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601  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: October 08, 2017, 02:57:19 PM
You can get bitcoin by buying bitcoins on a trusted site. Or you can sell altcoin with dollars, you can get altcoin by following some projects in bounty room.
The topic here is how to earn bitcoins without investment, so I don't think that buying bitcoins count as a way to get bitcoins without investment.
There are many ways to earn bitcoins without any investment, all you have to do is devote your time and hardwork and you will surely be awarded.

Buying or selling of bitcoin is not the only way to earn even without investment. As long as you know on how to offer your service on line, as long as you have a strong determination's to learn, as long you have the courage to show your ideas through on line, as long as you don't mind of spending time of it then you have the chance to earn money even without investment.
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which Coins are a great LONG-TERM investment ???? on: October 08, 2017, 02:34:33 AM
There are a couple of altcoins I'm currently researching -

VeChain - A coin similar to Walton, it's primarily used for supply chain logistics and product verification. It's not fun or exciting like a lot of these other coins, but I believe it has the potential to change the way logistics are conducted. It also has significant investor attention (PwC, ties with Renault, shipping companies) that indicate that big businesses are interested. Limited consumer application but huge business potential.

TRON - Really awful whitepaper (it's Engrish) but fun and interesting premise - it's a coin used in Chinese apps like Peiwo and a potential introduction to cryptocurrency for a humongous market. Lots of investor attention and the creator, Justin Sun, has ties to Alibaba's Jack Ma.

DNT - A recent coin and something that I will probably use once the technology is better established considering my interest in eBay. I haven't fully grasped it yet, but it's essentially a decentralized eBay or Craigslist for cryptocurrency users. I'm really looking forward to seeing where this goes.

All of these coins have long-term potential.

For me, there's no coins for LONG-TERM investment.Why? Simply because nobody knows exactly what would happened in the future. It is part of business to promise everything to give an assurance to people so that more investors got interest. Though some business experts predicting possible results but keep in mind  that hindrances are always behind everthing so don't expect to much.
603  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin rise is over on: October 07, 2017, 07:53:54 PM
I don't think we can compare this year with 2013, or any other for that matter. Many people talk about Bitcoin and its price, they say that we are in bubble and that could be truth, at least i agree with it. Price go up and down all the time, difference is now that some people do not know what to expect. Another hard fork could happen, and people are afraid. That will have impact on price too.

From the chart that you posted we can see increase in price, but if we are in a bubble fall is iminant. I think that after this fall in price, there will be another rising and this time it could go above 5000 dollars.

Well I think there's nothing to worry about. Becoming more obsessed with small failings can distruct us from being aware of a much greater shortcomings in ourselves. Mind you that business is just like that. But I believe that bitcoin overcome this fork.Keep going on. I see no reason not to hit the target range because lot of enthusiast tend to give their best to support for bitcoin's future not only for the sake of their needs.
604  Economy / Speculation / Re: The price is increasing AGAIN on: October 07, 2017, 06:35:53 AM
That is why panic selling is the major reason why many are losing in bitcoin trading. If those that sell there bitcoin last month because of the panic created by the comments make by Jamie Dimon and China banned of ico project and the subsequent rumors that bitcoin exchanging activities has been banned, could have hold, they could have still sell high when bitcoin raise to $4500 early this week. I think, we are currently in upward momentum and this may last till the end of this month.
The problem is that these persons are probably trading bitcoin just to get profits and are not people that truly believe in the future of bitcoin so as soon as they see the price to go down they sell thinking they are cutting their losses when in fact they are undermining their future earnings.

We don't have nothing to do about those people  that never care and believe for the future of bitcoin because people with real lives are well rounded. The well rounded people are creative thinker. So we choose to be part of the solution for this. I believed that this bitcoin will boom to all countries and there will be more up coming investors
605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Sound Money? on: October 07, 2017, 03:41:43 AM
first of all the video linked is unavailable
and BITCOIN is like the gold alternate in the internet
this became popular because of those investors who is popular well known CEO's are being involved and holds most of them
that adds to the popularity now of COINS

bitcoin will be money for those who needs and have crisis in money
but for me it is alternative money too
For me yes it sounds money because you change it into a fiat money. We know it is a digitized money and it is very important to everybody because many people from here have different purposes why they use bitcoin everyday or whenever they use it at their own pace. I may get also that amount someday but for now I don't know I will just wait until it comes. The good thing is I can ask from my friends to have a small amount of bitcoin to break my curiosity.
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in ICO, still promising? on: October 06, 2017, 01:18:05 PM
yes they do profitable if a project is scam or something like that. I am not highly support ICO but I have to say that people always earn good money with ICO. Anyhow, I just want to say that you need to determine which ICO is good and which is made to steal people money so that you will not fall into their trap

Actually I can't imagine which words would fit to answer. In my opinion there might be both "yes" and "no"answers. Why? Because other people think of its negative effects. Their mind totally blind due to their negative experiences regarding this ICO. But how about its positive effects? Shall we not consider it?
607  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house? on: October 05, 2017, 08:21:00 PM
If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Ive been thinking if it went into very high figures i could cash out 80-90% of bitcoin and buy a house outright with no mortgage.  Is that even a good idea though? - basically 80% of networth in a house hmmm.  On the other hand i dont want to have a mortgage and im fed up with renting due to landlords, letting agents and lack of control.

Yes I will buy my house and lot because I dont own a house and lot.Its really difficult of having no house.Secondly I will invest in business the rest bitcoin I have so that theres a stable income for my kids.I really have to get ready for the future of my kids.Bitcoin gives future to every people who beleive in bitcoin.Bitcoin meet the dreams in your life.So bitcoin is my hope in the future of my family.
Same with me too.I will definitely buy my own house and lot so i can have a property of my own.I'm fed up also of renting houses,and looking for payment for monthy rental.So i'm struggling more on bitcoin so i can make my dream into a reality.And yes bitcoin for sure will be the best answer for this.But you also need to work hard as a bitcoiner so you will gain huge profit in the end.
Work hard and have a lot of patience, that are the keys in achieving our dreams we should always being a lot of patience with us and also a lot of effort to put on our hard work so when the good times come then it will make our dreams come true and because of that, we need to take care of it by handling it properly.
I really wish to buy my own house. Today I'm only living with my relative's house. Though I didn't pay for rent but anytime she has the right to kick me out of her house. So now, I strongly believe that "Bitcoin" is one way to make my wish come true. Hope to make this soon.
608  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: October 05, 2017, 04:51:36 PM
If I had do choose, I would invest money, rather than save it. Investing is more secure as for me. Of course, you need to know about how and where you are going to invest your money. If you invested, you would not have any problems with inflation, for example. And as a result you even can have more money than you had at first, you have a chance to become rich because of investing. Also investing is one form of saving, I think, but mediate and more trustworthy.

Don't say that investing is secure for you, there's no secured thing in investments. But once you are able to be with that investment for a long time and you are seeing it's stability in a positive way maybe you might say you are feeling secured with it anyway. I have now a big belief that instead of saving your money in the bank put that in an investment where you can make more money but if that is bitcoin, then just save it.
Exactly, it's not easy as we think as along the way there are a lot of challenges that you have to surpass.
Investing is purely taking risk and we are just believe our investment will succeed but there is no guarantee it will happen.

It is risky but in this world you can't gain something if you are not going to take a risk. And this is an easy thing for those people that are good in taking risk because they know that it's profitable and they have experience with it. Depending on the investment that they are with, just don't try to invest into ponzi schemes and HYIP's they are not worth of our money.
I know what you are talking about i just think that investing is always better because the worth of the money if you save it will be still the same and if you invest it the worth can go up and low and up where you actually make more then you had.
The money that you'll save all the time will be lessen it's value soon because of the inflation and this is why for people that are open minded they tend to invest more instead of saving more. Saving is giving you a feeling that you are secured financially which is a good thing but if you want to make more money and grow it the best thing to do is to invest your money and diversify it.
I also prefer investing over savings but under one condition. If the investment is the right one, it will bring grand amounts of profit but a wrong choice will destroy one's life. For now, the best investment tool is bitcoin. It is gaining value with every passing day and it is said that before November, the price will be at least 4900 dollars. Now is the right time to spend money.
I'm not sure about investing but yes I am definitely agree some of your thoughts. We never know if it really works if we don't have to take risk. Eventhough I don't have further experience or knowledge about investing but I guess it is better to try than nothing. I'd rather choose to invest than to save my money. I think there's nothing wrong about it anyway.
609  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: October 04, 2017, 03:09:06 PM
What is the obstacles, challenges and problems that Bitcoin can face it in 5 years? How we can help Bitcoin to take more authoritative place in the world of currency system?
Perhaps the obstacles that can suddenly appear in the next 5 years is that more and more developed countries are starting to ban the ico itself and and many natural disasters even appear clashes that resulted in war. The most appropriate way for us to help bitcoin to continue to survive is to spread this forum to all people whether it is still children, teenagers and even parents so that future generations will be better.
This is something a bit odd for me but anyway,bitcoin can recover from any issues depending on whatever challenges it may go through in many years to come. Hopefully,there will be better outcomes of bitcoin in the upcoming 5 to 10 years because as we can see every year has its recurring effect and it's majority's experience and I believe to their common statements. As a result,bitcoin will sojourn its journey for better life.
610  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What impresses you the most about Bitcoin? on: October 04, 2017, 02:24:38 PM
It is true that in bitcoin there are various functions and privileges that attract investors and traders to participate in bitcoin business, besides bitcoin has no bound rules about age, position and wealth, all can use bitcoin and can be accessed in various countries by using internet connection thing this is certainly very impressive for all bitcoin users.
I definitely agree with you sir/ma'am. I really admire and appreciate bitcoin for everything that it achieves based on what I heard from a lot of people already and have proven the goodness of bitcoin and they spare me some of their coins which eventually I am taking part in here and thinking of many ways to be more informative and grateful to be part of this cryptocurrency world. I would try to invest small amount of money soon and I want to see how far it will go with bitcoin,hopefully in nice result.
611  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: October 04, 2017, 01:20:25 PM
If you are just a bit of computer literate it is the best way to invest your money. It is because you are investing your money in something like gold, but that is digital and can be converted to real cash really soon, you are keeping it in your PC or in a hardware wallet and you are your own bank. Until know I don't know a better way to invest your money. Beside these things, bitcoin price can increase in value with the passing of time so your benefits go up even more.
I guess you're right. Take myself as an example, I am not really particular in transacting money online but through bitcoin I am slowly adapting the world of technology and everything goes smoothly everyday. I may not have the best information but I have an authentic and clear sight of bitcoin without any hesitation to view on things like investing money. As of now, I'm waiting for my turn soon so I would invest my money in bitcoin and that's certain.
612  Economy / Speculation / Re: I've noticed something strange on: October 04, 2017, 12:32:42 PM
Getting some free coins is ...
A fork does not give you free coins, the value doesn't come from nothing. It comes from the original coins you had, and the higher the value of the Forkcoin, the lower the value of your original coin gets. Even if both go up, that means it would have been higher without fork.

Read this: Bitcoin Cash Is Not Free Money
I understand what the author in that article is saying, and it mostly makes sense, but it's not necessarily true.  That view is too simplistic and is only guaranteed to be true in a vacuum where people have to invest in something, and the only options are bitcoin and bitcoin cash.  The real markets are much more complicated than that.
The point that I get from that article is the amount you put up from a certain coin and so on through forkcoin? So how about if we use another coin would that be in the same motion too? I'm kinda curious and confused as well regarding this matter. Could somebody from here who could elaborate the thought from the article and make it a brief info to everybody? Anyway,thank you for this information but I have to stay calm for now because bitcoin is tremendously keeping its skyrocketing rate sooner and sooner.
613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Japan starts registering exchanges on: October 03, 2017, 10:45:25 PM
This is a right step forward for cryptocoins. I think most part of people just dont trust in crypto now or dont know about it. But when government starts register exchanges it means, that government supports crypto and understand that is future. Japan is only beginning.
How lovely it is! I wish it would happen also to all countries. I get more interested in this thing because I've been wishing that this would really happen soon. I just worry if my country won't get the same success that Japan is getting soon. My country has been suffering from crimes that spread from time to time. It is bothersome and kinda blocking success of bitcoin in my place so it has a slow development. Anyway,I have my support to Japanfor as long as they can help other country too.
614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning enough with Bitcoin without Job ? on: October 03, 2017, 10:21:56 PM
I was just wondering that is it possible to earn steady income without going 8-5 hours regular office job.. I mean you got some bitcoin in your wallet .. are you the enough for living ?

another option is to regularly working on Bitcoin related trading/activites .. that earn you enough amt of monthly income ..

what's your opinion


Note: this is not for poor fellow who just discovered bitcoin or altcoins
Although bitcoin can provide a large income online, I think it is still not enough to depend all your life and daily expenses into it by quitting your first job and just focusing into earning of bitcoins for larger income. It will be still more beneficial if you will still have your physical job and working into earning of bitcoin as well. In this way, you can earn and gain larger income because upon combining those two sources of income, both can provide and give you large income which is really beneficial on your part.
Your opinion is quite good though. I also think that through the two sources of income,it will make you more productive knowing that the two beneficial way can help you grow well rounded in terms of earning money and having your own job. If the case is like this to me then I won't quit but since I encountered a problem so I needed to quit my job and focus on bitcoin specifically in my health. So I need to be a home buddy so I can work at home and I think it's not bad at all. What do you think?
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Altcoins really have a future? on: October 02, 2017, 11:02:11 PM
I believe they have. It just might take years to prove their worth. The coins on market cap that are on the top 10 are some that does have a future.
Having a large market cap is not everything, those coins may have th highest chance of survival in the next years but you never know, maybe someone finds a bug in the code and they steal a lot of coins and suddenly the confidence in that coin is shaken forever.
That's true enough though. I think all coins have future because it started from smaller value until it reaches its targeted value in the market. If more people keep on patronizing its coin that they are in,the more it will be recognized that same goes with bitcoin. Nowadays,bitcoin become more famous in shops whether local or in international. I could say that some speculations occur because they try to put alcoins or bitcoin down and only reason is that the conpetency itself towards economy. The higher its demand,the greater the spread of the rate. Therefore,there's always a room for a future.
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to get fast rich in crypto world? on: October 02, 2017, 09:57:35 PM
Really helpful post specially those who are new into crypto currency. I join in crypto few months ago, and i bought a lots of useless coin, i figured it out it not gonna make me money. So you have to be smart and buy coin after u do the research. Thanks for your advice though
Glad to know that you are learning here even more on this forum.I would suggest just read and read on the opinion of people on here because you will surely gain knowledge as the time goes by on reading up valuable information and opinions on this place.Dont hurry on getting rich this is why you should really be sure on every steps that you would make in order to reach that goal that we are aiming for.
Same here. I also love to learn new things from here because I stay in my house waiting for my career path that I recently took,exam. So in oder for me to be productive at home I join this campaign so that I can help my parents in my own littlw ways. It's difficult when they see you around and you can't extend your help so this is such a good opportunity like me who's at home. I expect more concise and clear information from this forum. Speaking of becoming rich fast,I would just do my best for that but I am not in a hurry. More information please,thank you!
617  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: September 27, 2017, 08:39:00 PM
make a target for your invest. then just wait price reach that target and sell. dont try to hold longer. many people lost because their greed
I also support this strategy and applying it with my coins especially bitcoins. It is highly prudent to set your target and whenever your coins touch it, don’t waste more time in order to have more profit because greed can put you in deep regret and loss. I always set my targets with bitcoin and at present I am holding bitcoins because want them to touch 5k dollars.

That's right! Do not let the hype makes you create a target can not reaches for Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin can not increases easy as the past. Now, it has many users and its value very easy breakdown when has some FUDs.

I agree that its value will breakdown easily or a general term volatile. One of the reasons of this is fluctuations and quick changes in the market sell value of bitcoin due to unpredictable investors decisions. So we needed to bare in mind that we are not selling our bitcoins while price still at low value, and always remember to sell only if needed.

What if you didn't need that to sell at higher value? was it worth holding since you really don't have emergency needs? I guess the situations only depends on the actual scenario of bitcoin price. I admit fluctuations really affect the decision making of all investors some were into panic and sells at earlier time-frame.
618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best ICO in September on: September 25, 2017, 08:43:55 PM
Hello,

Have you seen DomRaider ICO ?
It's a french company created in 2013 specialized in “dropcatching.” This technique consists of reserving newly dropped domain names (such as .com, .net, and .fr) and selling them at auction.

This ICO end in 15 days.

What do you think about it ?
we have same ICO like this before.. nametoken as I remember right. focus on domain trade. but it's stop. doesn't known why

There's lots of ico that is stopping after one to two weeks for no reasons, but I do believe that they scammed more people and don't value hard work and time. This month of september doesn't have any good ico so far, but maybe there's some who wasn't popular because there's plenty of it and I couldn't recognize which is really the best of them.
619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WARNING] ats tokens scam on: September 25, 2017, 08:06:01 PM
this coin still live and not scam Cheesy hope all people get the bounty.. and this coin can grow up..
people just not patient and say this coin scam..
in fact this coin is promising.... hope this topic want to change the titlle!! because ATS NOT SCAM!
It's not a scam of course. I hope the honest ones receive their coin too. If people can hold until the platform is launched then it's price will probably skyrocket.

I agree mate, holding our coins will be a great opportunity for everybody to gain their profit. Waiting is the best ways to earn your coins profit in the same manner that others who have bigger amounts of holding can benefit someday. Scam project will not give you bounty token and no distribution will happen.
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BOUNTY THREAD] ☼☼ Playkey.io ~ 3,915,000$ to Share ! ☼☼[NEWW] on: September 24, 2017, 04:16:48 AM
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