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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 08:31:44 AM
Guys, how about this coin?
I  did not see any highlight from the Des, is it worthy to mine or buy?

Welcome to Deuce,
hightlight? what do you mean buy highlight?
I wish I could buy! not exchanged yet!
im mining 24/7 and there are 200 other coins I could be minning,
what does that tell you?
Post above you tries to sell 700k for about a week. send him a pm...

Care to escrow for us?
No problem at all. DEUCE2BTC?
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 08:17:23 AM
Guys, how about this coin?
I  did not see any highlight from the Des, is it worthy to mine or buy?

Welcome to Deuce,
hightlight? what do you mean buy highlight?
I wish I could buy! not exchanged yet!
im mining 24/7 and there are 200 other coins I could be minning,
what does that tell you?
Post above you tries to sell 700k for about a week. send him a pm...
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 08:03:19 AM
i was just going to take a picture of it and upload, and it synced. at 8814 now
great Smiley
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 07:59:28 AM
lol, we are at 8814 now Smiley
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 07:58:19 AM
restarted client, now also seeing 2h behind. hitting up my tech team to see whats going on. opposite timezone though, its 3AM there
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 07:55:30 AM
thank you very much guys!

my wallet seems to be stuck on 2 hours behind and at block 8812. gonna let it go for some time. again my internet is from my wifi on phone and is over my usage, so is a slug

addnode=54.194.99.126
addnode 130.255.184.131

stick that in your config!
those are already in the config file when downloading the winQT
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 07:52:47 AM
thank you very much guys!

my wallet seems to be stuck on 2 hours behind and at block 8812. gonna let it go for some time. again my internet is from my wifi on phone and is over my usage, so is a slug
I am using thai 3G connection in a remote village with wifi for my notebook, and I'm not stuck at 2h behind, I am actual at the same block 8812 with new transaction confirming...
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 07:49:23 AM
what's the coin block retarget time?
every 2016 blocks
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 07:43:54 AM
lol. sorry i dont have a addy yet. is why i lost 50k on poolnetwork. i went to dl last week, but i have crappy internet and gave up

i have the sp client dl'ed now, and is all i need Smiley thank you very mch though!

edit-
am dl client for wallet now. is slow but is going gl for no error this time!


ok if ya wanna help a fellow out, much appreciated Smiley

LL3FdaQT8evpDUi4GadoYDe2EuD1it558q
Sent you some coins for helping out. Hold on to them. This will be the new poker money and I love it when it is held by a poker player
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 06:33:56 AM
As promised, here is the Mac OS wallet, but only works with 10.8 or later. If you want to get ready for the future, get updated Wink

https://mega.co.nz/#!ih5Vnb6D!F7kf4V9OuKCEbthZ3WUACpExiJLrRaKgGdC80gNKE4A
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 06:13:46 AM
i sure hope this one is better than PKR!

i try to dl satoshi client from the website and i get 404 rror Sad
The link on our website for download shows satoshipoker.org/download/SatoshiPokerSetup.exe which works for me...

thank you! that works Smiley

but the link to the "download it now for free!" button on your site points to this  satoshipoker.org/SatoshiPokerSetup.exe

and i get

Not Found

The requested URL /SatoshiPokerSetup.exe was not found on this server.
Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at satoshipoker.org Port 443
Wow, that is a HUGE blunder. Thanks for pointing that out! Will have that fixed in 15 minutes. Send me your Deuce address, so I can send you some love for being the first to point this out in almost one year the company exists  Shocked
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 06:11:05 AM
Some thoughts regarding the future of this economy (coin)

I intentionally wrote economy (coin) instead of coin, as a coin is just a name to measure the value of a certain economy devided by the amount of units of its total supply. The reason so many coins rise and fall is because of the speculative value of the coins but not because of their fair representation as share of the economy that uses that coin. In fact, most of the coins don't have a real economy, spendability or any safeguards against just being abandonned. The coins are led by people who have a single objective: maximum rewards for minimum effort. Notice how this board is filled with all type of suggestions, each different on number of blocks and way the coins get distributed. However, none of these coins have a system in place that backs the currency or gives it real base value.

Satoshi Poker's role in starting the economy

Spendability
In order for the DeuceCoin economy to succeed and grow, SP will keep pushing these coins and SP will always force any client on the network which we are building to accept the coin to ensure spendability of the coin. We are soon to announce our first client(s) on the network with in that case multiple people marketing while sharing the player's pool. Also the coins already in existance can (for now) only be used on this network, creating a spike in traffic and thus value of the coin among poker players. This will both ensure spendability of the coin, and except for supply also create demand by poker players who want to play these games.

Creating a base value
Besides just offering games in this coin, we are working to set up multiple systems which gives base value to the coin to be able to counter a pump and dump and guaranteeing a base minimum on it. At Satoshi Poker we currently have Cash Game Points, which is basically a VIP point system. One CGP represents 1 chip in rake (1btc/10k). We will set up a system in which players can exchange their CGP for DeuceCoin and use Deuce to buy bonusses, tournament tickets and merchandise in DeuceCoin. However, the tournament tickets that will be offered, will also contain entrance to BTC tournaments. At first this will be a cost for Satoshi Poker, as it has to provide the bitcoins for the prize pool, but when a poker tournament of max 100 players compete for a 1BTC prize pool, who all paid 1DEUCE for entrance, with guarantee that this tournament will be held daily/weekly it creates value for the coin as its value will be equal to 0.01BTC to any poker player. This is just an example of the possibilities to lock coin value when it is running in a poker client.

Amount of people contributing to the economy
As a poker site, supporting growth of a coin that offers its base value not just in trust from the community but interrelated with other cryptocurrencies (just as the global fiat community works) creates a more stable environment for the economy to grow in. When some multipools decide to dump their coins as soon as listed on an exchanger, the poker players that know what we are working on will buy up this coins. I mean, if they can buy it for 0.0000001BTC at cryptsy, knowing that we will start promotions which safelocks the coin at 0.01BTC they would be crazy not to buy a shitload of coins. And guess where they will spend the coins in the mean time? My skype, facebook and gmail have exploded with the number of people who are following this coin because they see value in it as poker player, not just as MPD (miner, pool or dev). In the end the MPD's are the mills, and thus far the competitive mills have failed to create a market. Economy consists of supply and demand, but demand from the creators and technically supporters of a coin is nothing compared to the demand from 1000 players playing daily with the coin on a poker site, who backs the value of the coin in BTC. That will ensure that the people contributing to the economy are not only the people who support the growth of the coin, but also the people who use it just to play the games they want to play.

Exchanger
When sitting in the 2 hospitals (Aranyaprathet hospital at Thai/Cambo border, and then Satuk hospital close to my gf's home) I have had a few days without any real access to internet while seeing my girl having her miscarriage. As she was asleep most of this period, whether natural or narcosis, I was sitting on the floor next to her bed with plenty of time to step out of the entire project and analyse it from a 3rd person's point of view. Here I began to form an idea which has not left my mind from the moment it got into it. Most coins try to get on an exchanger as soon as possible to ensure the coin can be exchanged for either bitcoins or litecoins. However, this brings with it the problem of multipools cashing out and destroying the value of the currency. Any serious currency must have possibilities for cashout to either BTC, LTC or Fiat, but it is a fundamental need for DEUCE, because serious poker players don't like to play in a currency that can't end up in their bank accounts and poker players are the bare base of this economy at its start.

My first thought was: f**k getting into any exchanger and lets build up the value within the SP system itself. On second thought, no economy (coin) can survive without either being locked into other economies (like most fiat and LTC), have too many people who invested in it (BTC) or a community depending on it for purchasing their base essentials (closed economies like for example Cuba or North Korea). As we don't have the foundation of a community depending on the coin and we don't have the amount of money invested as BTC, we are forced to have the DEUCE economy locked into other economies. Conclusion: DEUCE has to get listed on an exhange. Considering the need for poker players to cash out and have a minimum security that their funds are safe, and to secure the safety of the coin at exchanges, DEUCE only has one option: It has to get listed on Cryptsy and further analyse the other exchanges to make sure they offer a stable market with enough volume and enough trust by the community to get listed. I am working on that end.

However, with listing on an exchange comes also the risk of dumping by multipools as mentioned by other members here. I would have the option as SP to buy up these amounts to keep the price stable and distribute them back to the main community (poker players) in a stable way. However, I have a second, way more out-of-the-box option, by locking the price at a certain rate against bitcoin (see creating base value above), which would get the poker community to jump on the coins in case pools try to dump. In that case a healthy market of supply and demand is generated. Any breakeven poker player would jump into exhanges buying a coin for 0.0001 BTC when he knows it has a buyin value of 0.01 for recurring poker tournaments which are paid out in a currency that allows him to get the winnings on his bank account within at most a few hours.

Conclusion: DEUCE will be listed on Cryptsy soon and we are working with BitJohn towards getting it listed, but before it is listed and announced, we will make a guarantee towards it's relative price to bitcoin for games in our Room/Network.

Conclusion
For the people that dropped comments like 'dev has been away for 72 days, I am moving on' I suggest you do so and hope you will prosper in what you do. The people in here that are educated in the fundamentals of economics know that an economy isnt built in 72 hours. I have started DeuceCoin because I believe in it and because I believe Satoshi Poker gives it the ultimate possibilities and perspective to make it a coin to be reckoned with. If it was just for the fact that the coin was built buy somebody who actually does give a f**k and has a vision. You might not agree with that vision, but a project led by a vision will outgrow any project that just focusses on short term profits.

Thats kinda what i had to get of my chest Wink

73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:57:58 AM
thank you, sir!

that answered my question about poker..

i wish your business a favorable development, and your family and relatives a good health!
Thanks a lot. My girlfriend is recovering well. Kinda shows that health is the most important thing in life. Still hurt by the loss of the upcoming baby though  Sad

74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:55:43 AM
Pkr coin DEv`s started same way.....many plans.....many projects.......dreams.....they were always very busy because were working very hard on de development of his coin......and all of the sudden....from one day to the next.....they dissapeared....never answered any message, private neither on the forum.

And with deucecoin will happen the same. believe me.....waste of time!!!   at the end you will give me the reason.
By which you ignore the fact that I have been running a poker site for almost a year now. PKR were in it to sell the premined coins and they made a few thousand bucks from it. If you have any knowledge of SP you wouldn't make a post like this. Good luck with your new coin.

And to not let you wait till the end, i give you the reason right now:
DeuceCoin will prosper because of vision and dedication.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:52:12 AM
Hey dev.. don't let your coin die...  Huh
I will die before my coin or Satoshi Poker does. Period.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:51:25 AM
I will not mine at deuce.internetarena anymore.
I just left that pool because I saw a miner in there with over 100,000khs in there.
guess the multis are on this already. or someone rented a farm for a day!
we all know those millions and millions of coins will be dumped onto exchange ASAP and will destroy this coins valuve.
I understand its a ugly part of cryptos and cannot be prevented.
not pool owners fault, of course!  but if pool cared even a little about the coin they wouldn't allow it.
wouldn't bother me if Bitcoinflush said, nah it was me who rented the farm for a day.
at least I know there not getting insta dumped on the first exchange and crushing any and all value to this coin.
I really hate this part of cryptos.  Angry
just turned me off and felt like venting/sharing!
sorry for wasting space here.


+1

Secret ASIC maybe?
Out of this world greed is killing crypto.
Remembers me of those SCI-FI movies where a alien race comes to hearth and try to  steal our natural resources as fast as they can.

Now that is an interesting subject for thought. Not the ASIC or SCIFI, but the greed that kills most crypto's:
Look at how long it took before BTC seriously took off. Sure, for a quick buck some other coins can be nice in a pump and dump. This can happen to any coin. The real issue is the entire community walking away from a coin after the dump and with most of the coins having no real value and no real vision behind it except for a decent story to generate the jump in the first place, the coin dies. We think to have an answer to this situation, but I decided to delete it from this post and make a new post about it

77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:37:30 AM
Attn. to Satoshi Poker administrator:

hi

i was not successful to reach you by PM or on support thread, therefore i've decided to ask you here:

i have recently registered on your poker, but experienced this issue:
> i got no personal deposit address [says address pool invalid - personal address not available]

can you help me with some advice, please?!

regards
Hey, I have been unavailable unexpected due to visa renewal and miscarriage, my backup for SP support was on travel to a coin summit. I already instructed the team to look into this issue and will reply to your PM ASAP. Apologies for the delay and I hope I can count on your understanding.

Thank you for playing @ SP!
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:34:19 AM
This coin is indeed just like PKR.

-No dev.


Agree. Another waste of time as PKR. Dev are lost, may be they are with PKR Devs  Grin




Lol,

The people here that I already have on facebook/skype know that after clearing some visa issues my girlfriend had a miscarriage and have been spending my time in a remote border town at the Thai/Cambodian border with no internet resources, and then had to attend a shitload of Buddhist rituals which I didn't understand but had to follow. This doesn't stop DeuceCoin however, just as any issues of not being available for a couple of days ever stopped SP.

If you are in this for the quick pump and dump than this coin is not for you. This coin is not just another coin with fancy name where you can mine millions and hope it moves to $0.10. This is a coin with vision and perspective. I will prove you wrong once the first clients will launch on Satoshi Poker Network and when you see what will happen just the coming week in terms of development.

I know this is a space in which you are boom or bust within a few days and I respect your decision, but that boom/bust scenario only goes for the people who get in to get out 2 weeks later with some profit and move on. This coin is not for people with this vision. Comparing us to PKR is just silly. This whole coin was created because they didn't have their things in place, and when we started we were already ahead. Just by the way they conduct their business.

I wish you good luck on finding another coin though Smiley
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:20:05 AM
I will not mine at deuce.internetarena anymore.
I just left that pool because I saw a miner in there with over 100,000khs in there.
guess the multis are on this already. or someone rented a farm for a day!
we all know those millions and millions of coins will be dumped onto exchange ASAP and will destroy this coins valuve.
I understand its a ugly part of cryptos and cannot be prevented.
not pool owners fault, of course!  but if pool cared even a little about the coin they wouldn't allow it.
wouldn't bother me if Bitcoinflush said, nah it was me who rented the farm for a day.
at least I know there not getting insta dumped on the first exchange and crushing any and all value to this coin.
I really hate this part of cryptos.  Angry
just turned me off and felt like venting/sharing!
sorry for wasting space here.

I think it is morally wrong to set up a farm that gets most of the coins. It does provide some short term stability but we would basically become a new central bank with possibilities to influence the currency and that is exactly what every sane coin should fight. If multipools are around and if they wish to dump the coin as soon as it makes some value, they are making a mistake in my opinion and providing the market with cheap coins. For the people that have seen me run SP for over a year now: I don't give up and I won't base my decision to move on based on the value of this coin but I will move on based on my vision. 9 months ago people were betting if Satoshi Poker would last another month. Now we are here trying to get a new standard into crypto currency based poker, and trying to launch our network...

However, I might be willing to provide some bitcoins to buy Deuce in case any multipools decide to dump. But I won't ever take such measures without setting up a vote first
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [DEUCE] - Deucecoin - Launch on Satoshi Poker - Start your free poker skin on: March 28, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
During the day of today....I have been watching Satoshi Poker web......I have been looking how many people play at the same time, and right now, there are 3 people.....and during the whole day....was 6......anybody thinks that with such traffic Deucecoin is going to be used on this page??? Dont think so...

No worth to keep mining this coin.

Dev has a lot of work to do.

agreed ... but you should be glad that your here now able to mine the coin at the lowest diff it will ever be.
this way when the dev "does his work" 6 months from now you will be greatly rewarded with large holdings.
 Grin   personally if I get to mine a coin that is stealth and launches under the radar im more than happy!
im pretty sure that as soon as its announced that deucecoin is now accecpted on satochi poker you will see a flood of traffic.

I agree with both. I have a lot of work to do, and people are itching to play with their coins. This will also bring traffic. Just watching the client for a few hours is not enough to base your opinion upon. In online poker, every day is different, hence the difference in tournament schedule and there are multiple 0, down, semi-peak and peak hours during the day. Compare 6 hours during sunday eve with 6 hours from monday 7AM-1PM and you will see two entire different sites, while it is in the same 24h timespan...

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