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6001  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: January 24, 2017, 06:26:06 AM
For me you should just wait or hold on to those bitcoins as there would be a great chance that the prices will still go up even until $1,100 again. Just ride the waves of its growth right now and once there is a panic selling again sell before that happens then buy back at the bottom price.
as most of the people are expecting that still there  is a lot of potential in the price of bitcoin, and we can see that the price is trading a little low from its previous positing and is struck to that level for a long time, so its mean that people are not welling to sell their bitcoin and continue holding it. therefore my suggestion will also be to hold bitcoin and not to sell it right now. it is also expected that this time the price of bitcoin can cross is all time  high level.
Maybe it's not because they are holding and waiting to rise up, I see that the volume though has stabilized to. This means that the prices are also stabilizing at this prices as people would want to sell and others want to buy at these prices. Maybe we would need some more reasons for it to really jump off and the prices would sky rocket, lets see in the next few months.
In next few weeks itself, I guess we are going to see a good rally toward $1200 and then $1500 levels. It is physiological expectation that bitcoin could easily reach $1150 levels again, so once it hit there it would be bumped  more to trap those profit booking investors. I guess this type of rally may continue till $2000 levels too.

So, waiting for good prices is the thing I am doing right now. Selling now may trap us to regret later.
I could agree with you on that, not because I like to see a good price but that is also based on my analysis. The thing is, we were able to reach $1,100 so it's not hard to get back on that amount and when it happen it will continue to increase. I am actually very excited to see that price, I will just hold now until my prediction will take place.
6002  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Best way mo para mag earn nang bitcoin on: January 24, 2017, 05:37:45 AM
saakin, campaign ads. palang ang nattry ko. dati din may mga faucets akong pinagkukuhanan pero narealize ko na aabutin ako ng syam syam para lang kumita ng hundreds. pero may mga bots din na nag bibigay ng free bitcoins katulad nalamang nung nakaraan sa telegram(not sure kung meron pa hanggang ngayon) ,malaki yung binibigay ng bot na yun na halos 80k satoshis per day.
mga Ilan po ba ang kinikita sa pag signature campaign?

naka depende sa rate ng campaign yan brad may mga campaign kasi na mababa magbigay pero always ka namang welcome , may mga campaign din na mataas mag bigay pero mahirap sumali at madaming condition sa pagpopost , sa campaign ko ngayon halos 700 yung kita per week naka depende din yung kikitain mo sa rank mo.

oo tama ka may signature campaign na always tayong welcome kahit anong mangyare at yan ay ang secondstrade. Pero hindi ganun kalakihan ang sahod pero atleast mabilis makapasok. Hindi katulad sa bitmixer malaki nga magpasahod pero paduguan naman ang ganda ng post kasi kapag hindi siguradong kickout ka agad.

mahirap kasing sumali sa mga campaign sa labas dahil napaka strickto ng mga rules kahit nga masunod mo na yng ruling e malaki pa din yung chance na makick out ka kahit quality na yung post mo pag nag init sa mata ng manager e kick out ka din papalabasin lang na low quality post.
Hindi naman strict, kailangan mo lang i follow and rules, kung gusto nyu sali kayo sa Qtum, pwedi local posters and pati na rin ata ang Byteball pwedi na local posters sa kanila. Mukhang short sila ng participants kasi halos lahat sa Qtum nasali.
6003  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: January 24, 2017, 04:04:19 AM
Although by "paper" you probably refer to "what the paper represents" and not the actual paper itself...recall the United States destroys tons of paper bills every year because it physically gets worn out. In fact, didn't Canada experiment with a new, thin, plastic dollar? I remember seeing that on TV one night.

No matter what medium backs up the currency of a nation, it will always symbolize the "atom" of that nation's "unit of work," and therefore will probably always be with us.

We need some paper money yet, but in the future, our technology and innovation can invent a virtual money. Just like you are saying, for this day, our money is paper, and what if in the future, our money becomes virtual money, or cannot be seen through our own eyes. I think it can be invented after a few years, we all just need to be on the right track of using it.
The world is moving fast, so we should be moving as well. Changes cannot be prevented anymore as innovation will happen, if it's going to be virtual then we must adopt with it and I think bitcoin is now leading and it's a good example for the future innovation of our fiat system.
6004  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You only lose if... on: January 24, 2017, 03:51:46 AM
I'm confident for bitcoin about reach 5x times from current value on 2019 as we know there will be halving and bitcoin demand got higher

So I'm focus to purchase bitcoin every month ( 10-15% ) and keep hold as long as possible

( just learning the past , bitcoin still $ 300 / btc )
Right now bitcoin is close to 900 so that means by your prediction bitcoin will reach a price of 4500 dollars per bitcoin while I have faith in bitcoin I am not sure bitcoin can reach such a price in such a short time frame.
Nothing is impossible in the world of cryptocurrency, when the 2016 ago prices of bitcoin ranging between 600-700 USD/BTC,
nobody would have thought if in that year will be 1100 USD/BTC just in a month. The bitcoin price is very difficult to guess.
Nothing is impossible that is true, but at the same time there must be a reason for the price to reach that amount that fast and right now I don't see how the price could multiply itself that fast in such a short time frame.
It's very difficult to guess the right price but we know that it will increase in the future, that should be our basis to invest and we must choose a long term investment if we are not good in day trading. Success are for those who are willing to wait and just like what happen when it reached that price, it will again rise to that level.
6005  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: January 24, 2017, 03:31:32 AM
Hey guys I'm not sure if this is the right place so please tell me if it is not. With that out of the way, I have a question for you all. I have recently been able to gather about .5 btc through minor trading and I was wondering if there was any method or way to grow this btc into a larger amount safely and fairly quickly. Thanks!

Gambling might give you huge returns but there is always a high probability of loosing than winning.

Investing in promising altcoins is also a good idea but I would you to do what you are currently doing. Trade in fiat and altcoins. It is a slow but sure growth if you have a proper strategy. As you capital increases your profit will also increase.


Yes, trading is the best way to grow bitcoin, nothing more than trading. If he wanna grow their bitcoin, he should add/grow his capital and knowledge, because both are important. No limitation in profit as long as we keep trading.
Of course it is, but the risk always in trading as well. There is no assurance you will easily be profitable, if you want to grow your bitcoins you have to take the risk and work hard for it. One way to grow as well is just to work for bitcoin, not as risky as trading but you will only have a limited income.
6006  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: January 24, 2017, 03:18:42 AM
Did you ever gamble with other's money to pay your own debts or otherwise to solve a certain problem through gambling?
if I didn't have the money it's better I don't gamble, trying to solve a problem with gambling it would create another problem, that's what I think and I think gambling is a problem

Gambling in bad moments like when you have trouble or a problem is self destruction. You will gamble all you are going to have on you because you will not have hope in anything anymore. Think of breaking up with your wife or girlfriend - would you care about that money anymore? No, so nothing will stop you from gambling it and the situation can go from 1 to 100 in seconds. Better find something fun to do that doesn't harm you in ANY way..

If you are so depressed over the breakup, then you may not end up gambling. Because gambling wont make you numb. Usually people will turn to drugs or alcohols as these will have effects that numbs the sense of the human brains. Gambling requires a lot of thinking and it does not get rid of your sadness too. At least this is how i feel.

yes diverting your attention to gambling when in a time of depressed or breakup will just let you lose your money. because your not in focus on what you are doing. and gambling during that time can make you in a trouble because your mind is in not condition where you are in deep pain. you will just end up in a break down when you lose to gambling in that condition.
But still it's not an excuse, you know how risky gambling is, therefore you need to treat it seriously. There is no room for you to be successful if what you are doing is based on your emotion, you have to be responsible enough to win this battle, they have the advantage, so it is just right to be clever all the time.
6007  Economy / Services / Re: QTUM Signature and Avatar Campaign on: January 24, 2017, 03:09:24 AM
Spreadsheet for Payment is now updated. Spreadsheet information has been sent to SFR10.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BVr1ii6mEdtaXA-Ui6DJ0NI3YKV4JPuLYeUy5c3RTHA/edit#gid=1708952894

Regards

Thank you BlackMambaPH, you managed the campaign very well. Excited to have my 2nd payment.
6008  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: January 23, 2017, 03:26:24 AM
for now we can say that in the passed years bitcoin is much stronger now and the continuous adoption by many people can help the life of bitcoin much longer exist.
That should be what we are expecting, the price will rise overtime because the adoption rate is increasing. Bitoin is strong because we are making it strong, with our continues support and effort we could make this bigger and bigger as time passes. Of course, when this will be bigger, the price will follow and eventually we can make more profit.
6009  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: January 23, 2017, 03:18:20 AM
Others believe in Bitcoin, other are not believing. I do not believe in Bitcoin, but when I used and a lot of transactions made, I think bitcoin is true. In fact, I transact thru bitcoin sometimes, a lot of activities or transaction can be made.
Yeah , Same thing happened with me . At first when I comes to know about bitcoin then I didn't found bitcoin as a  secure way because I was in fear whether it is safe ? trusted? and where will I sell after earning ! , but when I started earning then I found nothing is in bitcoin to get fear in your mind . Because every steps in bitcoin for me gives me full of confidence and trust about bitcoin .
So here I will suggest if you are in fear for the believe in bitcoin than start with very small amount of investment , instead to go for big .
One day you will also get much trust about bitcoin , if you will do job in this .
Yes , I think a lot of users in bitcoin had fear on using it. Fear about their money, fear about the securities, and fear trusting on giving money. Others think a lot before using it. It is just like a virtual money, it is just like putting your money on digital devices. Furthermore, a lot of people who tried it, became successful of using it. From now on, a lot of people using it as virtual money.
They fear it because they literally do not understand how bitcoin works. Bitcoin is full of risk but if we know where this is heading, we will be convince to take that risk to invest and be hopeful for success in the future. Those who are still doubtful should not use bitcoin, it takes a little education to understand it and patience as well.
The thing is, people see bitcoin as investment instead of currency. It's an online currency that we can use for our regular transaction to take advantage on the cheap transaction fee. Maybe, if we will try to educate others, do not toss up with them the benefits of making an income, it's not the main reason why bitcoin has existed or invented.
6010  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: January 23, 2017, 03:07:21 AM
Hi,

I don't know what to do  Cry

How you think bitcoin will go up or down in near 2-3 weeks?

It is very important for me...

What you will do with your btc also?

Thanks.


Perhaps, you just became impatient in waiting. That's why you quoted the question above in this thread. We cannot predict when will  increase or decrease the value of Bitcoin or altcoins. Because if we just know when will increase, The world "WAIT" or "HOLD" will be unusefull in trading, which means the essense of it will turn into nothing.
Patience is the key here, thus, being inpatient is inexcusable. You have to put only what you can afford to lose so you would not worry much of that money. The price will rise at the right time, you just have to wait for it. What I see in the next 2-3 weeks is there's going to be a good price increase, we are probably gonna hit the $1,000 level again.
6011  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: January 23, 2017, 02:56:15 AM

There will be no meaning in trying with ineffective methods. Quitting gambling is not an easy task so we need extra care and dedicated ways of practising some new habits to get rid the gambling activities.

From my own experience, I was an intensive gambler some two years back after that I started to reduce my gambling hours and now I am finding some control in my gambling activities. So, it is possible, only if we we are dedicated to.



The best way to quit gambling to me, is just to find other creative avenues to make money or for those who claim they are into gambling for fun, they should look for more other productive ways to catch fun that will not involve losing money. And another thing is that, one cannot even stop at once anyone thinking that is possible, is probably joking as the best way is to take it gradually and in no distant time, one drops the attitude.
Seeking some other kind of activities that makes money I think trading. Because for me trading is better than gambling, as long as you know how to run it and you know how it works.

If you want to come out of gambling activities, then you should stop using the computer for a while because as long as you got access to the internet and online money then addicted gamblers mind can easily change and can start gambling again. So one should try to involve in outdoor activities and spend more time with friends and family members until they can control themselves.
You have to solve the problem itself, your computer is not the problem so why would one will sacrifice not using it just to prevent from gambling? Actually, if you still have that urge inside you, you will gamble anytime you feel even without the help of your computer to access online gambling.
6012  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: January 22, 2017, 01:34:47 PM
like gamble in sports betting is one of the bright idea because it is more easy to predict that the other gambling game..

There is no way that people could predict the outcome of the game even if you have follow the club for years or even do sportsbetting daily. The result will always be unexpected and you might lose more then most other casino games. It is definitely not a smart way to gamble given the house edge is considerable high

In sports betting, people can predict more accurate than any other casino games, but that doesn't mean that one can win the bet because still, they need the luck to win a bet. These days many games are fixed so end results we can't guess just based on their past performance but also need some luck to support our knowledge of the game and players.
Sports betting is one of the leading gambling type in the gambling industry in terms of profitability, that means more people or gamblers are into sports betting than any other type of gambling, it's the most popular therefore it would imply that people are seeing a great chance to win than other games.
6013  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: January 22, 2017, 12:48:58 PM
Investing is currently one of the best things you can do right now.
BTC keeps going up, and some sites only keep getting bigger.
Well, there are many aspects of investing, and Bitcoin investing is only a small part. As you can see, Bitcoin prices have just dropped to $900, and most of the people have lost their money because they did not sell Bitcoin at the right time. You need to be smart and you have to be patient while doing investing activities because it is the main key lead you to the success

Well yes it sropped but that doesn't mean peoplr already lost money there. The price of bitcoin right now is a fluctuating at a cinsistent rate and i think most experienced traders in bitcoin are not at all alarmed when it bit 900. It still is better though than throwing a conaiderable amount away in gambling. A lot of people who invested in btc roughly mid2016 already earned a decent amount even if they sell their btc's at 900

Correct who all invested their bitcoins in mid of 2016 they made a good profit till today. But those who invested in the right place they made profit other's it's loss only. But the present time is good for traders, and the bitcoin price is helping them to make a profit in trading. This is the right to sell your coins and make money. The investment will take the time to make a profit. If the price goes down then again it's a big loss.
You will not loss if you do it with timing, just simply sell your bitcoins once the price started to fall then but once it started to rise again. It's the timing that is required here and it's not easy to make money in trading as you need to focus in order to do the right timing. Monitoring is vital, we have to execute that very well.
6014  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: January 21, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
You will make more money with trading better do trading with your money, but you will make little profits with the money you have. But be careful while you are doing trading every time is not possible for you to make money, some time your money will stuck in trading so don't look for higher margins. Definitely it will give you good profits.
Being careful is already part of good method you will use, educating yourself is the basic things you have to do, you have to start with a little amount first then slowly you increase your amount once you feel you are doing a great job. There's success in trading if you are good in analyzing the price movement and if you allocate time to improve yourself.
6015  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: January 21, 2017, 12:21:03 PM
Should I believe in Bitcoin ?
I have 10k $ and maybe going to buy  , but I doubt the further development of Bitcoin and I'm afraid to lose money! Can you convince me or dissuaded from buying?

Even we gave a definite good advice still the decision is in your hands. But my suggestion that I could give is take away first your DOUBT and remove the feelings AFRAID/WORRIED so you can invest peacefully. And You can do business with a courageous heart. That's it!
The amount you invested should be the amount you can manage to lose, also, you have to trust the future of bitcoin and you can do that if educate yourself about all you need to know on bitcoin. The development will continue as what is happening now, the price is increasing despite of the hard fall. It's a strong asset, there's a bright future on it, never hesitate.
6016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, is it worth spending time collecting it? on: January 21, 2017, 12:02:39 PM
Actually, if you are really in that bad habit of collecting bitcoins from faucets then i would prefer to stop doing that and collect bitcoins from signature campaigns and other promos on this website

The fastest way to collect bitcoin is through conversion. Convert your US dollar to bitcoin that way you can have at least 1 bitcoin in your wallet. With the rapid and simultaneous increase of bitcoins price it is still expected to grow more over the years. This 2017 bitcoins price is seen to rise up to  2000$ by the end of December if not hampered by the release of fiat digital currency by the Republic of China on September.
There would certainly be no major effect for bitcoin, I'm sure about that because digital currency created by the government cannot beat the decentralized system of bitcoin. It's different and we are not govern by the rules of the government, and we are free to use our bitcoins anytime we want.
6017  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: January 21, 2017, 11:48:10 AM
I don't know why they are people who are preferring to choose gambling rather than investing and their reason are almost the same and they keeps on saying that it can give them fast money which is literally not a good way of earning. Unlike with investing, slowly but surely.

People dont want to wait and that is why people always choose gambling over investing. Some people's mistake are that they think of gambling of aj easy way to earn money that is why people always gamble to get more money. I do gamble for money however I dont think of it as a source of my main income
Indeed. Lack of patience makes them choose to gamble. Gambling does not bring any profit to us because of the house system. As you know, the house is created to take away gamblers money and it is very hard to beat it. Investing is different, you are a wise person, you can earn a big amount of money after one or two years. And of course, if you are not good enough, you have to face with the possibility to lose your money
Investing is for people who are not greedy while gambling is for greedy people if they seek for money. Greedy in the sense that they want to have it instant and easy, while in investing, you have to wait at the right timing to make a profit. For example, by investing in a gambling site, it will not give you good return in terms of percentage if you do not have a decent amount to put.
6018  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 21, 2017, 07:56:31 AM
THis is what i want to point to them not all people are looses when they playing or spend too much time on gambling some of them enjoying winning while others are loosing don't compare all people when they play gambling even a skilled people are loosing and newbie some are winning.
You are very right and most of it depends on luck. Some gamblers loses even in skill-based game maybe because they have missed something or did wrong so that's why sometimes they don't win. And newbies win because of pure luck.
I could not remember anymore when I won because of luck, I was 0-5 tonight with NBA games, so I guess luck does not work all the time. But as a gambler, I have to move on and accept my loses, everyday is a new day and new day means new chance to win. Grin
6019  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: January 21, 2017, 07:38:15 AM
Did you ever gamble with other's money to pay your own debts or otherwise to solve a certain problem through gambling?
Using others money is a sin if you don't own that money why you need to touch it and use it for your own risk? For me i don't considered this one if i own debts i will use it or my own way for good not for doing crap and alibi again if i lsoe it.
We have different definition of a sin because we have different religions and belief, using other's money is not a sin if there is a consent on doing it. It is just not advisable because the moment you lose it, you will have to pay for it regardless of your excuses why you lose it.
6020  Economy / Economics / Re: What percentage of people on Earth will own Bitcoin by 2020 on: January 21, 2017, 07:33:31 AM
I have voted 20-30% but it's just a wild guess . Don't have something to base on and most probably all answers are just a guess .
Even what will happen in the next month is hard to predict , What more if its 2020? And it will be harder if you got nothing decent to base on . The future is uncertain we don't know if something huge will happen that might boost bitcoins popularity, Well I hope it happens while I'm still alive .
Since no one can ever determine the total number of users then your guess could be right, however it's too big to achieve but there's no impossible with bitcoin and everything will just fall at the right place. In the near future there will be more success considering how people accepted bitcoin.
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