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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
I strongly advice a visual graph of the supply of GLD against "theoretical" Dutch adoption in the OP

So, what is holding you back to create such graph?

BTW, it's NLG, not GLD.

I'm not the dev behind this coin... I'm just suggesting! Take it or leave it.

But trust me the Dutch people won't buy a coin just because it is called Gulden!

The Dev need a story to tell and the story of having 1.7b coins without a theory behind and 100 gulden for Dutch Mobile owner is flawed. Unless you get Dutch Telecom to sponsor it Wink

That is only my view. I think this community is interesting so I'm pointing out ideas to hopefully make it better

Again take it or leave it!

I now own 5k Gulden that is how I will support this coin and it's community. If I see this coin going to the right direction I will buy more

Good luck to all

62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 07:50:12 PM
@/GeertJohan, Great! Good to hear something from the devs.

Can someone think about adding short selling to NLG since the Dutch were the first one to use/invent short selling I'd like to see an option to short sell this coin... I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism so I highly encourage someone to think about it!

One, f*cking big question: WHY?

NLG is not going down. Buy them now while they are cheap... this isn't your average scam-pump-and-dump coin.

Plus, if you really want to short NLG... ask the market places, not us.

I did explain why.... and I don't want to! I have never said that but it seems you can't read so

"I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism"


That is not an explanation; that is your personal belief (and maybe parroting what other people told you).  An explanation requires to explain what it does and HOW it helps the price discovery mechanism, backed by proof. Nothing of that was in your post.

You know what they say if you ain't Dutch you ain't much... Short selling is Dutch therefore...

Well since it's a controversial topic you will find that there are many opinions on it. If you google I'm sure you will find more than enough articles/research data on short selling.

Iosco (the international college of securities regulators) says: “Short selling plays an important role in capital markets for a variety of reasons, including more efficient price discovery, mitigating price bubbles, increasing market liquidity, facilitating hedging and other risk management activities.”

Sorry about the GLD mistake...

63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 06:34:33 PM
You can be a Dutch citizen and not have a phone number in the Netherlands, most of my family and I don't own one since we leave outside of the Netherlands... So this coin is for Dutch citizens or for people owning a Dutch mobile?

1.7b that's a lot of coins for a country with 18mm people... Why this amount make more sense than 18mm for example? what's the rational behind it?

Sorry I'm a little late to the party but I'd like someone to explain it to me... :/

Personally as a Dutch citizen I would like this coin to be attached in some way to Dutch Innovations/inventions e.g. Dutch East India Company (the oldest share in the world), The Amsterdam Stock Exchange, Joseph de la Vega (the oldest book ever written on Trading)... even if it's just a Wallpaper!  

Can someone think about adding short selling to NLG since the Dutch were the first one to use/invent short selling I'd like to see an option to short sell this coin... I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism so I highly encourage someone to think about it!

For more Dutch inventions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_inventions_and_discoveries

I like the community so I bought a few coins, I guess I'm patriotic like that Wink

i agree whit u from  an altcoin standpoint 1.7 billion coins is a lot

Then again 1.7 billion over 17 million people is not a lot at all
 
lets say 1 gld will be priced at the old ( 2.2 gulden per euro ) < lol i know but lets say

average person in holland urns ( min wage ) 1200 euro ( 2640 gulden per month after tax )
2640 x 17m  equals 44.880.000.000 coins per month needed if every one gets 2640 gulden per month Wink

so yea for an alt coin it might be considered a lot ( for a local economy its actually way to low )

now can one of u fill my buy order @ 387 over @ bitturex so i can finally get my hands on some gld Smiley

I see your point but there is 100,000,000 "GLD satoshis" in 1GLD so how many "GLD satoshis" in 1.7b coins? A lot...

I haven't seen the rate of generation graph, maybe someone could point me to a graph... e.g how many coins will there be in circulation in 3 years?

What is the rate of adoption in the Netherlands? How many people use it today? How many are projected to use it in 3 years?

How much "real" Guilders where in circulation by 2002?

I guess so far all I know is that the dev. used an arbitrary 1.7b of coins without any real economical, Historical or political reasons... and that anyone owning a Dutch mobile can get free coins...  

People in the Netherlands will not massively adopt this coin unless there is a story that make sense behind... and so far it make no sense to me


I believe it was to do with the population of the Netherlands * 100?

Which is more relevant then the 21 mil decided for bitcoin? Not sure if you know about Paysafegulden... this is a 1st for crypto so the coin is starting to bring out 1sts. The simulator the dev /GeertJohan is working on as mentioned above will be a first for Crypto currencies and I believe there is more projects from a user called openforbusiness that will make services for guldencoin that are crypto firsts.

So Dutch innovation seems to be well and alive here.



Actually 21mm was decided by "Satoshi Nakamoto" (maybe Arjen Lenstra) to mimic the supply of gold...

I think the OP should be clearer on the issue I put fwd

Best of luck to all


I don't see the correlation if you look at Gold supply or you talking about having a limited amount of coins because gold is limited?
It would be foolish to have too few coins, short term less is better but long term if you really want a thriving economy more is better, the main difference is the supply is predetermined where fiat supply isn't.



More or less agreed... It's more to do with mining of coins and mining of Gold that the total supply but yes being limited and predictability is important. Also let's not forget that 1btc can be divided in smaller fraction so  one day we might talk about 1 staoshi like we talk about 1btc today.  

"if you really want a thriving economy more is better" -1 on that this sentence makes no sense

I strongly advice a visual graph of the supply of GLD against "theoretical" Dutch adoption in the OP


64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 06:27:08 PM

Actually 21mm was decided by "Satoshi Nakamoto" (maybe Arjen Lenstra) to mimic the supply of gold...

I think the OP should be clearer on the issue I put fwd

Best of luck to all


Someone had a nice theory about this... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.msg6975327#msg6975327  Grin

Like it thanks...

Should be added to the OP
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 06:03:48 PM
You can be a Dutch citizen and not have a phone number in the Netherlands, most of my family and I don't own one since we leave outside of the Netherlands... So this coin is for Dutch citizens or for people owning a Dutch mobile?

1.7b that's a lot of coins for a country with 18mm people... Why this amount make more sense than 18mm for example? what's the rational behind it?

Sorry I'm a little late to the party but I'd like someone to explain it to me... :/

Personally as a Dutch citizen I would like this coin to be attached in some way to Dutch Innovations/inventions e.g. Dutch East India Company (the oldest share in the world), The Amsterdam Stock Exchange, Joseph de la Vega (the oldest book ever written on Trading)... even if it's just a Wallpaper!  

Can someone think about adding short selling to NLG since the Dutch were the first one to use/invent short selling I'd like to see an option to short sell this coin... I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism so I highly encourage someone to think about it!

For more Dutch inventions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_inventions_and_discoveries

I like the community so I bought a few coins, I guess I'm patriotic like that Wink

i agree whit u from  an altcoin standpoint 1.7 billion coins is a lot

Then again 1.7 billion over 17 million people is not a lot at all
 
lets say 1 gld will be priced at the old ( 2.2 gulden per euro ) < lol i know but lets say

average person in holland urns ( min wage ) 1200 euro ( 2640 gulden per month after tax )
2640 x 17m  equals 44.880.000.000 coins per month needed if every one gets 2640 gulden per month Wink

so yea for an alt coin it might be considered a lot ( for a local economy its actually way to low )

now can one of u fill my buy order @ 387 over @ bitturex so i can finally get my hands on some gld Smiley

I see your point but there is 100,000,000 "GLD satoshis" in 1GLD so how many "GLD satoshis" in 1.7b coins? A lot...

I haven't seen the rate of generation graph, maybe someone could point me to a graph... e.g how many coins will there be in circulation in 3 years?

What is the rate of adoption in the Netherlands? How many people use it today? How many are projected to use it in 3 years?

How much "real" Guilders where in circulation by 2002?

I guess so far all I know is that the dev. used an arbitrary 1.7b of coins without any real economical, Historical or political reasons... and that anyone owning a Dutch mobile can get free coins...  

People in the Netherlands will not massively adopt this coin unless there is a story that make sense behind... and so far it make no sense to me


I believe it was to do with the population of the Netherlands * 100?

Which is more relevant then the 21 mil decided for bitcoin? Not sure if you know about Paysafegulden... this is a 1st for crypto so the coin is starting to bring out 1sts. The simulator the dev /GeertJohan is working on as mentioned above will be a first for Crypto currencies and I believe there is more projects from a user called openforbusiness that will make services for guldencoin that are crypto firsts.

So Dutch innovation seems to be well and alive here.



Actually 21mm was decided by "Satoshi Nakamoto" (maybe Arjen Lenstra) to mimic the supply of gold...

I think the OP should be clearer on the issue I put fwd

Best of luck to all
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 04:38:04 PM
You can be a Dutch citizen and not have a phone number in the Netherlands, most of my family and I don't own one since we leave outside of the Netherlands... So this coin is for Dutch citizens or for people owning a Dutch mobile?

1.7b that's a lot of coins for a country with 18mm people... Why this amount make more sense than 18mm for example? what's the rational behind it?

Sorry I'm a little late to the party but I'd like someone to explain it to me... :/

Personally as a Dutch citizen I would like this coin to be attached in some way to Dutch Innovations/inventions e.g. Dutch East India Company (the oldest share in the world), The Amsterdam Stock Exchange, Joseph de la Vega (the oldest book ever written on Trading)... even if it's just a Wallpaper!  

Can someone think about adding short selling to NLG since the Dutch were the first one to use/invent short selling I'd like to see an option to short sell this coin... I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism so I highly encourage someone to think about it!

For more Dutch inventions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_inventions_and_discoveries

I like the community so I bought a few coins, I guess I'm patriotic like that Wink

i agree whit u from  an altcoin standpoint 1.7 billion coins is a lot

Then again 1.7 billion over 17 million people is not a lot at all
 
lets say 1 gld will be priced at the old ( 2.2 gulden per euro ) < lol i know but lets say

average person in holland urns ( min wage ) 1200 euro ( 2640 gulden per month after tax )
2640 x 17m  equals 44.880.000.000 coins per month needed if every one gets 2640 gulden per month Wink

so yea for an alt coin it might be considered a lot ( for a local economy its actually way to low )

now can one of u fill my buy order @ 387 over @ bitturex so i can finally get my hands on some gld Smiley

I see your point but there is 100,000,000 "GLD satoshis" in 1GLD so how many "GLD satoshis" in 1.7b coins? A lot...

I haven't seen the rate of generation graph, maybe someone could point me to a graph... e.g how many coins will there be in circulation in 3 years?

What is the rate of adoption in the Netherlands? How many people use it today? How many are projected to use it in 3 years?

How much "real" Guilders where in circulation by 2002?

I guess so far all I know is that the dev. used an arbitrary 1.7b of coins without any real economical, Historical or political reasons... and that anyone owning a Dutch mobile can get free coins...  

People in the Netherlands will not massively adopt this coin unless there is a story that make sense behind... and so far it make no sense to me
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 04:22:59 PM
Can someone think about adding short selling to NLG since the Dutch were the first one to use/invent short selling I'd like to see an option to short sell this coin... I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism so I highly encourage someone to think about it!

One, f*cking big question: WHY?

NLG is not going down. Buy them now while they are cheap... this isn't your average scam-pump-and-dump coin.

Plus, if you really want to short NLG... ask the market places, not us.

I did explain why.... and I don't want to! I have never said that but it seems you can't read so

"I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism"

68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Coin Sale 1st phase ended | PoB | Poker Celebrities | Fantasy Sports on: November 30, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
AAAAAND IT'S GONE?
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] Guldencoin.com/pay-here — Meet our awesome community on: November 30, 2014, 12:19:44 PM
You can be a Dutch citizen and not have a phone number in the Netherlands, most of my family and I don't own one since we leave outside of the Netherlands... So this coin is for Dutch citizens or for people owning a Dutch mobile?

1.7b that's a lot of coins for a country with 18mm people... Why this amount make more sense than 18mm for example? what's the rational behind it?

Sorry I'm a little late to the party but I'd like someone to explain it to me... :/

Personally as a Dutch citizen I would like this coin to be attached in some way to Dutch Innovations/inventions e.g. Dutch East India Company (the oldest share in the world), The Amsterdam Stock Exchange, Joseph de la Vega (the oldest book ever written on Trading)... even if it's just a Wallpaper!  

Can someone think about adding short selling to NLG since the Dutch were the first one to use/invent short selling I'd like to see an option to short sell this coin... I believe the practice is an essential part of the price discovery mechanism so I highly encourage someone to think about it!

For more Dutch inventions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_inventions_and_discoveries

I like the community so I bought a few coins, I guess I'm patriotic like that Wink
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CureCoin - Earn while you solve cures for Cancer. True 3.0 crypto on: November 26, 2014, 06:14:40 PM
Unfortunately this coin is slowly dying....

Please dev. hurry up with the cc 2.0 before it is too late 
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bittrex / Poloniex / Cryptsy All Coin Trading Software, Quatloo Trader. on: November 21, 2014, 11:44:20 AM
this was working for 36 hours...

now im getting

http://prntscr.com/586ro1

might fix this bug nothing works cant load any accounts and therefore not activated... does this app depend on any of YOUR servers ?

close and restart the application
yeah done that..same shit

Restart your computer and check your API on Bittrex... but the prob. is not from the application.

72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Sale *Last Day Bonus* | PoB | Poker Celebrities on: November 20, 2014, 10:52:21 PM
How long will the second coin sale last?


-tb-


We are going to keep it short.  Possibly anywhere between 7 or 14 days.  Most likely in the lower range. 

Breakout Gaming will provide access to create accounts and test software for all potential buyers of the second coin sale BEFORE our coin sale re-opens.

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.

When will it start?
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Sale *Last Day Bonus* | PoB | Poker Celebrities on: November 20, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
Still no platform? I understood that we would get a working platform by the end of ICO. not a poker video
When can we expect to have a working wallet and get our coins?
Another change in strategy? Why? Get in touch with an exchange and market this coin better or get outside investors like you suggested before
Please keep your words and keep the coins at current price changing all the time is not very professional and I don't want to check everyday this thread to know what is happening.

Now I have BTC's stuck with you guys for 1 month and I have no idea what is going to happen in the next few days/weeks. I was not expecting to have to wait for a xmas miracle. that's not very cool!

Get your house in order ASAP

thanks,
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bittrex / Poloniex / Cryptsy All Coin Trading Software, Quatloo Trader. on: November 20, 2014, 10:58:48 AM
this was working for 36 hours...

now im getting

http://prntscr.com/586ro1

might fix this bug nothing works cant load any accounts and therefore not activated... does this app depend on any of YOUR servers ?

close and restart the application
75  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] on: November 18, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
Today's the day, have fun in court Kenny-my-lad.

What's the story? can you elaborate please?
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Current wallet 0.9.5 on: November 15, 2014, 11:08:21 AM
Hi,

Anyone think that 190k mined coins already is a problem?

thanks all
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bittrex / Poloniex / Cryptsy All Coin Trading Software, Quatloo Trader. on: November 10, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
I use the program now for a week and found some parts that could be enhanced:

1. it would be nice to have the same column order for different exchanges, also the same font!!!

2. it would be better to use a different color schema for each exchange

3. BITtrex BaseCoinValue is the default sorting

4. CEX_IO has no accounts listing

5. CEX_IO Marketing History does not mention WHAT was traded

6. Export to Excel for decision making information is good, but Common markets is missing

7. One error popped up saying that I must have at least 1000 QTLs to operate the program, and I have 4000. This error does not go away till you restart the program!!!
I have 3 windows open and had to set all for each trading pair again, ... It would be nice if we could use templates, or if the last setting for EACH coin would be saved automatically

8. Auto refresh after placing order does not work, if it is traded via auto pilot.

agreed and more

9) Option to edit an open order would be nice

10) In trader add the quantity when we press on BTC balance

11) On Cex.io add GHS/BTC and GHS/USD in account when click left

12) 1 page with the total amount of crypto in each excahnges (going to each account for every exchanges every time takes too much time)

13) Add the VWAP for each coin and add a VWAP calculator/Timer

14) Add cost in BTC and crypto on whale tasks when we press place order

15) More Exchanges (BTER, Bitsamp, Havelock, BTC-e, MCXnow)

16) A chat for users connected to the software

17) an auto update of the software

19) Add a faucet rotator/timer where we can upload our own list of faucets and our Addresses. (not sure if it's possible but would be nice)

20) Charts for Technical Analysis

21) Crypto/Bitcoin Breaking News

22) An option to see what is the avg price where we bought our coins

23) A price alarm

24) More algos:
            *% volume: buy/sell with % of volume
            *Volume Inline: Works the order in line with the volume
            *VWAP: Work to a VWAP benchmark driven by the historical volume curve
            *TWAP: Sends orders into the market evenly over time
            *PATHFINDER: Intelligently routes orders to all available liquidity venues
            *RESERVE: Places your order at a specific limit price, showing only either your specified display size to hide your full order quantity
            *Fake wall: put a wall up and remove the wall when someone try to buy or sell into it
            *falling knife: passively buy x amount in BTC of a coin that fall more than x %
            *Take profit: Passively sell x amount of a coin that raise more than x %

25) Add an auto trading bot

26) Advertise your platform on Reddit and other places
78  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] SCRYPT 4 GH/s hosted scrypt mining project by CRYPTX on: November 10, 2014, 09:40:28 AM
So I have asked Havelock to go to Cryptx and ask to update us on the reinvestment funds...

That was the answer: "At the moment there are no SCRYPT equipment on the market effecient enough to purchase .  They continue to look at all options."

What do you guys think?
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 08, 2014, 10:23:18 PM
I think we won't raise much more than 300BTC

What do you think dev, is that good enough?

They will sell whatever is left in a "private sale" that, before materializing, will be offered again to the community...

question is, at what price? They have said that it will be at the most expensive level of the ICO... which begs the obvious question: why would anyone pay a higher price for the private sale than what they could have gotten at any of the stages of the IPO? I believe that is very ill-conceived strategy and will, obviously, backfire.

That said, when and if a working platform is presented, before the ICO ends, as they have stated they will have ready and available for testing, some more sales will be achieved... although I doubt many more people is going to invest at higher prices than current.

As I have stated several times before, bringing this IPO without any product to show has been the opposite of brilliant.

My suggestion -once again- is to stop the ICO, issue refunds, and start all over when the product is ready for prime time. I am pretty sure the people who has already invested will maintain the same or higher level of investment and many people that want to see what you guys bring to the gaming table, will invest massively if it is in any way better than existing platforms. Massively. Timing-wise, if the new ICO could be presented withing a couple of weeks or three, it could be much better since the BTC price has stabilized -or so it seems-, but the key basically is that a lot of serious investors will simply not buy in without knowing what the platform looks like. In my opinion this is the best idea I have seen in crypto alts mostly wasted  by bringing it to the market place  prematurely. Premature ejaculation, as it were: The rush and the passion are there but... she did not get anything out of it.

You can't change the ICO every 3 days people will get pissed.

My suggestion is to get the platform working ASAP then extend the IPO until we get the fund needed.

We don't need to change the price or refund people it's a bad idea.

Private Sale get a less attractive price but they get to see a working product so it is much easier and much safer to invest.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 08, 2014, 02:28:09 PM
I think we won't raise much more than 300BTC

What do you think dev, is that good enough?
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