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601  Economy / Goods / Re: [FOR SALE] - Beautiful Paper Bitcoins - UNFUNDED - Custom Printing - Any amount on: October 27, 2012, 12:14:36 AM
Order in: 2ebdcfe56e5aa72025ae61c8276852e4167bc1eb838fd10594a9963b0f306bfc

Thank you so very much for your order Scrybe Smiley

It is all packed up and will be on its way to you first thing in the morning. It is coming from Florida so it might take the better part of 5 business days to arrive but the post office is showing 2-5 business days for the shipping time to your address. I sent you a delivery confirmation number via PM.

I included printed instructions designed for a complete bitcoin newbie. If you need these instructions in digital format so you can print them for the people you will give them to just let me know.

602  Economy / Goods / Re: [FOR SALE] - Beautiful Paper Bitcoins - UNFUNDED - Custom Printing - Any amount on: October 26, 2012, 05:01:10 PM
Someone reported the image broken so I have fixed it.
603  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin going for more than $20 on eBay? on: October 26, 2012, 04:20:53 PM

I tried that, made screenshot of submitted wallet, transaction, my wallet and it didn't work. They told me the buyers account got stolen and even if they receive goods they reserve the right to get their money back.
I was like  Shocked

Isn't the customer required to return the merchandise?

13.3 How much coverage do I get with PayPal Buyer Protection?
Items purchased on eBay:
If you see the PayPal Buyer Protection message "Pay with PayPal and full purchase price is covered", and if PayPal finds in your favor on your Claim, PayPal will reimburse you for the full purchase price of the item and original shipping costs – with no cap on coverage. PayPal will not reimburse you for the return shipping costs that you incur to return a Significantly Not as Described item to the seller or other party PayPal specifies. If the seller presents evidence that they delivered the goods to your address, PayPal may find in favor of the seller even if you did not receive the goods.

Yeah, but I think they are talking about physical goods. I mean could take them to court and prove wrong because I do have proof, but it's not worth over $15.

Always sell a physical good to help protect yourself. If anyone needs help with the physical goods part, I have beautiful unfunded, custom printed, notes for sale complete with tamper evident stickers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120221.0

It only costs $1.70 to ship one of these to people and they get their BTC in 3 days usually. That $1.70 includes delivery confirmation and is created using PayPal's shipping system. Overall, it is still less of a hassle than MtGox. It helps to weed out scammers, it makes you more legit in PayPal's eyes. Some buyers upgrade to priority shipping and that is going to add a few more dimes to your profit.

604  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why ASIC's Should Not Be The Future Of Crypto Currencies on: October 26, 2012, 12:12:57 PM
It's disheartening to want to be something you can never be and to have to do things that are against your ideals.

I've got this addiction to life and it makes me do terrible things.
I'm trying to figure out what your ideals are because what you originally said reads like "I want other people to give me stuff for free but unfortunately they won't unless I trade them something of equal value".

I'm not sure how you read that into anything I typed.

And, without being dismissive, I think that this thread isn't really the place to discuss the perfect world according to FLHippy. If you are truly interested in reading about a fantasy society I'll post it in off-topic.


605  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin going for more than $20 on eBay? on: October 25, 2012, 09:22:29 PM

Did your business with poison-garden seeds required some kind of license? If you were licensed then it would be illegal for PayPal to freeze your account.

No license is required to sell seeds. My auction listing had pictures of opium poppies and a link to the wikipedia page for papaver somniferum. this is where mom clicked... saw the word heroin and instantly the seeds were a drug and I was shut down. The same seeds that you get on a bagel. HEROIN DEALER?

Papal can freeze your account for pretty much any reason.


606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why ASIC's Should Not Be The Future Of Crypto Currencies on: October 25, 2012, 01:27:32 PM
I aim to be a socialist but living in a capitalist world requires me to make money to survive.
Can you explain what this means? I've tried to figure it out but every possible interpretation I can think of is either incoherent or malicious.

I agree it is incoherent and malicious.

It's disheartening to want to be something you can never be and to have to do things that are against your ideals.

I've got this addiction to life and it makes me do terrible things.

607  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why ASIC's Should Not Be The Future Of Crypto Currencies on: October 25, 2012, 12:57:29 PM

I guess you just want free money thrown at you then?

Don't be ridiculous.

No one said anything about free money.

The OP was trying to say that ASICs will further exclude "any schmuck" from being able to afford the initial investment to earn money. leading to centralization of financial power into the hands of fewer entities. This is certainly true and the progression is already well underway. Is it good? Is it bad? I don't know. I know my place in the pyramid though and it's no where near the top Smiley I'm not bitter. I got a free lunch from bitcoin for a very very long time. If/when that comes to an end, I'm well fed and happy to have been able to have been able to participate in it. Being a socialist, It will be sad to see the any schmuck aspect of bitcoin come to an end.

But I love a good drama, and the bitcoin drama level is especially high. I expect interesting drama to unfold in the final months of 2012 and into 2013. Smiley
My point is, $150 invested into ASIC is going to be just as "worthless" to plug in as $150 invested into FPGA's, or $150 invested into GPU's.  So I don't understand why ASIC's are going to make the average schmuck any less able to mine.

I just think it's hilarious that FLHippy and Benator are going on and on about how ASICs are ruining the world and de-equalizing the mining playing field when that simply isn't true at all.  Anyone could invest in ASICs, just the same as anyone could invest in FPGA's or GPU's.  And just like FPGA's and GPU's, the higher the investment, the higher the revenue (duh!).  Anyone who expects the world to work any differently than that under any circumstances is deluding themselves.

And where/how does "greed" and "elitism" come into play?  Just because people are trying to generate extra income doesn't mean they are greedy or elitist.

Oh, and the kicker:  FLHippy mentions PPCoin, which just so happens to have the focus and hope of turning towards proof of stake in the future.  If there's any system that works to make the rich richer, proof of stake is IT!  And somehow, FLHippy is SUPPORTING it!   Cheesy

It is often difficult to get what people are trying to convey in a typed message.

To be clear, I'm not anti-asic. I'm not anti-greed. I'm not anti-elitism. I aim to be a socialist but living in a capitalist world requires me to make money to survive. Money, greed and elitism are a fact of life in a capitalist society. Sometimes pointing out the obvious makes it appear as if you're complaining.

The OP stated a bunch of stuff. Some of it I was agreeing with. I'm simply interested in talking about how things have changed in bitcoins short lifetime. Changes that mirror the financial systems bitcoin claims to replace.

The OP and many others  claim that bitcoin takes the power away from the elite. There was a time when this was true but it is becoming less true. The introduction of ASIC eliminates quite a lot of people from the mining scene creating an elite class of miners. The BitCoin Foundation is another example of elitism. The few people (Atlas) attempting to have a discussion about this and other issues (or non issues) are marginalized and ridiculed. Again, I'm not anti-bitcoin foundation either.

The only thing I am certainly going on-and-on about is the shut-the-fuck-up-DIAF, attitudes of people who have a dissenting opinion. Bitcoin is most often advertised in a way that suggests elitism is reduced by the ability for any schmuck to be able to be a player. It shouldn't shock anyone that it has attracted people who would be offended by marginalizing or outright elimination of those schmucks.

As for supporting PPCoin... I converted all my PPCoins to bitcoins. They're pretty much useless for anything else. IMHO All these alt currencies are bitcoin's bitch. I'll support bitcoin for as long as I can find an angle to produce the somewhat free lunch I've gotten used to. With PPcoin generating 1.85 bit coins yesterday... Fuck yes I was generating some PPCoins. I'll eat steak today I think.

In the end, bitcoin seems doomed to be something more like fiat when viewing it from an end user perspective. Some elite group of people controlling it, manipulating it, and deciding who gets to be a player with the only real advantage being that you can buy drugs online and gamble online with it. That, of course, is a completely different discussion. Would bitcoin survive elimination of these spending avenues?

If your goal is to just troll every discussion, thats cool too. We all need a hobby. (I'm also not anti-troll)

608  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin going for more than $20 on eBay? on: October 25, 2012, 12:04:06 PM

If you're just going to reverse the transaction anyway, $47 isn't that much money.

Could also be digital delivery sellers are getting scarce Wink

Yeah they are getting scarce because paypal is banning them  Sad

I saw your post bout PayPal divorcing you. Can you tell me a little bit about your account?

My questions are...

Did you ONLY sell bitcoins?
How long were you a member for?
Did you only sell digital delivery?
You said you only had 3 chargebacks and many voluntary refunds. What time span did the chargebacks happen in? 1 month? 6 months? more?

In my past experience with PayPal I believe PayPal to be generally lazy. They only seem to act when someone complains. Do you feel a competitor may have "narked you out" ?

I used to run a seed selling business on eBay back in 2003-2007. I specialized in poison-garden seeds. Some of which can be considered drugs. I had that PayPal account closed over a $2 poppy seed packet sale and the complaint came from a concerned mother. I had refunded her payment when she contacted me, I was very pleasant with the woman and felt the issue was handled well by me and was shocked when PayPal canceled my account. After the 180 days, It took an additional 6 months to recover the frozen funds. At the time there was NO WAY to speak to anyone on the phone.

I'm really going to begin to worry if they are canceling paypal accounts for people who are shipping physical bitcoins (me).

On a more positive note, I got my paypal account back in the end by providing them a bunch of information and agreeing not to sell poisonous seeds anymore. Attempts to explain how lots of innocent vegetables have poison seeds fell on deaf ears at PayPal. They ALWAYS assume the seller to be a liar and the buyer to be a judge/jury/executioner. I have been an eBay seller since 1998 and have been using PayPal since it was X.com.

609  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins on a Raspberry Pi on: October 25, 2012, 01:38:18 AM
The rpi is astonishingly slow ...

it's good enough to run screen, samba, web server with little traffic
i was wondering if it can also run some bitcoin related apps.
but even response times for trivial tasks observed in shell take quite some time, i did not dare to start programs that would need more then ~200 mb of memory and then all cpu for swapping. a more powerful hardware might be the way to go. thanks for the link.
however it should be low power consumption pc but with some more computing power.
i like my raspberry pi very much but i could use also a dev board 'with muscles' Smiley the final price (with cables & co) is 4-5 times the price of the raspberry pi though. sorry for off topic post

I haven't had any problem running lots of bitcoin related apps on the rpi. apache runs fine. php, vanitygen, all run fine. print server, gui desktop, all work fine and I don't have the 512MB model. You're going to wait for a lot of stuff to happen but it's to be expected. the RPI is a wonderful online or offline bitcoin tool. Are there better ones? Probably but not for the price... $35 goes a LONG way with the rpi.



610  Economy / Goods / Re: [FOR SALE] - Beautiful Paper Bitcoins - UNFUNDED - Custom Printing - Any amount on: October 25, 2012, 12:59:50 AM
fishface, Thank you for your purchase. It has been packaged, will go out in the morning mail, and should arrive within 2-3 business days.

Anyone else wishing to order, there is plenty of time to receive your notes before thanksgiving dinner and christmass with the family.

BTC on paper makes a great holiday gift!

Suitable for framing!
611  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why ASIC's Should Not Be The Future Of Crypto Currencies on: October 24, 2012, 04:20:38 PM

I guess you just want free money thrown at you then?

Don't be ridiculous.

No one said anything about free money.

The OP was trying to say that ASICs will further exclude "any schmuck" from being able to afford the initial investment to earn money. leading to centralization of financial power into the hands of fewer entities. This is certainly true and the progression is already well underway. Is it good? Is it bad? I don't know. I know my place in the pyramid though and it's no where near the top Smiley I'm not bitter. I got a free lunch from bitcoin for a very very long time. If/when that comes to an end, I'm well fed and happy to have been able to have been able to participate in it. Being a socialist, It will be sad to see the any schmuck aspect of bitcoin come to an end.

But I love a good drama, and the bitcoin drama level is especially high. I expect interesting drama to unfold in the final months of 2012 and into 2013. Smiley



612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why ASIC's Should Not Be The Future Of Crypto Currencies on: October 24, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
ASIC's are just going to speed up the process of centralizing the money, and making the poor poorer and the rich richer to an even greater extent than things are already.

I agree with this. Technology speeds everything up, even the stages of greed and elitism. Bitcoin has very much gone from a moral ground of "any schmuck can earn!" to "You need a week's salary of an investment to earn." to "Only those with the ability to take a large financial risk can earn"

That said, morality goes out the window when there is money involved. It will be interesting to see if there is a morality shift to alternate currencies and equally interesting to try to determine if it's a morality shift or a financial shift. There is a lot of money invested in hardware which WILL work with those alternate currencies. For the past couple of days, PPCOIN is running around 175% more profitable to mine than BTC so perhaps it has already begun.
So $150 is a large financial risk?   Roll Eyes

I don't see the step towards ASICs as being morally questionable, myself.  It's still "any schmuck can earn" in my book when there's $150 ASICs available.

$150? Who has $150 ASICs? You must mean in some not-so-distant future.
I don't believe that a $150 ASIC device would be worth plugging in.

Assuming we're in that future and the difficulty has risen... and assuming you don't have free electricity....

If the current $600 FPGA devices are $150, would they be worth plugging in?
There is no $150 GPU device which is worth plugging in now, never mind the future.
There is no $150 CPU which is worth plugging in.

613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why ASIC's Should Not Be The Future Of Crypto Currencies on: October 24, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
ASIC's are just going to speed up the process of centralizing the money, and making the poor poorer and the rich richer to an even greater extent than things are already.

I agree with this. Technology speeds everything up, even the stages of greed and elitism. Bitcoin has very much gone from a moral ground of "any schmuck can earn!" to "You need a week's salary of an investment to earn." to "Only those with the ability to take a large financial risk can earn"

That said, morality goes out the window when there is money involved. It will be interesting to see if there is a morality shift to alternate currencies and equally interesting to try to determine if it's a morality shift or a financial shift. There is a lot of money invested in hardware which WILL work with those alternate currencies. For the past couple of days, PPCOIN is running around 175% more profitable to mine than BTC so perhaps it has already begun.

614  Economy / Goods / [FOR SALE] - Beautiful Paper Bitcoins - UNFUNDED - Custom Printing - Any amount on: October 24, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
I'm selling UNFUNDED physical BitCoins printed on 32lb 100% cotton paper using a high-end color laser printer. They come in packs of 10 for 1.5 BTC or $22.50 PayPal. Shipping is free. All you need to do is add funds to the notes and then give them away or sell them. These notes are beautiful! Easy to redeem! Redemption Instructions included. Webcam or smartphone required to redeem. Email support is free.

Edit - Nov 18 - LAST CALL! - DO NOT ORDER AFTER NOVEMBER 19. I AM LEAVING FOR MIAMI ON MY SAILBOAT ON NOV 21.

If you sell coins on eBay or are interested in selling coins on eBay, this is the safest way to do it.

Bitcoins regularly sell for 60% over market value on eBay.

The front side of the note has a beautifully intricate design featuring Leonardo Davinci. There are two QR codes. One for the public key used to fund the note and one for the private key used to redeem the note. The back side of the note features beautiful and helpful text in a wave pattern. The private key is protected from both sides of the note with a high quality holographic tamper evident sticker.

You can choose from the Leonardo design, the PSY design or the Turing design. The leonardo design is the same size as a US dollar. The PSY design is slightly smaller lengthwise. The turing design is the smallest of the three. if you prefer a custom design, which you provide, I can do that too but there will be a setup charge.

Your notes will be custom printed with a name of your choice reading "Printed By: [Your Name Here]"
You can choose from the following denominations .01, .05, .10, .25, .50, 1, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50, 100 or "blank".
Custom Vanity addresses will be created for your notes. You can pick a word up to 5 characters long to appear in the public key. Some examples are....

1CoinFQgf6ys7k6eC9oea1LkpGduPrMfrn
1BTCj4FgUtcQzWsUW8SFyaTf84htbWQWx5
1JoeXjjNyngaLgPDAWfyYWA3T3cujFyjFM
1FLH1pPyN5nNxhJUafyd2cUkBwbAaZUNQP


Vanity addresses and private keys are generated in a completely off-line environment on my RPI specifically set up for this task. 100% air-gap security from generation to print. Key information is destroyed once printing is complete and the printer's history is wiped clean after every print.

Paper notes can be used as a bitcoin piggybank. Completely offline, completely safe from hackers. No one can steal the funds you store on a paper note. Put the note in a safety deposit box and it is even safer!

The ink on these notes will not smudge and will not bleed when wet. It will survive a trip through the washing machine but you've only got a 50/50 shot of it surviving the dryer  All the notes I have tested were still readable after going through the wash/dry cycle in my laundry machines. Some notes were shredded in the dryer run but even with the shredded notes, the tamper evident sticker held the redeem QR code together enough that the private key could be read.

You can add any quantity of funds to the note.

Paper notes are very safe. A hacker cannot steal money stored on a paper note.

USA SALES ONLY PLEASE! If demand is high enough, I will offer international shipping.
I WILL ONLY SHIP TO A VERIFIED PAYPAL ADDRESS IF PAYING BY PAYPAL!
No p.o. Boxes!
FREE SHIPPING - FREE SHIPPING - FREE SHIPPING - FREE SHIPPING - FREE SHIPPING

If you don't trust me and want to have escrow, I have the same item on BitMit at the same price with escrow.
https://www.bitmit.net/en/trade/i/8717-beautiful-unfunded-paper-bitcoins-custom-printing-free-ship

I will put your item in the mail the same day you order. Delays are possible with vanity addresses that have a higher difficulty.
Please PM me for instructions. I prefer BTC Payments so the BTC price is discounted.

Leonardo Design  (created by BitPay) uploaded by flh1ppy, on Flickr

PSY design (created by PSY) uploaded by  flh1ppy, on Flickr

TuringNote (created by aristus). Uploaded by flh1ppy, on Flickr



Please note, the turing design is not compatable with my tamper evident stickers and none will be provided for the turing notes.

If you prefer to have no tamper evident stickers Just let me know and a larger redeem QR code will be printed on the notes.

The PSY design image shows what it looks like when the tamper evident sticker is removed.

615  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin going for more than $20 on eBay? on: October 23, 2012, 08:12:04 PM

If you're just going to reverse the transaction anyway, $47 isn't that much money.

Could also be digital delivery sellers are getting scarce Wink
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why should/shouldn't I use PPCoin? on: October 23, 2012, 01:26:05 PM
PPC = Digital Cash IMHO.  Cheesy

FTFY  Tongue

PPC needs people to adopt it or it wont go anywhere  Wink

With over 2 billion coins there is enough for everyone  Cheesy

The hard limit is 2 billion, it in fact does NOT have any limit to coins(yet or not ever).

Inflation anyone?

The price of PPCoin would stay forever low.

PPCoin price seems to have nearly doubled since I put the 1000 coins I generated on a lark up for sale... Making it more profitable to mine than bitcoin for the same time period. Of course I was only interested in the bit coins I traded the ppcoins for but thats entirely another issue.
617  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion? on: October 23, 2012, 02:45:43 AM
The rickroll was predicted before it happened.
618  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: October 22, 2012, 08:22:41 AM

Thank you so much Smiley Where do I send the .25BTC?? Smiley
619  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Giving Away a FREE 840Mh/s ModMiner Quad FPGA Miner Every Week in October! on: October 22, 2012, 04:11:37 AM
I am in the contest again please Smiley
620  Economy / Collectibles / Re: How would you like to design a bitcoin banknote? on: October 22, 2012, 03:58:30 AM
 Do you have an online generator for your notes?  I'm just curious to see it.


I am using RobKhor's printcoins project. It is online at http://print.printcoins.com. I don't use the online version. I downloaded the project to my off-line bitcoin machine (Raspberry PI) and I generate the bills on that. It's completely offline. It takes a while to generate on such a low powered machine but I don't have to worry about it being comprised.

I generate vanity addresses for my coins. "1BTC....", "1Coin....", "1Half....", 1ooBTC....", etc.

I added BitPay's Leonardo note to Rob's project and it is now part of the main project on github.  I also added a turning note from another project I found made by aristus.

I have since talked to Anthony (?) at BitPay and he sent me the layered images for his notes so the one I'm using now is slightly different than the one in the printcoins project. I intend on adding it to the project soon though because I think it's prettier.

Additionally I will be adding the bitpay "bond" but I have not come up with a design modification I'm happy with yet.

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