Peercover NXT deposits are lagging a lot right now. I have deposited two amounts, a large one, and a small one afterwards to see if that works better. Both not credited yet, although even the Block Explorer shows enough confirmations for them.
Hope it's only their NXT server/client that's lagging, and not their database not registering or just forgetting...
I ampretty surei it is lags due to recent block chain forking I have asked peercover to look into it |
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NEWS FLASH : EPIC THOMAS PAYS RESTITUTIONThis thread is insane, I am drowning trying to drink from this firehose... I have news to share and I also need to discuss / understand some of the comments about EpicThomas made since I posted my "interm report". I have skimmed (and not fully read / digested) these just now trying to catch up. Let me try to organize this chaotic situation by posting links to the background that I want to talk about: My first reply to Epic Thomas when he (not me) brought up the subject of restitution (pg 697): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4291567#msg4291567My "interim report" that summarizes the "four possible scenarios" that we are trying to choose among as being "the truth" (pg 728): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4321533#msg4321533Discussion of scenario 4 (Stolen NXT is in accounts that NOBODY has passcode for, put there by software bug / unintentional consequences of hacked code): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4328711#msg4328711https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329153#msg4329153https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329460#msg4329460https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4329542#msg4329542So... are we officially now saying Scenario 4 (darkNXT created accidentally during heist) is the lead theory at this point? THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT because there is a big difference between (1) a hacker that trashed 300K of NXT by accident but only actually accessed accounts of 1000K or less (as claimed by EpicThomas here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4271857#msg4271857 ) and (2) a hacker that has actually does have control of 300K NXT and is denying it while facing the threat of being turned over to the FBI. I still haven't had time to do a detailed timeline (soon, I promise) but there is still the Framewood loss that occurred before any of EpicThomas's links that comes from either (1) an attack we haven't either identified yet or (2) a darkNXT accident. EITHER ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS IS UNACCEPTABLY SCARY AND MUST NOT GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. Plus, EpicThomas now says he only posted poisoned links on Dec 31 and not in his earlier "Raspberry Pi" post on Dec 28. If true, this leaves the smaller 4 transfers to 16204974692852323982 also unexplained. I know this is all picky details, but THESE DETAILS MATTER. Not everything that is going on here is attributable to what EpicThomas did on Dec 31. Something SCARY is going on that we STILL do not understand. We must not lose sight of this fact. OK, changing gears here. My original "interim report" listed all correspondence that has been exchanged between EpicThomas and myself. Yesterday I got another personal message from him in response to the last message I had sent him. Here it is: *********** BEGIN MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ******************** Editing the client is no difficult thing. Everyone with some experience in java could do it, which I was trying to proof. The developers didn't even try to protect their code. The client was only posted here in the nxt topic on 31/12. I don't have a version of the posted client anymore. The code I changed is still available here on the forum if that is what you need. I have received the nxt from dgex and I have transferred it to the address you gave me a few days ago. I hope you will divide this in a fair way amongst the victims. At this point I am searching for different mirrors of nxt clients to find out who could have done it. Most mirrors do not exist anymore and the person who took your nxt has probably taken his links down if that is the way he did it. Still it is the only thing I can do. Because of the current exchange rate the total will be a bit more then 50k. I still haven't gotten all of my btc together. *********** END MESSAGE FROM EPIC THOMAS ******************** I can indeed verify (as can anyone using the block explorer at http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=34 ) that EpicThomas has sent 47,960 NXT to my account 16092180239932658439 as discussed in the very first link posted above. For the record, he transferred it out of account 10430154458458844041 which is now at zero. This apparently came from Dgex, so Graviton could start investigating his cash flow there starting with this account number. That might turn up something interesting, always follow the money..... Anyway, now I'm sitting on a bunch of NXT that ain't mine. Somebody send me a link to the right ratios that were applied to the charity split between the four remaining people who lost NXT (I think PaulyC is whole already, right) and as soon as I get account numbers for them I'll transfer this NXT from EpicThomas to them. This is a victory, folks. Celebrate! This is WAY more in the way of loss recovery than I thought we would ever get out of this situation. However, it is not enough to fully compensate those besides PaulyC who have suffered losses. So I am going to repeat what I said in my "interim report" : I am reading about unclaimed coins about to be distributed here by NXT leaders. I vote that plasticAiredale, Framewood, sparta_cuss, and newcn receive sufficient unclaimed coins on top of charity already received to bring their account balances back up to their original starting totals (PaulyC is already there) - particularly if there is a possibility of a bug sending NXT where it is not supposed to go . Which brings us to the final thing I want to discuss - what is the group feeling on what we should do about EpicThomas in light of the fact that the 300K NXT in the bandit accounts is increasingly looking like darkNXT that he never really had his hands on. EpicThomas commited a crime, period. Is paying almost 48K NXT in restitution enough to where we just pillory him verbally in the forum and send him on his way in shame? Or do you want to go for blood and have me file something officially with the FBI? It is quite possible that the thief(s) have the passwords to the darkNXT accts and are waiting for the heat (you) to cool down and then activate the accts with the keys they have used to generate the acct numbers. Until that happens, it is not possible to know whether it is truly darkNXT, so these are unconfirmed darkNXT. This is why I suggested to freeze these accts for a while until we get to the bottom of the true mystery. However, from what I have seen, there is reluctance to set a precedent of freezing an acct for whatever reasons, even this. James |
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do you have a link to the peercover orderbook?
I was a little wary of it since /simpleGateway reads "Connect your wallet to see balances and trade currencies." But even when you do that no orderbook updates... Unless it's dead. When james posted it saying there were 250k nxt on the books I didn't see a thing Yeah, on the left-hand side under Wallet is it asks for Ripple wallet address. Enter that. It just wants to see how many funds you have to trade, I think. It can't touch your funds -- no different than having your NXT address in your sig, for example. Underneath that, it asks for your Ripple secret key. My response was no fucking way. But it still works without the secret key. The secret key is if you don't want to use the ripple wallet's trade page and want to use peercovers trade mode. Totally optional. The key stays in the browser and is used to sign transactions locally. The market that has the NXT on ripple is NXT.peercover/XRP so make sure you set the issuer for NXT to peercover's ripple address: ra9eZxMbJrUcgV8ui7aPc161FgrqWScQxV Sometimes you have to refresh and relogin to the ripple wallet to see the order book. I think a lot of the NXT for sale has been sold, so only about 150,000 NXT left for sale on orderbook, at 2.9 XRP and higher, which is over .00008 James i try it ,but i didn't found the trade pair NXT/XPR or NXT/BTC. From the ripple wallet's trade page there is a drop down list. You need to type in "NXT/XRP" (without quotes uppercase), also make sure to use peercover's ripple address for issuer: ra9eZxMbJrUcgV8ui7aPc161FgrqWScQxV James |
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do you have a link to the peercover orderbook?
I was a little wary of it since /simpleGateway reads "Connect your wallet to see balances and trade currencies." But even when you do that no orderbook updates... Unless it's dead. When james posted it saying there were 250k nxt on the books I didn't see a thing Yeah, on the left-hand side under Wallet is it asks for Ripple wallet address. Enter that. It just wants to see how many funds you have to trade, I think. It can't touch your funds -- no different than having your NXT address in your sig, for example. Underneath that, it asks for your Ripple secret key. My response was no fucking way. But it still works without the secret key. I can only see XRP/NXT book. I don't want to touch XRP... my head is going to explode. NXT/XRP is a lot more stable than NXT/BTC. I offered to make market in NXT/BTC but nobody seemed to actually want it and a market in NXT/XRP formed. I could even make a market in NXT/USD, but no point if nobody is there. If we had enough buyers and sellers who all agreed to trade NXT/BTC, then an orderbook will form. Chicken and egg problem. Can't get traders without orderbook, can't get orderbook without traders. It would be a lot simpler if we traded NXT/BTC, then nobody has to ever touch XRP and you can still trade NXT. Just deposit BTC if you are buying and just deposit NXT if you are selling. No need to convert to XRP or convert from XRP. Converting from XRP to BTC is just a matter of sending it to a bitcoin address, it automatically converts it. Going from BTC to XRP is a bit trickier, especially if you don't have a bitstamp acct. The solution is for enough traders to agree to trade NXT/BTC and use peercover as the issuer for both. Then it is simple. Deposit BTC to buy, deposit NXT to sell. You can use ripple's wallet trade page if you are not comfortable putting in ripple secret into browser. A bit more work to setup the NXT/BTC pair with peercovers ripple address, but not that bad. I tried to get a trade page that simplified things, but as people have said ripple is a bit more complicated that normal. James |
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GCInc! We need confirmation from you! Please post here to confirm we should change our passwords!
Yes, we need GCInc here. Odd he didn't mention anything about this earlier. He did imply that he was hacked on the 2nd and that was the cause for most of the 800K loss of NXT. I don't think he wanted to admit it though as his website pitched how dgex was all ninja about security. I didn't see the msg about changing passwords, maybe that was the hack via phishing? Glad I got everything out yesterday, was worth paying 1.4% for peace of mind. I can't believe I just said that! James |
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do you have a link to the peercover orderbook?
I was a little wary of it since /simpleGateway reads "Connect your wallet to see balances and trade currencies." But even when you do that no orderbook updates... Unless it's dead. When james posted it saying there were 250k nxt on the books I didn't see a thing Yeah, on the left-hand side under Wallet is it asks for Ripple wallet address. Enter that. It just wants to see how many funds you have to trade, I think. It can't touch your funds -- no different than having your NXT address in your sig, for example. Underneath that, it asks for your Ripple secret key. My response was no fucking way. But it still works without the secret key. The secret key is if you don't want to use the ripple wallet's trade page and want to use peercovers trade mode. Totally optional. The key stays in the browser and is used to sign transactions locally. The market that has the NXT on ripple is NXT.peercover/XRP so make sure you set the issuer for NXT to peercover's ripple address: ra9eZxMbJrUcgV8ui7aPc161FgrqWScQxV Sometimes you have to refresh and relogin to the ripple wallet to see the order book. I think a lot of the NXT for sale has been sold, so only about 150,000 NXT left for sale on orderbook, at 2.9 XRP and higher, which is over .00008 James |
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Reporting another "issue" with DGEX: I have not received the nxt that, according to the History page, have been sent.
My dgex account number: 2818
Sent to account: 14748981975238803545
Time of request: 4 January 22:37:55
Amount: 59,160 nxt
Maybe I'm using an old block explorer? (Is that even possible?) Can someone verify that this transfer has or has not made it to the account above?
I see two transfers that add up to 69020 that happened today, but not 59160 you can use http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=100 put in your acct # in box |
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Will you commit to announcing ahead of time any fee INCREASES?
This fee increase was a mistake, yet seemed like the only option. I had to cover my ass in case the source release had exploded the price 3x...4x... god knows how much, every percent tightening the deficit rope around my neck more and more. It now seems the deficit is just not as great as initially thought, yet still considerable and needs to be recovered through the very moderate fees now applied. why the intentional outage to coincide with exact time of src release. You really shouldn't expect malevolent intent, nor such stupid behavior from your peers. We had a serious security breach the night before that had to be patched no matter what price. Things usually just coincide and they do escalate, giving a false impression. I appreciate the more constructive dialogue I'm perceiving. I am like a mirror. If I am getting good constructive dialog, that is what I do. I can understand how you didn't want to publicize a security breach. I assume that is what caused the bulk of the 800K loss and not any bugs in NXT, other than typo caused darkNXT. All NXT owners are in the same boat and we all want to help each other. Even yuriygeorge! Hey, any new pretty charts? James |
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Why not show off how smart you really are, just post some actual logic errors that lead to people losing money? My guess is that you tried to and couldn't find any, so you decided to make a copy of it and call it NGC.
That indeed is an interesting idea. So I wait till every gets fixed and mature. Then I reboot NXT. How do you like that plan? You already said you were going to copy NXT and call it NGC. That is the reason you are here, hoping to find some tidbits that will help your NXT clone. Not a copy, a better version. As it is NXT holders a losing money left and right. Wallets getting hacked, DGEX not returning coins, negative balances etc. OK, so you admit you are here just trying to figure out how to make a NXT copycat and have no intention of helping. Thanks for confirming my hunch. I am not sure what the right name for someone like you is. I won't miss anything valuable by ignoring you. You do know the next generation enterprise got totally destroyed. May the force be with you. James |
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Normal. You can replace an alias URI with a new URI, even if it is the same URI. I consider it a bug, but CfB says it is a feature
James
Maybe i can't understand you properly, but i talk about two same aliases. First is "lr127" (URI is "id:11017826896") and second is "lr127" (same URI "id:11017826896"). I wanted to buy one alias and spend 1 NXT, not 2. But when i query: http://node1.nxtbase.com:7874/nxt?requestType=listAccountAliases&account=11017826896I see only one alias "lr127". As expected. My guess is that you clicked the button twice and accidentally made a replace URI with the second one. The first one created the alias, the second one replaced destination. Since it was from the same info that created it moments before, it replaced your URI with the exact same URI. Two transactions, one alias, cost 2 NXT. James |
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Normal. You can replace an alias URI with a new URI, even if it is the same URI. I consider it a bug, but CfB says it is a feature
James
Why would you even consider that a bug? What con's do you have in mind? What value is there in changing an aliases URI to the exact same URI. Nothing changed, why should that get accepted? Why not get an error like "you must have submitted duplicate URI", especially if it happens very close in time. James |
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It seems dgex will NOT be giving us any grace period to withdraw NXT without a fee. The new fee appears to be 0.9%, for now,
Thanks for making the announcement for me. You are such a nice competitor it is an honour somebody like you plays us up in his every message!  What you say is true. We also hold no commitment to notify anyone about future price decreases or other bonuses that we are able to offer when the accounting clears up and network stability increases. I am not your competitor, nxtchg.com is your direct competitor. I work with peercover who has a ripple gateway for NXT, BTC, LTC and USD. Peercover also has a trade page, but all that is build on top of rippled distributed ledger. Will you commit to announcing ahead of time any fee INCREASES? That is what people here, not just me, are irked about. Also, why the intentional outage to coincide with exact time of src release. I am not smart enough to figure out how that was in interest of NXT James |
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Normal. You can replace an alias URI with a new URI, even if it is the same URI. I consider it a bug, but CfB says it is a feature
James
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Why not show off how smart you really are, just post some actual logic errors that lead to people losing money? My guess is that you tried to and couldn't find any, so you decided to make a copy of it and call it NGC.
That indeed is an interesting idea. So I wait till every gets fixed and mature. Then I reboot NXT. How do you like that plan? You already said you were going to copy NXT and call it NGC. That is the reason you are here, hoping to find some tidbits that will help your NXT clone. Good luck with rebooting NXT as when everything is fixed and mature it will have LTC marketcap, while your new coin will have you and your followers. If you are not going to contribute when you can, then lurk, steal and clone NXT. Whatever. I was hoping you had some pride in your skills. I guess if you don't have skills you can't have pride in them. Good luck with your plan, if you are going to post, please try to post an actual bug however trivial. Please show some respect to those of us who are trying to improve NXT. I somehow get the feeling that you are able to, but choose not to as you view NXT as competition to your own clone. Why not join the original instead of trying to clone? James |
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so crazy, over last week everyone calling their new coin second generation  Shouldn't we call Nxt a 3rd 4th 5th generation currency? Just for marketing purposes? CfB, you are one crazy guy How can there be great grand children with NXT as only descendant. Are you advocating crypto-incest? That is illegal in most civilized countries James |
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It seems dgex will NOT be giving us any grace period to withdraw NXT without a fee. The new fee appears to be 0.9%, for now, subject to increase at any moment. No commitment to notify anyone about future price increases.
I bit the bullet and withdrew my next yesterday even at the higher fee.
I also put a bit at 2.75 XRP per NXT, which at current prices is 0.000071243523316 BTC
I am in the market to purchase 10 BTC tomorrow when coinbase finally finishes transfer. PM me if you want to sell at around 0.00007
James
P.S. I have acquired all my NXT via purchases at 0.00005 and above
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For the people who don't code, this is essentially, "if you see some kind of error, just ignore it."
 Actually not. This is a paradigm heavily used in Erlang. If u tried to recover after an exception or even logged it, u would just consume resources without real profit. No, it's more like, if I see some kind of error, let me keep quiet about it!Can you explain how that would effect the actual functionality of the system. Isn't it the same as someone submitting improperly signed transactions so those should be ignored? You keep bringing up issues with the code but without actual explanations of how those issues are supposed to screw things up. It's in over 18 places in the code. Anyway, it is bad practice because if an unexpected error happens (which it always does), you do want to know that something happened. To assume that you can ignore this because you think you know what you are doing is just bad practice. Folks, I don't need to explain to you guys who to write code properly! Do you understand what beta release means? NXT just made first beta release with released source code. You are clearly the worlds best java programmer (no offense jean-luc) and due to your fluency in all things java you are able to see logic flaws much clearer than C programmers like me. Why not show off how smart you really are, just post some actual logic errors that lead to people losing money? My guess is that you tried to and couldn't find any, so you decided to make a copy of it and call it NGC. Prove me wrong. Prove that you are able to actually find flaws. That is what this thread is about. Notice how in spite of your almost total uselessness to this thread, you haven't been banned. Most people haven't even ignored you based on the hope that you will use your talents to help. If NXT is the sum of all people who contribute to NXT and you contribute too, how is that a ponzi scheme? Isn't a ponzi scheme something that has no intrinsic value. Are you saying that NXT has no intrinsic value? Are you saying that NXT doesn't work at all? Are you saying that a refactoring can't fix critical problems that you haven't even identified yet? What exactly are the flaws in NXT logic. Treat it as a whitepaper not a final release by perfect software engineering team staffed by clones of yourself. NXT is in BETA TEST. Not very smart to criticize things that are accepted during beta tests. I thought you were a smart guy, maybe that makes me stupid? James |
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Third in command right huh That statement was not included in the interview, it was my reply when the guy privately asked a week ago if I'm in charge of NXT. I said no, but I probably was the third most influential character in the NXT scene at that time so he'd get still get a nice scoop if BCNext and CfB are too far. Pickers want to pick ranks, fine it sure depends on who you ask and how. If NXT amount talks, I'm the first in command. Unity now seems far away from here grassroot perspective, but attainable. I have no problem to unite with you. Just provide 1 day time period for people to withdraw NXT without fees. Then I take back all the bad things I said about you James |
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Good job on nice PR! Seriously, it helps everybody when NXT gets good PR. So I am glad you were able to get this. I did find it a surprise that you are considered the third in command of NXT! Is that a totally tasteless thing to say? Still waiting on answers to my questions. James |
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