ALLMINE INC - FPGA Cryptominer

[senseless]

We are only able to talk about the work we've done on lyra2z and cnv1

I noticed on your site it says "Power: 75W PCI-E + 150W 8-Pin AUX", so would that mean it'll actually require a max of 225w combined for each card depending on the algo? Or the 150w for lyra2z and cnv1 were already measured as the overall baseline? Trying to figure out how many can fit on my PSU safely without overloading.

Power utilization is determined by the bitstream you're using. You can have a bitstream that uses 5 watts. 225W is maximum power availability, you should build based on 250W-300W to be safe.

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[Andy16k]

We are only able to talk about the work we've done on lyra2z and cnv1

I noticed on your site it says "Power: 75W PCI-E + 150W 8-Pin AUX", so would that mean it'll actually require a max of 225w combined for each card depending on the algo? Or the 150w for lyra2z and cnv1 were already measured as the overall baseline? Trying to figure out how many can fit on my PSU safely without overloading.

Power utilization is determined by the bitstream you're using. You can have a bitstream that uses 5 watts. 225W is maximum power availability, you should build based on 250W-300W to be safe.

Do if that's the case, does that mean you're likely able to increase the cryptonight hashrate further by using a bit more power or is it limited by other aspects of the card?

[areyouathief]

Power utilization is determined by the bitstream you're using. You can have a bitstream that uses 5 watts. 225W is maximum power availability, you should build based on 250W-300W to be safe.

Do you or will you support Linux ?

[colomine]

@senseless,
if a delivery address is in US or Canada, but i pay with wire transfer  from a European bank account, I do not have to pay a European VAT do I?

I'd recommend you pay by crypto.

VAT is due in the country of delivery, what has to be taken into account is the country of delivery (actual shipping adress) and nothing else.

I was recommending he pay by crypto because when I verify his account it's not going to look good.

Why wouldn't  it look good? I just happen to have funds on my account in Germany, whereas my current country of residence, as well as country of tax residence, is Canada. Transfering funds to Canada first will mean I loose on convertation several times. In Canada you can't have an account in foreign currency that you can use for payments. Thus first it will be converted from EUR into CAD then again from CAD into USD when I pay from my Canadian account. Makes no sense.
Paying that much in crypto - i do not know...

[senseless]

We are only able to talk about the work we've done on lyra2z and cnv1

I noticed on your site it says "Power: 75W PCI-E + 150W 8-Pin AUX", so would that mean it'll actually require a max of 225w combined for each card depending on the algo? Or the 150w for lyra2z and cnv1 were already measured as the overall baseline? Trying to figure out how many can fit on my PSU safely without overloading.

Power utilization is determined by the bitstream you're using. You can have a bitstream that uses 5 watts. 225W is maximum power availability, you should build based on 250W-300W to be safe.

Do if that's the case, does that mean you're likely able to increase the cryptonight hashrate further by using a bit more power or is it limited by other aspects of the card?

Our cryptonight hashrates are conservative numbers -- If you'd like to talk about performance aspects a great place is in the discord chat room. There are a lot of developers there not just myself and gpuhoarder. This is a community effort and there are a lot of other developers releasing bitstreams. However, we're not going to use their performance numbers to try to move product.

https://discord.gg/M6CyRh

[senseless]

@senseless,
if a delivery address is in US or Canada, but i pay with wire transfer  from a European bank account, I do not have to pay a European VAT do I?

I'd recommend you pay by crypto.

VAT is due in the country of delivery, what has to be taken into account is the country of delivery (actual shipping adress) and nothing else.

I was recommending he pay by crypto because when I verify his account it's not going to look good.

i just happen to have an account in Germany, whereas my current country of residence, as well as country of tax residence, is Canada. Transfering funds to Canada first will mean I loose on convertation several times. In Canada you can't have an account in foreign currency that you can use for payments. Thus first it will be converted from EUR into CAD then again from CAD into USD when I pay from my Canadian account. Makes no sense.

I understand, and I've recommended you pay by crypto. We still need to make sure these wires are legitimate and not people making phone calls to old ladies and fleecing them of their savings.

[senseless]

Power utilization is determined by the bitstream you're using. You can have a bitstream that uses 5 watts. 225W is maximum power availability, you should build based on 250W-300W to be safe.

Do you or will you support Linux ?

Yes, our software will be linux only. We'll have distribution repos for hiveos, smos, and debian. Probably a cent one too, because I'm a cent fan..

[senseless]

when i want to mine x16r,need 2 cards?

As far as I know, no one has made a X16R bitstream

[melpheos]

Power utilization is determined by the bitstream you're using. You can have a bitstream that uses 5 watts. 225W is maximum power availability, you should build based on 250W-300W to be safe.

Do you or will you support Linux ?

Yes, our software will be linux only. We'll have distribution repos for hiveos, smos, and debian. Probably a cent one too, because I'm a cent fan..

Would love to have CentOS as well

[TheRealCashen]

Are you going to support awesome miner?

Or I should ask, are you going to provide the tools for awesome miner to support this product?

[senseless]

Update:

Good news everyone!

A senior analyst at paypal just called me. Had a good long talk with them. We discussed the reasons they're unhappy with our business and possible resolutions to the issues that would allow us to continue. I think we may have some agreeable terms that we can pursue. They're currently reviewing the decision to close the account and may reopen it and allow us to continue. They said they should have a decision for me on tuesday.

So, if we're not sold out by then! Paypal may again be possible.

Thank you to everyone for your understanding about the issues we've been having and for the support we've received. <3

[melpheos]

Update:

Good news everyone!

A senior analyst at paypal just called me. Had a good long talk with them. We discussed the reasons they're unhappy with our business and possible resolutions to the issues that would allow us to continue. I think we may have some agreeable terms that we can pursue. They're currently reviewing the decision to close the account and may reopen it and allow us to continue. They said they should have a decision for me on tuesday.

So, if we're not sold out by then! Paypal may again be possible.

Thank you to everyone for your understanding about the issues we've been having and for the support we've received. <3

I still don't understand what is the issue for Paypal... You are selling a legitimate product, your customer are purchasing it, it's legal...
What is their legal reasoning for refusing your business ?

PS : will be wiring fund on monday

[senseless]

I still don't understand what is the issue for Paypal... You are selling a legitimate product, your customer are purchasing it, it's legal...
What is their legal reasoning for refusing your business ?

PS : will be wiring fund on monday

Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.

My biggest issue was, it's so hard to get the right person on the phone.

[lunobird]

Update:

Good news everyone!

A senior analyst at paypal just called me. Had a good long talk with them. We discussed the reasons they're unhappy with our business and possible resolutions to the issues that would allow us to continue. I think we may have some agreeable terms that we can pursue. They're currently reviewing the decision to close the account and may reopen it and allow us to continue. They said they should have a decision for me on tuesday.

So, if we're not sold out by then! Paypal may again be possible.

Thank you to everyone for your understanding about the issues we've been having and for the support we've received. <3

That's awesome hopeful news, It hurts to sell crypto at these lowish prices and pay a capital gains,  to pay for new hardware hence why I decided PayPal would be a better option.  If bitcoin was 12k or above this would be a different story and I would be more willing to offload some crypto for new hardware to manage investment risk.

My payment already processed through my credit card thru paypal,  But paypal is reviewing the seller allmines,  so I hope they do not reverse the charge. I would like to lock in my spot.

[gotminer]

I still don't understand what is the issue for Paypal... You are selling a legitimate product, your customer are purchasing it, it's legal...
What is their legal reasoning for refusing your business ?

PS : will be wiring fund on monday

Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.

My biggest issue was, it's so hard to get the right person on the phone.

So why do pre-orders?  Why not start accepting payments when you have them ready to ship?

[2112]

Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.

Well, that simple matter is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit . People routinely have been paying that way for importing the produce that haven't even grown yet. I feel weird explaining to the highly educated people what I learned as a kid from the bazaar fruit importer.

[GPUHoarder]

Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.

Well, that simple matter is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit . People routinely have been paying that way for importing the produce that haven't even grown yet. I feel weird explaining to the highly educated people what I learned as a kid from the bazaar fruit importer.

Companies do not spin up $20M worth of product on extremely limited supply chains on letters of credit. I had to front it, and I can’t front it through August with no concept of demand numbers. This was not a profit taking venture, I’m trying very hard to make sure these cards make it into the community without price gouging that was about to happen.

With out that effort, they would have continued to produce small batches and introduced heavy lead times and price increases. I took the risk off them, everyone here benefits. Simple as that.

[gotminer]

Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.

Well, that simple matter is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit . People routinely have been paying that way for importing the produce that haven't even grown yet. I feel weird explaining to the highly educated people what I learned as a kid from the bazaar fruit importer.

Companies do not spin up $20M worth of product on extremely limited supply chains on letters of credit. I had to front it, and I can’t front it through August with no concept of demand numbers. This was not a profit taking venture, I’m trying very hard to make sure these cards make it into the community without price gouging that was about to happen.

With out that effort, they would have continued to produce small batches and introduced heavy lead times and price increases. I took the risk off them, everyone here benefits. Simple as that.

I agree with you, but in turn, buyers take a bigger risk with little concept of expectation.  I had to dig deep to get what I now feel is my expectation.  Not saying that it's wrong, just the way it is.

[GPUHoarder]

Their biggest issue is that they're pre-orders and aren't shipping immediately. I completely understand where they're coming from. Don't you? But, It should be a simple matter to find a situation that works for them, works for us, and works for everyone else in the community.

Well, that simple matter is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_credit . People routinely have been paying that way for importing the produce that haven't even grown yet. I feel weird explaining to the highly educated people what I learned as a kid from the bazaar fruit importer.

Companies do not spin up $20M worth of product on extremely limited supply chains on letters of credit. I had to front it, and I can’t front it through August with no concept of demand numbers. This was not a profit taking venture, I’m trying very hard to make sure these cards make it into the community without price gouging that was about to happen.

With out that effort, they would have continued to produce small batches and introduced heavy lead times and price increases. I took the risk off them, everyone here benefits. Simple as that.

I agree with you, but in turn, buyers take a bigger risk with little concept of expectation.  I had to dig deep to get what I now feel is my expectation.  Not saying that it's wrong, just the way it is.

I definitely understand. Let me know what I can do to help anyone feel comfortable.

[keksov]

It's really great to see FPGAs making a comeback, and in a way that's more accessible to individual miners.

I have some technical questions, if I may;

• It was mentioned in a previous post that the units will come with encryption keys burned in. I'm somewhat familiar with the IP protection mechanisms of previous generation Xilinx devices, so is my understanding correct that these VCU1525's won't load a bitstream unless it's been encrypted using your key?
• If the above is true, if for whatever reason you had to cease your operation, or are unable to provide devs with continued access to development hardware, would you release these encryption key(s) and any other secrets to prevent future development work on bitstreams for fielded units grinding to a halt?

Thank you both for all your efforts in this.

Kind regards,
David

Was it answered? It's very important question to my mind...