CoinJoint.info is now testing and will be releasing a write-up about Quatloo Trader to coincide with a  v2.0 release

Scott,

Give us a chance to work the kinks out.  We are only just now learning how to customize the vBulletin platform and integrating everything with a cryptocurrency is something that's never been done before.

In addition, give Peezor a chance to figure out how to give users customization abilities for this feature.  It's not as simple as adding a "Yes" or "No" button.

I can guarantee you that all of your concerns and the concerns of others are heard and all of our plans include addressing those concerns while not abandoning the project.

Cheers,
Patrick

Yes, I've heard you have a personal vendetta Jameson and Peezor.  I don't know anything about this to be honest.  If you want to spell out to me your story, but please do not lump me in as a criminal or a scammer.  I've been working on blockchain technology for 2 years and I am really just a computer nerd with a passion for Cannabis.

Why don't you just spell out your threats on here for everyone to see?  What's your real name by the way?

There are many people engaged in trolling there... trying to pick fights and create drama.  They want to blame Cannacoin, Peezor, Jameson, for the collapse of the community on NWGT but in reality it is these people who are destroying it with their negative attitudes towards pretty much anything that they don't agree with.

That being said, there's so many wonderful people on NWGT I think that this turbulence is only temporary and if anything, NWGT is really just going through some long-term growing pains regarding it's direction. 

Anyone who followed the BBQ drama knows that there's a lot of talk sometimes but not always a lot of action.  We are trying to invigorate the community even if there's some initial resistance to it.

There's a lot of confusion and misunderstandings regarding Cannacoin.

We will be adding Cannacoin to the forum as a means for tipping other users. Right now, if someone gives some great advice, there's no way to compensate them other than saying, thank you.

We want to encourage really good content and create an incentive for people to be good community members. One way to do this, is to have a Cannacoin wallet integrated with the website. You will be able to tip other users with Cannacoin.

Why use the blockchain technology for this? For starters, it offers a completely decentralized, transparent, and community driven ledger. All transactions and information is transparent via the blockchain explorer.

With the decentralized blockchain, we don't have to build a ledger and a server to host transactions and security. The technology is cryptographically secure.

All we are doing, is essentially adding a micro-payment ecosystem on top of NWGT.

Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. This is not a democratic decision. This is the vision of the operators of NWGT. If you believe in Jameson and JP, you will support them in their vision of creating a truly unique social, economic, and political organization under the NWGT name.

Cheers,
Patrick

http://www.nwgt.org/showthread.php?21041-The-purpose-of-Cannacoin-on-NWGT

I'd like to share something with everyone here to understand my thought process on business, decision making, and taking action.

My experience with "community decision making" is a lack of the ability to take action, make decisions, and try new things for fear of "not achieving perfection". I always hear this from idealists: "Let's come up with something really cool before we make any changes or try something new." or you've probably had this experience with your spouse or roommates. You say, "Let's try moving the couch and TV over here, and the table over there, and switch things around to see if this works better" and you are met with "No I don't think that's a good idea, I like it this way, and there's no need to change it" This is why some retail stores always look the same, year after year, and some homes look the same, year after year, and some people are always the same, year after year. They are afraid to try something new for even a few days. And 10 minutes after you make the changes they say "I don't like it". Well of course they don't like it, because it wasn't their idea and they are afraid to let go of their incessant need to control. They are afraid of change, and this is one of the biggest causes of human suffering in the world - fear of change.

It is good to be critical and have discussions, but don't criticize or counter other's ideas without offering solutions otherwise you are essentially trying to control the way others think rather than trying to solve a problem through cooperation.
One of the greatest businessmen I ever worked for taught me some great lessons on how to be successful and here's some of what I took away from him.

First: Don't ever wait for others to try something new. Just do it. Try it for two weeks. Don't stand around and argue about small details. You often will never know if something works unless you try it. Many people do things the way they've been taught for years because they believe it's the best way. What is the worst thing that can happen by trying something? You can always try something else.
This is why it doesn't hurt to try something new. If it doesn't work out, at least you've learned something. If you never try new things, then you will never have that opportunity to learn.

Second: Don't take anything personal. Holding grudges and overinvesting emotionally in your own thoughts and ideas of how things should be usually leads to exhaustion. One becomes exhausted when they care too much and don't see reciprocation. It's not about you, and it's not about me.

Third: Don't ever be afraid to walk away. Sometimes walking away is the best way for things to sort themselves out. People often do not take action unless you give them space to take action. If you are constantly there try and solve all the problems then others cannot attempt to solve these problems.

Fourth: Cut your losses. If you find something is not worth your time and energy, and you've invested money into it and are afraid to go left or right, write off your losses and chalk it up as a lesson learned. The thousands of dollars I've lost on different ideas has provided me with much better learning experiences than the tens of thousands of dollars spent going to a University.

A lot has been discussed about proof-of-work versus proof-of-stake in regards to decentralization of a cryptocurrency. Both of these methods of transaction signing attempt to solve the unsolvable: fairness and decentralization.

On one hand, early miners of any proof-of-work coin are essentially rewarded with a lot more coins because of the low difficulty. In history of some coins, these people have sometimes been referred to as "insta-miners". A pre-mine is when a coin is already mined prior to being released. Any coin with a pre-mine is highly suspicious if not completely defunct from the get-go. With a lack of any shareholder oversight or board of directors with public voting power, any pre-mined coin is a potential scam despite the promises of an anonymous developer (which are clearly worth nothing).

In a proof-of-stake network, those who have more coins staked will receive more coins (it is proportional). Therefore, one is only shifting the idea of "fairness" from one group to another. From the early comers to the larger holders. Either system is rewarding investors for their investments. And both systems are fundamentally the same from an economic perspective: expending resources (time and money) in order to acquire other resources (coins). Whether you do this through mining or purchasing coins, is an irrelevant part of the economics picture.

Just because you cannot mine a pure proof-of-stake does not mean you can not exchange work for coins. You are just exchanging a different type of work - money and time that you buy Bitcoin with that you exchange for other coins.
The real fundamental flaw in proof-of-work consensus is the 51% attack. This is what Jed McCaleb designed Ripple for - solving the issue of network security and how to prevent double-spending.

Ripple and NXT are clear proof that other methods of consensus can accomplish the same goals as a proof-of-work network, because they move the work off the blockchain and into the real-world, where instead of exchanging electricity (money) for coins, you exchange money (money) for coins.

What are we doing here? We are changing the incentives and methods of transaction signing.

From an economics perspective, it doesn't matter if I pay you with 4 quarters, 1 dollar bill, 10 dimes, 150 pesos, as long as you accept them as payment, they are good currency. How those coins were acquired are of little interest to a merchant. He doesn't know if you stole that money, earned it through hard work, won the lotto, or inherited it.

He only cares that he received the financial compensation in exchange for his goods and services.

In the grand-scheme of things, we are seeing from Bitcoin, Ripple, NXT, FIAT currencies, Gold, etc is that currencies are not used because they are decentralized -- they are used because they serve as a medium of exchange.

If it was about decentralization, Bitcoin would have already lost, because the majority of the network is controlled by only a handful of massive mining operations.

What are some problems with investing through proof-of-work? It causes money to flow into wasting excessive amounts of energy. Money that could be spent investing in other areas of the network are instead invested in maintaining a ledger (blockchain) through wasting computing cycles on brute forcing SHA256 or Scrypt hashes.

Ripple, NXT, and other methods of consensus don't force people into putting work into a coin in order for the marketplace to work. Instead of expending resources on maintaining an inefficient network - resources are expended on building on top of a network. Using that electricity and money to build something - not just prove to the world that your network is 5% more decentralized than someone else's network.

Because at the end of the day, decentralization and fairness are completely subjective.
I could argue from every direction all day, but the bigger questions - what is the best approach to building a network and what offers people the easiest way to become a part of the network?

Do we really expect everyone to setup miners and ASICs in their basements? Or buy video cards? Are we not excluding the poor and those with the least amount of tech knowledge from participating?

Continuing with proof-of-work will continue to exclude non-tech people in participating in the network, and it certainly doesn't solve the decentralization problem either.

I applaud the idea of Bitcoin and the work of Satoshi Nakamoto, but there's only one coin that proof-of-work has really worked out for over the long-term and that is Bitcoin. The majority of others are just copy-cats with some extra gimmicks that add very little real-world utility.

So I ask to myself, what is the purpose of the Cannacoin network? How can the blockchain be used in other aspects of our lives other than currency? Why isn't participating in a decentralized network as simple as downloading and running a client (e.g.: p2p file-sharing, NXT staking)?

People are rewarded for running a bit torrent client because they get access to the network and all of it's resources.
There's no incentive at all to run a Cannacoin client. And even those who are mining will find they cannot actually recoup their investment because any selling would crash the price of the coin.

What happened to all of that work? I will tell you.

Nearly all of the proof-of-work that flows into Cannacoin and other altcoins is transferred right into Bitcoin.
Neither proof-of-work nor proof-of-stake solve the problem of fairness and decentralization.

At least proof-of-stake gives more people an opportunity to participate in the network and gives an incentive to running a client.
It also gives those of us with large quantities of Cannacoin the opportunity to gift those coins to Northwest Green Thumb so that even the least technical person has the opportunity to become a node on the network by simply running a client.

I currently hold 169,900 Cannacoins, and hope that one day we can move to a proof-of-stake network and that I can gift most of these coins to NWGT members so that we can further decentralize the network.

I would also like to work with SirPokeSmottington in setting up a Cannacoin Foundation and a Cannacoin Reserve that acts as a central fund for coin development and growing our political, social, and economic movement.

Coins staked from this fund would be completely transparent and given to NWGT members as rewards for community involvement. Through democratic means, all funds staked from these coins would be put to a public vote on NWGT.org.

Cheers, Patrick

Any input is welcome and appreciated.  Cheers

http://www.reddit.com/r/cannacoin/comments/2c6zj4/proofofwork_or_proofofstake/

Details on how to connect to the meeting will be shared in #cannacoin on Freenode IRC on Wednesday at 12pm Pacific, we will use Mumble: http://www.mumble.com/get-mumble.php

Pre-meeting: 2:45pm

Meeting: 3pm

Post-meeting discussion: 3:30pm

The meeting will be short, 30 minutes, so that we can accommodate those with tight schedules. We will not divulge into technical or theoretical discussions. The purpose of the meeting is to get straight to the point what our current priorities are, what people are working on, and what people can do to help others.
If you have a topic that you would like covered in the meeting, please post a reply here.
I will post a topic schedule for the meeting on here prior to the meeting at 2:45pm.
Please join us for the pre-meeting and be ready to start at 3pm. Any discussions that are time consuming and not urgent can wait until 3:30pm so that we don't get sidetracked to much.

UPDATE

PRE-MEETING:
Make sure everyone has seen this list.

MEETING TOPICS:

1) Cannacoin Miner promotion 30 Mh/s - logistics of distribution, utilization, IronJuggernaut, SubCreative, Greg, John
2) NWGT Apparel, Cannacoin banner, guerilla marketing - Jameson? Patrick?
3) Promotional template for dispensaries Patrick, Jameson, Josh, John
4) Updates from Subcreative and Phil on Cannapay
5) Discuss algorithms - We are now actively discussing switching algorithms and Proof-of-stake is on the table as a method of securing the network.


POST-MEETING TOPICS

1) Creating a new Cannacoin Logo, using existing logo as Mascot (Dave Dabsman?, Harry Hashworth?, Wayne Waxman?, etc)

Everything is going well, thanks.  Look forward to seeing you on IRC.  My next post here will be the topic schedule for the meeting.

Cannacoin Meeting - 3:00pm Pacific Time - Wednesday July 30th - Be ready to participate by 2:45pm

http://www.reddit.com/r/cannacoin/comments/2bzv1m/cannacoin_meeting_300pm_pacific_time_wednesday/

Details on how to connect to the meeting will be posted on our Reddit on Wednesday at 12pm Pacific, we will use Mumble: http://www.mumble.com/get-mumble.php

Pre-meeting: 2:45pm

Meeting: 3pm

Post-meeting discussion: 3:30pm

The meeting will be short, 30 minutes, so that we can accommodate those with tight schedules. We will not divulge into technical or theoretical discussions. The purpose of the meeting is to get straight to the point what our current priorities are, what people are working on, and what people can do to help others.

If you have a topic that you would like covered in the meeting, please post a reply on the reddit.
I will post a topic schedule for the meeting there prior to the meeting at 2:45pm.

Please join us for the pre-meeting and be ready to start at 3pm. Any discussions that are time consuming and not urgent can wait until 3:30pm so that we don't get sidetracked to much.

Thanks, Patrick

We are a small but tight-knit group, that's for sure.  Yes it is grass roots and localized.  Everyone's contribution is helpful.  Where we need the most help is maintaining a social presence here and on our Cannacoin reddit.  We are really fortunate to work with SubCreative and his brother, and growing NWGT and Cannacoin is long-term goal.  They benefit each other.  My vision is a political, social, and economic movement that can help to decentralize and reduce the ability of large corporations and banks to take control of Cannabis and dominate.

The work being done on Cannapay and NWGT behind the scenes is amazing.  I hope you can come out to Seattle some day and meet with the group.

Cheers

Hello everyone,

I am in the initial planning stage of a Cannacoin meetup in Seattle to take place over the course of two days on the weekend of September 13th-14th. This will be to bring together growers, vendors, Cannacoin developers, NWGT.org community members, and others to meet each other in person and form a stronger partnership for the success of Cannacoin. The purpose of the this convention will be to share ideas and resources for the growth of our political, economic, and social movement with Cannacoin and NWGT as the backbone.

As we all know, the Cannabis industry is going through revolutionary changes and Cannacoin is going to be a part of it.
Our core developer Josh has been hard at work developing Cannapay and we believe now is the time to come together and utilize this infrastructure to make a push towards decentralizing and empowering growers, vendors, artists, and developers with this open-source project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482425.msg7942295#msg7942295

Please let me know if you are interested in joining us. We currently do not have a location selected, but it will likely be somewhere convenient along the I-5 corridor outside of downtown Seattle.

My hope is that we can gather a group of 6-8 people and start hashing out our bigger plans for the future.

Cheers, Patrick

I agree.  I hope you decide to join us in building Cannacoin going forward.

Cheers,
Patrick

I have had significant contact with cryptomommy in the past, and I can assure you she is legit.  As am I, David Latapie, and Hybridsole.  We were the one's primarily responsible for sponsoring the initial design projects related to logos and building the community.  I am pretty encouraged right now that we have finally rid ourselves of the parasitic dev.

Patrick