Companies do not spin up $20M worth of product on extremely limited supply chains on letters of credit.
That statement is patently false. Letters of credit were, are, and will be written for various sums, both lower and higher. It is a mainstay of many industries, not just produce importers. I had to front it, and I can’t front it through August with no concept of demand numbers. This was not a profit taking venture, I’m trying very hard to make sure these cards make it into the community without price gouging that was about to happen. With out that effort, they would have continued to produce small batches and introduced heavy lead times and price increases. I took the risk off them, everyone here benefits. Simple as that.
I don't have an inside knowledge of your venture so I can't make any definitive statements. What I will comment about is one fact: you may think that you can freely mix true and false statements and they will average to "reasonable". No they average to "are you on drugs?" or "what film set did you came from?" or "did you forgot to take your medications?". This vacillation between heady optimism and dark paranoia in a single person is not only off-putting. It is the reason to raise suspicion among both crypto-currency people and traditional finance people. Every statement I made is true. I offered a letter of credit - they required upfront. I’m not sure what your angle is here, but there’s no conspiracy for you to play on here. |
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@GPUHoarder,
@senseless, I have just noticed a small detail regarding warranty, on fpga.land website: Could you please clarify regarding "for the places where waranty period is defined by law" part? Does this mean you are ready to provide a 2 year warrantywhen selling to EU? 90 days warranty is a huge concern for me even when it comes to a GPU not to mention a $3.5K hardware piece. But a 2 years waranty would definitely be a decisive factor for me here. Yes if your regions laws require, the warranty period will be 2 years. speaking of questions:
@GPUHoarder, i think you mentioned the acorn will run under windows only.
@senseless, you mentioned linux only for fpga.
so looks like separate rigs then? was hoping to drop both the acorn and vcu1525 into my windows gpu rig.
ah well used ubuntu before i guess ill figure out whatever distro you support.
Everything I do supports all platforms. |
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looks like 100% scam to me
be smart guys
Can confirm this is not in our order book. |
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Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.
Well, that simple matter is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit . People routinely have been paying that way for importing the produce that haven't even grown yet. I feel weird explaining to the highly educated people what I learned as a kid from the bazaar fruit importer. Companies do not spin up $20M worth of product on extremely limited supply chains on letters of credit. I had to front it, and I can’t front it through August with no concept of demand numbers. This was not a profit taking venture, I’m trying very hard to make sure these cards make it into the community without price gouging that was about to happen. With out that effort, they would have continued to produce small batches and introduced heavy lead times and price increases. I took the risk off them, everyone here benefits. Simple as that. I agree with you, but in turn, buyers take a bigger risk with little concept of expectation. I had to dig deep to get what I now feel is my expectation. Not saying that it's wrong, just the way it is. I definitely understand. Let me know what I can do to help anyone feel comfortable. |
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Survey completed- and syndicated on YouTube  Hey thanks. Love to help more miners! This uses our mining software (because of the very different way it works), but we will be publishing the interfaces to allow others to use it if they see fit. |
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Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.
Well, that simple matter is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit . People routinely have been paying that way for importing the produce that haven't even grown yet. I feel weird explaining to the highly educated people what I learned as a kid from the bazaar fruit importer. Companies do not spin up $20M worth of product on extremely limited supply chains on letters of credit. I had to front it, and I can’t front it through August with no concept of demand numbers. This was not a profit taking venture, I’m trying very hard to make sure these cards make it into the community without price gouging that was about to happen. With out that effort, they would have continued to produce small batches and introduced heavy lead times and price increases. I took the risk off them, everyone here benefits. Simple as that. |
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Limited additional stock is now up at http://fpga.land ! - Get'm while they're hot! Wait 3,600USD for 14Kh/s on CNV1? That's not that great. You can hit 13.5Kh/s using dual EPYC 7401s for around 2500USD @ ~300W. Am I missing something here? Performance is pretty decent, but nothing to write home about imo.. Edit: Ohhh CNV1.. I thought it was CN-LiteV1 (most places write it as CNV7). Even so, doesn't seems all that amazing considering resale value won't be that great. To each their own, pretty interesting seeing all this new info coming out. I'd like to see more performance numbers. I'm a little skeptical seeing how AMD is planning to launch 7nm CPUs on 2019 (which do amazing on CN-LiteV1). I'll keep an eye on these xilinx however, I'll let others test them out first xD. Also I see no numbers on CN-Heavy. I wonder if it takes a hit hashrate wise like some CPU and GPUs? I recently got a hold of some Phi 7220s really cheap and they do ~3200 on CN-heavy. Been testing a few new things lately, but so far I'm not too convinced on these xilinx but I'll wait for people to get their hands on em. You’d get a lot from this thread or the discord. There are tons of algorithms in development for release ahead of shipping by a multitude of devs. The numbers included were minimal performance numbers to give people some idea. These are more like GPUs where a lot of devs can make miners that utilize them than a single purpose is what it is asic. Yes I understand that, but I guess I don't see the huge hype behind it. The numbers are nothing ground breaking like when those 220Kh/s ASICs came out. They are good don't get me wrong but seem very lackluster specially with voiding warranty to achieve such speeds. The thing that makes GPUs so good at mining is the fact that you don't really need to ever ROI since the card can always be resold for ~90% of the original purchase price which negates the extra power consumption. Another turn off is the developer fee you will be paying for the mining program. Atleast from a CryptoNight perspective it really is kind of meh. You can build a few SP3 systems using 7351s or 7401s and get similar performance all running 0 fee open source software. All of which can be sold afterwards. Good luck trying to dump the xilinx post mining. Like I said earlier it's very interesting and I'm sure there will be a great case for it but I still think it's rather lack luster. I didn't think the numbers were all that great either considering you are half butchering the board just to hit them. Compared to the typical rx480 and gtx1060 the average joe uses then yea it looks great but not compared to other more powerful less used stuff c: Most things in crypto drastically overpromise and underdeliver. We aim to do very much the opposite. These are in extremely limited supply, those who understand the technology and capabilities will form a burgeoning ecosystem and hopefully good profits. The lack of massive over promising prevents these cards from being swallowed up by one big farm or by a mass of people with no stake in the ecosystem and only negativity. In the end, it is better. But to be clear, no warranties are being voided. See the ALLMINE group buy thread for what we’ve put together. |
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61 pages of nonsense.
has anyone actually made a miner application that can run with this ?
... yes dozens of people. |
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@senseless FYI - it looks like my PayPal payment was processed with no issues. Marked as completed. Wonder what their criteria was for blocking payments.
It’s a long list. Basically amounts to “this is unusual and seems like something we don’t understand so we’re shutting it down” Regardless of payment method if anyone’s order gets messed up from this please let us me know and we will do our best to figure out how to make sure you can get it. Email sales@squirrelsresearch.com for bulks and any order concerns and Jessica will make sure we take care of you. Thanks, David |
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@senseless FYI - it looks like my PayPal payment was processed with no issues. Marked as completed. Wonder what their criteria was for blocking payments.
It’s a long list. Basically amounts to “this is unusual and seems like something we don’t understand so we’re shutting it down” Did you guys give them a heads up that you guys will be selling products soon and that they will be expecting an influx of $100k+ transactions soon? Or else, they might think it's fraud or money laundering if caught by surprised. Yes, and I called two of my business account reps for our main business account and intro’d the new account and purpose. We gave them contact with our Xilinx reps. Didn’t matter. ~$1M seized for 6 months. Our lawyers are working on it. |
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Limited additional stock is now up at http://fpga.land ! - Get'm while they're hot! Wait 3,600USD for 14Kh/s on CNV1? That's not that great. You can hit 13.5Kh/s using dual EPYC 7401s for around 2500USD @ ~300W. Am I missing something here? Performance is pretty decent, but nothing to write home about imo.. Edit: Ohhh CNV1.. I thought it was CN-LiteV1 (most places write it as CNV7). Even so, doesn't seems all that amazing considering resale value won't be that great. To each their own, pretty interesting seeing all this new info coming out. I'd like to see more performance numbers. I'm a little skeptical seeing how AMD is planning to launch 7nm CPUs on 2019 (which do amazing on CN-LiteV1). I'll keep an eye on these xilinx however, I'll let others test them out first xD. Also I see no numbers on CN-Heavy. I wonder if it takes a hit hashrate wise like some CPU and GPUs? I recently got a hold of some Phi 7220s really cheap and they do ~3200 on CN-heavy. Been testing a few new things lately, but so far I'm not too convinced on these xilinx but I'll wait for people to get their hands on em. You’d get a lot from this thread or the discord. There are tons of algorithms in development for release ahead of shipping by a multitude of devs. The numbers included were minimal performance numbers to give people some idea. These are more like GPUs where a lot of devs can make miners that utilize them than a single purpose is what it is asic. |
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@senseless FYI - it looks like my PayPal payment was processed with no issues. Marked as completed. Wonder what their criteria was for blocking payments.
It’s a long list. Basically amounts to “this is unusual and seems like something we don’t understand so we’re shutting it down” |
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Limited additional stock is now up at http://fpga.land ! - Get'm while they're hot! |
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just bad people that did chargebacks to cause suspicion and investigation of your account.
What I thought were chargebacks were paypal initiated. I'm still not clear if they're chargebacks. It would be a highly ironic twist if none of them were charge backs and after 6 months when they release the funds it turns out there were zero issues... I think i'd sue them. They called all of the customers who ordered asking them questions about the product.. Where did they find us? When is the product shipping, etc.. But to talk to the actual owner of the store? No... I have to hear about this from my customers because they couldn't be bothered to ask me for additional documentation or discuss it with me. I have been having similar nightmares with paypal, even after being with them for over a decade. . Time to usher in the crypto revolution. . as if it hasn't already begun! My company moved millions of dollars through PayPal, and has for years. I reached out to two of our human reps with Senseless before this was even open. Everything should have been up and up, but... Of course this is crypto - people play dirty. All that has to happen is Bitmain places 200 orders and then fraud chargebacks them, complains it was a scam etc. Your orders are safe, guess we’re just sitting on that risk for a few months. |
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Bitstreams are compiled not only for a specific device but a specific device on a specific board. Unless the bitstream is compiled to your FPGA (in this case a KU040 dev board), it will not work.
Just out of curiosity what's the machine specs and what's the approximate compile time for the two algos VCU1525 supports? I'm not sure I understand your question? Can you restate it? VCU1525 thats on fpga.land website supports lyra2z and CN-V1? how long to compile them on the host machine. FPGA bitstream compilation usually takes a lot of time (well, P&R step actually) You’re not compiling them, they’re provided as bitstreams... |
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The key to earn big money in altcoin mining is "mine at the beginning,at low network difficulty",only GPU or CPU farm can rush in at beginning.mine for few days and wait the rocket,you will earn more than mining a whole year.Get the most advanced GPU and CPU is primary task.FPGA may be suitable for long run,but the revenue is too low compared to GPU using my method.
You realize you can compile opencl code for fpga on sdaccel right? opencl for FPGA is just a dessert and may not be really useful. For example, it hasn't seen the true effect of lyra2z for many days, but it can be compiled in a few minutes on the GPU. On average it takes me about 1 day to make a hashcore for a new algorithm on the FPGA. ALL the rest of the time is the "shell", and I'm not referring to senseless' shell but the code and drivers on the PC side, the FPGA/Logic interface and deserialization of command and control data, high bandwidth state passing or low bandwidth block+nonce passing, dynamic clock management, power and thermals, etc. New algorithm - ~1 day to be up and running, heavily optimized over a few weeks just like GPU or CPU. And this is me working solo. We will have a team of FPGA developers working on this. This is not the first move - making the VCU1525 available, this is part of an entire effort. |
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Are we supposed to receive order confirmation emails? Is placing two orders to get a total of 8 cards allowed?
Yes you can place multiples, we just didn’t want to have one person sweep in and take them all at once. |
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Is liquid cooling (Novec or something similar) recommended? How much further can the "modified" boards be pushed, and is it worth the hash increase?
Whitefire990 / Zetheron have done a lot of work on this - because of the cost and performance of the card, the cost to water cool it and run it at maximum efficiency is actually worth it - per them. We’re going to have an installed waterblock option available for purchased that will come on the board when you receive it. |
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how do we know for certain this is not some elaborate scam?
how does 2 unknown faces on btcforum make a deal with a billion dollar company?
and if so, once you have the 1.6 million what keeps you from running?
thanks
1.6 million? North of 15M, and the deal didn’t come without that capital already existing. This is a service to the community to jump start this space. Several well known people here, and several real world businesses have vouched for we are. My name is David Stanfill. My company is Squirrels Inc. www.airsquirrels.com |
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I would really appreciate an update every so often on how many are left in stock...congrats on your release!
There are currently a couple hundred boards open, and some more that are earmarked but I will make available to the community if there is demand. I expect those couple hundred to sell out over night as the other side of the world gets involved, so if you want any I would get them now. |
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