and again to show the pre 95 state of a miner that had one board with 8 VRMs and lower wattage against the other boards that were left to run higher and hotter  Those regulators are speced for a max current of 40A each.... Has anyone pointed out that's a good suspect for the VRMs and caps failing? |
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I think everyone is getting wayyyy ahead of themselves. HashFast's intention (be clear at the moment or not) seems to have the tone of "we will be taking care of you" - I know we all want details/specifics now now now but that's not the case.. at the moment.. I'm more than confident that HF will come up with a solid and thought out solution for the MPP. How about we just wait for an official announcement instead of taking a statement, context or not, and turning it into something it isn't?
Id be fine with waiting, if it weren't for the fact they are selling it today. If you like, you can order a miner protection program from me as well. i will "take care of you" for only $2000. Details will be provided after you paid. The point you are trying to make is very cute.. Except you aren't HashFast with a backbone and history. You and I both know they aren't going to screw anyone over with under delivering an MPP program. Why not? What's fucking stopping them?
They only take bitcoin for a reasonThey are currently more along the lines of Avalon than KNCminer. Having a explicitly detailed and explained miner "protection" plan will mitigate this counterparty risk at least a little bit |
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Any word of when John K might be back? Is he still in the process of moving or?
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Where did you get your numbers for 36$ per 28nm ASIC Manufacturing Costs?
I'd expect that to be behind several NDAs..
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So it's a free up to 400% free hashing power, not a single cent extra you have to spend? Seriously?
Why are people saying It's "JUST CHIPS" then? Or do you mean you have to get a power supply?
basically the entire value of HF hinges on this MPP
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What the hell?
The MPP means they just send you an ASIC?
Uh??? Documentation for it? Reference designs maybe?
That's basically the entire ordeal and clusterfuck that the avalon chips were, maybe worse. You'd have to design/acquire a PCB, pick & place assemble it, and integrate it into the system, horribly expensive and inefficient to do in small numbers. god help you if you have to go through a group buy sort of thing.
Please tell me I’m missing something here because this has red flags all over it.
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so they mislead us (lied) about the MPP to get us to invest in them
the MPP was always just raw chips. no biggie as far as i'm concerned. they aren't into selling the modules for a huge profit. Wait, what the fucking shit, they just send you an ASIC? Uh?  ?? Documentation for it? Reference designs maybe? That's basically the entire ordeal and clusterfuck that the avalon chips were, maybe worse. You'd have to design/acquire a PCB, pick & place assemble it, and integrate it into the system, horribly expensive and inefficient to do in small numbers. god help you if you have to go through a group buy sort of thing. Please tell me I’m missing something here because this has red flags all over it. |
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next difficulty 230 (4days to go) estimate 260 (70 mill jump)
Saturn @ 260 Gh/s = .5024 coins per day
Best scenario I can see is 21 coins back (maybe a couple more in the months after) which leaves me with a probable loss of $1500
Saturn was $4800 incl VAT +shipping.
Anyone who is still waiting is worse off of course unless bitcoin price goes crazy
That VAT is killer, almost a full 1000$ more than what non-VAT countries paid |
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Saturn ...1.3 btc in 48 hours, even with all the problems I had  ** I'm not liking slush's "Varidiff" function... Its a tad low at times, and Id like to try another pool... **What other pool is best at this point? Give BTCGUILD a try...they can't be top dog for nothing. and i suggest pplns and not pps. good luck. Why not 50BTC? BTCGuild seems to not give as much coins as you should get.. maybe it's the fee, or maybe it's their PPLNS system or whatever. Just 'feels' wrong though i think eligius is free...so let us know which is best....50btc, btcguild, eligius In practice probably whichever gets DDoS'd the least, (and you should still have the other pool(s) as failover) Actually.. eligius pays TX fees to miners. Do either 50btc or btcguild? that could be much more important than just a few % fee |
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Saturn ...1.3 btc in 48 hours, even with all the problems I had ** I'm not liking slush's "Varidiff" function... Its a tad low at times, and Id like to try another pool... **What other pool is best at this point? Give BTCGUILD a try...they can't be top dog for nothing. and i suggest pplns and not pps. good luck. Why not 50BTC? BTCGuild seems to not give as much coins as you should get.. maybe it's the fee, or maybe it's their PPLNS system or whatever. Just 'feels' wrong though |
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Also PM'd to (re?)confirm my address
Do we need 100% for refund? Or could it be issued to say, 75% that has confirmed it/etc and the other 25% thereafter? I'm not sure if the logistics make this impossible or risky?
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There's a very good chance the 8 VRM boards will be able to overclock / boost performance FAR beyond the 4 VRM boards.
These are not thermally limited as-is on 0.95. If they are limited, they're limited by VRM current or perhaps decoupling capacitance or other
Prepare for further shitstorms, anyone with a 4 VRM board will be like a cripple trying to keep up against Usain bolt
Oh and those VRM modules have the board level connections as BGA-style underneath the PCB. So you're not adding any components yourself! So go fuck yourself, everyone who doesn't have a reflow oven
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Why the fucking shit did they cut the number of VRMs in half? Why is half of my PCB assembly unpopulated?
Graned this thing runs cool as shit, like, not above 50C anywhere cool, but that only tells me the clock limit is due to the (lack) of VRMs and/or lack of decoupling capacitance.
What the fuck is going on here?
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The 50% refund is no longer available?
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.95 nets me around 275/257 GH/sec for a Saturn on cgminer
the crazy thing is the onboard temps don't read above 48C, and i'm not seeing ANYTHING - VRM modules, caps, etc above 55C at the most.
Makes me think they're not thermally limited for clock rate. Maybe the buck converters can't push enough current to clock higher or there's not sufficient decoupling capacitance/other voltage issues?
Or do these have untapped potential? I am ignorant to how these devices are clocked, if cgminer / etc software can adjust the clock frequencies or if it's a hard-soldered oscillator / clock divider or what.
301 watts at the PSU line in
this is also with the cover off, but no external fans
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.95 nets me around 275/257 GH/sec for a Saturn on cgminer
the crazy thing is the onboard temps don't read above 48C, and i'm not seeing ANYTHING - VRM modules, caps, etc above 55C at the most.
Makes me think they're not thermally limited for clock rate. Maybe the buck converters can't push enough current to clock higher or there's not sufficient decoupling capacitance/other voltage issues?
Or do these have untapped potential? I am ignorant to how these devices are clocked, if cgminer / etc software can adjust the clock frequencies or if it's a hard-soldered oscillator / clock divider or what.
301 watts at the PSU line in
this is also with the cover off, but no external fans
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Suggestion: Figure out how to mine through Tor or similar anonymizing network
Remember, several people with early batch Avalons had their homes broken into and their units stolen.
Why take unnecessary risk?
Yeah mining through tor...no latency or connectivity issues there. How about just not posting your IP, address, or order information....otherwise known as common sense. The pool has your IP. That is more than enough. God help you if you use P2Pool. |
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So do people need to 'use' orders?
I have a good deal of assemblies that i do not need, so i was going to use the 50% refund option, but are there people who can make use of them?
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Suggestion: Figure out how to mine through Tor or similar anonymizing network
Remember, several people with early batch Avalons had their homes broken into and their units stolen.
Why take unnecessary risk?
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What a cluster fuck this has been
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