Both. I will not, however purchase 12500 URO without getting confirmation from the entities involved, with documented proof (from them, not some guys on a crypto forum) that they are indeed who they claim to be. Since I am unable to trace most of the urea suppliers or people listed as being in charge of the Urea or anyone for that matter, you should understand my reluctance.

you should know the facts before you assume that I did not mention that I represent a large group interested in investing in cryptocurrecny. I stated earlier that I would not be releasing that information because I am speaking for a committee of about 10 people and they do not wish the name of our group to be publicly published here until something is finalized. However...

since you guys will probably try to pick me apart and defend this coin blindly I will go ahead and show you the edited bulk of the message, which was over 2 pages long


I recently came across a topic on a forum that deals with cryptocurrency and found your project to be quite intriguing. I am involved with a group interested in investing some capitol into cryptocurrencies and think that a currency backed by a commodity would be a very wise investment.  I brought it up with my investment group at our weekly meeting on (edited) and we came to a unanimous decision to contact you for further details. I have reviewed the contract that was provided to me and given copies to my legal department to review and they came back immediately with a question about the contract.
    It seems that there are no company contacts for any of the alleged suppliers of the UREA. Before my group plans of investing this kind of capitol I would like to have my lawyers confirm some things. Do you have any contact information for your company other than an email address. That is a huge red flag for the legal dept. here as there would be no recourse for action if the deal fell through.
    Also, it has been brought to my attention that there is no verification process for the shipment other than a document which is backed by companies that I have been unable to trace to a source. The phone number you have on your website led to a man who would not tell me where he was located and had no idea what Urocoin even was.
    I would like some more information about your company and some contact information to set up a conference call with my group to clear up any legal issues before we proceed.



I go on to list our credentials, contact information, website, board of trustees, etc...

Asked them to put me in touch with someone who can help us broker a deal and they replied by giving me the email address I already have and saying my investment should be "based on confidence"

They really aren't giving me any reason to feel confident about anything I have been lead to believe about this deal or this company.

Well here you go. heres what was sent to me from GES :

Thankyou for the email.  Our office/s is located in Hong Kong, at this stage we are using a serviced office to deal Urocoin in Central, Hong Kong.  We also have 2 other office in Hong Kong.  The main reason we are not publishing our phone numbers online is due to alarming numbers of "annoying" phone calls received on daily bases.

Please understand that investments in to Urocoin should be based on your own confidence.

Follow the latest news and development on URO : https://twitter.com/GESystemsgroup   |      www.gescommodity.com
Yours Sincerely,      
Clifton Tang
Sales and Support
Green Earth Systems  Ltd, Hong Kong






So once again, not very inspiring... I asked for contact information and they gave me the email address I already have. A company brokering a deal that would eventually net them a huge gain would put me in touch with someone right away, not tell me that my investment should be "based on confidence."

This tells us nothing, not even proper English in the reply. Why would a multi-million dollar entity pull its contact info because of a few "annoying" calls?
Because it's Bullshit

I replied once again asking for them to put me in touch with somebody other than a sales associate. I bet I get another generic reply.

I will keep you posted

I live in an area that grows a large majority of the United States' citrus. This is our primary reason for interest in urea. My group works with logistic companies with NAFTA certifications and while I, personally do not have an importer's license, it was something I was well aware of when I brought it before the committee at our meeting. We already have a company in the Port of Brownsville that handles importing for us.

While I will not provide information about my investment group here on the forums, it was given in the email I sent with contact information and documentation to prove we are who we say we are. So if they really want to do business it shouldn't take long to hear back...

We will see

so youre telling me that because of a few prank calls, a multi-million dollar organization pulled their phone number off their website? Forgoing the potential new business they could generate by doing so? Sounds like a bullshit excuse to keep people on the line.

No business would actually do what you have suggested took place

This forum is already turning me away from wanting to proceed, but I will see what GES says. Until then I am done with you kids. I will post their response if I actually get one but I have a feeling the email account just leads to bohan or someone, not GES.

Prove me wrong, please

Why would I fly to China before even verifying that they are indeed who they say they are? Only a foolish investor would do anything you just suggested sight unseen...
Im trying to do some research. If they satisfy my requirements to do business, myself or one of my group's reps will be on the first plane out. Until then I'm trying to be optimistic but this forum makes it pretty tough to stay that way

Actually I'm talking about the money I made from Cloak, VRC and the legendary BC pump. I am up about 120k right now. Which is why I became a part of a local investment group. Do you think I would keep it in BTC when I can use a team of real investors to increase my revenue instead of trusting it to the crypto markets? Sure Im in voot. What does that have to do with anything? And I posted questions in UROs forum and was ridiculed wo of course I would have said it was a scam back then. You guys still cannot provide me any real proof of your legitimacy other than one email address?
That is whats really funny about this whole thing.
You guys claim all these major corporationsare involved, including the Indian Government, but you cant even give me a phone number that works?

you want me to put up 18k of my personal + another 200k of my investment group's money based on some guys word on an internet forum?!?!

I'll wait and see what response we get from the email. I am trying to set up a conference call with GES and my investment group.

I will keep everyone informed as to what happens

they have been contacted. I wanted to get some questions answered that my group brought up before I went ahead with the email, but since the only people on here don't seem to have any legitimate proof that I am actually contacting GES then I am waiting for a response from them to see if whoever is in charge of the company email can provide any proof.

Considering the DNS Panel on GES' site isnt very secure, I was able to all but verify myself as the owner of the domain and was a click away from creating my own but since I do not wish to start a shitstorm and be accused of hacking, which it was not. I went through the comapny's domain host, so no crime was commited.
Point is, in less than 10 minutes I could have had my very own @gescommodities account..

So thanks for calling a potential investor a troll while doing very little to actually prove your legitimacy.
Amazing way to do business

but that doesnt answer my question. How do I know that I am actually contacting someone from a legitimate company and not somebody who paid for address from that domain name?

I could get an email address from @gescommodities anywhere. there are tons of sites that let you pick exactly what you want your @domain to be

And you would think that a company this vested in a project would come and post at least a confirmation on this thread. To hear that they dont visit it at all is of no minor concern.
So again how would I know it is really GES contacting me?

and how am I to verify that it is someone from GES contacting me? The number I have for them got me someone who barely spoke english and had no idea what URO was...

I mean I can buy a.gov email address but that doesnt prove I work for the government

thats what Im saying. I cant find a number and the one I did call had no clue what I was talking about. They said they dont even know what UROcoin is.

They post this vague contract and if I am going to spend 18k on something, I need a face to face skype or at least a corporate contact. Which they dont seem to have other than the coin dev guy bohan and theres no way im giving him 18k.

also doesnt ARTICLE 17 in the contract prevent them from talking about who bought what and for how much? Yet here they are posting this info on the forums...

That document proves nothing at all except that someone is willing to draw up a contract. If I was going to spend that kind of money on URO and shipping costs, I would want to do business with someone directly, over the phone. Is there a way to do that? Because nobody in their right mind would order that kind of amount off a damn pdf...
So give me their number so I can call them and talk to either NIER or GES or RIVAA or ANYBODY that can actually place the order for me... and not Bohan
I made a killing on the markets last month so I can afford 12500 easy but I would never buy into URO unless I can talk to someone in charge

I don' t like the idea of hard deadlines in the programming world. "This week" or "Next week" is enough IMO. Let them work out bugs without the stress of meeting hard deadlines.

But we should tip them anyways! They are doing a lot of hard work.

I was hoping we would get the Market done first. Anon exchange is really awesome but if we beat Cloak to releasing our own market that accepts Voot it would be a game changer.

As long as its not "Proof of Dev"  
I am sick of people saying we need to personally know each Dev's real names and information.
BTC is doing pretty well and nobody's forcing Satoshi Nakamoto to dox himself.
This coin has all the transparency needs. A coin with an ANON exchange and soon ANON market should stay relatively "dark" as far as identities are concerned.

hey guys, ETA means ESTIMATED time of arrival. An estimate does not imply an exact time. Especially with programming. You should all already know this by now.

+11110100001001000000

thats a million in binary!