The first ponzi website (ponzi.pw) is cooking. What goes into it?

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Take 1 on the logo.


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Danke for the 100 ponzi.

Does the TEK chain have checkpoints?

Well, burning the coins would not be a viable proposition, the coins would rather be redistributed to the existing community via some proof. I wouldn't mind earning a few of those, maybe graphics work or some form of marketing. Lets see how this works.

Am wondering about this Math, since within 12 hours there has been over 100k coins generated. At this rate the coin may end up with 500M coins. Is my analysis Wright?

Hey, how does DPOS work? Is it similar to what Bitshares put up? How does it affect on - off nodes?

Hey Tilk, when is this going up on cex or yobit?

Hey Tilk, been following your projects. Good things coming. When will the block explorer materialize?

It wouldn't be about getting cheap wine, but getting good wine cheaply. But that is all secondary since it would only work for those with a market, will and skill at selling. The primary market for these grapes will be the local vintner, who pays in cash, so most investors would expect income every year for the period we agree to work with.

But am also negotiating with them to produce and package a private line of wine for this venture, which would provide an extra, if not leveraged, source of income for those that can handle wine sales.

Current viticulture technology ensures you are up and running within two years. First year gets you approximately half the yield, second about two thirds and then its full production onward. Good questions there, will include them in my pitch.

Why here? Because am a believer. This is disruption on very many levels. This is a unique market which will definitely expand to touch very many areas of life and society. So yeah, I'd really like to eat into the wine industry and market, this ecosystem provides a unique vehicle for that.

Thanks for the mind share.



My vines will be supplied by the same producer, plus there's more varieties coming from the same vintner so that is covered.

There seems to be an invisible wall designed to keep out new wineries from hitting the global market, yes 5$ a bottle is alright, but I'm trying for 3$ or less for a 500ml portion. Bottle technology is a-changing, and the ways in which wine can be kept and transported is changing too.

Anyway, back to crunching and verifying these numbers... They truly are hard numbers.

The value will be calculated at distributor rates. A vineyard produces, Grapes, which can become 'table grapes', or made into grape juice, made further into wine or distilled into brandy. Those are four products, each with its niche market and existing market players. My highly idealistic take is that using the distributed network of people in the bitcoin ecosystem, its possible to make inroads and even challenge the status quo in many industries, including the wine industry.

If I sold the grapes to the local vendor and paid my investors from that income, that would be tier one income, but if the same investors have a market for wine, they would then have a means to increase their income. Though of course accounting for time and opportunity, especially within this ecosystem, may remove that advantage.

Yes, our region understands crop insurance, though its a very recent innovation here. I would insure the crop, and vines really work well in the sun, a deep well irrigation system to cover any extended drought periods would also go a long way.

Thanks, got one thing to deliver, a business plan, since that would have all the numbers.

Meanwhile, what would be the objections to receiving product as payment or benefit?

No am not moving to the US.

Yes you can invest in a current vineyard. I have not thought about the pricing of bitcoin, but since all my suppliers and primary customer only deal in Fiat currency, It would be prudent to pay you back in fiat, bitcoin would be the rails to transfer the value.

Yes, you'll get the numbers.

Payment in wine is an option, a good one for me since the farm will then have come with a ready market for its produce. Though it would be optional and provide an opportunity for the investors to get a reliable and regular supply of good quality wine. Grafted vineyards start producing within a year, with max production capacity starting in the second/third year. Guess that is eons in bitcoin time, but at some point we all need to step back into the real world.

Tell us who you are.

In due time, though with a little research its easy to have most of my info. Meanwhile, got to save some face since this place can be brutal.

Tell us why you need our money.


In order to invest it in Viticulture and hopefully raise a profit for all involved. From my analysis, vineyards are a plant once, maintain for 35 - 40 years crop, which is a medium maintenance crop. Further, the end products which are grapes, grape juice and wine have an international market. Though I've come to learn the US has hangovers from the abolitionist period that limit importation of alcoholic drinks. But the world is far much greater than the US.

Tell us exactly what you are going to do with our money.


1. Tie down a 50yr lease of land. 5 hectares as a start would do, with a target to expand to 100 hectares within 5 years.
2. Plant several South African vines, and local varieties of Italian origin.
3. Develop supporting infrastructure such as stores and employee quarters, an irrigation system with an all weather borehole.
4. Enter into a grapes for wine contract with a local vintner, they do produce some award winning wines.
5. Pay my investors in wine, in order to reduce shipping and handling costs, bag in box wine containers should do, so that you will have to bottle the wine at destination. For those that can handle the extra cost, I could ship the wines in bottle or those high capacity metallic containers.

Grapes are also used in the manufacture of brandy, so that could also be part of the bag.


Tell us how you are qualified to do what you say you are going to do.


I am a farmer, technology enthusiast and live in a wine producing region. I'm also always on the lookout for projects that have a good return with minimal engagement, which is what is often called passive income, but sine I'll be running the farm, the passive income will have to wait until am able to package it and sell to a bigger operation.


Tell us how this will make more bitcoins for both of us.


The wines once delivered can be resold. But, its also possible to get paid directly upon delivery of the grapes to the vintner.


Tell us how you are going to prove that you are doing exactly what you said you were going to do in the previous questions.

From using online farm management Apps, to being transparent all along the way. I'm not from the US, so I'll work with the legal process in my country in order to ensure all avenues for legal redress are available. It would also be wonderful to convert part of the farm into a wine tourism spot, so that all and any of you can coe have pleasure while doing business.

Yes, thats about it.

I have been considering creating a token on counterparty, or NEM, or maybe even creating an Alt, though an alt would increase costs. Considering the investors will be receiving the product as pay/benefit instead of cash, would this still be a security?

What is the best way to go about it outside of startjoin.com, banktothefuture.com or swarm.fund which seems to have apoptosed?

Would a translation into Swahili count?

An easy way to get your wallet nodes populated is to get the IP address of chainexplorer.info, there are various ways of doing it online, and the rest of them just hook up their wagons.

Otherwise good to see the horse bolted, and in that light, I requested cryptopia.co.nz to add TiPS to their exchange, but they have a voting system, so are we doing this? Please head over and vote.

After thinking about it what I had in mind was that the Refund system should be totally wallet based. Using a micropayment architecture so that the clients feel they have not lost control of their funds. Meanwhile, it will also reduce the calls to customer support.

Yeah, T(r)oll passes may be needed in some of the T(r)oll boxes around.

Hi Guys,

While most discussion is centred on price and marketing, am seeing little discussion of the technical underbelly of this appcoin. I believe we can help suggest features and iron out any kinks, even if its just a mind game.

For instance: Was wondering, since cars are becoming smarter every day, why not have the car pay for its parking? What would it take for such an eventuallity?

Meanwhile, there are several payment structures available to crypto, which would be te optimum, in usage and impact on product marketing?