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One more post and I make you guys a thread.
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I am really disappointed that the team is even considering to close down this unmoderated thread which is the only platform for transparent communication. There are many elements of a crypto projects, in fact all elements should be discussed transparently in an unmoderated thread. It is very important that all sceptics like barabbas can point out problems and stress test the idea. Transparent conversation drives the process forward and usually results in morally correct business practice. First, the work with IOTA, after closing down the unmoderated thread. This is really shocking to me.
He is just asking shareholders to come to the private forum to discuss it. You realize that everything can't be posted in this thread right? |
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IOTA has a unique coin, lots of money, very good marketing skills and hundreds of supporters.
Have you lost your fucking mind albert? Who actually will make the IOTA project a success in the corporate driven Internet of Things sector when you need to compete with large multinationals such as Samsung, Intel and Siemens? Will be that individual the 24 years old Scandinavian business-boy David with zero experience in IoT or the anonymous Come-from-Beyond who is hiding in some basement in Belarus? You believe those individuals will be able to create a successful IoT business. Your naivety is really astonishing. When I asked the 24 years old David boy what is your experience in IoT and business in general his is answer was: I have been reading about it a lot for years. Hurray, he has been reading about it - lets invest in him. Combined such deep expertise of the boy with the anonymous Come-from-Beyond java skills they should be able to take on Samsung and Intel. Of course not. When I pointed out to the 24 years old boy that IoT sector (due to fragmented corporate interests, the reluctance of adopting open source solutions and immense competition in the field) there is no profitable IoT startup exists yet, all of them survives on subsequent rounds of angel and VC investments, he said, "oh no that is not correct" ... next day he started the BS to his investors that securing a VC investment is the way to go forward. They have zero experience in IoT, they have never ever worked with any system integrators and therefore they have absolutely no idea what are the system and business requirements in the field, but they want to create a successful IoT business. Really? Have you ever bothered to check out what type of work - as well as the quality of that work - is going on with the IoT, standardization process, protocol design within the W3C organisation? Our devs are working with those serious businesses in daily bases. The 24 years old boy and the anonymous java programmer from Belarus are working with sithy exchanges to organise the next P&D. So where is the overlap in ethics, moral, skills, ambition and vision exactly? The JINN project indicates how delusional (as well as scammer) are the boy from Scandinavia and the anonymous from Belarus. Their "plan" was to implement a hardware business by rolling out a new microporcessor and hardware platform. I am quite familiar with microprocessors, firmware and low level, embedded software (check out my posts how I helped out the TileCoin developers and probably saved them a lot money by pointing them out the ATMEL crypto processors and many my other posts on the topic) and since I know you are not familiar in the field let me tell you that these two fuckers will never ever will roll out a new microprocessor. However, they have collected the money for it from the delusional and uninformed crowd. It took 5 years for ATMEL using their unlimited financial power to get started the open source Arduino platform (yes it is not a sole processor project but the initiative is very similar, i.e. create a new hardware platform). There are estimates that the project cost more than US$ 500 million for ATMEL so far. The boy plus the anonymous from Belarus in order to succeed essentially would have to be able to replicate that Arduino process/success with JINN. How realistic is that? Now, these are your "business partners". As for barabbas, I am very disappointed with the asshole as he went to the lowest of lows by giving to the public our private conversation, but to be fair and for the benefit of the readers here, I have to admit that his reservation about GadgetCoin is understandable at this moment in time. The GDGC devs have not delivered anything substantial yet. I know the devs are working on the system and let see if they can prove barabbas and the sceptics wrong. Since they are full or your lies, asshole, I understand your concern about those private conversations being made public. But they haven't been. Yet. No need. By now everyone knows that you blatantly lied -and made significant offers- to try to get me involved in helping this project. Not only I was skeptical from the get go and REJECTED the substantial "offers", but also explained quite clearly why this "project" was completely inviable. The porno models stuff is already out for it would have never worked, of course. But now it has the Tzapardi involvement that is, evidently, the kiss of death for this guy has never ever succeeded at anything, not that with or without him was there ever even the slimmest of possibilities. And you and your investment which, minimal as it is, is quite lost i'm afraid. But, once again, you are right in what regards IOTA the 24 boy and the Belarus java programmer that wants to shut you out betting 50 btc of the ico money he just got from idiots like Albert. NOTHING WILL EVER COME OUT OF ANY OF IT. Not on this and not in IOTA. Tired of idiots, scammers and lying assholes... So would you say Gadgetnet has a greater or lesser chance of success than your acting career? Thanks, just trying to put this all in perspective. |
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So Tibor, you want those Norwegian and Belarusian wankers contribute to a non-profit open source project which actually provides them with zero opportunity to collect money? Don't hold your breath - that's never going to happen. That pathetic cunt didn't come here to work on a community driven, non-profit open source project that yield no financial benefit to him. He came here to promote his shit.
Watching this thread, also quoted altcoinUK post so he couldn't delete it. PS: Those who don't know the full story - altcoinUK missed Nxt sale (and didn't earn money unlike those who bought NXT), then he missed JINN sale and again didn't earn money, I suspect he didn't have bitcoins to buy iotas because of lack of the former (well, speculation on altcoins is a risky business, I don't blame him for poor trading skills). Now he follows me everywhere spreading lies, he became such angry that has fallen to the lowest level of trolling - childish name calling. Welcome to the thread. As I am sure you guys know, unrelated fighting is incredibly annoying an unproductive to a thread. Let this be the last post in this fight. If it isn't I will start a new thread titled altcoinuk vs iotadevs and you can take the gloves off. I have already asked altcoinUK to stop, and now I am asking you guys. Starting a fight in this thread will not lead to the Gadgetnet devs wanting to collaborate. Thanks guys and congratulations on your success with IOTA. |
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cool! nice to hear the devs are making progress!
IOTA is a very strong competitor. there are Iota articles everywhere. Their marketing is very strong. how can we improve the marketing of gadgetnet?
The GadgetCoin guys can't compete with that hype and exposure. Those guys at IOTA are in a different league terms of marketing and community support and in attracting investment. The whole NXT and Supernet community is routing for them and they have a huge support. Though the start, intermediate and end part of the story will be precisely the same as the NXT and Jinn story have been. The majority of the coin will be purchased by the usual suspects, then P&D, then some happiness and then lots of tears and disappointments. Edward above should know the story and what's happening there ... he should know a lot about CfB ... I was wondering what was the sudden curiosity above about that presentation, but never mind. I suggest again, the GDGC devs go away from this place to Slack and keep continue talking to real businesses, angel investors and VCs instead of hoping they can gain community support here. They won't be able to beat IOTA and CfB here, on their own playground. I can't help but feel sorry for your kind of mentality. Why the animosity? We are developing IOTA precisely because we saw the need for it in IoT, especially for Jinn, which contrary to your false delusions is in full and healthy development by electrical engineers and PhDs. NXT and SuperNET only make up a sliver of our support, our support comes from the interest in the technology we are making, not just our past affiliations. And as for your childish 'ends in tears' comment: everyone that bought JINN tokens with NXT had a 5x ROI in NXT within just a few months, so tears of joy in any event. Also, Slack is not our 'playground' as you so maturely put it, we have been in active dialogue with several leading players in what you call 'real business' for months, we are kickstarting the IOTA economy in a decentralized and organic manner, as that is required for the IoT economy to stay secure and interoperable between businesses and technologies, but our focus is W3C/standardization, established companies and start-ups. It's pretty sad that instead of reaching out and seeing if there is some overlap for collaboration, you feel the constant need to air your insecurities by spreading vacuous rumours and postulating falsehoods. I suggest that you find something productive to do with your life... If any core GadgetCoin devs are interested in having real productive and mature discussions of potential overlap, feel free to PM me, IOTA is all about inclusion and growing the IoT ecosystem. There isn't any animosity between the projects. Sometimes supporters will try to bash anything they see as a competitor, and that is pretty normal for this forum so definitely don't take it as hate from the Gadgetnet project. No bashing nor animosity from my part. This cunt kicked me out from his moderated thread when I pointed out his non-existent experience in Internet of Things, and then he comes to this unmoderated thread to spread his bollocks and fantasies about real world businesses. At least the wanker follows this thread and understands why our DEVs are focusing on standardization and collaboration with W3C. Just ignore each other. We don't need fighting in this thread, it's no different than having a troll run rampant. There is no point in putting these projects against each other. |
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cool! nice to hear the devs are making progress!
IOTA is a very strong competitor. there are Iota articles everywhere. Their marketing is very strong. how can we improve the marketing of gadgetnet?
The GadgetCoin guys can't compete with that hype and exposure. Those guys at IOTA are in a different league terms of marketing and community support and in attracting investment. The whole NXT and Supernet community is routing for them and they have a huge support. Though the start, intermediate and end part of the story will be precisely the same as the NXT and Jinn story have been. The majority of the coin will be purchased by the usual suspects, then P&D, then some happiness and then lots of tears and disappointments. Edward above should know the story and what's happening there ... he should know a lot about CfB ... I was wondering what was the sudden curiosity above about that presentation, but never mind. I suggest again, the GDGC devs go away from this place to Slack and keep continue talking to real businesses, angel investors and VCs instead of hoping they can gain community support here. They won't be able to beat IOTA and CfB here, on their own playground. I can't help but feel sorry for your kind of mentality. Why the animosity? We are developing IOTA precisely because we saw the need for it in IoT, especially for Jinn, which contrary to your false delusions is in full and healthy development by electrical engineers and PhDs. NXT and SuperNET only make up a sliver of our support, our support comes from the interest in the technology we are making, not just our past affiliations. And as for your childish 'ends in tears' comment: everyone that bought JINN tokens with NXT had a 5x ROI in NXT within just a few months, so tears of joy in any event. Also, Slack is not our 'playground' as you so maturely put it, we have been in active dialogue with several leading players in what you call 'real business' for months, we are kickstarting the IOTA economy in a decentralized and organic manner, as that is required for the IoT economy to stay secure and interoperable between businesses and technologies, but our focus is W3C/standardization, established companies and start-ups. It's pretty sad that instead of reaching out and seeing if there is some overlap for collaboration, you feel the constant need to air your insecurities by spreading vacuous rumours and postulating falsehoods. I suggest that you find something productive to do with your life... If any core GadgetCoin devs are interested in having real productive and mature discussions of potential overlap, feel free to PM me, IOTA is all about inclusion and growing the IoT ecosystem. There isn't any animosity between the projects. Sometimes supporters will try to bash anything they see as a competitor, and that is pretty normal for this forum so definitely don't take it as hate from the Gadgetnet project. |
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Still looking to buy more Gadgetnet shares. Message me if you are looking to sell!
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Looking to buy shares in Gadgetnet, please PM me if you'd like to sell!
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Is this the next trend? Cult coins?
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The GadgetNet DAC shares has been issued to all VICR accounts.
Instead of the 20% that was discussed earlier we decided to give away 50% shares to our investors. Therefore, the developers own 50% of the total company shares and the VICR investors own the other 50% of the shares.
Total 19,442,000 has been issued. 100 shares has been allocated to each GadgetCoin, so if you have 1,000 GDGC then you should receive 100,000 GadgetNet DAC shares. If you see an incorrect figure please let us know and we will fix the issue, but everything should be correctly in place.
Currently the shares price is 3 US$ cents per share. You will be able to sell the shares when the share sell/buy function is enabled, most likely later this week. We are talking to angel investors and VCs and if you decide to exit your investment then you will be able to sell the shares to a minimum at 3 cents per share price. We are creating a business with a real product for real world clients and we hope the share price of GadgetNet will increase, so please hold on to your shares if you can as we are targeting the 10 cents per share price within the next few months.
You can review your DAC share holdings by log in to your wallet and clicking on the "DAC" menu item under the "Account" menu.
“You will be able to sell the shares when the share sell/buy function is enabled, most likely later this week ” how is this going on？ We apologize for the delay with the share trade function. Please give us a few days to enable the feature. There are new opportunities with regards to GadgetNet and other tasks have been prioritized over the share trade feature, but sorry again for the delay and we will try to get it done this week. Since the last update we have been working hard to develop the software. We decided to publish everything including the P2P video streaming and the complete Internet-of-Things framework in the next release, in a one go. It is a huge amount of work, but we are making a reasonably good progress every day. We are combining all WoT codes into our software and will be releasing a lot more than originally was planned. It will be completely decentralized, but GadgetCoin will be still integrated into it. Our P2P software and security implementation will be presented first time to the W3C web of things user group on the 26th of November. The user group includes companies like Siemens, Alibaba, Oracle, Intel, Google, Nokia, Panasonic and many other big and influential businesses. I will post a more detailed update later this week. I personally think that the trade function can wait until after the presentation, it is much less important. |
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Making games without writing code. That will make the games you can produce more like templates and lack variety. What advantage would you have over Unity? You will be able to make VR games with Unity and they already have a massive asset store and a great engine.
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So there are 1680400000 coins giving AMP a 16804 market cap at .00001 BTC per AMP? |
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I will check in the CoAP and MQTT protocol bindings in the next few days. I am also working on the STM32 and ATMEL ARM/AVR integration of GadgetNet. I will keep you updated about the progress in this thread.
Thanks for posting! Can you tell us more about what you do with Zovolt and how Zovolt plans to use Gadgetnet? Thanks for your time. |
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How many coins are there atm, and what is the daily inflation rate?
thanks
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what makes you believe the $5 million realistic? i don't think the $5 million market cap so quickly is a realistic expectation.
I didn't talk about market cap, did I? I couldn't care less what is the market cap valuation of 99.99% of digital currencies which are used by absolutely nobody except the several thousands users of Bitcointalk by selling to each other the things. I am talking about capital investment from a venture capital firm or angel investors. I have been investing via Venture Capital and angel investor firms and funds, and witnessing what kind of shits could exists in a VC's portfolio. The VC investment culture is in the UK is far more conservative than US, still unbelievably shitty technology ideas and absolutely incompetent teams have been securing GBP 5 million investments. The blockchain is getting a hot topic, the Internet of Things has been a popular investment area for years, the IoT micropayment will sound a very fancy idea for a VC, the IoT driven P2P streaming is a very nicely presentable topic. That's what makes me believe if the product is ready for investment, if the team is serious then GadgetNet will have no problem to secure that $5 million. I agree with this 100%. The fact that Gadgetnet has such a central spot on W3C's IoT development alone should easily bring in investments of that size if not greater. This would help big time with any team/keeping developers interest problems. With a nice VC investment they could buy shares and hopefully give the company some funds for salaries etc, which would allow you to work full time. Is anyone working full time at the moment? I also believe that we should move all discussion off of this forum as there is little to be gained here. Something like slack would allow more detailed updates and discussions. |
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The GadgetNet DAC shares has been issued to all VICR accounts.
Instead of the 20% that was discussed earlier we decided to give away 50% shares to our investors. Therefore, the developers own 50% of the total company shares and the VICR investors own the other 50% of the shares.
Total 19,442,000 has been issued. 100 shares has been allocated to each GadgetCoin, so if you have 1,000 GDGC then you should receive 100,000 GadgetNet DAC shares. If you see an incorrect figure please let us know and we will fix the issue, but everything should be correctly in place.
Currently the shares price is 3 US$ cents per share. You will be able to sell the shares when the share sell/buy function is enabled, most likely later this week. We are talking to angel investors and VCs and if you decide to exit your investment then you will be able to sell the shares to a minimum at 3 cents per share price. We are creating a business with a real product for real world clients and we hope the share price of GadgetNet will increase, so please hold on to your shares if you can as we are targeting the 10 cents per share price within the next few months.
You can review your DAC share holdings by log in to your wallet and clicking on the "DAC" menu item under the "Account" menu.
Wow that is awesome, you reward us so well.  Thanks for all the hard work and I appreciate the bump in shares big time! |
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We are basing our entire start-up around IoT, which we've been working on in stealth for a year, as explained in OP this is what prompted us to develop IOTA. It is a necessary ingredient for the vision of IoT that our start-up is focused on. On top of this all of us will invest our personal funds into IOTA, so no we have a ton of incentive to make IOTA a success.
I've copied this from the IOTA thread. The competition is on. I hope our GadgetCoin will win the race. I read the whitepaper for IOTA and......unless they have something up their sleeve we have little to worry about. It honestly looks like a scam to me. |
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Hi, a couple of quick questions since the ICO seems to be the topic now:
How many % of the coins will the team keep?
Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?
Is the ICO the only distribution method?
0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else. Yes ICO is indeed the only distributon method for this project for a couple of reasons: 1) It's the only way we'll get compensated for our work and development, since we have zero premine 2) It's the only way to ensure that the tokens are actually valued, which is needed to kickstart the ecosystem that will form around them and be part of their function Won't you be compensated by your start-up? ICO's are NOT a good way to establish value, much less the only way. Start-ups in the hardware industry does not pay dividends for quite some time, especially when it's not just a shiny toy for Kickstarter. But ICOs are indeed a good way to establish value, it automatically spawns a sizable community that has a direct incentive to keep a platform alive. This is the problem with all these 1000 plus random PoW coins, they have absolutely no incentive. ICOs are not perfect, but they are better than the alternatives for a project such as this. All I have found so far is the tangle whitepaper. Do you have an outline of the goal of the start-up and how exactly the coin ties into it? |
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Hi, a couple of quick questions since the ICO seems to be the topic now:
How many % of the coins will the team keep?
Are you planning to prove somehow you're not "buying your own coins" from the ICO?
Is the ICO the only distribution method?
0% of the coins go to the team. The team will be compensated via funds raised in the ICO, no pre-mine. We'll have to buy our tokens just like everyone else. Yes ICO is indeed the only distributon method for this project for a couple of reasons: 1) It's the only way we'll get compensated for our work and development, since we have zero premine 2) It's the only way to ensure that the tokens are actually valued, which is needed to kickstart the ecosystem that will form around them and be part of their function Won't you be compensated by your start-up? ICO's are NOT a good way to establish value, much less the only way. |
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There is a new project IOTA. How GadgetCoin will compete with the NXT community? Can it compete?
3) Interoperability. We found this is a key issue for Internet-of-Things companies. To address this requirement we have started working with W3C to integrate and industry standard communication protocol suit into GadgetNet. The key word is "industry standard". Large industry players such as Ericsson or Fujitsu who support the W3C project won't touch a non-standard platform, but even small factories require standardized software to control their PLC devices or security companies to manage their IoT camera devices. 5) Regulatory compliance. No real world Internet-of-Things business will use a platform without regulatory compliance is in place. In majority of cases these are ISO companies which require the application and devices must be audited and transaction information to be available for the regulators upon request as well as in real time. GadgetNet addresses this by implementing the private/public block-chain concept. While I believe that Gadgetcoin is miles ahead on all the categories listed by mtomcdev, these two are where any other bitcointalk project has little to no chance, especially since GDGC has already worked with W3C for months. |
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