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61  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide on: March 24, 2014, 09:10:01 AM
Ignoring all the unwarranted reddit stuff,

Ignoring all that points and facts you can't refute ,I see.We can definitely see how well you will do in courtroom cross examination

That's true, specifically, we will get to determine whether the SEC will continue to maintain relevance in the future, or disappear into the unheard-of heap, alongside the Министерство финансов РСФСР, the Austro-Hungarian Schatzkammer, King George's Board of Trade, and other extremely important in their day, meanwhile disused institutions. At any time the SEC feels ready for the test.

Should/if the USA fallen like all the regimes those organisation were attached to your notion might be worth musing .Until then keep your fan fictions in more pertinent forums .I think I say for everyone here that  your speculative fantasy isn't something most of us are interested in.

At any time the SEC feels ready for the test.

Famous last word indeed.


it has been called such by people who make the topic their business, so that's what it is.

Sorry ,but what part of her twitter that mentioned your meaningless act of defiance as "outstanding"?
Unrelated shit is unrelated; don't delude yourself into thinking your retardation is novel or important - there's a lengthy list of equally confused idiots buried in my metaphorical forum back yard.

Ahh, ad hominems whiles still refuse to engage any of the issues I raised.Clearly you have won this debate.
Defiance was never the point, I'm sure. Whatever unresolved problems with authority you may be nursing and are presently allowing to bubble up in relation to MP and so forth aside, you can inform yourself on the topic by re-reading the ample commentary supplied by actually qualified participants, including my posts in this here shithole.

Which qualified participants that supported your points,again?I fail to see a single one.Besides , Andy Bowdoin's  attempt at  fighting against the SEC and "evil US government" was far more epic(divine comedy level ,even) than  your simple refusal to co operate with the SEC, albeit just as impotent.

Perhaps you you would  like to explain your position in scam and law related forums (like quatloos, or realscam e.g), many there actually have background and experience in both scambusting and legal matters. I'm sure they'll just as impressed as I am with your performance.The education you'll received there will be priceless.

Your brain doesn't work. Neeext.
62  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide on: March 23, 2014, 10:15:47 PM
Ignoring all the unwarranted reddit stuff,

My point is the inquiry (from what is gathered is about one of MPEX's "customers", not MPEX itself) is just a preliminary action.The real shebang could happen years from now(going at the historical pace of past investigations).

That's true, specifically, we will get to determine whether the SEC will continue to maintain relevance in the future, or disappear into the unheard-of heap, alongside the Министерство финансов РСФСР, the Austro-Hungarian Schatzkammer, King George's Board of Trade, and other extremely important in their day, meanwhile disused institutions. At any time the SEC feels ready for the test.

Don't delude your self into believing you have accomplished an outstanding act of defiance , that didn't work as well for Andy Bowdoin either.

Unrelated shit is unrelated; don't delude yourself into thinking your retardation is novel or important - there's a lengthy list of equally confused idiots buried in my metaphorical forum back yard. Course there is such a thing as invincible ignorance, but that works for groups not for the individuals.

An outstanding act has already been committed. This is, again, not for worthless you to establish; it has been called such by people who make the topic their business, so that's what it is.

Defiance was never the point, I'm sure. Whatever unresolved problems with authority you may be nursing and are presently allowing to bubble up in relation to MP and so forth aside, you can inform yourself on the topic by re-reading the ample commentary supplied by actually qualified participants, including my posts in this here shithole.
63  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide on: March 23, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
Great, so SatoshiDICE, its shareholders, MPEx and Erik Voorhees are all under investigation by the SEC.
Hope they all go to jail. Voorhees is also member of organized crime network "Bitcoin Foundation". Hope he get 10 years at least.

64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide on: March 23, 2014, 12:13:40 PM

Okay, but for something to be an unregistered security, it FIRST has to be a security.

A simple way to find out if something is a security or not is by applying the Howey Test(which is what security commission in most country apply).If that "something " fails that, it can be pegged as a security.

So at which point did "something to which no one holds any title, to which possession is at best tenuous and existence entirely virtual" manage to pass the Howey test?

Subquestion: if you own a Monopoly board, and some collegiate hookers move into a house down the street and start sucking cock for Monopoly dollars as part of their "orally experiencing the world" agenda, are you now to register with the SEC next time you invite some friends over for a game of Monopoly lest you end up selling unregistered mortgages in virtual Boardwalk and other properties?

Get your shit together, if you're not a lawyer you have absolutely no business pretending like you know better than the people who are actually involved in this game. You want to matter, and opine, go to school.

You give Satoshi no credit at all for "Bitcoin progress?"

Guy invented it. What progress? If a woman spends fifteen years raising a kid by herself, cause daddy split three years after the deed, do you want to credit the kid's progress to him?

I don't particularly care either way, but you say something like that to an irl crowd you'll get mugged.

You give no one on this forum any credit for "Bitcoin progress?"

Are you serious?

Definitely no one on this forum gets any credit whatsoever. You're all idiots.

And that part, now that part I mean.
65  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Project Reviews on: March 23, 2014, 12:13:01 AM
Disclosure: I been a long time customer of the owners of Quinto BTC, at one of their other sites, and support this investment.

In regards to being a shill, I do not get paid, just looking for other project since being introduced to cryptostocks.

MPOE-PR, I read what you write and you trash everyone unless they will go to your MPEx and pay a ridiculous price.  So IMHO your comments mean crap.

You're just a clueless noob. Speak when spoken to.
66  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is betsofbitcoin.in dead? on: March 22, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
I also have two open bets there, one of which had a resolution date of December 31st 2013 (the pirate SEC charges bet). Nothing yet. Is anyone able to dox Coinjedi?

Can't believe somebody still sent BTC there after their scandalous collusion with Inaba to fix BFL bets.

We just launched a (in our opinion) far better alternativ to betsofbitcoin:

Fairlay.com

We have a different betting system where you can choose your odds (you only need to find someone to bet against you) This way you always now what you will win and it did not depend on actions of others in the future how might have more information.

Here's what happened to a site just like yours, except that was being promoted by Zero Hedge.

You're not Zero Hedge. Do the math.
67  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Donate for World Water Day - Let's Reclaim Bitcoin's Power to do GOOD on: March 22, 2014, 11:11:43 PM
Hello Everyone,

We are welcoming The Water Project to collecting donations in Bitcoin - they recently announced they were accepting cryptocurrencies - https://thewaterproject.org/welcome-cryptos.php - and raising funds for clean safe water in a Sub-saharan African community.

Our support for this charity accepting Bitcoin and for bringing clean, safe water to those in need could certainly use some more help. BitGive kickstarted with 2 BTC and we have received about that much more from the community; however we are at less 30% of our goal.

Recently, the dogecoin community donated over $11k in one transaction to Charity Water and they are currently showing us up, BIG TIME.

Please help prove me right that the Bitcoin community wants to support charities accepting Bitcoin and wants to DEMONSTRATE THE SOCIAL VALUE OF BITCOIN by helping others in developing and 3rd world countries.

Tomorrow is World Water Day - Let's meet our $10K goal and support this charity and a community in Africa!

https://thewaterproject.org/community/profile/bitgive-foundation

Please help us do GOOD with Bitcoin!

Connie Gallippi
Founder & Executive Director
BitGive Foundation
http://bitgivefoundation.org/

EDIT: Proof if identity
https://twitter.com/conniegallippi/status/447118680975888385/photo/1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq4LfLCbcbc
http://new.livestream.com/500SAcc/Bitcoinference/videos/45690230

Great, maybe you can get your brother to stop being involved in fraudulent "foundations" like the Bitcoin Foundation.

Then maybe you can stop associating with scammy shit a la Doge.

Then maybe you'll be taken seriously. Probably not here, as this forum is patently insane, but generally speaking.
68  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide on: March 22, 2014, 11:08:16 PM
Your detachment from reality is why you will end up rotting in a jail cell when the SEC/feds are done with you.

It's about time we stop pretending that using funny money makes us immune to all existing laws as the people making those laws seem to think they still apply.

The sooner this community gets rid of these stains/schemes currently tainting the innovative and revolutionary world of bitcoin which they are piggybacking, the sooner we will make progress.

So far, Bitcoin progress in its entirety consists of MP's stuff, MPEx among it. Learn to live with the idea, as it's not going anywhere.
69  Economy / Securities / Re: Running Poker Site Looking for Investors on: March 22, 2014, 10:46:39 PM
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By carefully avoiding the statement of any actual data, all you've presented here is a suggestion that you're not capable of handling any sort of investment. See here.
70  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide on: March 22, 2014, 10:34:16 PM
What nuttiness.

The Securities and Exchange Commission is not a "fiat institution". They have nothing to do with issuing currency, or the banking system. They regulate investments sold to US persons. It doesn't matter how those investments are denominated. The investment can be be denominated in oranges, as in the Howey case. Or Bitcoins, as Trendon Shavers found out.

There's a substantial difference between oranges and Bitcoin. I wouldn't put too much stock in the tribulations of an anonymous Texas scammer before an equally anonymous Texas magistrate.
71  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Project Reviews on: March 22, 2014, 10:26:17 PM
QUINTO
Listed: 01 Mar 16:17   900,000
11 Feb 02:54   4,000,000
10 Feb 03:11   100,000
Name: Quinto BTC Lottery
Site:   www.quintobtc.com

Pros:
  • Have not found any yet.

Cons:
  • Giving away free shares of company
  • Ran a not profitable poker business or would not need the funds to open a lottery
  • Not even sure what they need that much Capital for to run a lottery site
  • Crazy return projections "With these numbers in mind, about 90% of IPO would be paid back in the first year, and is projected to achieve 200% within 18 months."
  • Gives investment advice in his 10 daily news updates.
    • Claims to have a Phd but have yet to see proof, people who hold Phd's generally are proud of that and display them
    • Always some "Deal to sell shares" act now or lose out type infomercial crap
      • This is going to be a utter failure and I think the owner is aware of it  Sad


      • BTC

      Investment Opportunity: NO

    Grade-A shill blockin'. Well done.
    72  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Popescu'd need not be a verb nor a discussion. All say aye.., say AYE!, "AYE!" on: March 22, 2014, 06:18:33 PM
    OP is in an abusive relationship with an elderly alcoholic named Ken Slaughter.  Textbook shit -- suppressed rage, inappropriately externalized emotions, grandiose verbiage.
    He's usually not a bother, there's a containment thread we started for him, "[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]," and he sorta keeps to himself there, but he gets out and shits up the forum once in a while. 

    That de-escalated quickly....
    73  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Popescu'd need not be a verb nor a discussion. All say aye.., say AYE!, "AYE!" on: March 22, 2014, 03:23:56 PM
    I loathe Mircea Popescu.  I wish this person no harm however.

    I believe in Bitcoin and shudder when I see maniacs like this taking centre stage for all the wrong reasons.

    THIS is why your parents warn you away from talking to strangers.  It's to avoid danger, no less.

    Mircea Popescu proffers not your acceptance, but commands centre stage.  Eek!

    Wake up.  Smell the ashes.  Fight to protect your own decisions and remove the decision making process from manipulators like Mircea Popescu.

    Honestly, just think twice about accepting the kinda stuff these people tell you.  Bitcoin or not.

    The Feds are hunting Mircea Popescu and ironically this very person who has trolled all the Bitcoin startups is finally getting his come-upance.  It's poetry in motion and not even Mircea is able to talk his way out of this one.

    So how is activemining these days?
    74  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: A working PREDICTION MARKET! - information should have a price, but fair one on: March 22, 2014, 03:16:16 PM
    We think it is more fair

    Quote
    Our facebook page will have more than 10,000 likes at the time of resolution.
    Please consider that it is possible for a third to influence the outcome. Take that into account if you bet.

    What exactly do you imagine "fair" means?
    75  Economy / Economics / Re: The solution is obvious on: March 22, 2014, 02:52:36 PM
    My first instinct was that this was a ridiculous idea. Then I remembered that these are the same masses that perceive $4.99 to be a dollar less than $5.00. So if education is not possible, perhaps simple mind games are the way to go.

    How 'bout if education is not possible, neither is having something good?
    76  Economy / Securities / Re: [Now IPO on ripple]coinspaces.com-altcoin exchange shares on: March 22, 2014, 02:26:05 PM
    We didnt expect that everyone can trust our ipo and we just try to make people trust us although only a few people will trust us.
    I can understand why u say those because there are too many scams.
    Everything we do is just a try,We don't know whether it will succeed or fail.
    However we can be sure we are not scamer.No matter how many people buy shares,our exchange will still lauch.
    I think time can prove everything.
    Thank u.

    Plenty of scammers start out without any intention of scamming.

    There are minimum requirements and competencies for taking on certain endeavors. You can fingerpaint until you make something you like all you want, but this isn't fingerpainting. You're soliciting from others. Nobody should be responsible for your trial and error approach but you.
    77  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cointelegraph.com the newest spam service on: March 21, 2014, 10:54:37 PM
    I just received the same PM, albeit the URL is *.

    BTW, thanks for making my head spin faster: http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-pr-almost-two-years-in-the-swamp-an-anthology/ (found via your sig).

    Remember, I opted for your toes as my wallpaper oppose to the other Maria's (remember her?) avatar.

    ~Bruno Kucinskas

    Well I didn't include the url for a reason you nooblet you.
    78  Economy / Securities / Re: [Now IPO on ripple]coinspaces.com-altcoin exchange shares on: March 21, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
    WHY we ipo on ripple?
    1.we first want to issue shares on crytostocks.com ,but if do that we cant move the shares to our exchanges,so we just can dividends on crytostocks.com.
    if we use ripple ,we can dock ripple and then coinspaces exchange can support deposit CSC from ripple.
    2.we will announce our ripple address and Ripple hashttps://ripple.com/#graph/r34PmKCUFRrhaGovx4BZEQ8jbvce9rvpX7 every one can use this to check how many CSC has been creat and sold.everything is transparent.we cant creat more and more CSC.

    Nah, the only reason you'd seek to use either of these is that you're out to scam or you haven't yet discovered that you can't invest on cryptostocks, and ripple is dead.

    I don't think any one person pointing out "grammatical errors" will do much good, ftr. If you're committed to serving the english-speaking marketplace it'd be a better idea to hire a competent translator for the purpose (though as it stands you'll need more than a polished translation to get to a viable offering here).
    79  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] COMKORT exchange on: March 21, 2014, 03:21:29 PM
    With so many new exchanges emerging lately, it is hard to find a differentiated product

    The correct way to differentiate yourself from the cruft would be trashing marketing posts like this and actually divvying up data people could do something with, such as who you are, what you've done, why you're qualified, what your plans are (explicitly), and so forth.

    If what you'd really like to do is write promotional pieces and come up with logos and post letterheads, go and do that, who's keeping you? If what you want is to run an exchange, however, see here.
    80  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interacting with fiat institutions [such as the SEC], a guide on: March 20, 2014, 11:53:27 AM
    The SEC is doing what it's supposed to be doing - investigating stock trading of unregistered investments.

    MPEx, "The Bitcoin Securities Exchange" is the problem. It doesn't matter what the stocks are denominated in. They're still investments. People have tried to get around this before. One scheme paid off in oranges. It was still a security.

    Remember GBLSE? Any questions?

    Question 1: how did you get the idea you had anything worthwhile to add?

    Question 2: remember who killed glbse?

    MPEx was here before the SEC, MPEx will be here after the SEC. As MP points out what's in question here is whether the SEC ever becomes relevant in this space, not the reverse. Hopefully they have enough sense to not waste this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

    This sucks for you guys and all of us. Personally, I feel like because the SEC is onto them, that it will become a big story with a sensational Bitcoin-fear mongering headline here in the US mainstream media. I feel like this would lead to trying to get the majority of the public Against BTC and trying to pass more restrictions on it in the U.S.

    Nonsense. They're some people trying to do their job. The idea is to get them to do their job correctly, properly, legally, and well. Rather than lazily, ineffectually, and confusedly (as they have so far). And they will, basically because it's not up to them in any sense. It's the job.
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