thier local currency is high. There is no Western nation that campaign earnings can sustain a participant except it is added with another job 
Your statement is very related to the reality. I live in a developing country and it's really worth the income from the signature campaign, but that was 4 years ago. I took a break from 2020 and have just started the last year because I see that there are still many  members and bounty participants who are enthusiastic about the campaign.

Highlight the main topic of the OP and your statement, meaning if you want to live in a country like a king via a signature campaign, then live in a developing country which has many wonderful islands to visit.
72  Economy / Economics / Re: Is some certain lifestyle a waste of money and time ? on: March 30, 2023, 02:19:33 AM
If the minimum wage per month is still below $300, think clearly and don't do such stupid things. Still not married I wouldn't do something silly like that,  let alone already have a family. They call it's fun? is it fun to drink? Why not train yourself to develop or at least do a hobby? But when the salary is over $1000 per month, I think it's okay to drink for pleasure once a week.
It is okay to drink once a month as long as you just spend a few dollars on it because it is good for your health, but that doesn't mean that you will spend so much and also do it on a weekly basis. Before, when my salary was $300, I still drank for fun, and there's nothing wrong with that, but only once a month, and sometimes nothing because I was short. As long as you ain't spending so much, then it's okay, but if it will affect your family, then it is not good.
Actually if you can still control yourself, drank once a month for fun with small portions like you do will definitely be fine and enjoyable, even if it's once a week. But if you get carried away and finally ask to drank more and more? Because drank is very fun especially with best friends. The point is that we ourselves know better about our financial management, with our income, we are able to control our expenses.
73  Economy / Economics / Re: Poor and Rich on: March 30, 2023, 02:11:27 AM
We all know the quote "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" I heard this quote when I was in high school now I'm grown up. I always wondering why?

Is it that the rich have already wealth the day they are born? Have savings and investment?

While the poor doesn't have any of those?

The point is I started in low before having some savings and investment. I'm not saying I'm already rich but I can say that I'm better than before. Can you guys share your ideas with this topic.
Why are the rich getting richer? Because for them the money will work for them. With lots of money, investment, business, everything the rich can run because they have large capital and ultimately profits continue to increase.

Why are the poor getting poorer? Because they don't dare to take risks for new opportunities. With their less income, they choose to buy their daily needs instead of opening a new business.

Born into a rich or poor family, it is a privilege that we can't choose. We can only respond to any situation that occurs wisely.
I think this lies in our environment so that it influences the mindset. so that many rich people are getting richer, and poor people will remain poor, because they associate with the poor and do not want to experience change, so that their lives will continue to stagnate and be in continuous poverty. therefore we must choose an environment to associate with, even though we are poor but if we associate with people who are rich in mindset, then we will have broad insight to become rich
Before going out to associate, of course we will think about where do we start and get out. If born into a poor family, can they afford to associate with rich people in cafes or expensive restaurants? Of course, not. But the rich people can associate with the poor at the roadside. that already explains that the privileges owned by the rich play a very big role in his career.

Can the poor not change? Of course you can, by working optimally, collecting money for capital, then daring to take risks for business.
74  Economy / Economics / Re: less risk or big profit? on: March 29, 2023, 02:05:01 AM

The less riskier from Real Estate and cryptocurrency is Real Estate, but less risk,, less reward. The risk that come with the higher volatility of cryptocurrency makes the profit that can be gotten bigger. Will you go for less risk, or big profit?


It doesn't mean that real estate has a small risk, everything has a big risk if we don't know the knowledge. Call it the property business, stock investment, all very risky if we only rely on capital without proper knowledge and strategy. I only have any views related to investment and business, the risk is big. But why is crypto a bigger risk? Crypto has not been legalized by governments around the world (maybe still some countries). It's fluctuation rate is also higher and difficult to predict.

If i have to choose, of course the big profit and if in this discussion it is crypto, I choose crypto.
75  Economy / Economics / Re: Poor and Rich on: March 29, 2023, 01:56:02 AM
We all know the quote "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" I heard this quote when I was in high school now I'm grown up. I always wondering why?

Is it that the rich have already wealth the day they are born? Have savings and investment?

While the poor doesn't have any of those?

The point is I started in low before having some savings and investment. I'm not saying I'm already rich but I can say that I'm better than before. Can you guys share your ideas with this topic.
Why are the rich getting richer? Because for them the money will work for them. With lots of money, investment, business, everything the rich can run because they have large capital and ultimately profits continue to increase.

Why are the poor getting poorer? Because they don't dare to take risks for new opportunities. With their less income, they choose to buy their daily needs instead of opening a new business.

Born into a rich or poor family, it is a privilege that we can't choose. We can only respond to any situation that occurs wisely.
76  Economy / Economics / Re: Is some certain lifestyle a waste of money and time ? on: March 29, 2023, 01:49:59 AM
If the minimum wage per month is still below $300, think clearly and don't do such stupid things. Still not married I wouldn't do something silly like that,  let alone already have a family. They call it's fun? is it fun to drink? Why not train yourself to develop or at least do a hobby? But when the salary is over $1000 per month, I think it's okay to drink for pleasure once a week.
77  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us? on: March 28, 2023, 02:02:32 AM
Depending on us, they will only help a little to create jobs in various ways, one of which is bringing in foreign investors. The government is also only tasked with regulating the circulation of the local currency to prevent inflation. The government will also only regulate security and order for everyone who wants to run a business. So the main actors to end poverty are ourselves and the government is just the people behind the scenes.
78  Economy / Economics / Re: Where do we go from here on: March 28, 2023, 01:48:03 AM
There was a time where Elon musk is afraid of Robots with AI capabilities, saying they are dangerous to humans, there was a rumour about some incident where a robot threatened to crush him, I don't know how true is this, but not too long ago even the Microsoft boss Bill Gates is very concerned about the harms that AI could bring on humanity, saying something like AI might decides that humans are a threat. We do we go from here?
Don't think too far ahead mate, it's just some people's worries. Actually AI could have cooperated with humans. For example, so far the factory industry uses automatic machines in working on the production of goods or packing, while the humans who work only control the machines. That's already called an AI, right? I said maybe this is different because in this era AI is in the form of robots that resemble humans and it looks scary if they can doing something according to their own instincts.
79  Economy / Economics / Re: Planning avoids unnecessary expenses on: March 28, 2023, 01:42:15 AM
Actually a person's lifestyle will change when their income increases. Who initially spent $ 100 per month, could have increased to $ 500 per month if you have a lot. It cannot be denied because it is human instinct, to want to buy whatever you want even though it is only a secondary need. It's a different story if you only get "surprise" money from bitcoin results or short-term investment trading, if you live a luxurious lifestyle then the possibility of returning to zero is very large as told by the OP. But if the business is already running, have a steady job with high salaries, usually people don't really consider the little things.
80  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: March 27, 2023, 11:52:24 AM
Even though the risks are big, we all know that, but there are still opportunities. But it's better not to do that let alone a beginner and someone who doesn't have a steady job yet. Because if there is a risk of a market crash, what will he do with the loan? Whereas the loan will provide him with bills every month? But if you already have a steady job let say with a salary of $ 300/month, take out a loan of $ 3000 for bitcoin investment and take a bill of $ 100 every month for 3 years, I think it still makes sense.
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